It's always best to replace the worn rollers to extend the life of the new chain rails.. Like never put old lifters on a new camshaft.. different strokes for different folks..😎👌
I would say Frank has done this before. I helped replace one on a D-7 Cat in 1963 at the age of 16. I learned to drive that old cable lift Cat and and cleared a lot of ground in the summer of 63.
Great video. Skid steer or tractor is a must. Sand is a killer on track machines. Working in dirt or rock , they’ll last a lot longer. I love heavy metal and it’s all heavy on that rascal.
Hey Josh thank you for the video I enjoy it and putting that track on probably took you guys oh I would say three hours and so much great information that you taught everyone on TH-cam now thanks again
I know that's heavy dangerous work and you guys did a fine job of getting it replaced. I learned a good deal from this video and I'm glad everyone got through it without damage or injury.
I go to the gym 5 days a week and I don’t care who you are…you’re not picking that track up. Not sure why you’re being sarcastic and rude about something you clearly don’t have a clue about. What’s the motivation to try and insult a perfect stranger? You’re just making yourself look like a fool. Kindness goes a long way buddy. Try it sometime, I promise it won’t hurt
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer My apologies good sir. I didn't think my comment was that harsh and certainly not meant to be an insult. I work with a crew that communicates via disparaging remarks and no one gets hurt by them . . . at least I don't think so. I'll have to ask around. I'll delete my previous comment. Keep up the swell work.
Wether the track assembly is ( Berko, ITP or CAT) the bolts have a required torque. Bolts are installed lubricated with antiseeze compound not locktite and are tightened using a cross pattern sequence. The paint on the underside of pad must be removed as well as the mating surface on top of rail so it will not work loose . It takes a lot of fight out of it to reconnection of master link to put it over front idler so idler will hold it straight for you.
I always connected the track near the bottom of the front idler using a pin that gets driven into the bushing. Pulling the two halves together with straps seems like extra work. Let gravity do the work and save your back.
Back in 1977 I worked as a welder at American Hoist & Derrick, the short time they had a plant in Duluth, Mn. I could never pass the vertical or overhead welding tests so I picked parts & did other things. One of the things I helped with was strapping down a backhoe to a flatbed rail car using 1/2 or 5/8ths steel cable(can't remember which). About two or three weeks after that rail car left, heading for the West coast, our foreman stopped by to tell us we did a real good job strapping that backhoe down. He said the train was going a little too fast on a curve in the mountains and a few cars broke out of the train & rolled down the mountain. He said the backhoe stayed on the whole way down.
Thanks for the share Josh. I just changed out the tracks on my Cat 943 loader. Wish that you woulds of had this video up, back before done it. It would of been a lot of help.
Well that changed my mind so now I do not want one of those. I will settle for a picture. Man gotta have lots of good equipment just to get the tracks on and off. Great job and thanks for sharing
I've done that so many times I could have done it in my sleep...34 years as a heavy equipment mechanic. Easier with a track dozer/loader than an excavator.
It is a good memory for me because as a retired US Army veteran I have changed track on tanks and armored personnel carriers M113A2 & A3. You are correct you don't get to do that very often.
Front roller = Idler Rear sprocket = Final drive Top pulleys= Carrier rollers When working on uneven ground keep the final drive downhill, easiest way to throw a track off if you don't. 🤘
yeppers....he makes his living clearing land...I make mine filming. If he was interested in filming what he does, he could probably make each job continue to pay for years after he did the work...hmmmm get's ya thinkin huh?
We did that on a big cat excavator and it was more easier since you can lift the side up with boom and bucket. And yes 4k is a steal that track from the cat dealer is like over 13k listed before any discounts. Also, it's best to power wash down the track before work on it IMHO. Oh invest in a battery or compressor grease gun . Thatwould make it much easier pumping it back up.
