Here's the trick to click baiting: "The annoying relentless paladin build" scares people off. "The *MOST* annoying Paladin build *EVER* " draws them in. (jk, I have no idea tbh, just sounded funny)
To tick the DM off just that little bit more with this build, when you get to higher levels, try adding Warcaster into the mix so you can use Hold Monster, Banishment and Geas as a Reaction XD
At Level 8, you can take the mobility feat, which increases your speed to 40' and allows you to move in to melee, attack and retreat without provoking an attack of opportunity.
And then with haste it’s doubled to 80 feet I think. And finally at level 20 you get a flying speed of 60 feet. With mobile that’s 70 and hasted that becomes 140 if I’m reading this correctly
That's what I did with my first campaign character lmao. Had a Vengeance Paladin Centaur that picked the mobile feat and got ahold of the Horseshoes of speed. 80ft innate movement, doubled to 160ft with haste. Local horse man moves at INCREDIBLE HIGH SPEED
@@zach415 I got to lvl 20 with my path of vengeance. But I loved using the spell “Find greater steed” to get a Pegasus, because then it’s your magical BFF for life, with a flying speed of 90. With haste it’s 180. And if you use your action and hasted action, you have movement speed of 540. Now if I’ve done the math right, that’s about 55-60 mph. And I was dubbed by my party as the flying horse truck of vengeance.
If you tire of retreating, cast Thunderous Smite the round before. When you get your reaction attack, if your foe fails their save they are prone and can't stand up as their speed is zero. Next round, advance and use your three Halberd attacks with advantage!
I recommend that you put the numbers on the screen when you’re makin’ the video. I was listening and looking at the static screen, wishing that I had a visual representation of what you were talking about. :D
@@HowtoRPG making an overlay infront of your background or displaying a character sheet isnt that difficult. Poor representation as some people are visual learners and just talking wont help the people that cant just sit and listen to a podcast of a class build
so one thing I'd like to mention is that native tanks which are tanks that drive enemy attacks away from the party have a particular subclass, so the paladin gets the oath of redemption if I'm correct the barbarian gets path of ancestors, and the fighter gets cavalier plus battle master and they tend to make the best native tanks as their subclass abilities lend themselves to being one
This gets cool with Vow of Enmity (advantage on attack rolls) since you will be front line and likely to have 2 attacks with adv. on your turn (level 5 paladin onwards), and 1 attack with adv. as AoO, increasing your chances to crit and stack crit smites. Things get even crazier if you took 1 level Warlock for Hexblade's Curse to expand your crit range to 19-20 rolls, but this starts to eat into your Bonus Action economy. The next feat it you make it to PAM Paladin 8 would of course be GWM (nothing new here).
After one gets to level eight with this paladin build, it's worth dipping into sorcerer or bard just for the spell slots so one can dish out more of those those sweet, sweet smites.
@sum body You'll have to forgive me as I was three sheets to the wind when I wrote that horrid post. When I sobered up I realized my mistake and being quite properly embarrassed deleted it. You're quite right of course that a single level dip would not have an effect - one would have to take multiple levels in a pure spellcaster class to have any significant effect on the number of spell slots.
I got a bit of a thought for lower levels. Halberd is not as worth it as a sheild and spear. Why. Well your not running into creatures within 10 feet of attack for one so your polearm master attack always goes through. So theres no disadvantage there, but the advantage is the +2 AC. You take less damge this way when sacrificing nothing until you get setinal. Then you change to a halberd.
Speed Demon Paladin: 6 Levels in Hunter Ranger (For Hunter’s Mark) 7 Levels in Oath of Glory Paladin (For that Living Legend Status.) 7 Levels in Fighter (Cavalier) (Dueling Fighting Style) Mobile Feat + Polearm Master Feat + Defensive Duelist Feat Find Greater Steed (Pegasus) + Haste Spells Pegasus has a movement speed of 60 feet. Mobile increases that to 70 feet. I think Aura of Alacrity also increases that to 80 feet. Haste would make that 160 feet. (If not 140 feet is still fast.) Super fast, but we can go even faster. The Pegasus also has a flying speed of 90 feet. Mobile increases that to 100 feet. I think Aura of Alacrity would increase that to 110 feet. Haste makes that to 220 feet. (If not, 200 feet is still fast.) You can literally charge someone in the blink of an eye. *They truly won’t know what hit them.* Of course, the Pegasus gets fatigued after. It’s still an amazing light-speed divine smite attack. Unwavering Mark + Hunter’s Mark also greatly weaken the target for you to deal great damage in that 1 attack.
