oo and another helpful way that works post flop is the 2 and 4 rule its not exact. To work out the chances of hitting ur outs for the turn and river times by 4 and for just the river times the number of outs by 2 (of course these are what u consider to be winning outs)
"If he's drawing to the clubs, Im gonna be so PISSED" "Oh empire, you will screw yourself up if you get in here" AHAHAAH btw, for the one saying empire is a fish who cant fold a flush draw, I think he was favorite with the flush draw and 2 overs !!
that set iver set is so godamn brutal... first time i actually sympathize with the guy...turn the second nuts no good with no flushes or straights on an unpaired bored.. sickening
theres nothing wrong with pushing there with the jack queen of clubs... he probably put him on a 10... its a nice aggresive bet to get a fold with a decent shot at winning the pot... it was a good call by fish... sometimes it seems like hes awful and sometimes he plays decent... i cant really place him
Agreed. The first raise is good (flush draw&two overs in position). The push is bad stuff. After Fish 3-bets he should normally have better than top pair. Two pair or JJ are possible hands, and what if the Fish turned over AcKc? or A/Kc with Tc? Empire is pretty lucky that fish overplayed the hand himself, normally he's not gonna be in that good shape here. Besides, Fish is never folding to an allin after 3-betting. Its an ok spot for a gamble, but thats what it is - gambling.
26 outs out of 48 is nearly 55%. Just divide 48 by 26 and you ll get 0.55 ish.. Or you could also do it like this , 48/26 = 1.9 ish..that means your odds are 1 to 1.9 , meaning you will win the hand 1 time out of 1.9 times so those are great odds.
I said that s the easy way to calculate it.. You need to take in consideration what the opponent might have. Google Pot odds.. You will have a lot of helpful links.
who?? tuff fish??? if he knew there was a flush draw, the guy had about a 50% chance of hitting a club. and there was also the possibility that he had a better pair, or 3 of a kind. that's a helluva good reason to fold, especially considering how much empire bet.
this guy is funny but in this video he playing finally not bad. first hand was 60-40 in his favor, and in his second what's the probability at turn the guy got qq, 0.1%,0.0000001%??
60-40 in his favor? plz get your odds str8, the guy had backdoor str8 draws, two over cards and a flushdraw that fish couldn't draw back on (no Kc)... he is at least 52% if not more... :p
EmpireMaker totally overplayed his hand with the QJ of clubs. So did Tuff fish though with the k10. It amost a dead even heat on the flop. Might as well push your entire bankroll on a coin flip hope for the best go play the lotto maybe get it back or put your house up. Right?
what proof u talkin about? why wud any site as popular as party risk every single one of there customers leaving them by rigging the cards? they make enough money as it is
"If he's drawing I don't want him to draw" LMFAO...the guy raised pre flop under the gun, then got reraised and called, and the flop was Q24, turn a 9. So, what the fuck could the guy raise pre flop and call a re raise with pre flop then pick up a draw on the turn? J-10? HAHAHAHA...Please come to my cash game.
You're making a moot point because the guy didn't know tuff fish only had 10s K kicker, if he had a set he would have been a huge dog with his draw. fish could have had a pair and Ahigh flush draw.A player better than tuff fish would have at least a set or over pair in that situation.
its not 35% it's about 50%, its a fair enough play, he has a flush draw and over cards, + he already has money in the pot. Tuff fish is way too lose. Still nice to able to laugh when you have just lost a months wages.
"I got a pair, and he doesn't have odds to call, unless he's got a better pair" :)
I can listen to "Ow, for christ sake!" a hundred times hahaha..
"he should push all the way, meh thats good, o gaddamn dont you dare have a damn.....AWW FOR CHRIST SAKE!"
2021 anyone?
Have you tried 2022?
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"Yep thats goood, ahhr god damm don't u dare have a damn *pauuuuuuuuuse* Oh for christ sake!!!"
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oo and another helpful way that works post flop is the 2 and 4 rule its not exact. To work out the chances of hitting ur outs for the turn and river times by 4 and for just the river times the number of outs by 2 (of course these are what u consider to be winning outs)
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uh oh, it's that time of the month
"If he's drawing to the clubs, Im gonna be so PISSED"
"Oh empire, you will screw yourself up if you get in here"
AHAHAAH
btw, for the one saying empire is a fish who cant fold a flush draw, I think he was favorite with the flush draw and 2 overs !!
haha tuff_fish, a real legend
that set iver set is so godamn brutal... first time i actually sympathize with the guy...turn the second nuts no good with no flushes or straights on an unpaired bored.. sickening
That's painful. Tuff_fish takes it even quite well.
wow that qqq vs 999 hand was brutal. mega ouch.
