Light Gun Reviews 138: Best ways to play Wii light gun games
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I explain what I personally think are the best ways to play light gun games on the Nintendo Wii.
Addendum: The LCD Topgun by EMS even predates the Wii
Addendum: The LCD Topgun by EMS even predates the Wii
Hi Ben, love the thoroughness and deadpan style of your videos. You seem to highly rate the Nyko Wand+, but I can't find them anywhere (in the UK at least). Is the Nintendo Remote Plus (with built in Motion Plus) a close second or a distant second? Is it a worthwhile upgrade on a standard official remote, for light gun use?
@@axi0matic Thanks a lot, Matt! I feel the Nintendo Remote Plus is a notable improvement to the non-plus. But the gap to the Nyko Wand+ and the Nintendo Remote Plus is notable too. Still, I would argue the upgrade is worth having =)
I guess the E Real Games Rgt G1 predated the Ems Topgun then.
@@bandai1983 I am not sure about that, and it's difficult to find a release date for the LCD Topgun. It was around in 2005 too, so the order could as well be the other way round. In Asia the EMS was considered being the first.
@@Boojakascha Pacmancase seems have marked it circa 2004 in the description of his video, but I guess that's not proof.
This is an incredibly thorough video. I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the fact that there's a person on earth with this much knowledge of wii shooters. Hopefully you have a video on wii shooter games too!
C’est la Wii^^
Thank you, kind Sir!
Not yet, sadly! But I will cover Wii games for sure soon =)
@@Boojakascha I want that video! Right now I’m looking for wii guns
@@hibiscusflower5911 Specifically an overview over multiple games? I mostly intended to cover game by game but in more detail. There are some hidden gems ;-)
Thanks for your feedback! ^^
@@Boojakascha please let us know those hidden gems, I love wii shooters, specially rail shooters but only know a few
This is the most useful video on Wii Remotes so far...
Thank you very much! =)
@@Boojakascha Oh. I didn't expect you will come into the comment section. Maybe you have stumbled upon even more precise controllers or a ways to set up the system?
@@rainbowdash5035 Let me think...
The coolest addition is that I have the MP5 now (ep 245)
th-cam.com/video/smJrYo_CWWY/w-d-xo.html
And great ways to use those Wii controllers and cradles on PC (ep 243)
th-cam.com/video/9UhUdQtSlk8/w-d-xo.html
@@Boojakascha Thanks, much love! 💌
Thanks this is very informative. As someone with limited access to CRT and PC options I use my Wii alot for lightgun games. It's just so convenient. Good to know there are ways to improve the experience!
I am glad that you as a Wii enthusiast enjoyed the video =) The Wii had some awesome light gun games, it is definitely worth owning. But in terms of accuracy and precision it will for every be a far cry to light gun games based on CRT raster recognition.
Really informative video! As someone who loves Wii and light gun games in general I really enjoy your content
Thank you very much! It's comments like these which keep me going =)
Oh my god, thank you so much for pointing out the melting handle of the revolver of house of the dead overkill, im glad to know im not the only one.
Its such a shame since i specifically pick the revolver with the special black handle years ago and now it looks like a mess :,c
It's really bad. After I hold it my whole hand gets sticky. It's super hard then to get the hands clear again. Soapy water isn't sufficient here^^
You should try to clean it with a bit of w40 or lighter fluid, I had a third party controller with rubberized grips that got really sticky, and with just a bit of lighter fluid on a paper towel, I was able to remove the stickiness completely.
Fully agree !
These are the guns I use. They are just beautiful. That's all.
The regular RE Chronicles shooter pistol is top notch. Got 2. I wanted the magnum but the cost is insane now. Didn't know about the grip til this video. I lucked out I suppose.
Thank you! This is the video I was looking for! Have been struggling to set up WiiU for Wii "light gun" games.
Thank you very much for your kind feedback! It is much appreciated! =)
Too bad none of the great gun shells are no longer on ebay and if they are... well they are not worth the high prices.
It's unfortunate indeed.
Been drooling over the Crossfire for a long time. Maybe someday I’ll find one or two of them for my Wii.
I just love light gun games.
Some years ago, I purchased the PS2's Zero Force Laser Gun made by Dragonplus (as you reviewed in one of your videos) and it's an amazing 3 in 1 gun (Konami Justifier, Guncon and Guncon 2). Unfortunatelly I missed the chance to purchase a second gun.
That said, I didn't repeat the same mistake with the Wii, so I purchased two Precision FX for the Wii (04:57) and I don't regret because the quality of the product is really good.
do you play double handed or with friends?
The Precision Fx is my favourite cradle by far! =)
@@Boojakascha Sometimes I go Clint Eastwood style with 2 guns. And sometimes I play with someone.
Either I'm using a single gun or dual-wielding, the Precison FX feels great.
I'm also considering the possibility two purchase two extra guns for a possible third and fourth player, but I would pick a cheaper model. Maybe something like this:
www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20200210082703&SearchText=wii+gun
@@carlosbarreto4695 cool! The short ones can be great! Personally I can't use Wii Zappers well because my hands are too big for them.
@@Boojakascha , I never used a Wii Zapper before, but the reason why I spent sometime searching for a Wii Gun is because I think the Wii Zapper is ridiculous. It looks like it was made out of a PVC pipe. It was a big letdown from Nintendo to create such horrible design, but fortunatelly some companies stepped in to offer third-party alternatives. There is even a Assault Rifle for the Wii:
www.youtube.com/
watch?v=OU91L77rQXY
It's all ergonomics^^ If your hand fit it well, you might end up enjoying it. The Wii Zapper is the favorite light gun of one of my viewers. The MP5 is lovely^^ I try to hunt it down for some years now. It has integrated Wii Remote and Nunchuk!
