Which of the found Loft Locomotives will run? Lawrie Goes a Little Model Episode 3.
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- Hello fine people of the internets,
Since the video came out revealing the locomotives that where found in my loft, there has been on question that we have been asked more than most - Do they work?
So grab a drink, sit back and relax, as Lawrie takes a closer look at the engines from the loft!
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I can smell the triang from here! I recommend giving the locos a service, cleaning up contacts and a dab of suitable oil will help them keep running for years to come
I was going to say the same. The Princess had quite a growl, so some hobby oil and grease would do nicely.
Possibly remagnetise the magnet as well? might help keep the milliamps down as well.
I'll be doing some servicing in a future video
@@lmm Nice one Lawrie, that will be very enjoyable to watch!
Ohey! Just what I needed on this grey and grim Sunday!
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you remove the dummy blank cast weight inside the Black 5, you can install an X04 motor and worm to covert it to teh originally intended loco drive. I did this to mine with an Airfix 5 pole motor back in the late 1970's.
As I'm getting on in years now I'm in my 70s, sometimes I cant remember what day it is! I've a large collection of locos and when I do any running or servicing I either write the date and details in a notebook or a little slip of paper in the box.
I'm fairly young I'd like to say and I'm thinking of getting into model railways and my great grandfather handed my mother down a BR black princess victoria, it hadn't been run since he died which was about 30 years ago so I set up some track, turned on the power, and it sprung straight into life! Truly great quality!
Brilliant video lawrie! It’s crazy what you can find when you look through old boxes.
Especially boxes you forgot about
Someone *cough* me *cough* would give a fourtune for that station!
Drop us an email if you're interested!
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels what is your least favourite loco out of all of them mine has to be the D tank because it’s to over used by hornby
@@Garbageguitarist Why did you reply to my comment?
@@wiltothecollector4420 probably just clicked in the wrong place - let us know though if you're interested
My wife bought Princess Elizabeth for me in middle 60s at a cost of £64.00 a lot of money in those days. It. Is still going strong.
That was a fair bit of money!
Those Bachmann Thomas recolors do make for excellent bash fodder. Never say never to it looking like a proper engine! ;)
Would need alot of work! That chassis may be of use though!
The Trian Princess was based on a set they made for Marks & Spencer. It was one of the most popular train sets ever as it was very affordable on pocket money. It had one loco and three very short BRMK1s but the plastic was prone to distorting and warping after very little time. The Triang version was more robust. The first generation Princess had no valve gear - the second one did likes yours here
Loving the content as always, also alternative title; Lawrie Goes A Little Loco: What’s Loco Broken Now.....
That could happen!
Love the shirt
@Oscar Vandenbogaert Looks like the green bitch to me :) I know shes not green anymore but she always will be to me. Nice to see some fellow Aussies in here.
I love looking through old boxes and finding treasure
It's great fun!
Great and interesting video Lawrie, I love the vintage model railroads collector of hornby dublo myself, but still like triang, cheers from new Zealand
Very nice video
Loving the model videos, yes not the same as the "normal" stuff but still far from a consolation prize! I have found my (dare say im far from alone) model collection growing rather rapidly myself during this time, i had only just gotten back into the hobby early this year, at least i picked a good time. Just wish we could buy blooming decoders here atm, i got a new loco the other week but no decoder and i don't even have a DC controller :( I only model local (Victorian , Australian) stuff but still love looking at English rolling stock.
A perfect way to start off a Sunday morning after a long nights work! As good as it operates I’d take the Thomas chassis and maybe run it without the current body but just the hookups, chassis and a small camera for some footage from the model’s point of view as it goes around. I hope you can setup a smaller diorama at your house for the next video with what you have on hand, would make a great video. Thanks for sharing this with us!
If everything in the shed ran as well as these straight off then you wouldn't have a channel 🤣
Well that's true - or at least we'd be doing different content
@@lmm Whatever the content I'd be watching 👍🏻
I only had a few bits as a child, and have just got back into model railways aged 38. Unfortunately the few things I had as a child are long gone. The one locomotive I remember is a Hornby 57xx GWR pannier tank circa 1976-ish that I think I got from my granddad that had a lot of sentimental value (my granddad is still alive: I just really liked the train). Just picked an identical one up on eBay. Turns out they made hundreds of thousands of them and they've all kept very well.
