This conversation is so stupid. "Did hans cheat or is he a good player" hes a pretty good player, who cheated. Dude cant hold his weight at that level once they got serious about cheating. Both Hikaru and magnus adopted him and were bored doing it.
This reminds me of my high school graduation dinner when 18 year old graduating students had to listen to an adult speech for 20 minutes. So far all I hear is nothing from which conclusions can be drawn. 🤷🏼♂
After reading your comment, what came to mind was "tell me I think Hans cheated with really saying it". You have the right to your opinion. We can agree to disagree.💪
@@AdugboChess I hear nothing which sounds like it would lead to any conclusions. I do not hear anything which sounds like conclusions either positive or negative.
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Will say it again... The truth is that Hans did not cheat when he defeated Magnus at the 2020 FTX Crypto Cup. The issue of why Magnus acted like that is because he and many GMs, even Hikaru, had been talking and it had been going around like crazy since as early as 2018 that Hans was cheating... Hans said he never onpy cheated when he was young, after FIDE their investigation they found that Hans cheated as late as 2020. Right before the FTX Cup. They suspended him and investigated further. So he did it to himself. How would you act? If Magnus didn't do that, Hans would have never been caught either, something needed to he done.
@@abgvedrTo be honest, I almost feel insulted when people throw comments like this at me. What am I meant to do?? Not make a great video? Not go the extra mile to ensure my viewers get satisfied?? I would rather die of exhaustion while researching than make a mediocre content. It's my job and I have signed up for it. Nevertheless, thank you❤❤❤. Also, thanks for point out the error. I will work on it to make them better.🎉🎉🎉
This is a great video but i already made a copy comment that i left under a few comments here... So you know my thought about it that you are somewhat wrong on your take. Or seeing it wrong. The truth is that Hans did not cheat when he defeated Magnus at the 2020 FTX Crypto Cup. The issue of why Magnus acted like that is because he and many GMs, even Hikaru, had been talking and it had been going around like crazy since as early as 2018 that Hans was cheating... Hans said he never onpy cheated when he was young, after FIDE their investigation they found that Hans cheated as late as 2020. Right before the FTX Cup. They suspended him and investigated further. So he did it to himself. How would you act? If Magnus didn't do that, Hans would have never been caught either, something needed to he done.
I think that Magnus overdid it and now he sees no way to confess that he was probably wrong. Especially as he is "the goat" and became a bit too arrogant, trying to humiliate opponents by playing bad opening moves and the like. How could he possibly have lost against the #20-something in the world of chess in a fair game and with a regular opening?
Exactly. It was kind of funny how him and Hikaru handled the interviews after the speed chess Championship. Their message to the world was kind of: "See, we were right, we are stronger than him and we just proved it" as they and Danny Rensch were basically kissing each other's ass, (they have business together). These are tactics of distraction, why don't they adress the issue of the cheating accusation? Because they are not willing to admit it nor apologize for the damage they've done to Niemman. They were claiming 2 years ago Hans was an average GM who misteriously got to 2700. What do they say about It now when he has irrefutably proven he is a super GM.
I think Hans was pushed to the wall. He simply sued everyone that tried to defame to defend and stand for himself. His career was on the brink of destruction. I think it is normal for anyone to take any measures necessary to save their career, especially for someone they didn’t do.
@@AdugboChess of course; i've read too much about the theories at this point and I don't know the actual truth, and tbh, it's really not my business. This is only my opinion, no disrespect to anyone; there may have been more productive ways to handle this in real life, but hey, i'm only an amateur so who cares what I think? lol.
Im not a fanboy of any of the players and i feel as though its been an act of defamation.... and all the people involved in throwing mud should be ashamed of themselves.
Pls update with speedchess championships, as your "2nd best blitz player in the world" loses by 10+ scores. Makes blunders which are definitely not top-level
@@botondkoncz1961 I almost did. But I was done editing. The fact that he got to the semifinals at the speed chess championship even further foregrounds that he is a good player that can compete at the highest level. He beat So and Maxim, players many thought he would fall like a pack of cards against, to get to the semi finals. Sadly, he lost to the 1st and 2nd best player in the world. No where in the video did I insinuate he was a better player than Hikaru or Magnus. I am just making a case for him that he is capable of beating Magnus without cheat and that Magnus was wrong to have accused him of cheating knowing what is at stake. (He won some matches against Magnus in the speed chess championship too.) 😉
I would have agreed with you to be honest. The only issue stopping me is that I know owning up to your mistakes (which Hans did) is part of morality. You know what’s immoral? Trolling someone for something they have moved away from (this is what many people in the chess world who bring out their moral compass are doing)
Actually, the answer to the question is very simple and doesn't directly require evidence. Anyone who is somewhat aware of the world, has a bit of intelligence, and knows how chess was used during the Cold War period can easily understand that Hans is a cheater and that this was orchestrated by America. As you know, Magnus is not an American and is the best player in the world. Given that technology has advanced so much and that America is one of the countries where technology is at its best, why shouldn't an American be the world champion? Of course, to convince people that he didn't cheat, there are people who were paid to prepare this video and a social media army making comments that tarnish Carlsen and exonerate Hans.