This video turned me into a light gun collector.
That's a very kind thing to say, thanks a lot! =)
From my experience the Penguin United Crossfire has a massive dead zone in the bottom right corner of the screen, making it impossible to calibrate except when standing up and to the far left. Once it's calibrated it's pretty accurate but that is a very awkward angle to play from. However, there are two versions of the Crossfire (I have version 1 which doesn't support the Motion Plus attachment) so I don't know if that was fixed in version 2.
Also, for something like House of the Dead 2/3 where rapid fire is a must, I found the Nyko Perfect Shot and Nyko Wand+ combo to be more reliable/consistent than the Crossfire.
Very interesting! I think I just know the version with the motion plus socket. I would be interested to hear, whether the sensor alignment problem was a general problem in the Mark 1 or whether quality control was just a bit subpar then.
@@Boojakascha I'm also curious so I'm on the lookout for version 2, but it may be a while before I can get one due to its extreme rarity and cost. If I do get one at some point, I'll be sure to reply in a comment.
As far as gun shells go, while I'm overall happy with the Perfect Shot, I'm still on the lookout for something better. The trigger could be lighter, it's missing a proper sight for aiming, and the back of the gun is abrasive to my thumb after long play sessions. I'd like to try some of the examples you recommended but they seem to be impossible to find these days.
Also, just wanted to say a big thank you for this amazing channel which has by far the most comprehensive set of light gun reviews I've seen anywhere. It's hard to find reviews that go beyond a surface level of "the gun looks cool" and go into detail on accuracy/precision, ergonomics, trigger feeling, etc. Your enthusiast perspective is greatly appreciated.
@@atrocity3010 Thank you very much, Sir!
Have much success hunting down more Wii shells =)
I also appreciate the comparison to real world firearms, such as the p99 Walter, which is my glovebox pistol, while the PPQ is my daily sidearm!
Carl Walther makes some neat stuff! But also his son Lothar knows how to make barrels!!
@@Boojakascha
can we expect a 2nd channel for proper firearms any time soon?
;)
@@einherrjar ^^ Apparently it's difficult. Lots of gun channels struggle with TH-cam. If I remember correctly TH-cam started to punish gun contend after there was a rampage in one of their offices... Honestly I was also a bit afraid^^ I assumed they will make their witch hunt AI assisted.
@@Boojakascha
i love how Taofledermaus circumvented youtube's censorship on that matter in some videos by keeping the guns off-screen and referring to them as "mass accelerators", all the while everybody fully aware of what they mean.
best illustration of how stupid and arbitrary youtube's censorship has become, and very funny.
@@einherrjar It's sheer perversion... they work with word recognition (the use their auto subtitle routine) and image recognition... They put in a ton of effort and at the same time they ignore important matters...
After watching this video I scoured a couple sites for a Precision FX and actually managed to snag one for 10€, couldn't be happier. Thanks for showing me the light... gun :^)
Very happy for you!
Love that pun :D
Holy cow! I knew TH-cam doesn't give a fudge about video quality but the compression artifacts at 1:54 are terrible! I appreciate that they are trying to make me feel young again as they take me back to the mid Noughties when they weren't able to encode the color red, but this is just cheap!
You are quite welcome! This is the only video of its kind I have been able to find, I found it extremely useful.
I approve of your choice to show a Sony BVM as your CRT example. Looks like the monitor showing the sensor bar mods is a PVM too!
I see light gun games losing popularity to be pretty inevitable. Arcade genres in general have seen a downward trend with few exceptions in the last ten years. On top of that, custom controllers as a trend seemed to have its last hurrah with the Guitar Hero and Rock Band franchise and it's exceedingly rare to see custom controllers for modern systems now. Though Sony reacted to Wiimotes with its superior (in terms of accuracy) Move controllers, it wasn't built into the system and didn't see heavy utilization until PSVR became popular. There just wasn't a chance for light gun games in the modern era, alas.
I see Wii as kind of the last charge for light gun games. The accuracy sucked, but it was a popular system with a low barrier to entry for developers and had a point and click controller built in. Accordingly, it got a lot of light gun games that I don't think any other system would have gotten.
Thank you, kind Sir!
It's hard to say what made light guns fall out of fashion. If you think of it, light guns were there since the very beginning (arcades, home video game consoles etc). Maybe it was just bad luck, that the industry didn't got the transition from CRTs right. I agree with you, arcades and specialty controllers are fading. It's a pity and doesn't help light guns to regain ground. Sadly ignorant developers who make light gun-esque games, without light gun support out of laziness, pretending "to not know about modern substitutes" don't help the field. But luckily light guns aren't dead, and have never been. It's less mainstream than it was decades ago, but the enthusiasts didn't loose even a bit of passion. =)
Splitting the sensor bar and putting it on the side of the tv is a genius idea, I will try this immediately.
thank you, Sir =)
@@Boojakascha I ordered a couple of sensorbars so I could experiment moving them about and splitting the signals before opening them up and finalizing it, but i never thought of putting it on the side; that makes so much sense!