Oh yeah - it's a very popular model! I've got one somewhere in my collection
Ik have a Marklin HO class V-200 diesel from the German DB. It was build in 1966 which make him older then i am. Put him on analog track and there she go, a bit noisy but it ran and ran good. The loco was not used for 25 years.
I took the whole loco apart, cleaned him, cleaned the motor, give it a set of new carbon brushes and mid-rail pickup (still available from Marklin!), give it new oil and grease and ran it again. This time also perfectly slow speeds as far as this is possible with a 3 pole AC motor, and had a lot less noise.
So i took it apart again and digitalized it with a Simple Marklin first generation 6080 Delta decoder. Now it run as a '60's survivor with his 12 original all metal D-train coaches (24cm each) on the club lay out. And he pulls it with one hand in his pocket, and the other one giving a hi five.
But it must be said that back at the time, Marklin was a very expensive brand. But looking back, with a simple maintenance and decoder it can still run at modern day digital lay outs it was money well spend, however the previous owner sadly not lived to see his loco run again on modern tracks.
Oh that's awesome! - great when the old models can still be of use!
I personally think the "Billy" has a lot of charm! Sure it isn't prototypical, but it would be right at home on my fictional railway layout.
46205 Princess Victoria ,I had two of them, about 1974, I think. Great video Lawrie.
Yeah, I've got one somewhere too. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great fun, that's what it's all about, really enjoyed that 🙂👍
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
With a good service and some clean wheels that green Princess could be a fantastic runner.
The "I like trains kid" shirt is to die for... I about lost it completely.
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Lawrie your shirt is absolutely top notch
I'd love to see a video of you doing a service on the Triang Princess Elizabeth loco. I bet she'd run really nicely with a good cleaning and oiling. It's a beautiful old loco.
I'll add it to the video list
Surprised that most of that works which is good. Hopefully we well get to see some of your stored stuff over time
Those platforms remind me of the platforms of Leicester central station. Great video showing some old locos.
Oh yeah, thank you, glad you enjoyed the video
@@lmm no problem
About the Hornby LMS pug I think there a two similar locos preserved on static dislpay on the Bo'ness & Kinneil Railway.
The hornby Pug is a Ex Cally pug & the Dapol (now made by hornby) is a Ex L&Y pug both made it in to LMS & then BR
That's correct
36:30 The Lima and old Hornby stock have bogies that clip into a bogie-sized hole in the underframe to accommodate the motor. Unfortunately, over time this becomes stiff and hence derails at 36:30. Newer models have the bogies hung from a pin in the chassis rather than clipped in. A dab of oil or vaseline can do the trick
The Hornby D Tank loco is based on the Dowlais Tank locomotive, which were used in South Wales. At first I thought it was a fictional class for kids, but after extensive research, I discovered its original basis.
Yeah, you can see the prototype in the model, but they're very different things.
R.50 Princes Elizabeth, in BR black, was Rovex's first locomotive in 1950. I own 3 of them. It featured plastic wheels, plunger pick ups, Mk.I non--reversible coupling and a Zenith motor that later became known as the X01. The trainset it came in featured brass railed non-reversible track (Series 0) and two R.20 carriages plus a battery controller that used a pair of 6 volt lantern batteries (which are still available today).
The 1950 R.50 runs fine without issues on modern Peco Streamline track as the plastic wheels don't have the later coarse scale deep flanges. The only track it won't run on is the original fishplateless Series 0 brass railed and Series 1 steel railed track, which modern Hornby 0-4-0 & 0-6-0 locos will happily run on.
In 1951 Triang was invited to take over Rovex and the brand was known as Triang Railways, The brand name was changed to Triang Hornby in 1965, then Hornby Railways in 1973 and finally Hornby in the 1990's.However the company is still the original Rovex underneath.
The green Princess is R.53.
About three months ago I received two boxes one full of rolling stick the other with a couple locomotives and I found the older coaches where hard to move by my newer locos
Usually a bit of oil on the axles might aid running of older triang coaches. I have trialled it on a slightly damaged triang suburban coach and it seems to run smoother.
With a little lubrication and some love I think they all will be nice runners!
It'll happen in a future video!
Loving that station Lawrie, much prefer the old stuff as better built. Most of my engines are over 30 years old and still run great
If you were to use these, please do oil the motor and the wheels/bearings. It will improve the motors strength and expand their life while doing so.
