Super Bowl XXXII: The Revenge Tour | Full Documentary

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  • It’s been 25 years since the Denver Broncos earned their first world championship, but that season is still fresh in the minds of the men who earned it. “Super Bowl XXXII: The Revenge Tour” features interviews with the five Hall of Famers from that team, their head coach, Mike Shanahan, and some of the biggest stars from that 1997 team to detail their Super Bowl XXXII run and how the feeling of defeat in the divisional round the previous year fueled them throughout their 20-game championship season.
    00:00 - A Heartbreaking Loss
    8:03 - New Look, New Attitude
    16:54 - “The Revenge Tour” Begins
    24:35 - Earning Redemption
    32:13 - Super Bowl XXXII
    38:45 - This One’s For John
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  • @thebroncokidd7337
    @thebroncokidd7337 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    BIG MILE HIGH SALUTE TO EVERYONE WATCHING THIS ENJOY THE MEMORIES

  • @ricardobjj24
    @ricardobjj24 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Happy John Elway got to go out like a legend

  • @canadianrebel470
    @canadianrebel470 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was 10. I was just learning about who the Broncos were and what they meant to the city. That made me a Broncos fan for LIFE

  • @NovaKirsch
    @NovaKirsch ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Watching that 4th down play and seeing Mobley knock it down was the first time I cried for joy watching a game. I remember calling my mother and telling her 'We Did It!'...and both just started balling our eyes out. WHAT A MOMENT!

    • @losifer8829
      @losifer8829 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      my uncle watched them lose the big game all those years. when that play happened that is exactly what happened with me and him. we cried our eyes out! lol

    • @jazzchamp
      @jazzchamp ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@losifer8829 Relatable. I was like your uncle that day. It was so special after not just losing those 4 previous ones, but getting blown out in each. They were excruciating. However, it is all part of what made the elation of this day in 1998 so special.

    • @losifer8829
      @losifer8829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jazzchamp yupp. The reason why I feel the orange jersey is cursed! We wore the new ones and won back 2 back super bowls.

    • @goldeneve
      @goldeneve ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you still got the Rocky Mountain News or Denver post Super Bowl champs front page ?

    • @losifer8829
      @losifer8829 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goldeneve yes. Got the paper from the super bowl that year.

  • @ernestosolano8966
    @ernestosolano8966 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    😢 That was a great year. I love my Broncos “This one’s for John”.

  • @DanCron
    @DanCron ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Epic! Now do the 1998 team!

  • @joegriego3091
    @joegriego3091 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My brother and I, avid Broncos fans since 1976, watched the game at my house. Afterwards, we both had a shot of whiskey and saluted OUR World Champions! Man, it felt so good to FINALLY say those words of our team.

    • @niallfogarty8719
      @niallfogarty8719 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      totally feel that... I am massive fan from the UK and felt every snap of the Steeler game and the SB...

  • @hunglikeahorse---fly
    @hunglikeahorse---fly ปีที่แล้ว +33

    When Elway flew like superman for that first down..... I knew we were going to win that game!!!!
    Was awesome being part of the crowd downtown for the celebration!!!

  • @Solider4Christ144
    @Solider4Christ144 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you teared up on this you a real one!!
    Denver Colorado Greatest moment!!

  • @lesschoenberger3070
    @lesschoenberger3070 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I can't even describe the way I feel watching this great video, the memories just are overwhelming me like a Tsunami....

    • @franciscojoaquina877
      @franciscojoaquina877 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I told my young children at the time "I can now die with a smile on my face."

  • @kgeissler2
    @kgeissler2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Man I miss those days. This was an awesome video. Well done!

  • @enash19303
    @enash19303 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember going on East Colfax with my grandpa. After this, Superbowl win. My Grandpa was a HUGE Broncos fan. I'm glad he saw the Broncos win in Denver.

  • @jamesebey5432
    @jamesebey5432 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What an awesome trip down memory lane. I remember everyone in my neighborhood out in the street cheering

  • @BrianMarshak
    @BrianMarshak ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thanks for the memories. These are the Broncos I remember. The best and most real team for a lifetime. Dudes everywhere.
    Eddie Mac and that block. I still want to know what he said to Williams. To me that is the iconic play of that game. Mile High Salute 🫡

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He was such a quality player. The game needs more like him....substance first, and then the rest of it..