@@MartinTedder Super curious to hear how you end up liking it =)
@@Boojakascha well, my second Wii arrived today, with a sensorbars; so I could experiment. I taped the left side off of one, and the right side of the other. I checked if the ir was blocked with the camera on my phone. The calibration on the Wii showed 2 signals...but left and right didn't work. Maybe there was still ir leakage from the tape that my phone camera didn't see.
But i put my sensor bar behind the TV and that already makes a huge difference! Hotd overkill was unplayable before, but now, leaning back a little, it's just as fun as it was 20 years ago! I'll still try the splitting though...
I still don't understand though. It feels like putting the bar more forward would make it better...you widen the angle. Anyway; bar=far
@@MartinTedder thank you for the update! =)
Really great point about the Wii's role in light gun decline.
Thank you very much! =)
I very much appreciate this light gun review for Nintendo Wii. This video and your others videos have inspired me to begin collecting gun attachments for Nintendo Wii and PlayStation 3 a few years ago. I have accumulated a number of what I believe to be some great gun attachments for these consoles. I have also managed to find two Penguin United gun for Wii after a year plus of frequent searching almost daily. Both Penguin United guns also happen to be the updated version where sensitivity issues where fixed and includes an adapter that allows a Nintendo Wii Motion Plus to be attached. I also have several rare light gun attachments for Nintendo Wii and PlayStation 3. Eventually, I plan to collect guns for retro consoles as well as I have acquired a 36" Sony Trinition CRT TV. Anyways, if interested let me know where I can send some pictures of my gun collection so far. I have a Twitter account.
Thank you =) That sounds awesome! I am a lurker at Twitter (use it for research, but I don't appear as boojakascha threre) so you can share your handle if you want :D. Also I sometimes read posts at reddit at /r/lightgunshooters.
Sadly the wii works just like a mouse, the pointer is not really accurate to your sight, but to the aimsight displayed = the pointer. So players are not really playing using their real shooting skills . At the end is like riding a bicycle with training wheels , but forever. The only way to play and enjoy the real experience must be with a real Lightgun .
IR technology is not the culprit of the Wii's subpar performance. There are great performing IR solutions such as Gun4. Even Arcades use IR nowadays.
@@Boojakascha the need of an aimsight just to shoot accurately is a big part of the main issue. Remenber dude, that back in time, games like House of the dead, or Time Crisis or even older ones like Duck Hunt, didn't use any aimsight. I the player scored or if the player misses was just because his/her own skills. Any technollogy that needs an aimsight to be used is sadly kinda like step backwards and is a shame if players can't even turned that aimsight off. As I mentioned before: Training Wheels for a lightgun shooter. Not to mention how easy is to get disconnected (in wii)
@@juanjoserivasgarcia2336 IR location systems don't demand on-screen crosshair & many games allow you to turn it off.
This is a great video and was exactly what I was looking for, but now I'm sad that none of these accessories are easy to get anymore :'(
Time is something ungrateful, right?^^
I just started collecting every cool light gun and gun shell for Wii and ps move and I thought I had most of them but you have many I've never seen and no matter where I look online I can't find any of them. Mainly the ones with integrated wiimote and nunchuck. I did get the one that looks like guncon 3. I did see a few of those guns but they were on a website that looked sketchy and it was in a foreign language. Hopefully these show up on eBay or Amazon someday, I would love to add them to the collection. You should check out the TH-cam channel gaming off the grid too, they are really into light gun games and have a great collection.
I wish you the best of luck getting the remaining pieces =)
I have checked out Gaming Off the Grid in the past. It's nice!
@Boojakascha
If you are still reading (from my recent post on the AE Light Gun video), I am fascinated by light guns and always looking for alternatives. That said, I have always been fascinated by this video for Wii light gun games and didn't know if you know of ANYONE that has a Scorpion Vii...to me, that seems like it would be the ultimate light gun accessory. If not, please let me know if you ever come across on for sale...I have searched for at least two years now. However, I have been successful discovering a Nyko Action Pak (new in box) and that performs very well, but doesn't have those extra buttons the Scorpion Vii possesses.
Cheers,
Brent
I like the Scorpion Vii the least among the integrated Wii Remote guns^^ What do you like better when compared to the Penguin United and the Big Ben ones?
Also since I made this video, I was able to pick up the Pergiocar3 Mitragliatrice Wii "Rapid Shot" (episode 245; th-cam.com/video/smJrYo_CWWY/w-d-xo.html )
@@Boojakascha
I would absolutely love to acquire any of the Wii guns you discuss/review: Mitragliatrice Rapid Shot, Penguin United Corssfire, Big Ben P99 or even the Scorpion vii. Since (I can only assume) most of these Wii accessories were never distributed in The States, perhaps you have the ability to source at least one of these in Europe. As of now, I cannot find any of these devices for sale. If you locate one, please let me know!
Regards,
Brent
@@brentrusche2056 Penguin United is a US company & the Scorpion Vii is from Southeast Asia. Sure, I will notify you, once I see units =)
I feel so many lightgun issues with wii tracking could be solved if the games offered fixed and resetable calibrations options on first start.
Indeed. And those shuffle-ware games would have been so much better with calibration^^
Very good. Excellent systematic review. I've found that aiming on wii games is a bit off for me. I've been trying all sorts of different sensors (except for the Power A). It seems the distance from the screen is the major factor? I have accumulated a number of original wii sensor bars, so instead of cutting one up, I could connect up 2 sensor bars taping up one set of lights on each to do your side to side trick?
