History Professor Breaks Down "Hacksaw Ridge" / Reel History
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Nice seeing you guys yesterday, Great video!
Yesterday, all our troubles seemed so far away. Now it looks as though they're here to stay. Oh I believe in war and pain.
I went to a Seventh-Day Adventist school from kindergarten until grade 7. Desmond was talked about with great reverence and was a hero to them.
It’s a shame I can’t put photos in the comments. I was able to visit Hacksaw Ridge while I was stationed on Okinawa. As you stated the ridge itself was only about 25 feet tall. Additionally one issue with the move is how it shows the landscape on top of cliff. In reality the top of the ridge was only about 20 yard wide before it stated a rapid descent on the far side. The bunker you see them engaging was there but it was only yards from where they climbed the ladder. Many of the casualties came from ridge lines further back that overlooked the ridge that this battle was fought on. It makes the actions even more heroic when you consider they were essentially fighting sideways across a football field.
This movie definitely had the clichés, but if it resulted in viewers looking up Desmond Doss and finding out about the real man, it did it’s job. The real story is amazing and Doss, stuck to his convictions. That is a hard thing to do, against societal & peer pressure.
I would do a high school history project on him, so yeah I’d say it worked.
Very true although mostly cliche I loved the third act of the movie 🍿
Ah, but as he said, these are based in truth.
Also a Platoon Sergeant got the Medal of Honor for priming Mortars with his helmet, ON OKINAWA.
And they had to ruin it with a cheap laugh by throwing in a Wilhelm scream.
@SergioArellano-yd7ik How did it have that effect?
My grandfather served in Korea as pacifist. He was able to become a nurse in a mash unit. Very proud of him.
Oh good lord
Klinger?? 😉
So your grandfather was a Officer?
@@chriskalsbeek2252hahaha
Him, don't you mean here?
Glad to see I'm not the only one who hated the scene of the BAR being fired while holding half a corpse. That and the random bumping into the wounded soldier, the staring and screaming with the random sound effects that sounded like a pinball machine when being lit up by machine guns at the beginning of the battle always rubbed me the wrong way.
I know right. That and the jumpscare with the "dead" marine sitting up and screaming were just absurd. Those two scenes alone were enough for me to hate the movie really, what the fuck was the point in that? It's like they intentionally thought "is this a serious movie? No, it's not."
Oh yeah, plus the scene of Vince Vaughn being dragged backwards on his ass firing his grease gun.
Not to mention on top of everything thing else that was mentioned a rifle round would have went completely through the corpse and killed the BAR gunner.
@@Ausl0vich Two scenes made you hate the entire movie? I never thought I'll come across someone who would say that.
@@romelnegut2005 If I watched it again and didn't take it seriously I'd probably be entertained. But those scenes (plus some of the other exaggerations/inaccuracies in the movie) really take away from what is actually a pretty astounding story.
The BAR scene is ridiculous, I agree. For a future review, I'd love to see you review Hamburger Hill, one of the most accurate war movies imo. My Okinawa hero is my grandfather, a gunner's mate 1st class on the USS Teton. He commanded the 40mm anti-aircraft batteries on the ship, which was targeted by over 150 Kamikaze attacks during the battle.
Hamburger hill is one of my favorites
Learned about Desmond Doss when I took the Army’s Combat Medic Course in 1976. He was my Hero from there on.
Another thing that the movie overlooks is that after Desmond Doss was wounded and being carried on a stretcher they came across another wounded man. Desmond being the selfless guy that he was rolled of the stretcher and told his comrades to take the other guy first. Doss then had to play dead for several hours before they came back for him.
"Chosin" is a great documentary, one of the marines used his good friend as a sandbag, and had a lot of issues with for a long time, and went to the guys cousin was also a marine and broke down to him.
Great to see you back!!
Have a GREAT Easter and thanks for your work!!!
As a former infantryman I can attest that “doc” always had a position of respect within the platoon. The challenge with some medics is their courage might cause them to take risks we’re not comfortable with.
