Winegard Rayzar OTA HD Antenna Chat and Install
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- Winegard Rayzar OTA HD Antenna chat and install. Yes, I know it has been out awhile. But you know I do not talk about something I do not use or have used.
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NOTICE: The LIFT is something that was being sold to manufactures (OEM) so there is no SKU for it yet to buy on-line. However you can order one directly from Winegard at this time.
Model: MT-7500, Cost: $50.00 Retail
You will have to call 800-288-8094 or email help @ winegard.com to get in an direct order.
I continued, I found I'm really good at watching other people work. Nice David.
Use a narrow would chisel to remove the caulking, removing a little at a time is easier than removing the width of a putty knife.
Great video! From watching this, now I know how my OTA antenna is wired on my Phaeton. Since I bought my RV used, I wasn't sure how the OTA antenna was wired up.
I found the best way to remove Dicor from my Phaeton was with an oscillating tool with a scraper blade. It made short work of the job and didn't damage the fiberlgass.
Sorry for the LONG delay in this response...But Yes, I HAVE TO GET me one of those tools!!!! :) Thanks Dave for the reminder. (I had seen this comment when coming to respond to a new comment.)
Hey Dave...I just had to come back to this post and say I did get one. :)
I do like what you do.
I like that your brain works faster than your able to talk. I sometimes have the same problem.
Keep the rubber on the road.
Hopefully that old bracket won’t rattle on the new unit. Very cool on it fitting like that!
After watching your video, maybe Wingard will make a simple adaptor that will allow people with the original mount like you have to bolt the Razor to the existing mount. No drilling, no dicor, just a couple of bolts-Done. I wish they made one that would bolt to the existing bat-wing antenna. Then it would be up above any roof obstructions and down for travel. Great video David, thanks for posting, say hey to Brenda.
I tried the Batwing's mast..Unfortunately, the weight of the beast makes it unable to be cranked-up.
Loved the detailed installation video of Winegard rayzar. Need to know where to buy the stand it goes with it to raise it up. Winegard doesn’t seem to show it. Send link if you would. Thank you.
Love the tip at the end on how to get Dicor off your hands- Thanks!
Thanks David These videos really help some of us older folks. LOL
Good Job.. I changed out my done for a updated Dish set up and I ended up with more Dicor on me then I had on the roof.. Good stuff.. But what a mess it can make..
Good job and you will see us one day. I just love your humor. You are a good man this is the things I’m looking for. We still have 2 more years before we can hit the road. But I’ll be buying stuff along the way Have a good day. Do you have any advice on at&t data hotspots booster.
Maybe if you set the legs on a bed of dicor and let the screws sandwich and compress sealant between the roof and the bracket it may have been a little tidier. Then cover it with more. Maybe a better seal too. Great video. Always informative.
The issue then is trying to remove it if you have to. You really do not want Dicor under something.
Very good point.
David, I love watching your TH-cam channels. You're funny and also knowledgeable about electronics. Do you have a degree in electronics?
Nope. Just seem to know what I know. :) But thanks!
We appreciate your wonderful videos. Safe travels.
Instead of removing the old stand, if it was needed, you could have just cut it off and left the old mounts in place. But your system worked.
Dave were you not concerned about hitting the underlying wiring (for either wires or A/C drains tubes) under the surface of the roof when you were drilling all of those holes for the screws to mount the support stand?
Really enjoyed this post. Will you please share with us the item # and where to purchase the stand for the Rayzar? Thanks
Please read the video description as it was included in it.
at 23 minutes, when you figured out that the new system will fit over the old system, you should have then, figured out a way to attach the new bracket to the old bracket, and then installed the antenna. thus, eliminating the need to put in more screw holes and to glue down the new stand.
While watching this, I was thinking the same thing. I would have cut the legs off off the new Rayzar Bracket and screwed the newly modified plate to the old bracket legs that were on the roof. Could have used flat head metal screws and perhaps drilled a recess hole prior to mounting so everything sits flush. I'm not a fan of putting extra holes in a roof if I don't have to.