Thank you very much! =)
Yes, this will work! :)
Super hard to find the Nyko Wand+
Well worth it though! =)
You are serious with this guns and it's good for you.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you, Ecko =)
Shame that the Scorpion and the Walther pistols aren't common in America which often frowns upon game guns that look way too real unless they have some insane neon colors, especially on the gun muzzle
very unfortunate indeed!
i found 4 of the guns you mentioned in the wild 👍🏽 I actually just bought the Action pak and the wand plus this am 🔥🔥, those were 2 that took me a while to find
awesome, happy to hear that! =)
Scorpion vii , This gun just removes the stupid trigger spring，That trigger feeling will be very good
That's a great suggestion, thank you! I will try for sure!
Dude, do you a have a video about have you modded the wireless sensor bar? I own 2, the one model for Wii and the model for WiiU. But the WiiU model includes a cable to supply energy uas ethe bar d includes a port to plug it. But the original model just have the option to use batteries... and the charge is over after a couple of hours.
Unfortunately I don't have a video on that topic. Just solder wires to the battery terminals. For each battery in the slot, add up 1.5 V and choose the power supply unit accordingly. This will work nicely =)
Is there a chance you can review newer alternatives like stuff on amazon or common stuff perhaps in a video? It's hard to come by certain wii guns you showed off lol and would just like your opinion on newer ones if possible 👍
I can't find any new guns on Amazon. In general what I said about cradles remains generally true: use short ones, which have the Remote as far back as possible. Use ones with nice looking sights. If you can, try if you like how the trigger mechanism feels. In the worst case you can lubricate it.
@@Boojakascha I just dont wanna make a gamble with a cheap cradle like one ya know
@@snowydayssduhh9771 I see
I have been very pleased with the results from Nyko WandPlus and Nyko pistol grip. Iwish I could find one of the Crossfire guns by penguin, but I couldn't find a single one for sale online. I missed out on most of the excellent shooting accessories for the Wii and Wii U.
The Wand+ stuff is great^^ I am glad you like it! Maybe a Crossfire will unexpectadly appear at some point at a thriftshop or something =)
@@Boojakascha I always prefer prefer a true light gun, such as Guncon II on PS2, but my 32" CRT tv takes up so much space. I'm really hoping the Sinden turns out well. I paid in £100 and should have the gun soon.
@@milkapeismilky5464 I am also looking forward for the Sinden light gun =)
You obviously have lots of experience with the various remotes and cradles. I really appreciate the video.
Could you elaborate on how the Nyko Wand+ is better? Almost all reviews online seem to say the opposite.
Love the intro haha tosing the crt pic was epic
I am glad you like it =)
Sadly, the Nyko Wand Plus appears to be impossible to find nowadays.
That's unfortunate :(
I actually own a couple wired PowerA Ultra Sensor Bars and love them. However, I dislike that some Nintendo Wii games lack the ability to adjust calibration so I have to aim my gun a bit downward since my sensor bar is positioned just below my TV. Would it be better to use an official Wii Sensor Bar modded by cutting it in half and having one sensor on each side of my TV at half height? For reference, I sit approximately 8 feet away from a 43" wide screen TV and my sensor bar sits just 2 1/2" below my TV.
Is it for games that don't calibrate well, or ones which lack a calibration screen all together? If it's for the latter it won't improve the situation much, motion tracking will always be lackluster in those games, no matter what. Still, I use the split technique, as I think helps games that do calibrate properly to track better. I am not 100 % sure whether this is really the case though. I alternate between this and the Ultra Sensor bar =)
@@Boojakascha It was for Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles, which sadly lacks a calibration screen. I will have to mod a couple of my official Nintendo Wii sensor bars. Thanks!
I hope it will improve the situation for you :D
Enjoyed your video. You should get the resident evil shot blaster and magnum and do a review. And maybe the Clone Trooper rifle
I am glad you liked it! Sadly I lack those two. Are they any good? I would assume the Magnum would suffer the same problem as the other rather long guns such as the generic revolver....
I did two videos on Storm Trooper light guns! =) One is a real light gun and the other one is IR reference light source based too!
Ok I have made some tests on my wii and a lot of games here my2 cents : Only a few game allow you to calibrate the gun decently on wii, fortunately there are the best one ( house of the dead 2/3/overkill, ghost squad and desperados heroes). In this case, the experience is quite nice (but maybe not as good as a a CRT one) and you can even play without the screen crosshair.
Others games do not allow calibration and are less good. You have to shoot on the fly for most of them or use tricky ways to aim correcly. (moving the sensor bar from left to right or use a gun with a scope, allowing to aim upper..)
note: house of dead games memorize the calibration witch is quite convenient. House of dead overkill got unfortunately a reload bug . Not sure 100% yet where this problem comes from .( you need to calibrate the wiimote before playing and deaactivate the shaker in the wii menu I think)
I agree the more accessibles and good pistols are surely the Niko pistol grip and maybe the nerf pistol . But to also get a gun with a scope can be interesting for others game witch do not allow calibration . About the remote, I don't see the difference between my NIKO wand + and an official nintendo motion plus remote. I prefer the last one because the buttons are in plastic and give better sensation than the Niko wand plus (buttons in rubber, who look spoil after a few game ).
Thank you for sharing you thoughts. Personally I sense tremendous differences in accuracy using different remotes.
