It seems to me that the first mvt. is indeed very Ravel-like in the harmony and voicing, but is often much more regular and symmetrical in phrase lengths.
From the wikipedia page on Vaughan Williams: "Ravel took few pupils, and was known as a demanding taskmaster for those he agreed to teach. Vaughan Williams spent three months in Paris in the winter of 1907-1908, working with him four or five times each week. There is little documentation of Vaughan Williams's time with Ravel; the musicologist Byron Adams advises caution in relying on Vaughan Williams's recollections in the Musical Autobiography written forty-three years after the event. The degree to which the French composer influenced the Englishman's style is debated. Ravel declared Vaughan Williams to be 'my only pupil who does not write my music'; nevertheless, commentators including Kennedy, Adams, Hugh Ottaway and Alain Frogley find Vaughan Williams's instrumental textures lighter and sharper in the music written after his return from Paris, such as the String Quartet in G minor, On Wenlock Edge, the Overture to The Wasps and A Sea Symphony. Vaughan Williams himself said that Ravel had helped him escape from 'the heavy contrapuntal Teutonic manner."
Dazzling....Startling.....Wow! BRAVI from Acapulco !
It seems to me that the first mvt. is indeed very Ravel-like in the harmony and voicing, but is often much more regular and symmetrical in phrase lengths.
Yes, very much so.
That is because RVW had just taken some lessons from Ravel not too long before....
Sounds a lot like Darius Milhaud, but 10 years earlier !
More Debussy/Ravel but OK!
23:38 :D
Ravel??????
From the wikipedia page on Vaughan Williams:
"Ravel took few pupils, and was known as a demanding taskmaster for those he agreed to teach. Vaughan Williams spent three months in Paris in the winter of 1907-1908, working with him four or five times each week. There is little documentation of Vaughan Williams's time with Ravel; the musicologist Byron Adams advises caution in relying on Vaughan Williams's recollections in the Musical Autobiography written forty-three years after the event. The degree to which the French composer influenced the Englishman's style is debated. Ravel declared Vaughan Williams to be 'my only pupil who does not write my music'; nevertheless, commentators including Kennedy, Adams, Hugh Ottaway and Alain Frogley find Vaughan Williams's instrumental textures lighter and sharper in the music written after his return from Paris, such as the String Quartet in G minor, On Wenlock Edge, the Overture to The Wasps and A Sea Symphony. Vaughan Williams himself said that Ravel had helped him escape from 'the heavy contrapuntal Teutonic manner."
@@rondorondo557 wow, make sense that the first movement sound so much like ravel's first movement from his quartet. Thank you!
Very much so....RVW had just studied with Ravel not long before....