The rogue might be mad if no one is actually near an enemy. Other ranged attackers might not have a problem. AC will likely be 17-18 by that level with the strength and armor proficiency with 2 handed weapons. The saves will be decent at that level with the aura of protection. Party probably won’t like the mobility of the paladin and not being able to take advantage of the 10ft aura too. The hunters mark seems very effective with the many attacks too. I have a build that is similar, has less damage potential over all with the single character. Human variant str based rogue scout with a 1 level dip in cleric. Pick the tavern brawler feat and the grappler feat. The 3rd level feature to move half speed when an enemy ends its turn within 5ft of you has no other requirements. You can grapple an creature, use it as cover to effectively get 2 AC bonus like a shield, and shank the creature to pieces with sneak attack. I picked arcana cleric for extra cantrips to include booming blade and prestidigitation. Flavored the guy as a military vet who worked as a cook but got captured and had to survive as a POW. Found religion there and brought him through. A cleric with heavy armor proficiency is probably a better choice for the AC boost though.
Actually Elven Accuracy Vengeance Paladin will be much more annoying than Variant Human one. Triple advantage vs Bosses combined with smites is bonkers. And splash 1 level dip of Hexblade there to be SAD CHA. And after level 7 (1 Hex/6 Vengeance) finish rest of the build with either Divine Sorcerer or Lore Bard.
This is a great build, but you can’t do the whole polearm “stop them in their tracks” deal which is the point of this build. I do adore the elven accuracy half elf vengeance paladin though, in general. I’m not sure which of these I actually like more LOL.
You want a really annoying build? Battlemaster fighter , oath of vengeance paladin , inquisitive rogue. Take the great weapon fighting style Take the feats Polearm Master Sentinel Great weapon master Take the battlemaster maneuvers goading Push Maneuvering Make sure you have a pike or glaive or any other heavy two handed polearm with reach. Before a battle starts take your time to study with the battlemaster. Then hunters mark with paladin spell. With inquisitive rogue you gain sneak attack when not sneaking. Use the battlemaster ability to maneuver allies into flanking position. Then use goading on the enemy so they only attack you. With the feats you have, they come within range and you get attack of opportunity. If you hit they are stunned. But you also smite and sneak attack and get hunters mark damage. Rinse and repeat for massive amounts of damage in an attack of opportunity. And then even more in rounds of combat. Best part is, since you have reach, anything within 10 ft will get attacked with attack of opportunity and potentially takes massive damage as well. Congratulations, you have become the ultimate defense and offense with 1 big drawback. You are heavily reliant on prepping before the battle with melee meaning if your caught off guard by ranged, things can fall apart very quickly. Oh and I forgot to mention. Action Surge, Oath of Enmity, and extra attacks.
now to make a pacifist with this build, powerful characters restricted by alignment and self-made rules are my favourite. "I can't attack the little guy, he'd get seriously injured!" and then that person rolls max damage on a crit and absolutely wipes the floor with you.
If you want a op build go with warlock hexblade level 5 and divine sorcerer level 5 pick catnap as a spell and cure wounds. Congrats you can heal for 3d8 4 times per incounter and recover all of your spellslots in 2 hours :0
I love the hat! (Said at start of video.) My input would be us the Tunnel fighter fighting style. Cures your multiple target issue. What I did for my polearm master fighter.
@@zach415 It is not. It was a UA that never got published so AL wouldn't allow it, nor would alot of tables that I know cause it breaks the action economy of the game and really overpowers 1 PC. Especially if you add on a reach weapon with sentinel.
This works well. Unless there's more than one enemy.... or they have a decent ranged attack... or they have spells... or they have a longer reach than you.... or they just dash around you... or you don't see them coming and are out of position... or you miss your opportunity attack. Not saying its a bad tactic but think you're over selling it just a tad :D
@@HowtoRPG Why battle master? Can you expand? :) I would have said something like sorcerer or warlock, and then have war caster so you can throw booming blade during you AoO..
Hi there , i have a question about Tower Shield. If I plant it into the ground for 3/4 cover can mobs simply walk around the shield and ignore the 3/4 cover?
So, we shouldn't do this if the other party mele includes a Rogue, correct? Because of lower opportunity for Sneak Attacks since the Paladin keeps withdrawing. Is this ok for a Monk? Wait a Minute, why isn't this a Monk feature? They were supposed to be the hit and run tactical character.
Am I the only one who hates the Polearm Master feat? That goes for Crossbow master too. These are feats for fringe weapons that make them better than more traditional weapons that don't have equivalent feats. If you want to be the best archer, you have to use a crossbow+ mastery. If you want to be the best great weapon fighter you have to use a polearm+ mastery.
@@HowtoRPG So let me get this straight. You did a live stream where you discussed stuff you presumably had on paper or on a doc on your computer, edited it post stream, and at no point did you think maybe overlaying the pics in the stream with the info you're talking about OR interlacing some slides with the data would be beneficial?