@@Boojakascha In fact I don't own the Niko pistol grip but I have the Niko pistol perfect shot whitch is quite basic ... (but still better than many generic ones) The Nyko pistol grip looks very difficult to find. Can you tell me how did you manage to get your wii guns ?
@@DrAzTiK01 I got most of them from ebay =)
@@Boojakascha sorry, it is a bit off topic but what do you thing about the sidenlightgun ? www.sindenlightgun.com/
@@DrAzTiK01 I actually did a video on it!
th-cam.com/video/9_IOXJdeYjc/w-d-xo.html
In one sentence: I like it!
I agree and disagree, yes Wii should have had calibration and a no cursor option, but I'd argue the Wii also reinvigorated the gun genre some with arcades fading away. There are much better light guns but a Wiimote gets the job done well as a light gun for a stock controller. Some nice specialized Wii guns I've not seen before. :)
I do think the many empty shell options for Wii guns are very underwhelming compared to actually connecting and adding additional hardware. I'm looking for rumble, bolt actuation, or at least the Wiimote speaker making a noise, some peripheral immersion.
In a future episode you will hear more rambling on the topic^^ Maybe I can express my opinion clearer then.
The lack of the features you mentioned is a software problem really. The Wii remote has both: speaker & rumble unit. Therefore any cheap craddle could in theory have sound & force feedback ;-)
@@Boojakascha Look forward to it, yeah I'm not watching in particular order heh. Oh I understand, you're right about it being mostly missing software on the part of the Wii. You've definitely made me think about precision aiming being important and how it's often neglected now.
@@loganjorgensen I am very happy to hear that! :D
I know this video is old but I was wondering if you’ve found a way to improve accuracy of the remote by using 3rd parry sensor bars or other methods like that
@@wastyaza Indeed. Higher spot to spot distance and putting the spots center screen.
i would love to hear your opinions on best LCD light guns .. like the aimtrak ... or what u think of that method in general .. i know its not as good .. but wondering if you think there is any hope
While I think the Wii and copy cats contributed a lot to the hibernation of light guns, I think that the technology itself (IR based reference system) is great. When done right, the latency is super low (faster than raster recognition on a CRT) while the accuracy and precision are preserved. Sadly it's a balance between ease of use (RGT:G1, Aimtrak, G-Con 3, Arcageguns com) and accuracy (Topgun 3, JayBee DIY 4 IR Led Lightgun System). In general I love IR guns and I am glad they exist.
I would be curious to see a breakdown on how the nyko wand + improves on the Nintendo remote. is it a by way of having a better ir sensor?
I think all Wii Remotes and the good clones all use the same Pixart sensor, so that can't be the answer^^
Extremely helpful reviews.
I am glad you enjoy them!
Do you have any experience with Batocera and how the Nyko would perform in emulation?
Unfortunately not, no.
Even thought you sound bored in the video, i really like you channel, you got a new sub
Thank you very much kind sir! Noooo I am never ever bored. I am just unable to express feelings^^
Hey about the gun you said i talked it with my dad and he said ok cool
@@joaquinparedes899 I will keep an eye open during my ebay searches!
Thanks man, if you dont find one just tell me :)
Hey about that gun you said, you dont need to search for it, im going get one my self ok so im sorry to waste you time
Hi I have also seen your Sinden Lightgun Video, and I just received my Sinden lightgun.I have a question, Have you tried using the Sinden Lightgun with a Wii Nunchuk in Dolphin Emulator?I want to play Wii games which require a nunchuk like Resident Evil 4 but obviously if its impossible to use it with the Sinden Lightgun I wont buy a nunchuk.
I never tried that. But if I was to do that, I would probably go for a wireless Nunchuk and use that one. Are those supported in Dolphin? I use wireless ones on the real console and I like them. Played Red Steel 1 that way (like the game better than the successor even^^).
@@Boojakascha Oh I see ok, thanks for the answer.
you are very welcome =)
Great video. Thank you. Is there a recoil we gun or a good gun to use to make one to play time crisis? Thank you
Some of the Wii guns have rumble. The Penguin United Crossfire Remote Pistol for example. Also the Wii Remote itself can rumble too, so depending on the game, the cradle will vibrate :D
Time Crisis is just on Sony Platforms, but on Wii you can check out Ghost Squad =)
Are there any other gun cradles that support the Nyko Wand Plus beside the Nyko pistol grip? I can't seem to find any other cradles that support the Nyko wand plus....Thanks! Great information!
Do you mean electronically? Because physically all the craddles support it.
@@Boojakascha Yes! All of them besides the pistol grip from what i see activate the trigger using a physical lever. Any others besides the pistol grip fire using internal electronics?
@@mattschenkel6629 I am afraid I am not aware of any other cradle which does this :-( It's a pity as the system is great :D
Just bought 2 of the Penguin United controller. Cannot find the precision fx.
What a great find! Usually those are super hard to come by.
@@Boojakascha well I got on eBay and was shocked to find that none of the stuff you were talking about is on there. I did get a really cool peripheral from France that's a Winchester shell that actually reloads with the lever. Some of the shells you talked about or so expensive that I could never justify the purchase. I went on Reddit and just asked if anyone knew any information on where I could get a penguin United pistol, and someone sold me two of them. The even have the Motion Plus on them
Awesome! I am really happy for you =)
I have the P99 - love it!
Aw, so cool! It's indeed a fun controller! =)
3:09 tutorial on how to do this or other way to do this? Also does making and putting your sensor bar this way make it when you point your wii mote to the middle of tv screen it will actually be in the middle of the screen?
unfortunately I have no tutorial, but basically you just cut the bar and solder wires to the interupted traces. About the second question: I think the effect goes towards that direction, but the result isn't perfect.