There will be a video covering servicing in the future
Love train sets . They all need a bit of clean up , those wheels must be filthy , being away for so long .A bit of servicing in all of them . Loved the video , Stay safe .
Brilliant little video! On the bachmann not thomas, i do believe Sparkshot Custom Creations is making a custom body kit for the loco chassis which actually does look like a real loco, even if fictional.
Hey about the chimney for the Maroon pug you have that hall class that doesn't work so.....cut off the chimney, shove the hall in a siding, and pretend the pug pulled a Peter Sam and got a new funnel. (also I'm just curious whats your opinion on the LMS Crab )
Ah but it works!
I'll fix it up at some point.
Love the crab. Super thing to see running
Bit late here but my initial thoughts on the misbehaving Bachman are to carefully check the linkage for any bent parts. I've had locomotives where a slightly bent bit of linkage caused a seemingly unjust amount of trouble. Also, can't recommend enough that you give everything a good service- my experience with model trains is that old grease tends to gum up mechanisms, making the motor work harder and overheat. This can lead to a burnt out motor, which is never fun. The other thing of course, is dirty wheels and contacts. I have a friend who bought a really nice quality model of an EMD F3 A/B, but it wouldn't run, and he never took it to get fixed. I had a look at it for him, and after a thorough cleaning of all the contacts, wheels, and fresh lube, it was able to show its true colors again.. very well built loco, runs smooth and near silent! It's shocking how much difference a good service can do. Loving the "little loco" series Lawrie!!!
Thanks for your thoughts, and glad to hear you're enjoying the series so far - I've not really had a look at it yet to work out even what generation model it is - sure once I do we'll make some improvements!
A video or two on servicing things is in the works!
Another cracking video from LMM. Now time to go through the American stuff
very interesting, although I wasn't too surprised that the Triang Princess Elizabeth worked as well as it did. could be because a few years ago I got a diesel shunter out of a box after years of not using it. I expected it to before even putting it on the track. I also had a Triang Flying Scotsman running after it spent 15+ years on a shelf collecting dust as it suffered some heavy damage (not by me) mostly to the tender, which i got a replacement shell from Ebay. I also have a Tender drive Flying Scotsman which was the replacement for the Triang one. although these I did give a very basic clean before running. This was when I got the Tornado set three years ago in the Christmas sales.
I got a new 00 gauge loco today, it was an LMS rebuilt royal scot in BR lined green.
Oh very nice - one of Bachmanns?
@@lmm no, it's made by Mainline
I have about 2-3 of the classic pug. One I named "bill" and now it has gone the equivalent distance of Plymouth to neaby in scotland (probably) and I just petend the motor clips are part of an experimantal bake system
I wonder the mileage that they'd do before they stopped
@@lmm bill still hasnt stopped
And flew off the table 5000000000000 times
If Lawire purchased some Hornby tracks, he will make this...
Billy & Friends sponsored by Lawire Goes A Little Loco
Nice video pal, shame about the bachmann with the limp, looks a lovely little loco.
Viscount of Ridley sounds familiar for some reason. Keep it up
Glad you enjoyed it - sure the Bachmann can be fixed!
I have noticed that the Bacmann B1 with the split chassis does not like running backwards, also a strip-down of the chassis might reveal why it is running badly although be warned as you may need some superglue it the wheels are loose. The wheel centers (spokes) are a plastic inlay on the wheels and the can swell over time and this can cause poor running as well, but one you have sorted the problems you will end up with a nice loco
awsome i also picked up a old lima train set and got it running :)
Lima stuff always goes!
I know "Billy" is absolutely hideous but it's the kind of ugly I love. Can't find those anywhere in the states and I'd love to have one
James May would be proud
I really love your channel
that B1 Looks Marvelous! Try Lubing/Oiling it, that might work!
Yeah, I'll strip it down and have a look in a future video.
Excellent video mate
I have my first D tank loco from when I was little. It's about 20 years old now and still runs.
If you need layout tips join the chat with a contestant of the great model railway challenge, Jenny Kirk on monday afternoon on her TH-cam channel. She has a large loft layout and usually runs a lot of British rail blue and some BR green.
@30:19 Yay!
most locos can be fixed with some patience, im in the process of rebuilding a small one myself, Im pretty sure the set I have is from the 1970s, its a small 0-4-0 with tender number 96 since your from the UK you need a class 08 shunter in your collection its like a staple of the british rail imo, that whirl on that leemer (however its spelt) reminds me of a dash 9 reving up
Like your Lima works.