YESSSSS! THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING! Great intro as well.
Love your channel. I learn so much.
I never went into combat, but I did take basic training during the Vietnam era, and I learned that American soldiers did not run into an enemy position in a mass like they showed in that movie. Before they advanced, they would count off by 1s and 2s. Then they would pick points of cover. The 2s would stay in cover and deliver covering fire as the 1s moved forward to a point of cover nearer the enemy. Once a 1 was in a covered position, the 2 would advance as the 1 gave a covering fire for him. Thus, the enemy was under constant fire as the unit advanced. That was one of the reasons that intense comradery developed among so many units. The man standing next to you was the one who protected you in battle and you were the one who you protected him in the next minute. You needed to trust and understand him and he needed to trust and understand you.
Love this channel, great job Professor‼️
As a history buff I love your channel and all your videos. Really informative! Thanks😁
Happy Easter guys. Thanks for all the good content.
Thank you 💛 for this excellent breakdown
Thanks for tuning in!
Yeah, I doubt that having knives in the barracks at boot camp, much less throwing them at the toes of your fellow recruits was a practice the drill instructors would allow. Also human bodies do a poor job of providing cover against rifle rounds. Thanks again Jared. It was fun and informative as always.
You mean people aren’t invulnerable to the things designed to go through them? Next you’re gonna tell me that car doors aren’t bulletproof either!
@@lefdee lol!
My grandfather said it was a normal pass time, even in basic, but they would do it outside so they wouldn't put holes in the floor, he said most guys brought their own knives from home
Mumblypeg aka throwing a knife between a person's feet, then they move one foot until they touch the blade, then throw the knife between the first idiot's feet, until one person quits, or someone gets a knife stuck in their foot (or, if lucky, the knife bounces off the leather boot) does occur! Consequences are common!
I witnessed it as a private! As an NCO, I did my best to prevent it; I don't know if I was completely successful; however, none of my soldiers had to receive medical treatment from that particular form of stupidity.
I think almost everyone knows that or at least I did. That scene didn't bother me knowing that.
This was one of my favorite movies, thank you for reviewing it. I am not sure if you were going to point this out, not Glover but a officer that wanted to get Doss court marshalled actually got court marshalled himself for cowardice I believe. The number 100, they actually went out and tried to find 100 that would say that Doss saved the,
Cunningham ran during an engagement on Guam. Captain Glover in an interview for 'The Conscientious Objector' (which i believe someone uploaded here on TH-cam at least ive watched here) said that he saw Cunningham running for the rear and drew a rifle bead on him... They claimed Doss was a coward when Cunningham was the real coward.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
I’ve been waiting for this one.
Not a movie I have ever sought out, but your break down was as fascinating as ever. I particularly liked the clip of the modern day Hacksaw Ridge for the "then and now" comparison, I always find those interesting. I believe Okinawa was the first part of Japan itself to be invaded and had a Japanese civilian population, so no doubt that was an additional reason the Japanese fought so hard to defend it. Great video, thanks guys.
Thanks! I'm getting better at this youtube thing lol
Actually it was Iwo Jima that was the first Japanese soil to be invaded.
@@ricardoaguirre6126 - Thanks, I had it in mind that Okinawa came before Iwo Jima, but on checking the dates I stand corrected!
@@ricardoaguirre6126 you could even argue it was saipan as that was a japanese colony, though as a minor correction @dave okinawas are okinawans not japanese
Bro I've been watching your guy's videos for years and that intro just made realize how funny you guys are. Good editing lol
Thanks for a very insightful video!
love this video. thank you.
You're welcome!
You had good notes on the weapons. The BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) was a Section or Squad light machine-gun with the bipod mount, first developed in WW1 for trench warfare, and being magazine rather than belt fed it could be handled by one man for the purpose of clearing enemy trenches. In that respect it was an analogue to the British Bren, which was developed from a similar Czech design, hence the name Bren from 'Br'no in Czecholslovakia and 'En'field (Royal Ordnance factory) in North London.