  • @jasononeal3099
    @jasononeal3099 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That Super Bowl 32 team experienced a renewed sense of vigor and that team was special. It still gives me goosebumps when I watch videos that describe the season and that SB Win. There were a few plays within that game that gave me great hope that The Broncos would be victorious.

  • @blakealanboyd
    @blakealanboyd ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Well done!!! I was lucky enough to go to the Super Bowl that year as a Bronco fan. Best sporting experience of my life. Go Broncos!!

    • @paulclark6988
      @paulclark6988 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much did it cost to go at the time?

  • @comfortablepod2638
    @comfortablepod2638 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was 3 months old. Legendary season and game I will never forget because of the films made on it.

  • @uss_cushing
    @uss_cushing ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The celebration in Colorado right after the game was something that I will never forget. To finally have a superbowl victory after so many losses was an unbelievable experience. It was a joyous relief to so many fans to no longer be a punchline for a Denver can’t win a superbowl joke.

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's amazing how many people got stuck with that label about not being able to win the big one....even numerous Hall of Famers, coaches like Shula and Landry, players like Steve Young, all of whom retired with rings...but it was never any more ridiculous than when applied to John Elway...Whether you're referring to tangibles or intangibles, he was the King...

    • @uss_cushing
      @uss_cushing 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tgriffin3059 That’s because when John had multiple shots and still lost. East and west coast bias is still an extremely powerful factor in Sports.

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@uss_cushing Shula and Landry both built that reputation after getting multiple shots...And Elway's multiple Super Bowl losses were more impressive achievements than any other man's WINS...No team who has been that heavily built around one player has EVER gone that far in the postseason...let alone do it 3 times in 4 years. I've heard it said that Elway's reputation almost suffered from the magnitude of his own greatness, and I'd have to agree. Even now, after winning rings, his reputation is hardly ever what it should be. I could see that coming, though....if you don't have a ring, but are still a big name-like Tarkenton or Marino-people look more closely at your actual game, to see what all the hype is about. But once you get a ring, you're just lumped in with whoever has the same number of rings as you do. So Elway winds up being mentioned with guys like Plunkett and Griese...

  • @IrvinVanderbilt
    @IrvinVanderbilt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    GO BRONCOS 🏈🐎

  • @brettd530
    @brettd530 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are so many elements involved in this one game that makes it one of, if not the best, Superbowl game ever.
    This video brings back some serious memories of my time living in Denver. Needless to say, January 1998, was a great time to be in Denver.

  • @yoszen2892
    @yoszen2892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are the greatest team in history 1997 Broncos, all the love from México 🇲🇽

  • @kev6141
    @kev6141 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    25 years later and still get chills and tears… there will never be another win like that 🥹🥹🥹

  • @schubert3315
    @schubert3315 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Greatest Super Bowl 32 documentary

  • @jfuentss
    @jfuentss ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is what separates good from champions, one mission, one goal, one commitment. Who really wants that trophy. Go out and show it.

  • @MontviewBlvdBabiez
    @MontviewBlvdBabiez ปีที่แล้ว +5

    GO BRONCOS!! 🍊💪🏽🏆🏆🏆🐎🏈

  • @thelatterrain_la
    @thelatterrain_la ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game was the first football match I had seen.
    Been a Broncos fan ever since.

    • @niallfogarty8719
      @niallfogarty8719 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      er...which game? there are a number here...

  • @jab1289
    @jab1289 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't know that one of the Packers went up to Alfred Williams and invited him to what was basically a Packer victory party after the game. That's how arrogant the Packers and the NFC as a whole were before that game. People sometimes forget that Denver's win wasn't just Elway's first, but it was an end to an odious streak of 13 in a row for the NFC. That's why they should have done a 30 for 30 on the 1996-98 Broncos. What if I told you....On September 1, 1996, the NFC's days were numbered?

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the signs were actually there. In the 80's, the NFC had stronger teams. But once the 90's rolled around, things changed. Buffalo was talented enough to win, but just kept self-destructing. Then New England under Parcells and Bledsoe played a great game against the Packers...if you'll recall, the MVP of that Super Bowl was a KICK RETURNER!!! You don't see that if one team is truly superior. So the signs were there....
      But as an AFC fan, and an Elway FANATIC...I still didn't believe it til I saw it!!!!!!