Everything can be fixed with enough time effort and money!
I've got an 08 somewhere in storage!
Maybe you should check the box and take a closer look to see if the brushes have fallen inside the box and maybe put it on the great western 4-6-0 or maybe look in the attic
Lawie I have a small layout and are wondering what is a good controller because I only have the Hornby starter controller and I am wondering what is better
I quite like the Bachmann one, but the guage master controllers are the industry standard. They're very good
I'd recommend an H&M Clipper or Duette (twin track version). They work very well with everything made over the last 70 years or so and the later ones have high/low resistance control and half wave settings which means you can get good low speed control. They are built like tanks, my Duette is still going since it came with my first train set in about 1970! When my more recent Gaugemaster gave up on me after about 10 yes I replaced it with another Duette. I think it only cost me about £15 on Ebay (though it was maybe 6 or 7 years ago) and even came in its original box. They are still quite easy to find on ebay and generally not very expensive. Avoid the HM2000 which looks like a more modern version of the Duette. I bought one expecting the same thing but was very disappointed with it. Hornby bought out H&M to get the brand so the HM2000 isn't actually an H&M controller at all.
Hey Lawrie, can you share some of your current layout and rolling stock(when you have access to it again obviously).
Will do in the future!
I allways thought, old Märklin-locos looked bad, but those couplers on 00 take the crown... I am very thankfull for the NEM couplingboxes... Great nostalgio, but I think I´ll stick to my H0 trains from modern Piko, Märklin, Roco, ... A carriage might cost you 80+€, but they look far better. Still a great Video!
Oh it's amazing how much improvement there had been on mostly railways over the last 50 years - most of these models are basically vintage vehicles by now!
The bachmann tender engine is a Mainline one. All mainline models have that limp, plastic axles and are split chassis. I know because I have a BR 5MT by them.
Ah but it's got the Bachmann baseplate. I'll take it apart and have a look
@@lmm Bachmann bought Mainline in the 90s so its from after then as bachmann kept making them
@26:35 *gets excited for the LMS Black 5*
Let's try to let Lawrie buy a Hornby ruston!
I want them to make mine!
Wish I had the confidence to talk in videos but I absolutely hate my voice and even talking on the phone to my own family 😩😩 great video as always
I didn't like mine, but it's part of territory of doing this kinds thing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice
Hi Lawrie I'm getting a Austerity 0-6-0 in CADLEY HILL colliery and it's called Cadley Hill Number 1 and it should have arrived on the 21st of December but it still hasn't arrived yet probably because The Royal mail Are Caught up delivering Letters and Parcels
Made me remember beloved SJ Lima rc3
Glad to bring back happy memories!
Wow, I had that station in a box of stuff I inherited from my older cousin when I was a kid. Wasn’t in such good condition though…..
It's a great excitement to receive isn't it
@@lmm absolutely! Sadly, it’s long gone now. These days space is a premium, so I get my train fix with n gauge. Enjoying your channel!
@@StokesTrains shame its gone, but glad you're enjoying the content!
Normally, I wouldn't comment, but I thought this was appropriate.
Hello, Mr. Lawrie sir! As a American modeling British locomotives, and you now owning a British diesel, I admire you for your hard work and immensely dedicated lifestyle.
However, admiration is not reason I am commenting.
It is about your little model based on Thomas.
Now, I am a IMMENSE fan of the Railway Series and Thomas himself. With your intrest in the the shunter, I thought I would point in the direction of an individual called Sparkshot, or @KnucklesSCC on Twitter. He has for years been building beautiful 3D printed shells, not just for models based on the Reverands illustrations, but real locomotive's as well. His current project is a model designed for the chassis of the shunter. I will put a link to the project down below.
Cheers, and have a nice day.
Alex.
twitter.com/KnucklesSCC/status/1265038768186298379?s=19
Thanks for the link, I've had a look, he's done some good work
The gears in the bachmann are likely cracked and putting Resistance on the wheels, it's a very common problem
I have a tender driven Lima King class but the engine dosen't roll, it's a bit stiff.
Yeah that's a common issue.
First, have you clean the track properly. ?
Number two you’re going to have to make lunch oil and possibly replace The brushes !