Maybe its me but I find Vengeance to be overrated. Its very good but not the best subclass in my opinion. I dunno about other people but in my campaigns, 99% of the time, if i'm upfront i'm not getting any opportunity attacks unless they are forced by a spell like Dissonant Whispers. So the amount of play i'd get out of Relentless Avenger is basically nothing. Pretty bad when other Aura's give you things like resistance against magic spells to you and others 10ft from you, increase bonus to every Initiative roll to you and others within 10 feet, extra Charisma modifier dmg per attack, never being charmed or even increased speed by 10 feet and to others who start within 5 ft of you, etc. To me Vengeance has some decent spells (mainly Misty Step, Haste as long as you don't lose concentration, Dimension Door but thats higher lvls not everyone plays), and its Channel Divinity. I prefer Watchers or Redemption if you want to be more supportive, Oathbreaker if dmg is your goal, Vengeance like I said has its uses but would probably be my 3rd choice overall, just my opinion.
So paladin is one of the classes in the game that can go without dark vision as it gets access to the spell dark vision which is a 2nd level none concentration spell that gives a creature within touch range 8 hours of 60ft dark vision so you can bypass that limitation when playing a dragon born, human, halfling, or even war forged
So it's just a PAM & Sentinel combo but you can move as a reaction instead of at the end of your turn. Seems kinda underwhelming unless there are tons of creatures with reach. You can do the same with fighter or another paladin subclass and be just as effective.
Does anyone know where he found the art at 2:31? I'd love to use that as a reference img for my paladin! I know i can just screen shot it, but I like knowing who the artist is!
If I'm reading polearm master right, you get an opportunity attack everytime an enemy walks I to your reach, meaning it trigger if multiple opponents try to close with you. Superb
If you really want to min max then go faction agent zentarim to get insight and deception skills. Then with your paladin you can pick up athletics and intimidation and variant human is used to pick up persuasion and then you have all the face skills with your high charisma.
im doing this with my sorlock i used eldritch blast so i knock them back with my invocation i have sentinel war caster and polearm master its pretty fun so i dont have to retreat they just get pushed back good times
Have yet to find a single person the plays Dungeons & Dragons that actually cares about Adventure League points so why do we even limit ourselves with these arbitrary rules, use the core book rules use whatever is available in a core book or supplement book and as many as you wont to make the best character you can, this one extra book rule is hilarious considering how many books they made in 3rd Edition what did we have over 50+ supplement books
It does, however polearm master allows you to opportunity attack as a reaction to anyone entering your 10ft radius. The build is very reliant on actually hitting your reaction or you’ll be left alone 20ft ahead of your party.
Joshua Locklear It kind of sounds to me like a worse version of conquer pally. It’s attempting to make a cheesy build to ward off enemies but can only really stop one effectively and it costs you quite a bit of ASI.
This trick may be incredibly dirty, but is also very situational and in no way game breaking. Besides, it's just normal that you get to shine from time to time by stopping a giant ogre dead in its tracks by your lonesome. If everyone in the party had a gimmick of their own, the games would in no way be boring.
there's more ways then one in which a paladin can comparably be as annoying as this, albeit stronger against groups. When riding a horse (which a level 4 paladin can conjure) it is able to use a lance as a 1 handed weapon, which is quite strong. Without investing anything extra in that paladin, given that outdoor combat (where mounted combat is viable) is quite rare, it is nice it's not a huge investment. Here's how that version works: you can charge in 60 ft towards the enemy, make a lance attack at 10ft range, make the horse use it's action to dash back out. Given that there's so many enemies with 5ft range, it's possible to keep kiting away. When it's not possible to outrange the opponent, whenever you charge in them when they are 20+ft away from you they have to make a dc14 str save or fall prone. if that works it still won't trigger an opportunity attack when running away. You might be fooled to think that the paladin from the video counters this, by stopping the horse and making an attack, but after that the horse can still dash 60ft without triggering an attack, except now he can charge into one of the more squishy targets of the group.
Simon Says, ask me what's more annoying than that build. It is asking you what does a Wheeler, do, have Wheels? ehhahaha! How about, questions like, Are we there yet? ehhaahah!
NO , just no . Until you have to deal with a Paladin who happens to be devoted to an ASSASSIN/THIEF type God .... No where does it say a Paladin OR Cleric is only allowable for good alignments . :)
This is interesting but i wish you would have put uour feat selection somewhere written down so i dont have to rewatch the video to get the info. Unless that was your sneaky plan for views
Most annoying build...vs a single enemy...without ranged attacks...or area of affect attacks...or reach...or ways of imposing disadvantage...or a really high armor class. This build is extremely effective in certain circumstances.
lol. Yep, but a DM needs to have their head examined for allowing it in the game. Multiclassing is optional. Going without a long rest had consequences. Thanks. I have a new video topic.
@@HowtoRPG no problemo and a dm could allow it if it is a min-maxed party or if the party is under-leveled. additionally, i mostly play on epic legacy in which crusader paladins can be immune to exhaustion.
just found this video, but there is a better build, Conquest paladin, stops them dead if they are scared of you and deals damage equals to 1/2 your level. you can scare any amount of people in 30ft of you and if they are in 10 ft of you their speed is 0, once per short rest. and once you get fear at 9th level you can now do this 3 to 5 times with short rests.