The M3 "grease gun" is another interesting design, as you say, a design philosophy of being cheap to produce and used stamped pressed steel construction, like the British Sten machine-carbine. While the M3 used the same .45 calibre pistol ammunition developed for the 1911 Colt as the M1 Thompson sub-machine gun, the Sten design opted for a copy of the German 9mm parabellum pistol ammunition developed for the P.07 Luger pistol and also used in the MP40 machine-pistol. The idea being that the Sten could be dropped to resistance forces in German occupied Europe and any MP40 magazines they could capture were interchangeable with the Sten. Curiously, the M3 "grease gun" was also made in a 9mm version, so that it too could be supplied to Norwegian and French resistance forces, and use German or British 9mm ammunition as available.
The M3 in US Infantry Divisions were issued on a scale of six per Rifle Company HQ as a pool, to be distributed at the discretion of the Commanding Officer. I imagine some people nominally armed with M1 Carbines might opt for the grease gun for close encounters.
Everything you said was absolutely correct but just to add, the Thompson was a fairly expensive gun to produce, with a unit cost of approximately $357 ($6,270 today) vs the M-3 grease gun unit cost of around $15. The grease gun had a slightly slower rate of fire of 450 rounds per minute vs 750 per minute of the Thompson, but it’s relatively cheap design alleviated the need for field repairs and the logistics of getting spare parts to the field. If the gun broke it could simply be disposed of and replaced.
@@billdavis6900TO CLARIFY:
That was the price of the early m1928 models. The Army simplified it's design and got the cost down. Sources are all over the places but the range I found was between $45-70 a piece. Still very expensive for the time but way lower than $357
@@diegochavez7203 I understand that there were later versions of the Thompson that were less expensive to produce purely from a unit cost standpoint but that wasn’t the only consideration or calculation metric. Even with a simplified design during WWII, the Thompson had too much steel in it and took longer to produce en masse, which is why large numbers of them couldn’t be produced. Steel was important because of WWII rationing and low production counts was why except for paratroopers, only officers and high ranking NCO’s were allowed to carry them. Plus all of the issues I stated in my previous comment about parts and the logistics of getting parts to front line troops. It was still one hell of a weapon in its day.
Another great video! Would be great to see you review Unbroken and Unbroken 2
Thank you for the review.
hey jared, it's the grumpy old fart from n.h. again. as usual, a great presentation. i love the b.a.r. scene, how many guys wish they had one of those endless magazines. regarding the sling he used to lower the wounded, the knot depicted in boot camp, which his seargrent escribes as a bra, was a bolan on a bight{bit} it was required for all rookies in the n.h. school of fire standards, and training to learn. you put your legs through the loops, and wrap it around you. good review. john
I love how angry you got at that one scene. 😆
They earned it!
There's an interesting parallel between this film and the British comedy series Dad's Army*. In one episode one of the platoon's oldest and most infirm members, Private Godfrey is revealed to have been a conscientious objector in WW1, and is shunned by the other members until someone realises he was awarded the Military Medal as a stretcher bearer at the battle of the Somme. He's then made the medic. He doesn't bring this up himself at any point, even though it would answer his critics.
*Dad's Army is an excellent 1970s BBC comedy about the Home Guard and British Home front during WW2. The Home Guard drew its members from people who couldn't serve in the regular Army because they were too old, infirm or just too important to the war effort in some way to send abroad. Its mostly played for laughs, but there's some serious points in it.
Interesting fact 1: As it was filmed in the 70s and most of the actors were playing older characters, many of them were veterans of WW2.
Interesting fact 2: Arnold Ridley, who played Private Godfrey was born in 1896 and actually served in both the army and the Home Guard during ww2. Not only that, like his character, he served in WW1 until being badly injured at... The Somme!
