Clay Comparison: Polymer vs Cold Porcelain
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I compare the difference between homemade cold porcelain to a few different kinds of polymer clay- Premo, Fimo and Sculpey.
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Something to mention is CP clay when mixed properly can have a near glass like finish when dried and is significantly easier to smooth than sculpey for certain projects. Sculpey tends to need oil or alcohol for smoothing and it pick up finger prints fairly easily. CP on the other hand is water and can be smoothed by hand and then self levels. The finish I've gotten on some projects is so ridiculously good its hard to believe its a homemade clay.
Could you share your recipe for homemade CP please
Thank you for reassuring me on this- I have decuided to make my own porcelain and stop using all toxic materials.
@@rhythmic_seed Yes! Please share your recipe!
@@rhythmic_seed I see what you did there
For all those young crafters having trouble with hard, crumbly clay. You can use baby oil. It doesn't effect the clay what so ever when baking plus it helps soften the clay. Works better and A LOT CHEAPER from clay softer. ;)
yes, add a couple drops of oil...also pressure helps bring crumbling clay together. Just press down hard with a clean glass bottle.
Or, you could just buy clay conditioner from sculpey.
@@heatherrowles2580 that is what she was saying. Use oil instead because it is cheaper
Thanks for the playing card trick, great idea!
You're welcome! :)
Victoria Anne popsicle sticks are easier
Rubber bands work really well too and don't slide around like cards or Popsicle sticks.
No Thanks Forgive me if i am wrong or if there is a special technic that corrects this issue, but wouldnt it be a bit hard to get and/or keep an even thickness with using rubber bands? i truly want to know, its not a question asked in doubt i swear. thank you:)
THE CARD TECHNIQUE IS AMAZING! THANK YOU!
I have extensively used both home made cold porcelain clay (many different recipes including obviously the most popular ones) and polymer clay. Polymer clay out performs cold porcelain 3x over. I’ve never had my polymer clay turn out with those weird bubbles or marks yours have. You got a bad batch or did something wrong. I highly recommend you buy “super sculpey” it’s a flesh tone and is more soft like bubblegum when kneaded and warmed and is most similar to cold porcelain so you are likely to like it more. It’s also much harder and durable. I personally prefer super sculpey medium which is much harder and I suspect you would not like :)
This video was exactly what I needed! I was thinking about making some DIY jewelry with clay and I didn't know which one would be better. Now, I think this cold porcelain will do just fine!
Thank you! It's sooo helpful to know the pros & cons - beforehand. You'd make an awesome elementary school art teacher and summer camp art instructor.
Thanks!! ❤️
The fastest way to condition polymer clay, sit on it. When I buy it I sit on the packs on the way home in the car. It is ready the minute I get home. If I am already at home I sit on them for a few minutes before I start, also never put in a window of the car. I had a clay face turn into a burn victim.
Lori Strout 😂😂😂😂
Why did this make me laugh soo much?!.. ahahah😂😂
That's exactly what I do.
Use a heating pad to soften it up.
Lori Strout, I don’t understand the burn victim theory lol. If anything, Clay gets much softer in the sun. I’ve done tons of craft shows in hot summers and my creations get really soft so I have to put a bunch of ice packs hidden under my items to prevent them from getting too soft.
That's how translucent polymer clay is. It has inclusions after baking when it's thick. It's meant for very thin sheets
I'm sorry... This comment is unrelated to the content, but I HAVE to say it... I really really REEEEEEAAAALLY like the way your hair and lipstick are just so perfectly in sync with each other! And as if that weren't satisfying enough, your color clash with your shirt, just makes it run together that much smoother... But the warm/cool matchup with your skin, I don't react like this... Like ever... But this is such a visually appealing and almost brain-gasmic setup in this video I-just-you... Thank you. Just, "Thank you."
(My thanks to whoever picked/applied your hair treatment, too!)
I also like the playing card idea. To help avoid cracks in the polymer clay don't expose it to room temperature immediately. Leave it in the oven and open the oven door in stages so that the clay cools down slowly.