I'm not sure this build is all that annoying, my paladin I dipped into lore bard was way more annoying. A paladin taking half magic damage, with high skills and saves, with counter spell, and bardic inspire/harsh words, and vicious mockery is by far more annoying.
Sounds very good, but respectfully I would avoid 8 in Wis (and even in Int) if I can help it. Key reasons being that first while RP-wise I can justify low Int on a "rookie", that rookie still has some experience, and just can't not have 10 wis in my eyes (imho only, feel free to play however you want). Second, and that might sound superstitious, but I'd rather put 10 and think I've done everything to keep Wis at least decent than worry that I failed a Perception check/a Wis save because I was that one point short. My favorite Variant Human stat spread is (in no particular order) 16 14 14 10 10 10. While mechanically 8 Str Fighters and 8 Int Rangers can work, I refuse to allow that on either because my common sense rebels against the idea of a Fighter with 8 Str (I'd consider 10 average) as much as against the 8 Int Ranger - can't even tie his shoes properly? doesn't know the landscape? can't prioritize if left alone with little supplies in a critical situation? While many of those cases might invoke wisdom (life experience, reflexes...) or even the background (illiterate hunters with no knowledge in trigonometrics exist to this day) that's a question of personal style. That aside, an enjoyable vid.
Here's the trick to click baiting: "The annoying relentless paladin build" scares people off. "The *MOST* annoying Paladin build *EVER* " draws them in.
(jk, I have no idea tbh, just sounded funny)
Lets give it a go, Jay. I can always change it.
Not gonna lie, it worked for me...
@@Tom_Carrion same here
I know this is a late comment but yes, I was click baited by the title lol
To tick the DM off just that little bit more with this build, when you get to higher levels, try adding Warcaster into the mix so you can use Hold Monster, Banishment and Geas as a Reaction XD
HowTo: Most annoying build, don‘t ever play it.
Me: my next character..
lol
"If you`re dealing with someone clever, like a Dungeon Master..." -- made my day 🤣🤣🤣
A made days is good to have.
At Level 8, you can take the mobility feat, which increases your speed to 40' and allows you to move in to melee, attack and retreat without provoking an attack of opportunity.
Thanks for your insightful feedback.
And then with haste it’s doubled to 80 feet I think. And finally at level 20 you get a flying speed of 60 feet. With mobile that’s 70 and hasted that becomes 140 if I’m reading this correctly
That's what I did with my first campaign character lmao. Had a Vengeance Paladin Centaur that picked the mobile feat and got ahold of the Horseshoes of speed. 80ft innate movement, doubled to 160ft with haste.
Local horse man moves at INCREDIBLE HIGH SPEED
@@zach415 I got to lvl 20 with my path of vengeance. But I loved using the spell “Find greater steed” to get a Pegasus, because then it’s your magical BFF for life, with a flying speed of 90. With haste it’s 180. And if you use your action and hasted action, you have movement speed of 540. Now if I’ve done the math right, that’s about 55-60 mph. And I was dubbed by my party as the flying horse truck of vengeance.
If you tire of retreating, cast Thunderous Smite the round before. When you get your reaction attack, if your foe fails their save they are prone and can't stand up as their speed is zero. Next round, advance and use your three Halberd attacks with advantage!
I recommend that you put the numbers on the screen when you’re makin’ the video. I was listening and looking at the static screen, wishing that I had a visual representation of what you were talking about. :D
Its a live stream video not a prerecorded video.
@@HowtoRPG So what? You can also have moving pictures on a live stream. Stream an image of the character sheet or something.
@@HowtoRPG making an overlay infront of your background or displaying a character sheet isnt that difficult. Poor representation as some people are visual learners and just talking wont help the people that cant just sit and listen to a podcast of a class build
@@RandomGuyCDN there is no such thing as a visual learner
@@gayfrickinfrog7168 there is?? Lmao
The very first character I created had the feats. Sentinel, pole arm master and mobile. he was a beast
"Dear god"
"There's more"
"No"
@@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015 Cavalier Laughs
Oath of Conquest Paladin (Mobile, Pole Arm Master, Sentinel, and Cavalier) + Find Steed (Warhorse) is a Paladin that is *NOT* to be reckoned with…
so one thing I'd like to mention is that native tanks which are tanks that drive enemy attacks away from the party have a particular subclass, so the paladin gets the oath of redemption if I'm correct the barbarian gets path of ancestors, and the fighter gets cavalier plus battle master and they tend to make the best native tanks as their subclass abilities lend themselves to being one
I did this with a whip wielding Protector Aasimar, so much fun flying over enemies and punishing them
This gets cool with Vow of Enmity (advantage on attack rolls) since you will be front line and likely to have 2 attacks with adv. on your turn (level 5 paladin onwards), and 1 attack with adv. as AoO, increasing your chances to crit and stack crit smites. Things get even crazier if you took 1 level Warlock for Hexblade's Curse to expand your crit range to 19-20 rolls, but this starts to eat into your Bonus Action economy. The next feat it you make it to PAM Paladin 8 would of course be GWM (nothing new here).