This is actually a very brilliant opinion. The only issue is that its brilliancy starts and ends before you expressed it. It lost its brilliancy the moment you expressed it. Next time, keep it to yourself my friend.
He cheated when he was 12 in online chess. He has apologized multiple times. Should be loose his entire career because of what he did when he was a kid? Should getting a parking ticket once cause you to lose your driving licence?
@@GenUrobutcher oh ok so if you only kill when your a teen, your not a murderer? Just saying he earned that mistrust, its on him to earn the trust back.
@@Alexandertygreat He has already proven himself teen times over though. He's literally in the semi-final facing magnus after defeating heavy weights like MVL and Wesley lol. Also cheating online in chess is not the same as murder.
@@AdugboChess I hope you have seen the SCC match?? this is the guy who beats Magnus ? in any format?? loool idiots really th-cam.com/video/PKIEIKFCpVg/w-d-xo.html
I don't think Hans cheating. He is just on his top form and very luck that day. I once defeated a 300 more elo than mine, very rare event. Maybe once in a life time
This conversation is so stupid. "Did hans cheat or is he a good player" hes a pretty good player, who cheated. Dude cant hold his weight at that level once they got serious about cheating. Both Hikaru and magnus adopted him and were bored doing it.
The conversation will be stupid to you because you think Hans cheated. You have the right to your opinion though. Bask in it.
This reminds me of my high school graduation dinner when 18 year old graduating students had to listen to an adult speech for 20 minutes. So far all I hear is nothing from which conclusions can be drawn. 🤷🏼♂
Dude, what a weird comparison.
@@ricardzubimendifelip9039 ok explain the speech given by the narrator.
After reading your comment, what came to mind was "tell me I think Hans cheated with really saying it". You have the right to your opinion. We can agree to disagree.💪
@@AdugboChess I hear nothing which sounds like it would lead to any conclusions. I do not hear anything which sounds like conclusions either positive or negative.
You are one of the best chess community analysis channel on TH-cam. With great edition and thumbnail.
I suggest increasing audioquality and make the video title clickbaity.
Also if you can collaborate with great channel like chessbase India it will help your channel. I don't know how you can do the later but that is the best way to kickstart your growth. Goodluck my friend.
@@harshgarg1448 Hello, I read your comment while editing my next video. I was a bit tired of the sheer complexity of it all but these words have given me the boost I need. Thanks you so much. Your feedback is well appreciated. The aim is to make the next video better than the previous one and I promise ❤️❤️❤️.
I really appreciate your comment and I hope you subscribe.
Magnus: (Napoleon Dynamite Voice) i don't lose with white pieces gosh (stomps off)
Will say it again... The truth is that Hans did not cheat when he defeated Magnus at the 2020 FTX Crypto Cup.
The issue of why Magnus acted like that is because he and many GMs, even Hikaru, had been talking and it had been going around like crazy since as early as 2018 that Hans was cheating...
Hans said he never onpy cheated when he was young, after FIDE their investigation they found that Hans cheated as late as 2020. Right before the FTX Cup. They suspended him and investigated further.
So he did it to himself. How would you act? If Magnus didn't do that, Hans would have never been caught either, something needed to he done.
Thanks a lot for your comment Plangnan. I really appreciate ❤❤❤
Very loud sound effects like holy shit bro
@@abgvedr Wow. Sorry about that. I thought it was perfect. Anyone else with this complaint should like this comment.
Thanks for the feedback!!!
@@AdugboChess otherwise great video!
@@abgvedrTo be honest, I almost feel insulted when people throw comments like this at me. What am I meant to do?? Not make a great video? Not go the extra mile to ensure my viewers get satisfied?? I would rather die of exhaustion while researching than make a mediocre content. It's my job and I have signed up for it.
Nevertheless, thank you❤❤❤.
Also, thanks for point out the error. I will work on it to make them better.🎉🎉🎉
This is a great video but i already made a copy comment that i left under a few comments here... So you know my thought about it that you are somewhat wrong on your take. Or seeing it wrong. The truth is that Hans did not cheat when he defeated Magnus at the 2020 FTX Crypto Cup.
The issue of why Magnus acted like that is because he and many GMs, even Hikaru, had been talking and it had been going around like crazy since as early as 2018 that Hans was cheating...
Hans said he never onpy cheated when he was young, after FIDE their investigation they found that Hans cheated as late as 2020. Right before the FTX Cup. They suspended him and investigated further.
So he did it to himself. How would you act? If Magnus didn't do that, Hans would have never been caught either, something needed to he done.
Chaos in the Chess World 🤧. Well done bro!
Thanks a lot 🫡
I think that Magnus overdid it and now he sees no way to confess that he was probably wrong. Especially as he is "the goat" and became a bit too arrogant, trying to humiliate opponents by playing bad opening moves and the like. How could he possibly have lost against the #20-something in the world of chess in a fair game and with a regular opening?
He got in his head to be honest.