This was so helpful! I love sculpey but I think I will try cold porcelain too :)
+Jovana Djokovic Yay, I'm happy to see that it was helpful to you! :) Cold porcelain is definitely my favorite at the moment, but sculpey has a special place in my heart too~
chezlin sculpey is a begginers clay and shouldn't be considered when making a worth while sculpture.
This was the best video EVER on this. Thank you so much for being clear precise, & showing great comparisons
premo is the best clay, I use it all the time u should always check the firmness it should have a little give. if not it's not a fresh pack of clay
Seasonal Frostbite, Great info/advice! Thank you darlin'! 🤗😁
Also, if it is too crumbly, then adding a little vegetable oil will soften it up.
Premo needs a lot more conditioning than Sculpey. And Fimo needs more than Sculpay as well. The easiest way for me to condition is to roll in snakes, flatten with a roller, form a ball, and then repeat the process until smooth.
Pasta Machine is the best method to condition Premo though.
Cracking may occur when Polymer Clay hasn't been conditioned well enough ;)
Bubbles may occur more when not well conditioned or when two pieces have been put together with air trapped in them.
Baking may have something to do with cracking as well.
I see! Thanks for the info and tips! :)
Also, try the no-cook version of cold porcelain! It does not shrink as much! 😊
+Alyssa Kenny Huh, interesting! I would have thought that the cooked version would shrink less, since by cooking it you remove a lot of the excess moisture, which is what causes the clay to shrink when it dries in the first place. I'll have to make some no-cook cold porcelain and compare it, that sounds like a fun experiment! :)
Hi could u also please do a video comparison between cooked cold porcelain n non cooked cold porcelain.. Please.
I love your channel it's awesome.
I work with polymer clay and i think you should roll it, fold it back, roll it, fold it back and again and again at least five times. This process eliminates air bubbles. Also after baking you have to put the polymer into ice watter. After that is polymer clay more transluscent.
I don't know if you did this, because my english is not so good and sometimes i miss something. ;-)
Btw i use PREMO and i've never had such a problem with it, my premo is soft and smooth. That's weird.
+Jana Krapfova Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying my videos :D
Thanks for the polymer clay tips. I usually just knead it with my fingers for a while to try to get the air bubbles out, but I should probably fold it over and roll it a few times like you're suggesting :)
I never put my stuff in water after I just let it.. and I dont think you can over cook it as long as the temp is not too high becssue some time i'll make stuff that i need to be hard so i can keep handling without it loosing it shape..
+chezlin The process jana is talking about its called wedging, it a necessary step for most if not all types of clay.
Jana Krapfova how to make polymer clay
To be honest... I have no idea how to make polymer clay :)
I really want to get into crafting with clay. This was really helpful or seeing a few options. I've also been really curious about cold porcelain. Thank you!
+Manda Alvarado You're welcome, I'm glad this video was helpful! :)
Great video Thanks! Is cold porcelain solid enough for jewelry making? Does it break easily?
Best comparison I’ve seen👍🏼
Love the kitty helper in the video!!!! TFS! I need all the clay help I can get.
Haha, thanks! :)
Can't get enough of your cat
Thanks for the information! Love your fur boss in the background supervising! LOL
I NEVER knew polymer clay was flexible!!! Wow, very informative!!
Thank you for doing a comparison!!
+Ruelen Sarion You're welcome! I hope it was helpful! :)
this heeeeeeelpssss a loooooootttt.... thaaaaank youu so muchhhh!
Yay, I'm glad it was helpful!! :D
Love your scientific approach. This really helps! Thanks!
the translucent polymer clays usually tend to "moon". Because polymer clays are plastic based, when the oil from your fingers mix into the clay, it leaves off the oil marks after baking. But because cold porcelain is water based, the water would "reflect" the oils, so it can't moon in the clay.
I have never used cold porcelain but always used polymer and I use a lot of transparent polymer and colour it after with pastels or eyeshadow and I have never seen it look like that after it is baked. Not sure how and why it came to look like that. It usually comes out very smooth and with a translucent like alabaster.
Finding it hard to believe you have tried many brands and used many times and have never heard of, or come across “mooning”. Sorry, but I think you’re full of it.