After one gets to level eight with this paladin build, it's worth dipping into sorcerer or bard just for the spell slots so one can dish out more of those those sweet, sweet smites.
@sum body You'll have to forgive me as I was three sheets to the wind when I wrote that horrid post. When I sobered up I realized my mistake and being quite properly embarrassed deleted it. You're quite right of course that a single level dip would not have an effect - one would have to take multiple levels in a pure spellcaster class to have any significant effect on the number of spell slots.
I got a bit of a thought for lower levels. Halberd is not as worth it as a sheild and spear. Why. Well your not running into creatures within 10 feet of attack for one so your polearm master attack always goes through. So theres no disadvantage there, but the advantage is the +2 AC. You take less damge this way when sacrificing nothing until you get setinal. Then you change to a halberd.
Speed Demon Paladin:
6 Levels in Hunter Ranger (For Hunter’s Mark)
7 Levels in Oath of Glory Paladin (For that Living Legend Status.)
7 Levels in Fighter (Cavalier) (Dueling Fighting Style)
Mobile Feat + Polearm Master Feat + Defensive Duelist Feat
Find Greater Steed (Pegasus) + Haste Spells
Pegasus has a movement speed of 60 feet. Mobile increases that to 70 feet. I think Aura of Alacrity also increases that to 80 feet. Haste would make that 160 feet. (If not 140 feet is still fast.) Super fast, but we can go even faster. The Pegasus also has a flying speed of 90 feet. Mobile increases that to 100 feet. I think Aura of Alacrity would increase that to 110 feet. Haste makes that to 220 feet. (If not, 200 feet is still fast.) You can literally charge someone in the blink of an eye. *They truly won’t know what hit them.* Of course, the Pegasus gets fatigued after. It’s still an amazing light-speed divine smite attack. Unwavering Mark + Hunter’s Mark also greatly weaken the target for you to deal great damage in that 1 attack.
Warforged juggernaut Paladin polearm master with sentinel. 20 AC and can make two attacks and make any within melee distance stop.
The rogue might be mad if no one is actually near an enemy. Other ranged attackers might not have a problem. AC will likely be 17-18 by that level with the strength and armor proficiency with 2 handed weapons. The saves will be decent at that level with the aura of protection.
Party probably won’t like the mobility of the paladin and not being able to take advantage of the 10ft aura too.
The hunters mark seems very effective with the many attacks too.
I have a build that is similar, has less damage potential over all with the single character.
Human variant str based rogue scout with a 1 level dip in cleric. Pick the tavern brawler feat and the grappler feat. The 3rd level feature to move half speed when an enemy ends its turn within 5ft of you has no other requirements. You can grapple an creature, use it as cover to effectively get 2 AC bonus like a shield, and shank the creature to pieces with sneak attack.
I picked arcana cleric for extra cantrips to include booming blade and prestidigitation. Flavored the guy as a military vet who worked as a cook but got captured and had to survive as a POW. Found religion there and brought him through.
A cleric with heavy armor proficiency is probably a better choice for the AC boost though.
The rogue getting mad is a feature, not a bug... it annoys rogues as well as the DM!
Swashbuckler - problem solved.
Actually Elven Accuracy Vengeance Paladin will be much more annoying than Variant Human one. Triple advantage vs Bosses combined with smites is bonkers. And splash 1 level dip of Hexblade there to be SAD CHA. And after level 7 (1 Hex/6 Vengeance) finish rest of the build with either Divine Sorcerer or Lore Bard.
This is a great build, but you can’t do the whole polearm “stop them in their tracks” deal which is the point of this build.
I do adore the elven accuracy half elf vengeance paladin though, in general. I’m not sure which of these I actually like more LOL.
You want a really annoying build?
Battlemaster fighter , oath of vengeance paladin , inquisitive rogue.
Take the great weapon fighting style
Take the feats
Polearm Master
Sentinel
Great weapon master
Take the battlemaster maneuvers goading
Push
Maneuvering
Make sure you have a pike or glaive or any other heavy two handed polearm with reach.
Before a battle starts take your time to study with the battlemaster.
Then hunters mark with paladin spell.
With inquisitive rogue you gain sneak attack when not sneaking. Use the battlemaster ability to maneuver allies into flanking position. Then use goading on the enemy so they only attack you.
With the feats you have, they come within range and you get attack of opportunity. If you hit they are stunned. But you also smite and sneak attack and get hunters mark damage.
Rinse and repeat for massive amounts of damage in an attack of opportunity. And then even more in rounds of combat. Best part is, since you have reach, anything within 10 ft will get attacked with attack of opportunity and potentially takes massive damage as well.
Congratulations, you have become the ultimate defense and offense with 1 big drawback.
You are heavily reliant on prepping before the battle with melee meaning if your caught off guard by ranged, things can fall apart very quickly.
Oh and I forgot to mention. Action Surge, Oath of Enmity, and extra attacks.