Hahah me and my father put these tracks back on using Ancient Greek leverage 😂😂😂 let me tell you. We might loose our eyeball .. heck our face but we gotta pull it on somehow using the arm . Don’t have bobcat laying around
When I saw the machine with the track removed and all that dirt caked up I got to thinking of a guy with an excavator I saw some years back. Every day after work he would hose it down and clean out all the dirt and then wipe it dry to avoid water marks in the paint. Before he left for the day the machine looked like it had just been delivered from a showroom. Now it was a new machine, or at least it looked like one to me, but hey, it's an excavator. It is used to dig through the dirt every day. It WILL get banged up, it WILL get scratched and it WILL get worn. That's just the way it works with heavy machines like this. But he treated it like it was a showpiece. That was a few years ago, and seeing this I just wondered for how long he kept pampering that machine like that. I'm not laughing at him wanting to keep it clean, just at the image of him wiping it dry after washing it every day. I kind of understand what he was probably feeling. That machine was pretty expensive, and buying it new it had to hurt just a little bit knowing that every scratch or dent meant that it was loosing value. Just putting the bucket into the dirt the first time cost money. Personally I would probably be a bit obsessive until it got it's first good dent or deep scratch. After that I would be able to relax and accept that it is a tool and it will get worn with time and work, and that's just how it's supposed to work.
There are two very good reasons to remove the dirt from the tracks and carriage: 1. Remove abrasive material 2. be able to see any wear or damage. An added reason is some states or locales have rules or regulations about not transporting possible soilborne contaminants(live or chemical).
@@royreynolds108 bingo on both parts. I have a 3-4k psi pressure washer on a trailer with 300 gallon of water just for issues like the above. You can't see what you can't see. I see dump trucks with cracked leafs for example and the driver didn't know it was cracked or how long, until the dirt was washed away or something really fails.
Does Snapon make a special pipe for its wrenches, or will any old bit of pipe lying around do? Because otherwise I think they are missing a niche market here....
There is no need to remove the grease fitting. There is a relief valve that should be loosened about one turn and will let the grease out of the adjuster.
Me: Dang boys! When is Andrew Camarata going to put up a new video? TH-cam: Hey! You want to watch a new Stoney Ridge video? He's replacing a track on a dozer! Me: HECK YEAH! I LOVE STONEY RIDGE FARMER CHANNEL!
Can you also "after market" pressure clean your old track before replacing for a new one so you don't have to mud the new one, that way is not that expensive to work clean like, removing parts, grease, bolts?
My man....these tracks will live in the dirt and mud. I agree...but it wasn't my job to handle....also..we didn't wanna work in a mud hole..I agree...working on clean equipment is better for sure
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer My great friend, I was kidding with the after market pressure wash, lol but whoever has to, it'll do it great because you'll decrease competition dirt vs grease by keeping them mud free. Wow!!! Take care brother and keep producing!!!
You can recondition your old track several times. This involves rotating each pin and bush until the unworn section is aligned to engage the sprocket. To do that obviously requires a complete track dismantling in a workshop. The gripper bars can also be cut free and new bar welded in place. Major track repairs are carried out in a dedicated track press (workshop). It does save a lot of money doing it this way.
You can only turn the pins and bushings once. by the time youve worn through them on runout its time for a new undercarriage. That's how CAT designed the undercarriage to wear.
Very informative .why frank is Using the rachet on a very Tight bolts.he could use the Fix bar to loosen it ,thereafter Use the rachet when it got Soft
Have you heard of corking the the track Sir . A friend of mine worked on the California fire dozers, and told me that cleets were welded onto the track,and minimal slips while maneuvering. Obviously it was thick flat metal straps on each plate. Obviously the more the better .look into it for more track life ,until you can, if not swap it out as you did . Enjoying the video . Wear gloves next time, kind of like a Halloween costume 🤪.
Weld-ons ( that what we called the in the military ) are temp fix. The problem is the welds will break or fracture and at the worst time. If the cleats are so worn that it's smooth tracks so to speak, you should look at laying on new tracks not more metal to a worn track.
Still looks easier than changing track on a tank.
Interesting...I might have to see that! Woooo!!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Just get with the North Carolina National Guard, they have tanks.
You're right about that then 60 series or the M1 series tank is is a bitch the track on
I wonder what they compare to a system one track system on a CAT
@@ronaldziehlke9720 that can depend on tank model
Thank you for bringing this to us diy farmers it helps save big repair bills!
You bet!
Best to connect the track at the front of the idler.
Thanks for also not being afraid to throw out costs so we can understand the seriousness of the situation.
This vid is Better than the news of these days
You can tell working around Mr Frank he dont say much but you can learn alot from him! Great video Josh!
I had no idea how to put a new track on. what a neat way to go . thank you.
JOSh, that is an adventure.
IT is the same as ARMY TANKS and ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS.
THANK YOU this is a good LESSON that most people never see.