I was going to suggest the same thing. A thin piece of rubber
Thanks for the video and straight up presentation! We currently have a Winegard Rayzar Z1 antenna, sounds like other than the mounting holes, the Rayzar OTA HD Antenna would be a direct upgrade since it is powered over the coax cable? I don't want to have to run new wires up to my roof.
I was just wondering if the increased channel count also increased the count on watchable channels compared to the old unit.
David, David, David... All you had to do was rivet the new mounting bracket to your old one. No mess, no fuss...
Yupper...But then we would not have the funny video of the Dicor all over the place. LOL You see, I do my videos usually as one take. In this case, I did not know the stand would go over the other mount until I had it all pulled apart. As such, I admit, I did not think it though and just went forward. I was just happy I did not need to get the Dicor off. So yup, I put in 9 small screw holes I did not need to. Not that I am am worried about them, but yes, surely could have done just as you had said. "Smack to head!"
As always thank you for your detail installation. Oh by the way how did you convince Brenda to climb onto the roof to film this
The camera was on a tripod the entire roof shoot. (I digitally edit for the zooms etc going from 4K to 1080P) She would come up if I asked, she has before and does not mind it.
Ahhh ok gotcha. Thanks for the info
Just to let you all know that Winegard doesn't have the MT-7500 on their web site and didn't even know about it when I called to order. I was put on hold and it took some time before she came back on to say it was a special order. I was able to order it finally at a cost of $50.00, $12.50 shipping and they charged me $3.50 for my states sales tax.
Hi...That info was in the video description. :)
How is the Rayzar working out for you guys? I am thinking on replacing my King Jack antenna and was wondering if is going to be worth doing that. Do you have the latest model? Also, I am reading lots of negative comments on Winegard website, have you experience any problems yet?
I have most latest model and so fart it seems to work very well. Just for kicks I have run the scan now and again to see what it comes up with direction and frequency wise and it is very consistent.
You have had this for a year, do you still like it? If you were to replace it would you replace it with the same thing?
David, can you give an update on this antenna? I was looking at this for my RV, but not sure anymore after reviewing so many bad reviews of unit failing.
We have had no issues. From my understanding in talking with Winegard...Motor issues were from a few years back as they received a bad batch from the supplier. I have not had any issues with mine at all I am happy to report.
Why didn’t you just remove the old antenna off the stand and adapt the new mounting plate to attach to the old legs by removing the legs off the new plate. Hysterical way no new holes in the roof?
Did not think of it during a live non-stop shoot. Even if I did, I likely would want the structure engineered by Winegard for the product. It does have more size and this resistance to wind when driving then the old, much thinner one would.
Where do you have the video clip of the inside install. I have a Winegard distribuion box and would like to keep it? However it and the Rayzar both need the use of the same DC volt supply.
Sorry, not sure what you are asking as I show the inside install in the video... th-cam.com/video/pDDAngQBYdM/w-d-xo.html But my install would be different than yours anyway as the coach is different. All you need is 12V so not sure on your issue as you would still plug it into the distribution as you still need to send it though the coach.
David now that you have had the Rayzar for several months, any issues? Also shouldn't the unit be raised so the roof AC units don't block the TV signals?
Hi...I have not had any issues with the unit and it continues to preform well. As as far as the AC's, you can only go so high, so you really will have an issue with any such antenna unless unless you can crank it up higher. But it actually is above the AC slightly. But for the most part, most HD transmission towers are located at the highest points of elevation. As such, you "should" be ok for the most part.
Dave, don't you think you will hear the new mount bouncing around (tapping) the old mount as your driving?
Nope. Not at all. There was enough tension on it not to mention way to many other noises to cover it. LOL
I was thinking the same, maybe placing a rubber piece between the metals.
If it did and someone complained you could just say it was caused by rodents.
It really is not going to be any issue. I am not at all worried about it.
I am thinking about getting one myself but probably would cut the aluminum stand out of the way but not disturb the Dicor. I have one question however, do you need the other box at all that Dave left that has the ERR message?