I'd like to ask something else, too. Are dedicated light guns more precise then Nyko Wand+ and a grip?
Do you mean guns for other systems or just Wii controllers with built in Remote versus external Wand+ ?
@@Boojakascha Built ins vs. Wand+, which among these would be the most accurate?
@@rainbowdash5035 The Nyko Wand+ is the most accurate =)
@@Boojakascha Thank you!! ❤
@@Boojakascha And a last question... where can one get a Nyko Wand+ and a Precision FX? Can't see any on eBay.
I'm looking to purchase both the scorpion vii and the bigben p99, but I cannot find a vendor. Do you have any suggestions?
What I did is checking ebay daily over the course of multiple years^^ Doesn't sound compelling, but it seems the only way nowadays.
I have the italian mitragliatrice and there is not nunchuck on it 🤔. With the P99, The mitragliatrice is the best gun on WII. My only complaint is from the rear of the gun is useless because not adjustable and too short to use with the shoulder. Anyway, play Ghost squad with this gun is awesome.
Are you talking of the Pergiocar3 one?
@@Boojakascha yes
@@ledoudinou I am afraid you are mistaken. On the box the gun clearly states to contain an integrated Nunchuk controller and in Sharkie's review you can see it without a doubt. Maybe you have the wrong gun in mind.
@@Boojakascha my mistake, i checked it, and effectively, there is a nunchuck. I never used it, i did’t see it LOL
Hi Boojakasha, I'm wondering if these wiimotes camera could works with a different ir sensor bar made of 4 leds groups to replace the 2 ir leds groups. One on each border of the screen. I've read somewhere that they can handle 4 ir lights....
Yes, this is possible. You see, the IR sensor in the Wii is used in many light gun projects! Besides the Wii it's also used in Aimtrak, Samco and the "JayBee DIY 4 IR Led Lightgun System". The latter really uses four reference lights! Here is a link:
forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,161189.0.html
I am currently testing such a gun.
@@Boojakascha
Wow cool if you test it! I know all the projects you spoke about! Some are really cool! This special 4 ir sensor bar is really interesting me. But I haven't put enough attention on it at the moment. If you made one, please inform me.
I don't know if it's hard to make but if the accuracy is improved it would be very good! I recently bought the extreme ir sensor bar from arcade guns.com but I am a bit disappointed about it. Maybe, I'll do a video on that...
The accuracy indeed is supposed to be better. The drawback is that (like with the other systems) you need quite a far distance to the screen while playing. I give it some more testings to make sure the controller is perfect but then I wait until the upcoming firmware revision is released before I make a video on it.
As I understand it the extreme IR sensor bar wasn't made for better accuracy, but to make it simpler to use bigger screens. It's in that regard much like the "UltraSensor Bar" by PowerA. I would definitely watch your video on it though^^ =)
@@Boojakascha exactly! this extreme infrared sensor bar was designed for a huge screen larger than 42 inch but it is compatible from 0 to 100 inch (read on paper) my current screen is a 32 inch (I can use both modes: standard or extreme) but I really wanted to test it because I heard that its wide angle IR LEDs give us better precision due to the wide angles of the LEDs ...
Ah, ok got it. Too bad that this wasn't the case :-(
what i need is a C96 broomhandle Mauser lightgun, with full-auto rock-n-roll mode and force feedback,
and removable shoulderstock/holster.
make it so!
Epoch made some great looking ones! They also licenced them to Toshiba! ;-)
@@Boojakascha
i just googled that, "epoch light gun", and the first hit was a video of yours, featuring among others Epoch's system 10...
i'm blown away!
an actual C96 style lightgun with shoulder stock/holster!???
@@einherrjar You can even store the gun in it^^ And the plastic is suuuper nice. I am sure its not Bakelite, but it sure feels like it.
@@Boojakascha
i wish you didn't tell me that,
now i need to own one...
i love the old pong systems and the light guns that came with them.
the best one i have right now is Zanussi's Ping-O-Tronic, in period-perfect orange, white and brown,
with a full-size huntingrifle, with full metal barrel, weighs an absolute tonne!
if you don't own one yet but would like to, i'll send it to you.
@@einherrjar I wasn't aware of that one! It looks awesome! Right now I still have three pong consoles at home I still need to review. But I am definitely interested in lending yours to review it and then give it back in the distant future! Thanks for the kind offer, Patrick =)
Stay save
Thank you for info which one of these gun’s can fix resident evil 4’s A button placement while aiming?
You are welcome =) The Nyko Pistol Grip can solve that problem and also the three integrated gun controllers I have shown.
@@Boojakascha thank you 🙂
I really want the p99 but I can’t find it anywhere 😞
@@jonjuarez8412 Keep on searching on ebay, they turn up from time to time =)
Where do you get your information? I can find no one that says the nyko wand plus is more precise that the wii remote.
Usually I directly go with primary sources. In cases like this (controller performance) I test myself.
@@Boojakascha I'll have to buy one myself I can get one off eBay for like 13 bucks. All I hear about it though it's how it has connectivity issues. I've never really had any problems with my Wiimote, and the Wii zapper feels great because it's exactly like how my actual pistol grip is in real life. But after watching your video I wanted to try all these and when shocked to find it they're not even on eBay. I have never been more Lucky in my life to get my penguin United guns
Can you grip the Wii Zapper without problems? For me the grip is too small.