@@Rezd-Out Ok troll ;)
You got a bad batch of Premo. Premo is normally very soft.
I totally agree. My favorite is definitely Kato Clay, but Sculpey although the softest, will break so easily. Your project will be destroyed unless you’re just making beads and the color after baking is terrible, not true, darker and just plain icky. It’s great for kids though. For the best details and bright true colors, it’s got to be Kato or Fimo, but if you have arthritis like me or painful hands, forget Fimo. These are predominately not translucent clays unless you buy the translucent blocks. The colors are gorgeous after baking. I have my hubby sit on all brands of poly clay to heat them up but Fimo is still hard and terribly crumbly after! So it depends on cost, the ability to work with the Clay and if you want already colored blocks (polymer clay) or translucent (cold porcelain). Try Fimo Soft or Fimo Kids and you might be pleasantly surprised 😉🙌🏻💕 Thank You for your videos! I hope my hands and I love cold porcelain!
before buying polymer clay you should pinch it to see how soft it is if its not soft get a different batch
Yeah, that's a good tip :) Thanks!
I always do that
Not only this but also for Premo, Sculpey, and Craftsmart, you can check the date the clay was made. There is a series of numbers printed on the side of package that tells you the date.
You should never use oil or acrylic paints to color polymer clay. I'm curious who is recommending that? Pastels, alcohol ink and Micah powders work best in my experience, and most artists I follow would agree. The plastics and polymers contained in each can potentially causes a chemical reaction with the polymers, and by extension brittleness, inconsistencies, and all sorts of unwanted effects.
Oh and Sculpey Premo is the most quality of the 3 brands you had here. The softer and easier the clay is to knead, typically the more brittle it is after breaking. I did whenever I first started out, but now I would never use sculpey 3. But to each their own!
That was so helpful! Thank you so much! I just subscribed and I look forward to watching many more of your videos.
Do you have a tutorial for the cold porcelain?
You give a very good demonstration.
Cold porcelain is more eco-friendly 🌿
I never knew about cold porcelain until today! :O So cool. I can't wait to try working with it ^.^
What is a good SEALER for the Cold Porcelian Clay? (( It is my favorite to work with ))
I would like to know this as well :)
Oil paint! Pleeeeeease wear gloves! Oil paint is not good for you and can absorb into the skin.
Yeah, I should probably wear gloves way more often then I do. Thanks for the concern, I'll try to do that more often!
Actually no. Some colors may be, because of the pigment/s used, but oil paints are actually safer for skin than acrylics.
Oil paint is normally toxic. This brand happens to not be, but viewers should know that.
They should also know that it is ABSOLUTELY UNSAFE to put oil paint in the oven. I can't even...
Water-based for polymer clay works best, and that goes for sealer as well. You're not gonna get steam cracks.
It's not the brand, it's the pigments in the paints. Some of the pigments are toxic, like cadmium, pthalocyanide, and lead are normal pigments in oil paints. Even though they are known toxins, they are still used, because they have different qualities that many artists prefer over non toxic options. Better to know and be informed! I am not risk averse, but if you're using paints a lot heavy metal toxicity is not something you want to mess with. I thought that using gloves would be annoying, but I actually prefer painting with them, because it gives a bit of grip to the brush! They do surgery with gloves on, so if they can do heart surgery with gloves on, you can craft with them 😉
Hi Good video for my big confusion, when i was confused why to make cold Porcelain clay. your video helped me. Big thanks sisy.
You are the answer of all of my diy questions thank you ❤👑
thanks! straightforward and super helpful!
Itaa Cesar this is not straightforward... it's a bias video because she knows nothing about polymer clay. and what she had with the premo was a bad batch. it's basically the best to use and polymer clay is wonderful! please do more research before making up your mind.
The bubbles are probably from over baking, because I've only ever had that happen with thin segments of complex pieces that also have thicker segments which necessitate longer baking times. You can work around this problem by constructing armatures to build the clay onto, keeping the thickness more even overall. Aluminum foil crumpled into a basic form works great for this, but wire and even wood like dowels or popsicle sticks will work, too. The curing temps for polymer clays are not high enough that the wood will burn.