No, not needed at all. I just left it until I have something to put in the hole. :-) Yes, I thought about cutting it as it would come off quickly with a Dremel. But I figured I would leave it as if we sell the coach I would like take that with me and the lifts may be useable for something else to the next owner.
I cut the aluminum stand as mine sat too high.
I just replace 12yr old saucer antenna with this one, only 40 miles from DFW metro, and live on Hill too, No signals at all, but installer got 64 signals, at the most 10miles difference. I got 4 channels with old one. do U think the stand would give us better chance of a signal??
40 miles is a very far for this size antenna. You for all you know you could be pointing the antenna right at the AC unit and that would surely not be good. I have no idea what you have as a RV or motor coach and if it has roof risers or not on the sides. You surely would like the antenna up as far as you could for like I mentioned, and AC could be blocking it for all I know. But 40 miles is a distance and I have no way to know what is between you and the towers, at the installers, nothing may be in the way.
@@DavidBott Yes, I thought of all that too, but we took it out on a trip, into the thick woods of Eastern OK, and to our surprise we got stations from Ark.which was more like 75-100miles away, through forest and very high hills, they call mountains, part of the Ozarks. I guess we can try the stand, but I can return this antenna now, and probably get the old batwing winegard? Thanks for your help, we enjoyed your video too!
@@thehirm Hi...When you say "...but we took it out on a trip..." do you mean this antenna? Just wondering. If so, then it sure seems to be working right and thus would point to an interference issue then currently.
@@DavidBott 1st we took it back to the installer they showed me, still hook-up to my trailer, it got 64 signals, 40 miles from Dallas,. We got 18 signal, at home, and 4 UHF channels, which we are 40 miles from Ft.Worth, Old antenna got 5 channels but had some local channels too! So I reset the Rayzar reset, than I had nothing. Still have nothing, No-time to return at that point before our trip to the Eastern Oklahoma, At camp to our surprise, we go 5 channels all from Arkansas , this much farther than 40miles plus thick forest and very steep hills, which they call Mountains. now home we still have no signal from the antenna, tried several times.....
@@thehirm Hi...Not sure what to tell you. You can move 5 miles and have different reception as it is all based on what may be between you and the transmitting tower. Are you rescanning for signals on the Rayzar controller? Hold down SEARCH button for 5 seconds and when it starts the LEDs spinning around, let go. This will rescan for signals. After that it should auto point in the direction that it could see the most frequencies. (Not channels mind you but the channels run on Frequencies so the more of them you have, the more of a chance of more channels in that direction.) Then you need to be sure your TV is on AIR, not cable, and tell it to SCAN FOR CHANNELS. It may also be called OTA Channels. (Over The Air) At that point you get what you can. You also can press an arrow button to move to the next direction that had the most frequencies and scan on your TV again and see what you get. But yes, you could move just a few miles and based on the direction you are parked or what is between you and the towers, you can run into issue. Even more so if the Rayzar is mounted near an AC unit and it is pointing right at it. Seeing it has a lot of aluminum it becomes a shield. Can't do much for you other than explain like I have. You may care to give a call to Winegard but it is likely you will be told the same.
Should have used some zip ties to hold the extra wire
Wanted it protected from water. It's no big deal as it does not take much to hold it down.
Can you adapt the winegard Ryazar to the existing triple vision bracket on my Tiffin ? So I can avoid using the bracket that you installed on the roof,over the old bracket?
Yes, there were other comments that covered that. It seems you can make some aluminum attachment brackets. Look though the comments.
the timing couldn't be better on this. i hate directional antennas...even though they may be better. our new 5er has a king directional and i wanted an omni directional or this unit. might be leaning to the rayzor.
any chance you would know if i could use this with an HD home run to be able to record OTA shows on an external HD?
I checked the reviews for this antenea and found them quite unfavorable. It has been a year since this posting, how is your unit operating and have you had any E3 errors as a lot of people have had. Thanks.
Hi...I have not. The issues people had were the motors that were used from a bad batch from a supplier. The bad thing is it took time for the failure to occur so they did not know there was a part issue.
Do you have the link for the stand? Thanks I have been looking for a good OTH for my 2010 Phaeton.