Interesting fact 3: His Great niece is the actress Daisy Ridley (Rey in the latest Star Wars trilogy)
A great video. I’m a historian myself and went to Hacksaw ridge a few years ago. I took photos on the ridge. An amazing feeling there.
kUDOS! After a month out of the country i got myself settled in and decided to see how far behind i fell on your content. good to see you're still strong at it. I had only seen this movie once, it was okay but too much hollywood liberty for my liking but as always love the historical background.
Hey Jared, my literal reaction to the BAR scene was a verbal out loud mind you by myself in my living room scream. Are you f****** kidding me. So thanks for pointing that out. I can't explain as someone who loves history and movies how much I enjoy your channel. I think I mentioned this before. I would like to see you break down some movies post civil war Indian wars era. What are my dad's favorite films I will fight no more forever. And one of my favorite films dances with wolves. I know one is loosely based on actual events and the other one is pretty much really fiction. But I'd still love to see it. Looking forward to next time thanks Jared
You should also do a review about the first Conscientious Objector Soldier who was awarded a Medal of Honor, Alvin York. Yes Alvin York did wind up using a gun to save lives, where Desmond Doss is the first Conscientious Objector who refused to pick up a weapon, to be awarded a Medal of Honor.
My Dad enlisted in the Navy to be a Corpsman. To get the Pharmacist Rate, he had to enlist for six years. His recruiter told him when he graduated Pharmacist Mate School he would have over six months in the Navy and could take two weeks leave before he reported to his first duty station. He was sent to San Diego for Boot Camp, then he reported to Balboa Naval Hospital on 6 December 1941 for his Pharmacist Mate School. Due to the Japanese attack the next morning, upon completion of his Pharmacist Mate School he was sent directly to Naval Hospital Pearl Harbor. He was at Pearl Harbor till February 44 when he was sent back to San Diego to get, as his record shows FldMedSchBn.,Camp Pendleton. While in transit he took 24 days of leave, the only leave he took in 6 years in the Navy. He then was put in the 3rdBn8thMar FMF. He was in the Battle of Okinawa. Because his enlistment went through September 47 he was part of the first Marines Occupation force in Japan.
Growing up all he ever told us was about being in Pearl Harbor and the occupation of Japan. It was not till many years after his death my oldest brother stopped in Saint Louis and got a copy of his record did we learn about him being in the battle of Okinawa. I went to the Corpsman FB page ans was sent to the Hospital Corpsman's page with historical photographs. I combed through and found a picture with the caption saying a Navy Corpsman helping a civilian at an Army Hospital on Okinawa. My brother also got a copy of several letters written from November 1945 to July 1946 Dad wrote to the Commanding Offficer, Military Government Headquarters on behalf os a S.Kimura, about the treatment of Japanese.
Your channel is so underrated. Every time I scroll down I'm surprised by the lack of subs. Hope you hit that 100k soon.
Eh...We'll get there eventually. Can't rush success
Of course Garfield is limber on his feet...He was Spiderman for crying out loud...
It’s a great story, deserves to be known.
Even a flawed movie can, motivate a young person to care about history, and to learn from it.
One of the only resent war movies I’ve seen that got the ages of the soldiers mostly right was 1917. The majority of the soldiers seem to be late teens to early twenties.
Brilliant film
Great story. Glad there are still film makers around that will re tell these heroes stories. We can's let these stories get lost in time!
Will check out the primary source you recommended. Thanks!
Man I love it when you review "Bad historical scenes", you should review either Battle of the Bulge (1963) or Midway (2019) which are both HORRIFIC in terms of "They TRIED to make things accurate but wound up making things a lot worse"
Oh we're getting there, trust me!
Really? I found the Midway remake to be extremely accurate, with the only major issues being the "Both-Sides" approach to the film that attempted to excuse/justify the atrocities committed by the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy. And to be fair, I felt the reason they did that is because they feared public backlash would label the film as "Anti-Japanese". But outside of that, I found the vast majority of the film to be extremely faithful to the battle and what preceded it.