Exactly. It was kind of funny how him and Hikaru handled the interviews after the speed chess Championship. Their message to the world was kind of: "See, we were right, we are stronger than him and we just proved it" as they and Danny Rensch were basically kissing each other's ass, (they have business together). These are tactics of distraction, why don't they adress the issue of the cheating accusation? Because they are not willing to admit it nor apologize for the damage they've done to Niemman. They were claiming 2 years ago Hans was an average GM who misteriously got to 2700. What do they say about It now when he has irrefutably proven he is a super GM.
Yes, but also, Nieman 100% cheated
@@hubertlenningrad2252 We are talking about chess over the board. Not sure what you're talking about.
@@ricardzubimendifelip9039 otb chess. Thought that was obvious
if this was nothing, why did Hans try to sue everyone who doesn't like him? lol.
I think Hans was pushed to the wall. He simply sued everyone that tried to defame to defend and stand for himself. His career was on the brink of destruction. I think it is normal for anyone to take any measures necessary to save their career, especially for someone they didn’t do.
@@AdugboChess of course; i've read too much about the theories at this point and I don't know the actual truth, and tbh, it's really not my business. This is only my opinion, no disrespect to anyone; there may have been more productive ways to handle this in real life, but hey, i'm only an amateur so who cares what I think? lol.
@@nakamaazashiro the price of being famous eh?
He didn't sue everyone who doesn't like him😂😂 He sued everyone who publicly accused him of cheating without evidence.
Incredible
Interesting!
Glad you think so!
Im not a fanboy of any of the players and i feel as though its been an act of defamation.... and all the people involved in throwing mud should be ashamed of themselves.
Moral is what you had before you were exposed. You cant have it back, lost forever.
Thanks for your take sir. I really appreciate @pauld3346
@@koff41 😆Stop
People don't like cheaters in any sport. Grow up
Pls update with speedchess championships, as your "2nd best blitz player in the world" loses by 10+ scores. Makes blunders which are definitely not top-level
@@botondkoncz1961 I almost did. But I was done editing. The fact that he got to the semifinals at the speed chess championship even further foregrounds that he is a good player that can compete at the highest level. He beat So and Maxim, players many thought he would fall like a pack of cards against, to get to the semi finals.
Sadly, he lost to the 1st and 2nd best player in the world. No where in the video did I insinuate he was a better player than Hikaru or Magnus. I am just making a case for him that he is capable of beating Magnus without cheat and that Magnus was wrong to have accused him of cheating knowing what is at stake. (He won some matches against Magnus in the speed chess championship too.) 😉
Dude looks like his right eye brow has a mustache 😂
Moral is what you had before you were exposed. You cant have it back, lost forever.
I would have agreed with you to be honest. The only issue stopping me is that I know owning up to your mistakes (which Hans did) is part of morality.
You know what’s immoral? Trolling someone for something they have moved away from (this is what many people in the chess world who bring out their moral compass are doing)
@@AdugboChess Well you disagree. Fancy words!
what in the manipulation-by-a-paid-actor is this
Actually, the answer to the question is very simple and doesn't directly require evidence. Anyone who is somewhat aware of the world, has a bit of intelligence, and knows how chess was used during the Cold War period can easily understand that Hans is a cheater and that this was orchestrated by America. As you know, Magnus is not an American and is the best player in the world. Given that technology has advanced so much and that America is one of the countries where technology is at its best, why shouldn't an American be the world champion? Of course, to convince people that he didn't cheat, there are people who were paid to prepare this video and a social media army making comments that tarnish Carlsen and exonerate Hans.
This is actually a very brilliant opinion. The only issue is that its brilliancy starts and ends before you expressed it. It lost its brilliancy the moment you expressed it. Next time, keep it to yourself my friend.
😂🤣What are you smoking?
Another big amount of nonsense crap....
If you are gonna be a conspiracy theorist, at least say something that makes sense.
Lol the kid is a self admitted cheater, multiple times. Kid has the rep he deserves
He cheated when he was 12 in online chess. He has apologized multiple times. Should be loose his entire career because of what he did when he was a kid? Should getting a parking ticket once cause you to lose your driving licence?
@@GenUrobutcher oh ok so if you only kill when your a teen, your not a murderer? Just saying he earned that mistrust, its on him to earn the trust back.
@@Alexandertygreat He has already proven himself teen times over though. He's literally in the semi-final facing magnus after defeating heavy weights like MVL and Wesley lol. Also cheating online in chess is not the same as murder.
What @GenUrobutcher said... hence the Hans vs the world series...
⁹@@GenUrobutcher
Terrible video, and Hans is a cheater for sure
“If you think Hans is a cheater, I have no words for you. One advice though, move on”
@@AdugboChess I hope you have seen the SCC match?? this is the guy who beats Magnus ? in any format?? loool idiots really th-cam.com/video/PKIEIKFCpVg/w-d-xo.html
@AdugboChess Hans cheated. Also your video genuinely sucks.
What an amount of nonsense crap...
Make it make sense. What do you think??
I don't think Hans cheating. He is just on his top form and very luck that day. I once defeated a 300 more elo than mine, very rare event. Maybe once in a life time
@@radhitawidyasmara3594 it is a normal thing in chess.