Nice video, 2:36 righty tighty lefty loosey😉, just stiring😂, great job guys💪🏻
That looked like quite the project! Thank you for sharing!
It's always best to replace the worn rollers to extend the life of the new chain rails.. Like never put old lifters on a new camshaft.. different strokes for different folks..😎👌
I would say Frank has done this before. I helped replace one on a D-7 Cat in 1963 at the age of 16. I learned to drive that old cable lift Cat and and cleared a lot of ground in the summer of 63.
I think Frank is gonna need a few cold beverages to make him smile after doing that job! Great video Josh!! Wooooooo
I honestly didn't think you were gonna get Frank to whoooo !! But it happened..lol awesome job guys thanks for sharing!!!
Great video. Skid steer or tractor is a must. Sand is a killer on track machines. Working in dirt or rock , they’ll last a lot longer.
I love heavy metal and it’s all heavy on that rascal.
Hey Josh thank you for the video I enjoy it and putting that track on probably took you guys oh I would say three hours and so much great information that you taught everyone on TH-cam now thanks again
I know that's heavy dangerous work and you guys did a fine job of getting it replaced. I learned a good deal from this video and I'm glad everyone got through it without damage or injury.
I go to the gym 5 days a week and I don’t care who you are…you’re not picking that track up. Not sure why you’re being sarcastic and rude about something you clearly don’t have a clue about. What’s the motivation to try and insult a perfect stranger? You’re just making yourself look like a fool. Kindness goes a long way buddy. Try it sometime, I promise it won’t hurt
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer My apologies good sir. I didn't think my comment was that harsh and certainly not meant to be an insult. I work with a crew that communicates via disparaging remarks and no one gets hurt by them . . . at least I don't think so. I'll have to ask around. I'll delete my previous comment. Keep up the swell work.
Wether the track assembly is ( Berko, ITP or CAT) the bolts have a required torque. Bolts are installed lubricated with antiseeze compound not locktite and are tightened using a cross pattern sequence. The paint on the underside of pad must be removed as well as the mating surface on top of rail so it will not work loose . It takes a lot of fight out of it to reconnection of master link to put it over front idler so idler will hold it straight for you.
YOU ARE CORRECT
Frank seems like a man of few words and ain't nothing wrong with that.👍🏻
Thanks Frank for showing your track install. Amazing !!!!
great video Josh. I really appreciate your content.
This is a first for me I have never seen that done before very interesting video thanks for sharing great job.
I always connected the track near the bottom of the front idler using a pin that gets driven into the bushing. Pulling the two halves together with straps seems like extra work. Let gravity do the work and save your back.
I've helped Change track on M60 Tanks and it's done about the same way, I was a Tank Mechanic in the Marines.
Awesome....my brother was a tank Mechanic in the Corp
My uncle was a tank instructor at US army tank school in Ft.Knoxx and trained both USarmy and Uncle Sam Misguided Children. ;)
Great blog Josh I've never seen that done I did not know thank you for sharing that 🇺🇲💯 WOOOOOO,!🇺🇲
Very awesome Josh thanks for sharing can't wait for the next video Sir
Back in 1977 I worked as a welder at American Hoist & Derrick, the short time they had a plant in Duluth, Mn. I could never pass the vertical or overhead welding tests so I picked parts & did other things. One of the things I helped with was strapping down a backhoe to a flatbed rail car using 1/2 or 5/8ths steel cable(can't remember which). About two or three weeks after that rail car left, heading for the West coast, our foreman stopped by to tell us we did a real good job strapping that backhoe down. He said the train was going a little too fast on a curve in the mountains and a few cars broke out of the train & rolled down the mountain. He said the backhoe stayed on the whole way down.
Thanks for the share Josh. I just changed out the tracks on my Cat 943 loader. Wish that you woulds of had this video up, back before done it. It would of been a lot of help.
Awesome Awesome video Josh man you never disappoint with your videos and content.
Great video Josh thanks so much for sharing God Bless yall stay safe🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That was great Josh!! Thanks for another lesson!👍🚜
Great vid bud very informative thx for showing and the land is looking good bud ...godbless
Always helps to have a giant on a job like this.
Great video! Good job covering all the detail
Glad you liked it!
Well that changed my mind so now I do not want one of those. I will settle for a picture. Man gotta have lots of good equipment just to get the tracks on and off. Great job and thanks for sharing
Thanks, buddy, for the awesome video handsome man.....;-)
Marty,
Always wondered how they done that. Now I know! Thanks a lot!