@@kylewilson2819 From what I remember, the dive bombing scenes where they do the final dive on the carriers show WAY too many American dive bombers get shot down during the dive. IIRC I don't think ANY actual dive bombers were shot down during the dive, but they needed to put "excitement" into the background so you see 5-6 Americans get shot down during the sequence.
This movie is a classic example of “ When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” still enjoyed it.
Not really. Because the reality is even more astounding.
More like when fact becomes legend, tone down the facts. A lot of this movie is hollywoodisms making an over the top war movie, but the stuff explicitly about Doss are often toned down because some of it is to incredible to believe.
I enjoy reel history immensely, I wish more students of all ages were exposed and had an understanding of the sacrifice of not only the World War Two generation but of every generations conflict in our nations history. Both my wife and I retired from service in the United States Army but both our fathers served in World War Two, Korea and Vietnam. All who experience war are altered by it both physically and psychologically. I never understood my own Father till he finally opened up about some of the horrors he experienced on Iwo Jima and Okinawa before his passing. It was almost like he had to unburden himself before his transition from this world. I wish I had talked about it sooner with him but he kept the details of that part of himself hidden till the end of his life So few of our current population understand military service and even less the inhuman experience that those who engage in close combat experience. Jared Ferderick performs a great service in tying to pass on the unvarnished reality of military conflict and the tremendous debt we owe those who sacrificed all for our nation. Each and every one of the hundreds of thousands or more of our servicemen and servicewomen who committed the ultimate sacrifice have a unique story to tell and I like how Jared tries to pass that idea to his viewers during each of these segments. Thanks Jared
Thank you! We're working hard to make the information more easily accessible. Our upcoming website will have a resources tab for teachers to discuss historical films with their students with lots of primary resources... free of charge. 😃
Sorry Jared, at 24:50 is the SCR-536 "handie-talkie" radio, and at 24:53 is the handset linked by a visible cord to the SCR-300 "Walkie-talkie" backpack radio you can see on the back of the guy next to the officer talking into the "telephone" handset. These are both radio sets issued to Infantry Companies. The Battalion had six SCR-300 sets belonging to the Communications Platoon of HQ Company, two retained at Battalion HQ and the others deployed with one each to the Companies, which have to provide the operator. Six SCR-536 "handie-talkies" were issued to each Company, two at HQ and one to each Platoon.
I am indebted to Yves J. Bellanger for his outstanding book, U.S. Army Infantry Divisions 1943-45 Volume 1 - Organization, Doctrine and Equipment.
I believe you're correct in saying the two were not compatible systems, because they operated in different frequency ranges. The SCR-300 operated between 40-48 MHz on the Battalion net, and the SCR-536 within the Company on 3.5-6.0 MHz between Company HQ and the Platoons, so these characters should not have been able to talk to each other using different radio systems.
Thanks for that. I did notice they were both radios and wondered if Jared was right nor not
@@dragons123ism - I spotted he was wrong about the "field telephone" straight away, but I'm not a radio expert and had to look up to understand how the radios were used. The different radio sets were used for different purposes because they had different capabilities, like range, etc., so they were used on different networks and could not talk to each other. It makes sense because you can't have everyone on the battlefield using the same frequency!
Excellent breakdown of the movie. Mel Gibson does go over the top too much. One of the problems with Hollywood and movies is they seem to think they need to add things into a story when the real story is interesting enough. I agree about the guy firing the BAR while carrying the torso of the comrade.
Andrew Garfield was great in this movie. This is my favorite performance by him.
I've said this before and I'll saying it again. There are no other men I have more respect for that the Combat Medic.
"So you don't want to kill some Japanese."
"I don't want to kill anyone. I just want to save some lives."
"Being late for a latrine inspection has got to be the most heinous crime in the Army ev-ar. Life in prison cleaning latrines!!!" -- Captain Sobel. "Lighten up Herbert." -- Colonel Sink.
"If you visit Hacksaw Ridge you may be disappointed by the scale of it."