  • @lindseysummers5351
    @lindseysummers5351 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's a little bit of this team on the 49ers this afternoon. Kyle Shanahan as the head coach and Christian McCaffrey taking handoffs. Thst and Deebo Samuel went to my alma mater. I don't root for the 49ers often but I will be today.
    Green Bay should have been mentioned as part of the revenge tour because of the way the Packers beat the Broncos at the end of 1996. Truth be told, the Packers had a ton to play for in that game while the Broncos had already clinched home field the previous week. Pulling all their starters after the 1st Half was pretty stupid, because it gave the Packers confidence and a psychological edge. There's a fine line between tipping your hand against an opponent you might have to play in the Super Bowl vs. giving them the feeling that they can walk all over you. So, yes, it felt pretty good to watch them get revenge on Green Bay after laying that egg in 1996.

  • @kindwolf8572
    @kindwolf8572 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    next year is our revenge tour

  • @achydragon6204
    @achydragon6204 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best Broncos team ever. So glad I was able to experience that season. It'll never feel like that again, pure relief and elation all wrapped into one.

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2nd best. The 1998 Broncos were more dominant going 14-2 and destroyed the Falcons in SB 33.

  • @Cate5013
    @Cate5013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best season ever. I loved that team!! Superb video!

  • @lesschoenberger3070
    @lesschoenberger3070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To all who are reading this, were any of you fans during the 1977 "Miracle" season? I was a 17 year old Broncos fan in Allentown, PA., had started following them in 1973, and that season was incredible like this one but in different ways because it was the "first" of everything, the first playoff game, the first Super Bowl, they were beating Oakland and Pittsburgh and Baltimore and the rest. I know some will think I am crazy lol, but that season is my favorite, yes, even over them finally winning it all. I guess you just had to witness that '77 season to fully know what I am saying.
    But oh yes, this season here and the next rocked!!!!

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I fell in love with Denver that year because of that iconic uniform...and I've never gotten over them for making the change. I stuck with them til Elway retired, for those next two years, because he was my favorite player of all time...but after that, I turned my back on them, and will never return. It hurts me to this day...

  • @quintonwilson3127
    @quintonwilson3127 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Elway best ever

  • @kenkreta4414
    @kenkreta4414 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Remember that like it was yesterday, ya just knew we were gonna win that game

  • @flynbil
    @flynbil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To see them be good again is going to be a goo thing...

  • @niallfogarty8719
    @niallfogarty8719 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mike brought us a proper running game to complement the great John Elway... if only #7 had that from an earlier age....still 2 x SB wins in his last 2 x seasons.... wow

  • @nonyabiz2777
    @nonyabiz2777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    T.D still looks as good as he did back then. Amazing genetics for sure. What a great guy.

  • @coreybentsen7794
    @coreybentsen7794 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this team...

  • @CodyJMinor0620
    @CodyJMinor0620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can only imagine what the reaction of the fans of every AFC team, not just Denver, was when Mobley knocked down that ball on 4th and 6 to end that 13 year streak.

  • @scbroncosfan84
    @scbroncosfan84 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite Broncos team of all time. Yes the 98 team was dominant but that 97 team was so special because it was the first time. I play this team on Madden 08 to this day. Simply the greatest team ever

  • @patton303
    @patton303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually played at the reunion party with my band a few months ago on the club level of the stadium.
    I was sitting behind my drums watching legend after legend walk by.
    That was intense. Lol.

  • @TheCountofToulouse
    @TheCountofToulouse ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My two favorite RB's, Eric Dickerson and TD.

  • @phildralle4526
    @phildralle4526 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes yes love the broncos

  • @ddwalker3744
    @ddwalker3744 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best Superbowl ever

  • @paulguthrie4857
    @paulguthrie4857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was fantastic! Thank you!

  • @gotDIBS
    @gotDIBS ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yup that's the year I became a Broncos fan!

  • @nickemond8842
    @nickemond8842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's awesome to look back now and know that we had 5 Hall of Famers on that team. (should be 7, Tom Nalen and Rod Smith need to be considered in my opinion)

  • @brianhenson4128
    @brianhenson4128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best super bowl of all time!!! A dream come true finally!!!