Hey David, do you have a link for the stand?
This is so very new their is no SKU for it yet. However you can order one directly . Model... MT-7500 $50.00 retail and you will have to call 800-288-8094 or email help@winegard.com to get in an direct order. (I'll add the info to the description.)
Great video David...you seem to be a nice fella.
You should wear old clothes to wipe your hands on.
Good to see you can kneel.. I have to use knee pads.
What camera and editing system are you using?
Winegard should give you some freebies.
David, when you hit the button and change frequencies do you have to re-program the TV?
I am not sure what you are asking. For when you get somewhere and let it scan it then selected the the direction with the most number of frequencies it can see. You then tell your TV to SCAN for Over The Air channels and it will find the ones it can see. The TV is only going to see what the antenna can pull in. You can move the antenna left or right to try to fine tune a channel if it is week...But no needed to re-scan usually unless you move.
@@DavidBott At 16:48 you hit the button and it picked up the other frequencies. Is the antennae picking up channels from all the towers or just from the one that is showing green on the indicator?
My other question is why that antennae and not the Winegard 360 which is about a third the price?
@@stefantrestyn5726 This is a DIRECTIONAL antenna. It moves. As such when you run a SCAN it moves the antenna in slowly in 360 degrees and takes frequency readings. When it is done it tells you how many frequences it can see the most of and in what direction. Do not confuse "frequency" with "Channels" as a frequency can carry more than one channel. So it is showing you the direction that has the most frequencies as that should the the direction that you would receive the most channels. So I can MOVE it to the next stored location that has other frequencies and thus like may have different channels and the one I watch the most.
The Wingard 360 is a OMNI DIRECTIONAL antenna listening all directions at one time. As such, it is not as powerful, nor does it have the range, of a directional antenna. A directional antenna has a higher gain as it is focused (pointed) towards the tower sending the signal. Thus the cost of a motorized, automatic, antenna.
To get the idea of a directional antenna, cup you hand around your ear towards the direction you want to hear and you can hear better. Kind of the same idea as you are now able to collect more sound waves, frequencies, into your ear. :)
@@DavidBott Thank you
Oops. Sorry wrong video.
How do I find where all my cables come together in the motor home
Sorry, but that is way to open of a question. I would suggest finding a user community on-line that has the same RV as you and ask in that group where you may find what you may be looking for.
So Independant from the install, does this antenna work any better than the standard bat wing you crank up and point at the closest set of towers?
I can't answer that as I did not have one.
David, It's been a year since you installed the rayzar, how's it doing for you. A lot of reviews speak about motor failures and it stopped working. Have you had any problems. Thanks!
As I have mentioned in post comments who asked the same, motor issues were from a few years back as they received a bad batch from the supplier. I have not had any issues with mine at all I am happy to report.
@@DavidBott Thanks, sorry I didn't see the other comments and your answer, I watched this video when you originally did it but wasn't in the market for one at that time. I'm currently replacing the entire roof on our 2003 Newmar DSDP and we're thinking about replacing the original bat wing with this one or maybe just use an internal as we don't watch much over the air, mostly Netflix and Hulu through wifi or my hotspot. Thanks. You and Brenda have fun and be safe.
Did you or have you had motor problems with the unit? Thanks
I have not. However I had heard about that and thus asked them about it when I was testing etc. They had said that yes, they did in the past have an issues with the motor based on a bad batch received they from the manufacturer of that part. So I have not have had any issues thus far.
Tim, after reading numerous reviews, high temps seem to be a problem.
David, where can I get the antennacraft 360 antenna that you took off the rv?
That was put on by Tiffin when it was built. It was not a good unit IMHO but you can try Triple H Electronics Inc in Red Bay AL. (Just do a Google search.) They source electronics for Tiffin.
@@DavidBott Thank you very much.
Ok you got me lol
I bet your still trying to get the sealant off your hands
Nope...Paint thinner does wonderful which I mentioned in my voice overlay at the ending logo bumper.
I can tell you---You got way too much on you roof!! Have to stay with the KISS principle. Then you still had to show us removing the dicor, boring!!