Empire had a nice slow play on those queens. Real sneaky
The trick i said before is for beginners.. It works sometimes...It s not the real exact answer but it s the fast calculation.
theres nothing wrong with pushing there with the jack queen of clubs... he probably put him on a 10... its a nice aggresive bet to get a fold with a decent shot at winning the pot... it was a good call by fish... sometimes it seems like hes awful and sometimes he plays decent... i cant really place him
Agreed. The first raise is good (flush draw&two overs in position). The push is bad stuff. After Fish 3-bets he should normally have better than top pair. Two pair or JJ are possible hands, and what if the Fish turned over AcKc? or A/Kc with Tc?
Empire is pretty lucky that fish overplayed the hand himself, normally he's not gonna be in that good shape here. Besides, Fish is never folding to an allin after 3-betting. Its an ok spot for a gamble, but thats what it is - gambling.
dude, if you could see the flush draw from a mile away then he made the right play.
26 outs out of 48 is nearly 55%.
Just divide 48 by 26 and you ll get 0.55 ish.. Or you could also do it like this , 48/26 = 1.9 ish..that means your odds are 1 to 1.9 , meaning you will win the hand 1 time out of 1.9 times so those are great odds.
Classic
I get my ass kicked by these guys willing to push with the flush draw on the turn. Fuck it drives me nuts too.
@Teabagonyou
That is not PS.
that's true.
but you can never have that many, not even in PLO on the flop
In terms of odds, Empire isn't wrong pushing his JQ suits, it's a coinflip more or less..
@coolbluezzzz That's why you're playing Play Money for a living.
I said that s the easy way to calculate it..
You need to take in consideration what the opponent might have.
Google Pot odds.. You will have a lot of helpful links.
Sorry i mean divide 26 by 48 and get 0.55 ish.. It was 3 am sorry lol.
why raise with 99 a call is the right play
ha! wish i did, I could use the money
its real money. empiremaker2 is a well known online player
who?? tuff fish??? if he knew there was a flush draw, the guy had about a 50% chance of hitting a club. and there was also the possibility that he had a better pair, or 3 of a kind. that's a helluva good reason to fold, especially considering how much empire bet.
no, thats wrong! the guy with QJ of clubs had actually 55% chans at winning the pot.
exactly, empire got lucky on a DONK play. Thats poker.
so if i have 26 outs, i have 104% chance of winning by your maths. How does that work?
obviously it works out very well^^
this guy is funny but in this video he playing finally not bad. first hand was 60-40 in his favor, and in his second what's the probability at turn the guy got qq, 0.1%,0.0000001%??
60-40 in his favor? plz get your odds str8, the guy had backdoor str8 draws, two over cards and a flushdraw that fish couldn't draw back on (no Kc)... he is at least 52% if not more... :p
lol does this guy ever win? how much is he up or down?
you must be VERY rich
instant ALL IN every time i get 99
The the fuck did Tuff_Fish get his roll? Seriously............
haha haha haha this guy is great. you should be named coolerfish
EmpireMaker totally overplayed his hand with the QJ of clubs. So did Tuff fish though with the k10. It amost a dead even heat on the flop. Might as well push your entire bankroll on a coin flip hope for the best go play the lotto maybe get it back or put your house up. Right?
what proof u talkin about? why wud any site as popular as party risk every single one of there customers leaving them by rigging the cards? they make enough money as it is
sure does get christ and god involved a lot in poker haha.
"If he's drawing I don't want him to draw" LMFAO...the guy raised pre flop under the gun, then got reraised and called, and the flop was Q24, turn a 9. So, what the fuck could the guy raise pre flop and call a re raise with pre flop then pick up a draw on the turn? J-10? HAHAHAHA...Please come to my cash game.
hahaha wtf very sick
you do not have to run a poker calculator for that, it was obvious that he was ahead^^
(obv brag post by me)
empiremaker=typical luckbox fish who cant fold a flushdraw
maybe he started at 5/10?
LOL you left out the chat :( 5/5
2 cards to come, 1 of 4 possible suits. 2*(1/4)= .5 or 50%. simple math buddy.
*signed
You're making a moot point because the guy didn't know tuff fish only had 10s K kicker, if he had a set he would have been a huge dog with his draw. fish could have had a pair and Ahigh flush draw.A player better than tuff fish would have at least a set or over pair in that situation.
Pokerstars is the worst site for bad beats.
were you playing for real money?
ROFL
All in with a flush draw (not even nut)? risk your stack on a 35% chance of winning? Poker world is full of donks now.. ITS GREAT :)
he had two overs as well so he was ahead… you’re the donk
its not 35% it's about 50%, its a fair enough play, he has a flush draw and over cards, + he already has money in the pot.
Tuff fish is way too lose.
Still nice to able to laugh when you have just lost a months wages.
lol.......Poker not your game.
you could see flush draw from a mile away-this guy has way too much money for being this bad at poker.
never play poker online its always rigged towards whos spent more