I'm sure that at the time these guys were about to scale the cliff it looked as tall as the Grand Canyon.
Jarred, I would love to see your take on "Sergeant York" starring Gary Cooper.
You've pointed out a lot of issues with this movie which I hadn't known before. Thank you.
Hey that's why we're here! You're welcome!
A note about the grease gun. Although cheap to produce, if I remember correctly, the last conflict the US military used grease guns was Operation Desert Storm. A small handful of tank crews still used them. Special Operations units and National Guard units may have used them later than that. They were simple and easy weapons. They are still being used in smaller countries today.
In one of the documentaries I watched, the man with the shot off legs did live, and lived to the age of 77.
Excellent critique as always Jared! I just wanted to ask about the beginning of your video where Hugo Weaving's character (Doss senior) is doing his anti-war monologue in the graveyard, apparently among the headstones of all his mates who died in WW1. How is that possible? I'm pretty sure they would have all been buried in France wouldn't they? I'm a bit surprised you didn't pick up on that. Cheers.
Rob, as was the case with both World Wars, next of kin could have the remains of loved ones left overseas, interred in a domestic national cemetery, or buried in a local graveyard. So the idea of local vets being buried locally is not a stretch at all. Although, their headstones would probably not have been regimented. He also may have been visiting the national cemetery is Danville, which is not far from their native Lynchburg.
Thank You
Regarding the soldier's ages- after being infantry combat in Vietnam at 21 I joined the Reserves as a Close Quarter Combat instructor at age 51 for the Iraq War. My father was drafted into the Army for WWII at age 34.
Hello! When will you be reviewing Greyhound? Love this channel!
You will be pleased by one of our forthcoming episodes this summer--with a special guest no less!
15:57 I was waiting for that!!
There was a SGT on Okinawa that hit the motor rounds on a rock and threw them over an embankment in one engagement and killed about forty Japanese one night.
Can you please do Black Hawk Down next? Great video, as always! :)
Regarding the father, Tom Doss, signing up for the draft wasn't out of the ordinary at the time. There were several drafts during the early part of the war, and my late wife's grandfather, born in China in 1887, is recorded in the "Old Man's Draft", including men from 45 to 64 years old. They were looking for men who had skills useful in the war effort.
Yeagh they filmed part of it in my mainstreet in Richmond NSW, about two blocks from where I'm sitting now. Shut down a chunk of the town leading into Christmas. The affected shop owners loved it.
This story is interesting to me because my grandfather was a conscientious objector during WWII. He was a Mennonite and served in some domestic work projects instead of the military. After the war, he tended cattle on a ship bringing relief supplies to Europe.
Any update on when we can see the Generation Kill breakdowns?
This movie is very cliche it would have been better if mel gibson didnt have anything to do with it because the combat scenes look like a early 90's shooter game and the character writing is basically GI Joe i think we need more movies about army medics and navy corpsman though. Would be awesome to see a movie about Roy Benavidez or another Okinawa vet Robert Eugene Bush because these stories are already unbelievable without painful cliche and nonsensical violence.
What an extraordinary man.
My LPN at Fort Sam was Seventh Day Adventist. But he joined that Church after he enlisted.
Hey so, on the age of soldiers in the 77th, I thought the same when I first saw the movie, BUT I recently found out, in fact they WERE abnormally old for the time, they were an experimental unit, an experiment to identify what would happen if exceptionally old men had to be relied on in war. They were a highly decorated unit and ultimately was the most effect army infantry unit in the pacific, earning the the nicknames "old bastards" and "the 77th marines" (the latter being a HUGELY complimentary title if you know anything about US marine culture). The reason they were on hacksaw was they were the unit thrown at the biggest problems (because they solved them every time) the army would send units in before them to figure out where the friction points were and then once they knew, then the 77th would solve them.