Doesn't sneak attack only trigger on finesse weapons?
Useful with Compelled Duel, although read the fine print of the spell.
Simon Abbot?
@@HowtoRPG It has to be Fred - this has all the fingerprints of Mr Abbott aka "Sir Mordenkainen"
Nice video! I think I’ll use it in a super optimised dungeon crawl one shot I’m playing next week
Thanks. I hope you have fun.
How to D&D thank you mate! Keep going, maybe with more images videos would be more entertaining, but the content is excellent.
@@joaquinllamazares Thanks. I will :)
Tunnel fighter and weapons master for a pole arm like a glaive seems to be a deadly combo.
now to make a pacifist with this build, powerful characters restricted by alignment and self-made rules are my favourite. "I can't attack the little guy, he'd get seriously injured!" and then that person rolls max damage on a crit and absolutely wipes the floor with you.
If you want a op build go with warlock hexblade level 5 and divine sorcerer level 5 pick catnap as a spell and cure wounds. Congrats you can heal for 3d8 4 times per incounter and recover all of your spellslots in 2 hours :0
I don't think D&D 5E allows you to multiclass into your own class (Warlock into Warlock) to get both subclasses.
This build doesnt muilti class into the sane class its warlock into sourcerer
@@thomasburkhardt3426 Oh, sorry, I mistook divine sorcerer for celestial warlock.
Bugbear get an extra 5 foot reach. TCoE has variant starting stats 🤷♂️
My paladin with a Lance and a warhorse was pretty effective.
I believe you.
I love the hat! (Said at start of video.)
My input would be us the Tunnel fighter fighting style. Cures your multiple target issue. What I did for my polearm master fighter.
Thanks.
Is that fighting style still legal?
@@zach415 It is not. It was a UA that never got published so AL wouldn't allow it, nor would alot of tables that I know cause it breaks the action economy of the game and really overpowers 1 PC. Especially if you add on a reach weapon with sentinel.
This works well. Unless there's more than one enemy.... or they have a decent ranged attack... or they have spells... or they have a longer reach than you.... or they just dash around you... or you don't see them coming and are out of position... or you miss your opportunity attack. Not saying its a bad tactic but think you're over selling it just a tad :D
Still the most annoying and powerful Paladin build unless you multiclass into Battle master.
@@HowtoRPG Why battle master? Can you expand? :)
I would have said something like sorcerer or warlock, and then have war caster so you can throw booming blade during you AoO..
*DM: Inserts enemy with burrow/teleport...RIP backline squishies.*
Hi there , i have a question about Tower Shield. If I plant it into the ground for 3/4 cover can mobs simply walk around the shield and ignore the 3/4 cover?
Some of them, but there is no Tower Shield in Dungeons and Dragons 5E.
Just found about this video. I'll put this in practice
Anyone know what would be best to multiclass a vengeance paladin with? I'm thinking a collage of swords bard
@@JettBlackheart my wisdom is 10
My DM was like “only humans no full casters and no backstory”. Im gonna play this for sure.
So, we shouldn't do this if the other party mele includes a Rogue, correct? Because of lower opportunity for Sneak Attacks since the Paladin keeps withdrawing.
Is this ok for a Monk? Wait a Minute, why isn't this a Monk feature? They were supposed to be the hit and run tactical character.
Am I the only one who hates the Polearm Master feat? That goes for Crossbow master too. These are feats for fringe weapons that make them better than more traditional weapons that don't have equivalent feats. If you want to be the best archer, you have to use a crossbow+ mastery. If you want to be the best great weapon fighter you have to use a polearm+ mastery.
A little constructive feedback: Put some text on screen people can follow along with.
It's an edited live stream, not an edited pre-recorded video.
@@HowtoRPG So let me get this straight. You did a live stream where you discussed stuff you presumably had on paper or on a doc on your computer, edited it post stream, and at no point did you think maybe overlaying the pics in the stream with the info you're talking about OR interlacing some slides with the data would be beneficial?
@@CthulhuTheory why you so mad 😂
@@h2o_dreamz911 I have this bad habit of getting really irritated when people give bullshit answers.
Pair this with a sun soul monk to do crowd control and keep out of range
Maybe its me but I find Vengeance to be overrated. Its very good but not the best subclass in my opinion. I dunno about other people but in my campaigns, 99% of the time, if i'm upfront i'm not getting any opportunity attacks unless they are forced by a spell like Dissonant Whispers. So the amount of play i'd get out of Relentless Avenger is basically nothing. Pretty bad when other Aura's give you things like resistance against magic spells to you and others 10ft from you, increase bonus to every Initiative roll to you and others within 10 feet, extra Charisma modifier dmg per attack, never being charmed or even increased speed by 10 feet and to others who start within 5 ft of you, etc.
To me Vengeance has some decent spells (mainly Misty Step, Haste as long as you don't lose concentration, Dimension Door but thats higher lvls not everyone plays), and its Channel Divinity. I prefer Watchers or Redemption if you want to be more supportive, Oathbreaker if dmg is your goal, Vengeance like I said has its uses but would probably be my 3rd choice overall, just my opinion.
yeah, as a dm always surpress and deny niche marshall character builds and meta game as much as possible.