I've done that so many times I could have done it in my sleep...34 years as a heavy equipment mechanic. Easier with a track dozer/loader than an excavator.
You guys made an easy job look hard but you got it done, did it wrong but got it done
I'm sure if you were with us we would have done it perfect Nick lol.......this isn't an easy job dude ..please be kind
You guys make things complicated, very easy task
Great video stoney man educational love these videos pal
Wooo Frank. Team work baby - nice 👍🏻
Teamwork. One does all the work while one holds the camera.
Frank likes to tighten it up a little bit first before he unscrews it..👽👌
You guys are tired,but thanks for posting it was fun to learn something new I'll never do because ha ha I'm a girl.
Frank said put the camera down we got work to do ole son! LOL
lol...I know right. I was juggling it around for sure...no slowing down. That's a tough job but we got it knocked out quickly
It is a good memory for me because as a retired US Army veteran I have changed track on tanks and armored personnel carriers M113A2 & A3. You are correct you don't get to do that very often.
Front roller = Idler
Rear sprocket = Final drive
Top pulleys= Carrier rollers
When working on uneven ground keep the final drive downhill, easiest way to throw a track off if you don't.
🤘
Great video, man. Keep going!
Frank’s red hot lol he’s a no nonsense kind a guy. He’s the let’s get it done and I don’t care about no camera lol
yeppers....he makes his living clearing land...I make mine filming. If he was interested in filming what he does, he could probably make each job continue to pay for years after he did the work...hmmmm get's ya thinkin huh?
We did that on a big cat excavator and it was more easier since you can lift the side up with boom and bucket. And yes 4k is a steal that track from the cat dealer is like over 13k listed before any discounts.
Also, it's best to power wash down the track before work on it IMHO. Oh invest in a battery or compressor grease gun . Thatwould make it much easier pumping it back up.
Thanks Man, great job.
Hi.... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Hope you where ready for this rain, lucky so and so. We need a update on the pond, and pastures.
Hahah me and my father put these tracks back on using Ancient Greek leverage 😂😂😂 let me tell you. We might loose our eyeball .. heck our face but we gotta pull it on somehow using the arm . Don’t have bobcat laying around
Nice job guys.
Frank probably said about 20 words or less. Including "WOOOO!" Hes there to get shiii..stuff done... not to talk. Great video in the end 👍👍
Thats a huge difference between old vs new cleats!
Yah--
-- and the teeth on the spoket appeared more sharp than dull to me also ....
Outstanding job tks
What kind of tracks did you replace with and where did you get them from?
not sure my friend
Thank you for teaching!
Frank is an amazingly patient man most mechs don't want to be filmed, get Frank a Lock n Lube and a battery powered grease gun
Franks a good dude for sure!
If there is ever a call for a battery-powered grease gun this was it! 😊
a good buddy would have went and gotten that dewalt battery operated grease gun...lol
And an electric impact wrench
Frank, a man of few words.
Great video !!
You need to always cut the track bolts off. No need trying to take them off with a wrench of any kind.
When I saw the machine with the track removed and all that dirt caked up I got to thinking of a guy with an excavator I saw some years back. Every day after work he would hose it down and clean out all the dirt and then wipe it dry to avoid water marks in the paint. Before he left for the day the machine looked like it had just been delivered from a showroom. Now it was a new machine, or at least it looked like one to me, but hey, it's an excavator. It is used to dig through the dirt every day. It WILL get banged up, it WILL get scratched and it WILL get worn. That's just the way it works with heavy machines like this. But he treated it like it was a showpiece.
That was a few years ago, and seeing this I just wondered for how long he kept pampering that machine like that. I'm not laughing at him wanting to keep it clean, just at the image of him wiping it dry after washing it every day. I kind of understand what he was probably feeling. That machine was pretty expensive, and buying it new it had to hurt just a little bit knowing that every scratch or dent meant that it was loosing value. Just putting the bucket into the dirt the first time cost money. Personally I would probably be a bit obsessive until it got it's first good dent or deep scratch. After that I would be able to relax and accept that it is a tool and it will get worn with time and work, and that's just how it's supposed to work.
There are two very good reasons to remove the dirt from the tracks and carriage: 1. Remove abrasive material 2. be able to see any wear or damage. An added reason is some states or locales have rules or regulations about not transporting possible soilborne contaminants(live or chemical).