In your classes, do you talk about the US Army Air Corp/Force? If so, do you go beyond the pilot to what the ground crew and other support was doing? For example, what was the optimal size of the ground crew for a P-47, or P-38, or eventually a P-51? What bombers were used before the B-29 and B-32? How old were the Grandpa's there? You might be too young for 1st hand discussions, but my Dad & Uncles were in that fight, some in ET and others in PT.
I read somewhere that Doss helped rig the landing craft netting at Hacksaw Ridge.
Relaxin Jackson's where I did my training back in 2014!
As a 7th day Adventist
I always feel happy whenever Doss is the subject
What a guy
While you were in Lynchburg did you have a chance to visit Bedford?
How the the tale of the tin can sailors isn't a movie is beyond me. And Ian tolls series is so do epic !
What a great video! I really enjoyed the movie but was shocked at how much they got wrong (which I didn’t know until seeing this) also hated the torso scene. No soldier would ever do that and how much does a torso weigh!? At least 100 lbs. Andy, thank you for service.
Great video, it'd be crazy if someone used this for a class paper...
Imagine that............
I would like to comment on the age of the actors. While your enlisted are mostly younger, particularly present day, My grandfather was drafted at the age of 31 for WW2 and was a pvt in the infantry for the war. He was in Italy for a lot of the war.
Could you do a review of Clint Eastwood's WWII movies Flags of Our Fathers and Letters from Jima?
I know yall said yall will do Gen Kill at somepoint but I was wondering if yall had plans to do Netfilixs medal of honor
We haven't delved into too many documentaries yet, so we will see.
Like Andy I did my basic training at Ft. Jackson SC but in 1992.
Barracks life for us during Vietnam was pretty similar blend of characters and activities, so I find it so believable.
I’m surprised that a man they called “Sledgehammer” wasn’t even mentioned in this movie. He was a Huge part of the war in Okinawa. I was stationed at Camp Sukiran in 1966 - just a dozen miles or so from Hacksaw Ridge.
Ive always been curious. I believe Eugene Sledge or maybe RV Burgin pointed it out in an interview. Japanese soldiers, when they ran out/retreated from/banzai'ed out of a trench or bunker they were always either holding their pants up with one hand or wearing only a loin cloth and carrying their weapons in the other hand. Why were they doing this? I haven't been able to find anything else out there....Love the channel!
They lost so much weight while under siege that their clothes no longer fit.
There is a talk by Sledge where he thought the Japanese did it as some kind of bushido thing so their pants would fall down when they were killed. Not sure if that's a misunderstanding on his part though. I think the talk I am thinking about is on TH-cam from the Mises institute.
9:25 when I was 20 I went on a Sail Training association trip in the UK. On board were 40 or so young men and women from all across the country, including 3 Scots. One of them was from the Skye and I swear we had to get the other 2 to translate about 60% of what he said lol
Any chance of a review of The Final Countdown? (1980, starring Kirk Douglas and Martin Sheen).
That would be a good one for an Alternative History selection! Jared owns that one.
I would like to recommend "generation war". Its a german made movie series. A German "band of brothers" so to speak, following 5 young Germans and their expectations of the war and Nazi Party and how those images are challenged throuhout their lives as soldiers, nurses and propaganda instruments. Its the german perspective on WWII through the eyes of "nomal germans" at that time.
I'm from Gadsden,Alabama, which is 10 minutes from Piedmont where Doss lived the rest of his life.
I used to live in Lynchburg VA. To be honest, I didn’t like living there and I’ve never been back but historically there are some interesting things in that area. Just South of Lynchburg is the Appomattox Courthouse where General Lee surrendered to the North in the Civil War. Lynchburg also borders Bedford County which has a WWII memorial because quite a few young men from Bedford were killed in Normandy on D-Day because they were in the 29th Infantry division. Poplar Forest which was Thomas Jefferson’s summer estate is also there just outside the Lynchburg City Limits.
Theatrical Liberty Bullshit; one of the best lines I have heard in your reviews.
It was from the heart!