If you can do a hybrid class can you use the monk "catch missiles ability and have grandweapons weapons master at some point?
So paladin is one of the classes in the game that can go without dark vision as it gets access to the spell dark vision which is a 2nd level none concentration spell that gives a creature within touch range 8 hours of 60ft dark vision so you can bypass that limitation when playing a dragon born, human, halfling, or even war forged
Teifling Paladins gets darkvision, a cantrip and resistance to fire, so you burn most your spell slots on OP Smites 👍
I wouldn't call kiting a "bizarre" tactic.
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Indeed, although I'm more familiar with the horse and lance version.
So it's just a PAM & Sentinel combo but you can move as a reaction instead of at the end of your turn. Seems kinda underwhelming unless there are tons of creatures with reach. You can do the same with fighter or another paladin subclass and be just as effective.
Chance thinks whoever thought of this build is a genius!
lol. That would be chance ;)
Uzualu and arc from dnd crusaders with sargon.
So what do you do if the enemies have ranged attacks, or just simply ignore you and go around to hit the back line instead.
Pull out your bow and use cover. Help the back line before they die.
Tell the Wizard to learn to tank.
Does anyone know where he found the art at 2:31? I'd love to use that as a reference img for my paladin! I know i can just screen shot it, but I like knowing who the artist is!
Magic the Gathering.
@@HowtoRPG thanks! Do you remember the card name?
@@normaleverydaygoldfish748 No. Check the How to D&D Facebook group for a picture of it.
That MtG card is Silumgar Assassin
Bugbear (5ft Extra reach and surprise attack) Paladin with Polearm Master and Sentinal
I have a goblin character and he has the disengage feat/ability idk I'm a bot at dnd and I just juke all attacks lol
If I'm reading polearm master right, you get an opportunity attack everytime an enemy walks I to your reach, meaning it trigger if multiple opponents try to close with you. Superb
Opportunity attacks take a reaction. Which you only have one of per round so you are going to be doing one attack at best.
Is there a background good to pick for this?
If you really want to min max then go faction agent zentarim to get insight and deception skills. Then with your paladin you can pick up athletics and intimidation and variant human is used to pick up persuasion and then you have all the face skills with your high charisma.
im doing this with my sorlock i used eldritch blast so i knock them back with my invocation i have sentinel war caster and polearm master its pretty fun so i dont have to retreat they just get pushed back good times
I played with a similar build, even though without cheesing with sentinel, I preferred to get resilient in constitution.
What do I do if I can't use human varient race
Have yet to find a single person the plays Dungeons & Dragons that actually cares about Adventure League points so why do we even limit ourselves with these arbitrary rules, use the core book rules use whatever is available in a core book or supplement book and as many as you wont to make the best character you can, this one extra book rule is hilarious considering how many books they made in 3rd Edition what did we have over 50+ supplement books
I thought that sentinel only stopped the enemys movement if sentinel was used as a reaction not just for any attack?
It does, however polearm master allows you to opportunity attack as a reaction to anyone entering your 10ft radius. The build is very reliant on actually hitting your reaction or you’ll be left alone 20ft ahead of your party.
@@nerf7674 yeah I guess if there's more than one enemy it doesn't work too well, only one reaction
Joshua Locklear It kind of sounds to me like a worse version of conquer pally. It’s attempting to make a cheesy build to ward off enemies but can only really stop one effectively and it costs you quite a bit of ASI.
Joshua Locklear Avenger was never emant to hold off the minion, they meant to beef against a dragon, that's literally the purpose of that subclass
This trick may be incredibly dirty, but is also very situational and in no way game breaking. Besides, it's just normal that you get to shine from time to time by stopping a giant ogre dead in its tracks by your lonesome. If everyone in the party had a gimmick of their own, the games would in no way be boring.
The build does not need to rely on gimmick.
Use Devoine Smoit! Just kidding nice video
Thanks.
9:54 what’s that huge mini?
It's a Rune Giant.
So Like a Pike wall... A real tactic used in human history...
there's more ways then one in which a paladin can comparably be as annoying as this, albeit stronger against groups. When riding a horse (which a level 4 paladin can conjure) it is able to use a lance as a 1 handed weapon, which is quite strong. Without investing anything extra in that paladin, given that outdoor combat (where mounted combat is viable) is quite rare, it is nice it's not a huge investment. Here's how that version works: you can charge in 60 ft towards the enemy, make a lance attack at 10ft range, make the horse use it's action to dash back out. Given that there's so many enemies with 5ft range, it's possible to keep kiting away. When it's not possible to outrange the opponent, whenever you charge in them when they are 20+ft away from you they have to make a dc14 str save or fall prone. if that works it still won't trigger an opportunity attack when running away. You might be fooled to think that the paladin from the video counters this, by stopping the horse and making an attack, but after that the horse can still dash 60ft without triggering an attack, except now he can charge into one of the more squishy targets of the group.