Clay soils can stick to rollers and eventually snap your track chains by overtensioning them.
@@royreynolds108 bingo on both parts. I have a 3-4k psi pressure washer on a trailer with 300 gallon of water just for issues like the above. You can't see what you can't see.
I see dump trucks with cracked leafs for example and the driver didn't know it was cracked or how long, until the dirt was washed away or something really fails.
Great video thanks again
I love it , great job
Good one because I need to replace my tracks too
Was gonna say you have good tracks and chinese tracks that are cheaper and wear out faster. Big price difference.
Haha he seems like fun! I like him already
Lift the front idler with the bucket then pump grease.
On track with this vid
Broke that 👍
Neat vid, like you said, don’t often get to see this.
Too Bad he Kept Talkin over you tho !! 😹
Thanks SRF. Give Frank a hug! Ha
If it was easy...well frank makes it look easy.
Does Snapon make a special pipe for its wrenches, or will any old bit of pipe lying around do? Because otherwise I think they are missing a niche market here....
There is no need to remove the grease fitting. There is a relief valve that should be loosened about one turn and will let the grease out of the adjuster.
I'll bet that's what he was loosening...just didn't know the name for it
Roll the bucket into idler with a pc of firewood! No skidsteer needed
but we have a skid steer so we used it my friend
That was very interesting Thanks !!!
Cool stuff!!!
Me: Dang boys! When is Andrew Camarata going to put up a new video?
TH-cam: Hey! You want to watch a new Stoney Ridge video? He's replacing a track on a dozer!
Me: HECK YEAH! I LOVE STONEY RIDGE FARMER CHANNEL!
I could have sworn you had a battery operated grease gun. How many grease tubes did you need to use?
Good job
So that’s frank. I pictured him much older with white hair and a beard. Kinda like Kenny Rogers. Lol
What happens to the old track - does it get rebuild or just scrap
scrap
They can rebuild them.
They can rebar the track shoes, and turn the bushes 180° to give you a fresh face.
Thanks guys
Looks like fun.
That is why they have battery operated grease guns!
I’m pretty sure Josh has one. He should’ve grabbed that thing.
Can you also "after market" pressure clean your old track before replacing for a new one so you don't have to mud the new one, that way is not that expensive to work clean like, removing parts, grease, bolts?
My man....these tracks will live in the dirt and mud. I agree...but it wasn't my job to handle....also..we didn't wanna work in a mud hole..I agree...working on clean equipment is better for sure
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer My great friend, I was kidding with the after market pressure wash, lol but whoever has to, it'll do it great because you'll decrease competition dirt vs grease by keeping them mud free. Wow!!! Take care brother and keep producing!!!
You can recondition your old track several times. This involves rotating each pin and bush until the unworn section is aligned to engage the sprocket. To do that obviously requires a complete track dismantling in a workshop. The gripper bars can also be cut free and new bar welded in place. Major track repairs are carried out in a dedicated track press (workshop). It does save a lot of money doing it this way.
You can only turn the pins and bushings once. by the time youve worn through them on runout its time for a new undercarriage. That's how CAT designed the undercarriage to wear.
Well done
Waspakwaka iwe?@@TinemiisheMuganyi
Tell ol' franky, lefty loosey haha
That was interesting.
Thank you...I dont believe there is another video out on the web that explains this in greater detail
A lot easier with the bolt to gather track the first ones I ever did you had to drive the master pin out an back in with a rod and sledgehammer
Very informative .why frank is
Using the rachet on a very
Tight bolts.he could use the
Fix bar to loosen it ,thereafter
Use the rachet when it got
Soft
Have you heard of corking the the track Sir . A friend of mine worked on the California fire dozers, and told me that cleets were welded onto the track,and minimal slips while maneuvering. Obviously it was thick flat metal straps on each plate. Obviously the more the better .look into it for more track life ,until you can, if not swap it out as you did . Enjoying the video . Wear gloves next time, kind of like a Halloween costume 🤪.
Weld-ons ( that what we called the in the military ) are temp fix. The problem is the welds will break or fracture and at the worst time. If the cleats are so worn that it's smooth tracks so to speak, you should look at laying on new tracks not more metal to a worn track.
So 4000 a track. Do you get any credit for the old one like a core
i'm curious about something. So i have a question for Frank i wanna know the his 953 8s repainted like a series 2 953C