The mortar round grenade scene wasnt at all unrealistic there are multiple accounts of that, the only thing they had to land on their nose to have much of a chance to explode so u had to arch your throw alot more than a grenade
The landscape may be lush by now, but the Navy shelled the everloving crap out of the area prior to the landings
What pissed me off about this movie was the advertising. Desomd doss was a hero who held to his beliefs, but the advertising would have you believe that he was special for not carrying a weapon. No medics were issued rifles, many elected to not even carry sidearms. He didn't train with one yes, but would have never been issued one in the first place.
FYI, true in Europe but not in the Pacific.
"Japanese soldiers would often purposefully target aid men to demoralize the men under their care and cause more casualties, even going as far as shouting out "Medic!" in English to draw them out. As a result, many aid men discontinued the wear of the Red Cross markings, and began to carry weapons to defend themselves and their patients."
Demsond is the living embodiment of the Good Samaritan.
Yshould see some of the towns in the Australian outback , and coastal towns.
OK ...so everyone knows about the "Desmond Doss This Is Your Life" episode on YT right? If you don't it is a little corny old TV program that covered people of note through the eyes of the people that knew them. You get to meet some of the people he saved along with his family.
Australians played Tom Doss and Captain Glover in the movie. -Hugo Weaving and Sam Worthington respectively.
I love this movie. I don't mind the liberties taken with the story. It's not a documentary, after all.
Finally! Thanks for putting into kinder words what I have always thought of this movie.
It was released at a time when everyone was expected to shower all vets with thanks and gushing praise. No one dared say anything negative about this film.
This review/analysis is a good example of how to remember stuff.
Instead of waxing philosophic endlessly I'll add
Just one thing more. I like The Patriot. One of my few Saturday afternoon backgrounds. Josey Wales, Memphis Belle, Roadhouse is the usual lineup.
Hacksaw Ridge? Dang silliest movie ever.
You think Hacksaw Ridge was sillier than The Patriot? The Patriot presented itself as patriotic, but was more about revenge against a cartoonishly evil version of the British Army.
@@JonathanRossRogers Yes. The Patriot contained many iconic scenes and themes which I still apply daily.
"Stay the course" is one example that is repeated over and over throughout all of our lives. Whether we are building a nation, defeating a virus, or raising a family it is inspiring to reflect on Benjamin Martin echoing his KIA son by staying the course.
Remember, I am not talking about historical accuracy or plausibility. It is more of the majestic example made by sticking to a plan and helping others do the same.
I watched HR one time only and TP many times so I know one better than the other.
And yes on the evil cartoon villian. I was raised on Rocky and Bullwinkle, Scoobydoo, Snidely Whiplash etc, so anyone with an accent is a bad guy.
I even have a hard time with Prof. Jared when he adds a W to the word 'combat'. I'm working on it. Smiley face goes here.
@@PvtEd I didn't mean to say that there was nothing valuable about "The Patriot." There were silly parts in "Hacksaw Ridge," but what makes it sillier?
@@JonathanRossRogers That's a good question. I'll think on it.
the Thompson is also HEAVY!
Yea I own one, they are surprisingly heavy. - Andrew
Actually, the reason why they have older people play the part of WW2 troops is because back then, 18-20 year olds looked older. They lived through the great depression, and had worked in factories as kids. That ages you. In fact, when Steven Spielberg was directing Saving Private Ryan, he purposely casted actors a little older to fit the part.
I was thinking more Full Metal Jacket with the sergeant reminding me of the gunny.
At the end of this program you said that Desmon had it tough after the war, the sad truth (and a history professor you would know ) is that hero’s rarely live happy lives. Weather PTSD, health or those who try to stay to stay in the lime light long after the world had past them by. Any of the Greek myths will make my point. Heracles was bi polar,Jason’s wife killed his sons when he took a younger wife and Bellerophones pride led him to believe that he could take on the gods and when pegasus through him before he could reach Olympus he wandered alone angry despising the gods
Well said.