Thanks for the tips! I've done the aluminum foil and wire armature before with great results :)
I bought some clay that was sold as cold porcelain but it doesn't dry translucent but white - does this mean it's not cold porcelain? Polymer clay seems to have a few advantages over the cold porcelain - dries hardened - Premo, Cernit and Femo are good to work with. I've worked with them for years.
Thank you for doing this comparison
Nice comparison video, i learnt a lot.
Ps: Your eyebrows are so lovely! And you are so pretty!
Love the video! I believe the bubbly look is from the clay not being conditioned enough. Polymer clay takes quite a bit of time to get conditioned. Even the softer ones. I have "hot hands" which makes it a tiny bit easier to work. That is what I liked about the cold porcelain. It was pretty nice and smooth right out if the bag. I enjoyed this comparison video very much !
+Dacey Miller Thanks! I was sure I conditioned the Sculpey and Fimo enough, but maybe not! I'll have to do some more tests, hehe :) I'm glad you liked this video! :D
Love your video. Will you try to make flowers about 2" or so. Lily, roses, peony. I want to make a couple of lilies and roses and it would be wonderful to see it done. I'm going to be using the cold porcelain clay. Thank you so much.
Also one more thing the cp is very good to work with u should try doing a Video on cornstarch dough it's really good
+Mikalah Stewart I'll look into that, thanks for the suggestion! :)
I haven't worked with polymer clay in almost 10 years and that's mostly because every package I bought was HELL to work with. SUPER hard and I could never seem to condition them without ages of ridiculous effort. I'd even bought a "conditioning clay" that was supposed to mix in and help condition but not discolor sculpey clay yet it would never mix in and began to discolor my black and white clays. lol The only way I got any of my clays to soften up enough to roll them out was to literally beat the SHIZZ out of them inside their packaging with a meat tenderizer mallet. Even then I had to push down like a mad woman to get em to roll flat. I can't wait to try working with Cold Porcelain it sounds like a dream!
Wow, that sounds horrible! I usually don't have a problem with Sculpey, I don't know what was up with that Premo stuff... some people have suggested that I got a bad batch, but who knows!
chezlin It was pretty bad and makes me wonder if my batch was bad or old. Ah well. I like the idea of Cold Porcelain so much better.. I prefer mixing my own colors than needing to buy multiple packs. It doesn't help that the clay selections at my local art stores are slim too. x)
my school art teacher taught us that thing you did with the playing cards except he used wood planks or something cut small so he could use them with the younger children. When you used the playing cards I remembered that i didnt need to go out and buy wood planks for the project i was doing. Thanks for the great idea!
+Hannah K Cool! It's really a great technique for getting a consistent thickness for the clay. Using cards is particularly nice because you can increase or decrease the thickness really, really easily by just adding or removing cards :)
Very informative. Just what I was looking for. Thanks.
+Denise Magnet You're welcome! I'm glad you found the video helpful :D
Sculpey/polymer clay, put it under a heating pad, it will soften it up. It is a soft plastic is what it is and hard as a rock until heat from the hands or heating pad better, is applies.
If Sculpey gets crumbly, there is a special oil for it to fix that problem. My friend that does professional stuff with it says the Premo is the best, I believe.
You can bake it also but more like paper mache clay at a low temperature. I used the rules from the paper mache clay website and omg its awesome and not flammable (not easily anyway) the recipe I used was Creative Cats recipe. Oil I used was baby oil since I used vinegar for my anti mold etc ingredient. She says there are options but thats the way I did it and it was awesome. Not sure if baking it helped it become fire resistant or it just was naturally that way anyway? No bubbles or cracks if low for short times. I tested a batch that lasted 8 months maybe longer but thats when I found it and used it. Kept mine in a ziplock bag with the air sucked out. The baby oil neutralized vinegar sent smelled quite pleasant.
Out of all the Sculpey clays, Premo is my favourite and compares the most to Fimo (my absolute favourite). Cold porcelain is fun to work with and does have a great smooth, translucent finish. But it doesn't sculpt details as well as polymer clay.