  • @AnAIbinoRhino
    @AnAIbinoRhino ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how they release this little member-berry to distract us from impending doom

  • @adamdorgant9454
    @adamdorgant9454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!!

  • @aavila787ify
    @aavila787ify ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ma boi Mike Shannoheezy looking like he could be gorege bush cousin or brother lol. Love it.

  • @stephensalensky1248
    @stephensalensky1248 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those new 97 uniforms really did the broncos justice. I swear this is why I love the team so much, along with other things.

  • @reidman100
    @reidman100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I legit teared up at the end of this Superbowl.. I remember pulling my hat down over my eyes so nobody would notice… living thru the heartbreak losses of the 80’s, this one was special, and will most likely be the best SB I’ll ever watch as a Broncos fan.
    I just feel bad for Eugene Robinson who left the Packers for the Falcons the following year and got beat again by Elway and Co. 😂

  • @eddiedelgado60
    @eddiedelgado60 ปีที่แล้ว

    This one is for John, This one is for Pat, This one is for DT, and This one is for The Barell Man Tim. I was 6 years old when we won. I love the Broncos so much. The best team in the league; with the best fans and traditions. Mile High Salute.

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately, they had discarded their FINEST tradition...that iconic uniform. All these years later, and I've never forgiven whatever God damned fool made that decision...I'll take that decision to my grave...

  • @lakeetathomas3494
    @lakeetathomas3494 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Eugene Robinson lost back to back Super Bowls. 🤣

    • @MontviewBlvdBabiez
      @MontviewBlvdBabiez ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣 never noticed that... atleast he got the first one. Still funny he lost the next 2 with 2 different teams.

  • @NLewis-iz1jb
    @NLewis-iz1jb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Elway lookin older than Shanny. Last few years been stressing him out?

  • @BP.COOPER
    @BP.COOPER 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this whole season and SB was EPIC

  • @AidanHolland
    @AidanHolland 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not a Broncos fan but this was class.

    • @AidanHolland
      @AidanHolland 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Without the Broncos breaking through, I'm not sure the patriots would have won multiple SB's or the Steelers. Or the Ravens.

    • @packersauburneric3625
      @packersauburneric3625 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorta as Packers fan this nuts lol ​@@AidanHolland

  • @LOC2525_
    @LOC2525_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not crying you are

  • @julianzamudio4432
    @julianzamudio4432 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Elway getting old is like old captain America

  • @phildralle4526
    @phildralle4526 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love Shannon

  • @aupaub1168
    @aupaub1168 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The navy jerseys on white pants with orange stripes are my all time favorite broncos uniform it just hits for me. I hope the Broncos don’t change their uniforms, but if they do please bring keep the navy as alternate. I have a feeling the light blue will
    return, so I hope the navy stays as an alternate. Also can’t wait see see the 1998 Super Bowl documentary next year. Also sorry this is the era I became a Broncos fan so the nostalgia is hitting

    • @RetroreviewsPlus
      @RetroreviewsPlus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To each their own, the navy blue is 🤮 to me, I became a Broncos fan in 1990, to me those were the best uniforms so when they changed in 97 I was not liking it and still don't to this day

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RetroreviewsPlus HELL, yeah!!!!!!! I turned my back on them after that...I've never forgiven that move...To have one of the league's most distinctive looks...and then to trade it for BLUE??? If you count all the various shades, half the league is blue....They had something so special...and traded it for something so mundane...

    • @RetroreviewsPlus
      @RetroreviewsPlus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tgriffin3059 agreed 💯, we had the best uniforms ever, color scheme logo the whole works so iconic , especially on a sunny day those colors just popped then the navy blue thing happened it was like are you freaking kidding me these look like C R A P! People are like well but you won Super bowls in those navy blue I'm like I don't give a crap it's like yeah it's cool we won but we did it wearing those but ugly disgusting uniforms.I play a lot of Tecmo Super Bowl on NES a viewer of mine said I should do the updated versions where has updated rosters and uniforms I'm like no I like the Retro look better

  • @eric3298
    @eric3298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As Packers fan we should of had dynasty but we only had 4 defensive lineman the whole game and were gassed and played our worst game and still should of won I wish we played in 1996 the best Denver team imo of the 3 years

  • @jayoh2k
    @jayoh2k ปีที่แล้ว

    This was my era Broncos..

