Software support is essential in my opinion. I just had occasion to evaluate a particular sensor. It did not get 5 stars. One of the big reasons is that there was NO LIBRARY available to interface to it. There was sample code for the Arduino and Pi for reading the sensor in its default configuration. There was no sample code of library for modifying that configuration via its serial interface connection.
Thank you for this video! I bought Grove Base Kit for Raspberry Pi on August to learn how IoT works and then for using sensors and LCD in future Aquaponics project.. but nothings works.. all documentations, instructions and examples are out of date and I cannot figure how to get it work.. I am pretty disapointed. any sugestions? e.g. How did you get LCD runing?
My experience with the Grove system is very much the same. To be honest, as of late the code examples don’t seem to work. Beaglebone examples were even worse off; could not even get a button working.
Yeah, it is a shame. Their hardware is really good and I like many of their product ideas. But I always struggle with the software/firmware side of stuff from them.
Sounds like... Not going to waste my money. Seems a pretty common thread that a Chinese company puts out some capable hardware but almost completely neglects documentation. Who wants a product where you have to spend time figuring out if it is even functional.
Thanks for this. What depresses me is the RPiFoundation's (per Eben Upton's interviews) abandonment of the RPi community in favor of OEMs and manufacturer users of the Pi boards. They were originally an Education/teaching foundation oriented to school kids and hobyists giving them something inexpensive to learn on. At some point, they decided the majority of their product should go to companies who want to make the Pis a part of a 'value added' piece. Although the other SBCs don't have quite the community, I have been researching them to give my grandkid's schools another option. It may start losing the RPiF some easily loyal customers. If anyone has suggestions, I'd like to hear them...
Just an idea - It depends on what the school kids are doing with the SBCs - if you want to do what this presenter is doing with sensors using grove connectivity check out M5Stack devices. You can code them using several platforms - reasonably priced - nice looking - excellent for learning & fun!
would be interesting if you did some Grove projects with ESP32 and Circuit Python, thank you so much for the video, very informative, professional and so cool!
The idea is great. Look, you can plug and play. You can even run other people's code, adafruit for example, on the system. So absolutely nothing wrong with the hardware, far better than adafruit which involves soldering. What in general is my problem is on the software side. You really want a RTOS, or semi RTOS, with object oriented libraries. You don't want to be writing debounce code, just in the constructor say what you want. GPS? It's a GPS, its a clock, you should be able to treat it as both, a composed sensor. Or a 9DOF sensor? you can guess what that looks like. ie. attitude = DOF_9(pin=8) then make calls ....
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Software support is essential in my opinion. I just had occasion to evaluate a particular sensor. It did not get 5 stars. One of the big reasons is that there was NO LIBRARY available to interface to it. There was sample code for the Arduino and Pi for reading the sensor in its default configuration. There was no sample code of library for modifying that configuration via its serial interface connection.
Always great content, James… I’ll have my team take a look at this!
Your delivery style reminds me so much of Technology Connections! 👏
If you don't fancy screwing the modules to a board or your bench then there are little snap together trays that you can get
Is it possible to connect 2~3 identical i2c sensors on the grove board and how to make them work well?
Thanks for your great sharing.
Thank you for this video! I bought Grove Base Kit for Raspberry Pi on August to learn how IoT works and then for using sensors and LCD in future Aquaponics project.. but nothings works.. all documentations, instructions and examples are out of date and I cannot figure how to get it work.. I am pretty disapointed. any sugestions? e.g. How did you get LCD runing?
Thanks for this James. I agree about the rapid prototyping and having to rewrite a lot of the code. I'll be looking elsewhere
Its a shame they did not use a more readily available connector. It would appear they are are trying to lock you into their products.
My experience with the Grove system is very much the same. To be honest, as of late the code examples don’t seem to work. Beaglebone examples were even worse off; could not even get a button working.
Yeah, it is a shame. Their hardware is really good and I like many of their product ideas. But I always struggle with the software/firmware side of stuff from them.
Sounds like... Not going to waste my money. Seems a pretty common thread that a Chinese company puts out some capable hardware but almost completely neglects documentation. Who wants a product where you have to spend time figuring out if it is even functional.
Thanks for this. What depresses me is the RPiFoundation's (per Eben Upton's interviews) abandonment of the RPi community in favor of OEMs and manufacturer users of the Pi boards. They were originally an Education/teaching foundation oriented to school kids and hobyists giving them something inexpensive to learn on. At some point, they decided the majority of their product should go to companies who want to make the Pis a part of a 'value added' piece. Although the other SBCs don't have quite the community, I have been researching them to give my grandkid's schools another option. It may start losing the RPiF some easily loyal customers. If anyone has suggestions, I'd like to hear them...
Just an idea - It depends on what the school kids are doing with the SBCs - if you want to do what this presenter is doing with sensors using grove connectivity check out M5Stack devices. You can code them using several platforms - reasonably priced - nice looking - excellent for learning & fun!
would be interesting if you did some Grove projects with ESP32 and Circuit Python, thank you so much for the video, very informative, professional and so cool!
Yeah, that might not be what JST means, but just try telling that to RCA connectors. The wider world has spoken.
Make a Grove shield for Ardunio Nano v3 boards and I'll be interested...
is the grove base hat compatible with RPi 4b?
According to Seeed's product page, they claim it is.
Oh really, cool, always wondered where J.S.T came from
The idea is great. Look, you can plug and play. You can even run other people's code, adafruit for example, on the system.
So absolutely nothing wrong with the hardware, far better than adafruit which involves soldering.
What in general is my problem is on the software side. You really want a RTOS, or semi RTOS, with object oriented libraries. You don't want to be writing debounce code, just in the constructor say what you want. GPS? It's a GPS, its a clock, you should be able to treat it as both, a composed sensor. Or a 9DOF sensor? you can guess what that looks like.
ie. attitude = DOF_9(pin=8)
then make calls ....