@@Boojakascha the forward grip? It is a little on the small side compared to the nyko perfect shot. But the way I hold it it isn't much of an issue. Most of the pressure I place on my forearm. I have found that I prefer the weight of it on games that are not designed to be light gun accurate. For instance I love Darkside Chronicles. It has a sight adjustment but sadly does not adjust far enough to get into my reticle. So I sort of use the zapper from my forearm and close to my chest, and I find that I get head shots consistently. But for games like Ghost Squad, House of the Dead overkill, and Dead Space, I'm able to adjust the sights perfectly and use the nyko perfect shot. I'm really excited to try out the controllers you suggested when they get here. I guess that means I won't even need the peripherals with the built-in nunchuck but I really want them. I'm also ordering a Winchester shell from France that looks really cool and works with the game Western Heroes. You've got me collecting this stuff oh, and I had no idea any of it existed so appreciate it. I have a lot of firearms in real life and I'm posting a video that shows the setup I have for my firearm that makes me feel more comfortable with the Zapper. It starts at the 9-minute Mark. th-cam.com/video/3iS2N_PrIQU/w-d-xo.html
@@rickshawjones8591 Wow, that's one unusual SMG XD
Thank you for sharing!
Great video!
I want an integrated gun for the Wii, but i cannot find one to buy in Amazon or Ebay, any suggestion? or no choice to go with a non integrated gun?
Thx
Thanks!
Scorpion Vii is by far the most common, try to go for that one. The non-integrated solutions aren't bad at all. Depending on the remote you will have superior accuracy and precision that way!
@@Boojakascha I got lucky and found a pair of the Scorpion Vii on Ebay two weeks ago for 60 bucks and they work. I was just surprised at how small they were.
@@MrSilksoul I am very happy for you!!
^^ The scorpion 3/Vii guns are the succesors to Walther PPK clones, that's why they are tiny =) Small handed people like them a lot though!
I really wish I could get that crossfire pistol. I can't find it anywhere.
Indeed :-( I assume most people from back in the days trashed it.
too bad 10 years too late most of these guns have gone extinct.
Nah, 5 years ago it worked like a charm to get all those =)
Also for today the video is still relevant. Or do you think it will ever get more easy again then now to get any of those? ^^
Thank you
You are very welcome =)
I like zapper.😊
The real one or the Wii one?
@@Boojakascha
The wii one.
Had two scorpions and the trigger broke on both :D
Good thing you have a 3D printer then =)
I emulate Wii games through the Dolphin emulator with a DolphinBar and I’m wondering if it’s possible to use 2 DolphinBar’s to make light gun tracking better? I actually already have 2 DolphinBar’s so it would be great if you could.
Two bars as in adjustable distance, or as in four reference points? When it's about distance: Yes, just tape one halve.
As in 4 reference points could I attach one DolphinBar on the top and one on the bottom of my TV to get better accuracy? Sorry I’m fairly new to Wii emulation and I assume you can only use 1 DolphinBar so this is probably not possible
@@azrabain8210 You can use two bars as you describe it in a Samco setup. Such setups don't make the most of it though & need a micro controller, because the Wii Remote isn't connected natively there.
An alternative which let's you use the Wii Remote with four points is Lichtknarre. I showed that one in episode 243.
Which light gun game do you play the most? (i play hotd2&3 and overkill)
I keep playing games I haven't played before for my channel. But my current favourite light gun game is Resident Evil Gun Survivour. My favourite series as a whole is Time Crisis. I love the The House Of The Dead series, but I like Time Crisis a little bit more^^
Same i love time crisis, especialy the second game
@@joaquinparedes899 I feel Time Crisis tries harder to captivate the player with the story =) A story heavy The House Of The Dead wasn't made until Overkill.
Witch sensor bar do you advice me to use please ? I have a 55 LCD monitor. ^^
The Ultimate one. Can you sit super far away from your screen? Else you will have a problem^^
@@Boojakascha Do you mean this one ? www.amazon.com/dp/B00769TKWC/?tag=tinygrab-20 . And yes , I can sit very far . (2-5 meters)
@@DrAzTiK01 Your link doesn't take my anywhere, unfortunately. But it's the one at 2:58
@@Boojakascha thanks a lot for you answer. It looks like the ultimate sensor bar you are speaking is only avaible in US (on ebay ). But maybe it is worth to order...
@@DrAzTiK01 You could use candles to figure out whether an increased points distance is beneficial to you setup =)
I’m 98% sure this dude owns a skin suit
It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told.
Have you tested the Dual Trigger gun ? Because it looks quite easily avaible in comparaison to others guns.
No, I never tested it. I don't get why the second trigger would be anything but a horrible idea XD
@@Boojakascha on MAME it would be nice to have for games like Alien 3 when you can also shoot a grenade with a 2nd button.
@@VirtualRobotsRevolt true!
are you werner herzog?
Yes. Yes, I am.
Why is the Wand+ superior to the Wii Remote Plus? Are there any demonstrations that this is the case? Or that the Wii Remote Plus is superior to the standard Wii Remote in non-Plus games, for that matter?
Because they are more accurate. You can test it with any calibration screen using a gun cradle which sports sights. The difference is very notable.
Comment in Amazon :
"Device does not turn on at all, with several different sets of known good fresh batteries. No lights light up at all. Wand appears to be non-functional.