Once you get everything cleaned up Bloomberg paid properly and electrically running correctly you got yourself something to start layout with ! But take it one day at a time and try to absorb it, One day at a time ! 🌊🐺
We'll be doing a video in the future covering servicing
The green e2 looks like a repaint of the Bachmann Thomas
It is - doesn't really look like an e2!
Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels oh ok
Super Four Track Railway Station
I really like it
With these old triang models, they normally can go from poor to good running condition after 15-30 minutes of constant running. My churhcill was abandoned in the attic for 40+ years, but runs like new after no repair work.
That's interesting. I'm certainly going to give this a service and see what difference that makes.
Lima Locos have to be run regularly, Before I changed my Entire Loco fleet to Bachmann/Helijan. I had a Lima Class 20 that was Ok and could Run very Well. Lima Class 27 my Faveroute type of Diesel Loco and it wasn't that great needed Running. Lima Class 47 that was ok but needed Running Regularly. And My Rare Bodied Hornby Class 29, Ok moving on.
Oh really? That 47 seemed OK having not been run for a while!
6mm MDF board brings Hornby platform to the right height
Oh really
nice
Thank you
The reason the little Thomas sorta train was slipping was because they have plastic wheels and it has a lot of drag and plus it's probably light
It's super light. That's the issue
Will you be buy Hornbys new Ruston 48? Would be nice to have a miniature version of your own loco
I want them to make mine a version of my one!
I'm a little jealous that most of yours still work
I was impressed by this little fleet!
Lima Class 47s never had lights fitted. With regard to your comments about the Lima Class 47 showing no real advance over the 1960s Triang Class 37, it was an improvement over the Hornby Class 47 released in the 1970s...
Lima made tanks. They ran and pulled well.
There just wasn't the leap in detail like there has been recently.
I’ve my childhood train in a box. Time to get it out for the grandson.
Excellent thing to do!
So, are you getting the old Plasticard out and making a Ruston? :-)
I want Hornby to make mine, then I'll get one like that!
what locomotive is the Hornby D modeled after? I keep seeing people say that it is completely fictitious. But now I hear Lawrie (a professional historian) say otherwise. Could anyone please confirm for me?
Heya,
Here's the link, if you scroll down the Loco is called King George.
You'll see the similarities, but also how different it is.
www.alangeorge.co.uk/Dowlais_Works_locomotives.htm
I would like that 47
Never heard of a tender drive loco, im guessing its a result of "well, even with the slightly out of scale stuff we did to get OO from HO to make models of those tiny firebox locos we still dont have space fer a motor" then.
Or I might just have never ran across any here on the 'murican side of the pond
They're rare, and they often perform very poorly in part because the tender just isn't heavy enough to give decent traction.
Very common over here. There was a period 90's - early 2000's hornby tender locos were all tender driver.
It was for the ring field motor, and though weighted, wasn't good, and with nothing driving the wheels of the Loco they could slip and slow down.
the bachmann loco most likely has a split muff on one of its axle if so if duff as bachmann no longer make this type of chassis
Yeah that's my suspicion
Meanwhile...
Lawire runs his model trains.
Did he got some inspirations with Sam’sTrains?
Lots of you guys asked for model content - besides I can't go out visiting actual railways now!
Is it me or are we supposed to believe that set has never seen the light of day before. !!!!!
I never said that - I'd not opened it before, and it's all been in the loft for something like 5 years.
You should also take the motor out of the billy and puit it in the first loco
I could fix the motor in the first, the Billy chassis is crying out for a kit body
I didn’t think the Hornby D tank is based on a real engine! What was it based on?
It's based on this one! images.app.goo.gl/aUdi98dog1anoRrH7
Hey it does seem like the track isn’t thoroughly cleaned due to the fact that the locos get slower on some parts of the tracks rather than others
It's just poor connectivity where it lives from an unlevel board
Didn't you say that little loco is next week, what chanst?
So many of you guys wanted it, we thought we'd release it early
Thanks!
Do you know what's locomotive is my favorite the one that looks like Thomas Billy
It's a great runner
Lawrie dunno if you know or not but Hornby do a model of your Ruston.
If you want to get that white dust off, i suggest using a toothbrush gently on the models.
orignal made for marks and spencer as Rovex? then taken over by Lines, Tri-ang.
I believe you're right
And loved the live stream yestarday
Oh super! Glad to hear it!