Fimo is hard work premo is great but I do love Cold porcelain best I’ve just made a huge batch to make flowers. There is another one called Artista soft but it doesn’t have that long a shelf life but great to use either way it’s all fun with the exception of Fimo.
Can't wait to make and create!
Fantastic video. Very educational. I got a quick question though: are all sorts air-dry clay cold porcelain, or is cold porcelain really just one specific type of clay? Thank you. 🙂
Great video and with information that helped and you have a beautiful cat and just like my cat Hunter x
great video...which one was the easiest to break?a comparison of the hardness of the material
Thanks. That was very informational and helpful.
+Michelle Trahan Usher You're welcome! :) Thanks for checking it out!
Fyi. Im a semi pro sculptor, and if you're making things you can paint, or mold and cast out of plastic, super sculpey firm is one of the BEST Clays on the market. Bar none. The stuff is incredible. If you're mixing clays for colors and keeping the objects as clay 100%, id go with translusent Kato Clay. Its incredibly strong, it can be pigmented any color if i remember correctly. Though its expensive, and smells terrible. But ive even used it before along with sculpey firm grey cause its so strong. But sculpey firm grey is very easy to work with. There is a guy who makes life sized silicone figures that are incredible, and he ONLY uses super sculpey for the sculpts. It can be done, its reusable infinately if you dont bake it, just mix some patrolium jelly with it if it drys out.
Thanks, this is so helpful!! I will try it
Was wondering how this works with making flowers. What type of paint would you use to make these for the top of a cake for instance? Obviously it would have to be non toxic but could you use a cake coloring base to get the same effect? Thanks in advance
subscribed because of the cat at the end... great video btw :)
Excellent presentation! I loved your video, is very helpful as I am knew to this type of craft. Thank you !!
Thank you! And you're welcome :)
Great video! Thank you for all the helpful information!
Thank you, and you're welcome!
Thank you, good information and a useful video.
I love your kitty!!!
Excellent video! Thanks!
may I ask if cold porcelain clay is sturdy? for small decors?
Could you do a comparison video using molds with the same types of clay you used in your video? I'm having issues using homemade porcelain in molds and would like to know what you think.
Chezlin i too bought the same exact Preom Clay and yup it was horrid same as Ur's and no it's not supposed to be that hard and crumbly, we both got a bunk pack, I made fimo, and super Sculpey my go-to Sculpey 3 is juz to soft for fine details and sticky and them blotches is just plaque, but want it to hear and watch what you had to say bout this cold porcelain my first time I hear of this
fimo and premo and used in professional jewelry. def needs some softener. i used petroleum jelly. i have softener as well.
Think you got a bad batch of premo... there are numbers on it that will tell you when it was made and the softer might have helped. Not to much a fan of fimo myself. When it's fresh and workable it's soft but not to soft that's what brother me with sculpt 3 just to soft.
Thank you I love your videos , I do have one question, I made the cold porcelain clay as you have shown .But I have notice that some of the items seem to twist and turn not staying flat ,no matter what thickness I do. How can I stop that from happening ?
Please can anyone help?
Keep up your videos they are truly helpful.......thanks
I've had success with making sure it doesn't dry out too quickly (if one side dries out quicker than it shrinks and warps that side, and can cause cracks). Just make sure it's not sitting in a really drafty part of your house. And I like to periodically flip the piece around so the part that's in contact with the table can get some air too so it hopefully helps it dry out at the same rate all over.
Sculpey has an Air Dry Porcelain now and I dunno if it's an extremely new product or just hard to find but I cannot for the life of me find any videos on it, though I imagine it must be a bit like the cold porcelain seen here…
Love your black kitty!
+Heather Imhoff :D He is quite the cutie!
Hi there loved your video,,, can you tell me,,, please,, what is the best waterproof durable clay to use,,, I want to make outdoor ornaments, and also what clay can stick to wood or what glue can i use to make that happen, thank you in advance
I'm not really a big expert on clay or anything, but polymer clay would probably work for what you want. As for glue, I would suggest 2 part epoxy or E6000. You can also use the website " thistothat.com/ " to figure out other kinds of glue you can use. :)
I used cold porcelain once, and because I've always used polymer clay, the porcelain was TOO easy to mold making it hard to make things with it.but I have friends who only use porcelain, so it's definitely just your preference.