I have a paladin character, and my stats at lvl. 1 are
Str. 18
Con. 20
Dex. 18
Int. 14
Wis. 9
Cha. 18
Nice rolls.
Simon Says, ask me what's more annoying than that build. It is asking you what does a Wheeler, do, have Wheels? ehhahaha! How about, questions like, Are we there yet? ehhaahah!
i just dont get it why the high Charisma???
Is there a Character Sheet for this?
(Ranged) oh look haste with double dash.
Why does the time of the vid say 25 minutes.....
It is an error that TH-cam has never fixed. It is very frustrating, because I have a lot of videos that say they are longer then they really are.
NO , just no . Until you have to deal with a Paladin who happens to be devoted to an ASSASSIN/THIEF type God .... No where does it say a Paladin OR Cleric is only allowable for good alignments . :)
This is interesting but i wish you would have put uour feat selection somewhere written down so i dont have to rewatch the video to get the info. Unless that was your sneaky plan for views
Not really, but if you rewatch it I am fine with that.
if you rolled 18 on STR dex CON and CHA how would you build it?
Going pure paladin your Cha is less important than your Str so I would put the 18 in Str
What if you use tunnel fighter
90,000 links in the des and none of them show the original build lmao WHY?????
Seriously? The build is so simple.
Thank you!
No problem.
I hate 5e for classes like this. All my
Irl players make different broken stuff
I can understand why.
My brother let me join in on his campaign that he’s the dm in and I’m a paladin and they are at level 7 rn
Most annoying build...vs a single enemy...without ranged attacks...or area of affect attacks...or reach...or ways of imposing disadvantage...or a really high armor class. This build is extremely effective in certain circumstances.
doesn't an ogre have 10' att? so it wouldn't trigger AoO right?
Nope they don't, bigger giants do though.
Background?
Are you a New Zealander?
Yes.
Yis?
coffeelock paladin is more annoying
lol. Yep, but a DM needs to have their head examined for allowing it in the game. Multiclassing is optional. Going without a long rest had consequences. Thanks. I have a new video topic.
@@HowtoRPG no problemo and a dm could allow it if it is a min-maxed party or if the party is under-leveled. additionally, i mostly play on epic legacy in which crusader paladins can be immune to exhaustion.
Multiclass warlock and you might be able to get a patron that can offer you serpentine reaction.
OoO Wow.OK.Yeah. I think thts very strong.
This is the character that made me quit DMing 5e permanently.
That I can believe.
Tunnel Fighter, you're welcome.
How do I make a lightning paladin
Use lightning
Heat Metal.
just found this video, but there is a better build, Conquest paladin, stops them dead if they are scared of you and deals damage equals to 1/2 your level. you can scare any amount of people in 30ft of you and if they are in 10 ft of you their speed is 0, once per short rest. and once you get fear at 9th level you can now do this 3 to 5 times with short rests.
I'm not sure this build is all that annoying, my paladin I dipped into lore bard was way more annoying. A paladin taking half magic damage, with high skills and saves, with counter spell, and bardic inspire/harsh words, and vicious mockery is by far more annoying.
There are video editing softwares....
I am aware. You should feel free to use them.....
There is something like 'being grateful'
i still prefer polearm with the feat that lets you use a spell for opp attacks. less boring and more interesting versatile options.
bear barb does it better
What is unusual about this? This is a standard tactic.
with wisdom so low you will suffer HARD from charm and other spells not sure how powerful you're going to be when you fail so many saves
Luckily you add your CHA bonus to all your saves at level 6, *and* you’re proficient in WIS saves.
@@krunchyfrogg yeah but most games I play in you start maybe if your lucky lvl 3
Sounds very good, but respectfully I would avoid 8 in Wis (and even in Int) if I can help it. Key reasons being that first while RP-wise I can justify low Int on a "rookie", that rookie still has some experience, and just can't not have 10 wis in my eyes (imho only, feel free to play however you want). Second, and that might sound superstitious, but I'd rather put 10 and think I've done everything to keep Wis at least decent than worry that I failed a Perception check/a Wis save because I was that one point short. My favorite Variant Human stat spread is (in no particular order) 16 14 14 10 10 10. While mechanically 8 Str Fighters and 8 Int Rangers can work, I refuse to allow that on either because my common sense rebels against the idea of a Fighter with 8 Str (I'd consider 10 average) as much as against the 8 Int Ranger - can't even tie his shoes properly? doesn't know the landscape? can't prioritize if left alone with little supplies in a critical situation? While many of those cases might invoke wisdom (life experience, reflexes...) or even the background (illiterate hunters with no knowledge in trigonometrics exist to this day) that's a question of personal style. That aside, an enjoyable vid.
The only thing that's annoying here is listening to you try to fumble your way through this video
How to be lack luster more like it
I am not sure what you mean.