  • @goldeneve
    @goldeneve ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here’s a question to broncos fans did anybody kept the front page of both the Rocky Mountain News and Denver post Super Bowl Champs front page

  • @darrint9398
    @darrint9398 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    123 BRONCOS 🏈

  • @phildralle4526
    @phildralle4526 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Elway 7 yes

  • @MardizoneNuth
    @MardizoneNuth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💯💪💯

  • @joseramos4320
    @joseramos4320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bull jive penalty had that game 27. 23

  • @superhakker3198
    @superhakker3198 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the team that turned me into a Bronco fan when I was 6. The last couple of seasons have been rough for us but win or lose Denver Broncos for life.

  • @johnwace1261
    @johnwace1261 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another 25th coming up this year, oh yeah

  • @stephensalensky1248
    @stephensalensky1248 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with Terril Davis. The broncos needed that loss to JAX to propell them to the championship season in 97 and 98

  • @elway2k
    @elway2k ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Terrell Davis does not age

  • @robertemerson9970
    @robertemerson9970 ปีที่แล้ว

    #80 needs a gold jacket.....,period!!!!

  • @aavila787ify
    @aavila787ify ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jim a.k.a. "Bob Saccomano" Larry David

  • @DodgerFan1988
    @DodgerFan1988 ปีที่แล้ว

    5 Hall of Famers:
    John Elway
    Terrell Davis
    Shannon Sharpe
    Gary Zimmerman
    Steve Atwater

  • @andrewlane1237
    @andrewlane1237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next year will be revenge tour part 2

  • @donvanmoran1024
    @donvanmoran1024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why was a 12-4 team w TD and Elway 11 point underdogs?

    • @jonraybon8582
      @jonraybon8582 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      13 year NFC winning streak, plus as good as the Broncos were in 97, the Packers were absolutely loaded. It was basically like the Bills vs Cowboys in 92, except with the Bills winning; it was that shocking.

  • @carlosjimenez6738
    @carlosjimenez6738 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyone is getting old. I feel really old now.

  • @smartbomb7202
    @smartbomb7202 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    elway looks like he's 100 years old. he's maybe 64

  • @palm1986
    @palm1986 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Go 🟧🟦

  • @aavila787ify
    @aavila787ify ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No limit soiler uhhhhh

  • @thecherrysviewthecherrysvi3187
    @thecherrysviewthecherrysvi3187 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still say that first td by packers he only had 1 foot down

  • @aaronweaver1886
    @aaronweaver1886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2023 revenge

  • @coreybentsen7794
    @coreybentsen7794 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bobby F****** Brister

  • @chrisrenshaw6372
    @chrisrenshaw6372 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Broncos fans need to be real. The only reason you won Super Bowl 32 is because you didn’t have to face my Niners.

  • @BlorbusUnimax
    @BlorbusUnimax ปีที่แล้ว

    the old unis were so much better, that is the sad thing about it. i dont know a single denver fan who likes these ugly ass unis. That o line was absolute beasts

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said. The blazing orange jersey and blue helmet with the Bronco on the side were unforgettable...

  • @joseramos4320
    @joseramos4320 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mahomes little scamper and a penalty not even close to the helicopter

  • @darkdan3379
    @darkdan3379 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I suspect the Broncos won't get any better...1st...

  • @pauldittrich978
    @pauldittrich978 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Three best moments of Superbowl 32:
    1. Broncos winning
    2. The Helicopter
    3. Eugene Robinson on the sideline yelling “Bust ‘em in da mowf! Busy ‘em in da mowf!”.

  • @kennycartwright3217
    @kennycartwright3217 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elway was horrible in that game his usaul superbowl performance 107 yds 2int fumble what a putz.

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, he wasn't horrible...he directed the game plan...they ran the ball a lot that day...he mainly threw a few deep sideline passes to keep the defense honest, and picked up third down conversions. The next year he was MVP. And his first Super Bowl, against the Giants, his moved the ball well against that great defense. His stats in the first Super Bowl were almost identical to his last....
      Nobody ever questioned his arm talent. They questioned whether he could win a championship. He did...and that left certain people crying and looking for excuses...