Good to know. Thanks 🐞
Have you tried toner on your hands for removing the color?
for the cold porcelain shrinkage .. when prepare it do not cook it or microwave just use your hand .. did you try it ?
Yeah, I made some! It works great!
I liked your comparison ... well done ... regards
Hats off to you, ur vids and ur voice... 😘😘😘
+Muning Maceda haha, thanks!
Where can we buy cold porcelain and what brand do you recommend? Thanks, and great tutorial. Loly
you may have either over baked or under baked, or not conditioned the clay enough, that may be a reason for the cracks and bubbles. sometimes it also depends on the surface you're baking on.
+kawaiipetal Oh interesting, I've never heard that the baking surface can effect it, thanks for letting me know! :)
+chezlin I used to bake my stuff on used pie pans, and they would burn. but then I bought a Pyrex casserole dish and started baking them on that, and have had beautiful results. I just line the bottom of the dish with parchment paper, so the clay doesn't stick to the glass.
Thanks for the comparison work- I have worked with Sculpey and like it quite a bit. I have seen a vid of Sculpey and Fimo being mixed and smoothed by putting it through a pasta machine. Which of course also makes it a consistent thickness. I haven't done this yet! This vid answered my questions about the various products very well. One question is how long does the cold porcelain take to dry thoroughly?
+Laura Pope Thank you! I'm glad you found this video helpful :) It depends on how thick the piece is, of course... I've found that pieces around 1/2inch thick take about 24 hours.
Is air dry polymer clay same as cold porcelain?
Hi which types of clay would you use for making diffusing jewellery?
Can we make dolls with this clay and is it possible to make smooth dolls like we make with polymer clay? Can this be baked like polymer clay? Actually I use polymer clay to sclupt but to tell you the truth I am looking for an alternative. So please tell me about this clay. I have worked with other clays but not with this. What colours do you use to give it colours? Can Acrylic colours be used
very informative. thank you
+queenmiller I'm glad you found my video useful, thanks for checking it out! :)
thank you 😊
DISCULPE': CONCLUSIÓN : NO SÉ INGLÉS. CUÁL ES LA MEJOR ???.
No dijo cuál. Dijo que depende para que la vas a usar. Básicamente dijo:
*Porcelana Fría:*
- Más fácil de usar (Está más suave)
- Se puede mezclar con casi cualquier pintura
- Se hace más oscura después que se seca
- No se ocupa meter en el horno
- Tienes tiempo limitado para usarla (porque se seca al aire libre)
- Se encoge 10%
*Polymer clay:*
- Hay muchas marcas para escoger
- Están disponibles en muchos colores
- Se puede pintar en cualquier color que quieras (con pintura de aceite)
- Tienes más tiempo para trabajar con ella porque no se seca al aire libre
- No se encoge después que la metes al horno
@@r.r.r9300 Muchísimas Graciaa por su Gentileza al responder mi inquietud.
BENDICIONES !!!.
Thanks Chezlin.
You got an old batch on that Primo the older it is the more crumbly it is. If you run it through a pasta machine it's much easier to deal with.
pretty sure you got an old bar of Primo. Polymer Clay can take a lot of time reconstituting. A pasta machine is best for this. Also you can add a few drops of baby oil to help soften it.
I think the mottling of color is the result of the unconditioned clay. Oil paints for intrinsic coloring need to be well mixed with the clay to get it consistent
This was such a helpful video.
+I Bleed Pink I'm glad it was helpful! Thanks for checking it out :D
+chezlin This is Great, the only thing missing that I wanted to know is whether the polymer clays have any toxins or nasty crap in them? I know some paints and pastels do such as lead or cadmium and sometimes even mercury. Something I want to avoid.
I don't think it's toxic, I mean, you shouldn't eat it or anything, but working with it with your hands should be fine. Here's a link where you can read up on it more: www.polymerclaycentral.com/cyclopedia/pc_safety_th.html
Thanks, I did do a google search before buying the clay and the clay I bought says its non toxic so that's good.