Upon closer inspection of the circuit board inside, it is apparent that the manufacturing of the circuit board does not indicate good quality. On one of the pictures a splashed solder blob is clearly visible (circled with a red circle). Also some round epoxy-covered chips are clearly visible. Such chips are usually produced on no-name factories, and may or may not be of good quality. It becomes apparent why there are so many bad opinions about 3rd party controllers such as this Nyko Wand+ for Wii. It is because of the low quality manufacturing that cuts corners to achieve low price. With such a low quality device the prospect of buying Nyko controller becomes a hit or miss. You might get a controller that works great, at least for a while, or you can get one that is completely non-working, or that has intermittent problems because of poor soldering or solder blobs possibly shorting some connections at one time or another. Design an quality of the plastic case and buttons appears good. Design of the circuit may be good too. It is clearly sloppy quality of the circuit and its components that make this non-working Nyko Wand+ a one-star in my opinion."
I have no trouble beliving that the quality distribution is wider on third party products. That said, my Nyko Wands & Wand+s all run flawless.
@@Boojakascha Happy for you.
Apparently you are one of those who are lucky.
@@TommyTomTomisson did you give it a try too?
@@Boojakascha no.
Hi ben i just come a cross your channel where can i buy one of these wii light gun likes the walther p99 and the crossfire remote control or the scorpion vii
When I made the video Scorpion Vii were still widely available through AliExpress like sites. The P99 is available in European second hand online markets. The Crossfire is rather rare. You would find it on the US site of ebay, but they don't show up often I am afraid.
Which is the best one
Objectively the Nyko Wand+ in any cradle is the most accurate and precise. What you will like the best will be an subjective decision. If trigger feeling is very important to you, you might want to check out the "Pistol Grip" by Nyko or an Wii Remote integrated gun controller. If you value ergonomics more you will have to try out multiple cradles until you find the one you like holding the most.
@@Boojakascha ok thanks
@@Perma5man You are welcome!
Got a nyko wand+ and a precision fx cradle. Also got a wide ultra bar thing. I have to stand so far back and the accuracy seems off at times, maybe as I move a little. Are there any tips on being closer to the screen? I'm standing a good 8ft from the screen just to calibrate in house of the dead. The ultra bar is definitely better than the standard. I'm only using a 27" CRT so the distance sucks.
I wonder if the precision fx cradle is limiting the camera fov
the mp5 is hard to find
Indeed :(
Now is zi time on Sprockets ver we dance....
I trained long and hard to pick up this accent. Like all of you I started with boring perfect US English.
@@Boojakascha I use 2 Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles pistols. I wanted 1 of those and one magnum from Darkside Chronicles, but they're too costly, so opted for a pair of the pistols.
I customized my console, stand and HDD into an Umbrella Corp. red/black/white theme with Umbrella thumb grips on the joys as well. Just painted the base, swapped doors and added decals. Totally pimp. My Resident WiiVil.
I use the Mario/Luigi wiimote set for players 3 and 4, with matching gamecube controllers and steering wheels of course.
I modded the piss out of my console, so the accessories are where my interests are.
The Ea Sports racket/golf club, baseball bat/hockey stick set, DK Bongos, Guitar, Fight stick and retro controllers... I fuckin love my wii. Such an underrated console as far as sheer fun is concerned.
Sometimes I'll just get super stoned and get lost in a random WiiWare title.
The Wii is a badass... you just have to teach it Karate and give it weapons.
Wii is nice. I also love it for watching DVDs on it in a region free manner :D The cheapest way to do it by far (besides PC).
The Dolphin emulator is the best way to play Wii light gun games so you can use your own (accurate) gun. The Wii remote is no fun at all. It's an excellent emulator. Here's me using my HOD4 arcade gun to play the Wii version of HOD3:
th-cam.com/video/nzTnt25j020/w-d-xo.html
XD sure, you are right.
I restricted the video to authentic & legal options though^^
But with your set up, you can't play on lcd monitor I think
So really the best wii light gun is:
Nyko wand+ & Nyko Perfect Shot?
If so I'm sourcing these. will be 80euro's in total
Right now I have the old wiimotes with the hand cannons
Or shall I just use Nyko wand+ & hand cannons?
(Cannot find Nyko Perfect Shot)
If your distance to the screen is sufficient for calibration you can stick to the hand cannon. Is your handle grimey/sticky too? I never tried the Perfect Shot. Just the Gun Handle which has a nicer trigger but sadly no sights. Basically the Wand+ paired with any cradle is a splendid combination! You can use what ever works for you! =)
@@Boojakascha I sit about 4,5 meter from a 60" screen. ok thx I will just get the wand+ for now.
hand cannons grip is okay, yellowed a bit. Perhaps it has to do with how much HAND sweat the handle has come in contact with, hahaha.
Thank you so much for this video. I remember a time when I googled the entire internet for information like this.
Wow that's a big screen =) Lovely. Ha, interesting. My hand grips are almost not usable anymore because of the stickyness of the formed good. It is super difficult to wash off^^
Thank you so much! I am very glad to hear you liked the video!
6:16 You're holding it wrong
How would you hold it else? :D The trigger is in the front!
Come on cheer up man ;)
I am a robot^^
I need one of those light guns
You mean the Crossfire Remote Pistol right? I will inform you if I see one for sale =)
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!
I didn't want to annoy you, i have money and i might buy one myself so dont bother
6:23
You just came here for my opinion on the first party craddle??! XD