KingdomCraft: The mental health movement
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The first song is the music for Psalm 1 of the Genevan Psalter by Claude Goudimel. The lyrics to that can be found here:
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My brother in Christ, use scaffolds. Way more efficient than dirt blocks as a way of climbing walls to build.
@Radiogenwhat cult, the cult of using of dirt blocks?
Wrong! Scaffolding is garbage at high altitudes because you can only bridge out 7 blocks.
@chineseman6580 sorry I’m dumb
You are thinking the right things that apply to the video
Sometimes og players prefer dirt blocks because that's what people did before scaffolds.
I am a Christian who has read extensively about psychology.
I think psychology as a field is immensely important especially in the modern age. Developed societies are changing in ways that are deleterious to mental health, and I think we can probably agree that there are a lot of social, cultural and technological pressures that are slowly driving modern populations insane. I have also both experienced first hand and observed statistically how beneficial therapy and other psychologically-informed practices can be for addressing serious issues of mental health.
That said, I think psychology as a soft science is especially vulnerable to infiltration by agendas that don't accurately reflect the research, and pop psychology-which is, I think, the "obsession" to which you are referring-can actually be extremely harmful because it enables the oversimplification and misdiagnosis of serious issues.
With all this in mind, I think our attitude as Christians should be one of correcting the missteps of pop psychology and reorienting the conversation in a productive direction. I don't think we need to minimize the importance of mental health to do this; it's actually a matter of maximizing the importance of mental health. As much as good therapy can make a tremendous positive impact in a person's life, bad therapy can do a lot of damage.
Yeah it's very vulnerable to be taken advantage of by agendas
@@upside_you_mop Isn't an agenda like a checklist?
@@priestofronaldalt well, more like evil agendas
Whether it’s pseudoscience or science there are some things that can be learned from it as long as it hasn’t been hijacked too much
No God = No Purpose = Self-destruction
Too many of my gen-z friends have given up and have a very negative view on life.
Christian autistic guy here:
Autism is not a disease, is a neurological condition
I don’t think autism existed or would have existed before the fall
@@connorstarnes2895 autism is just one of the expressions of neurodiversity, not a defect or a disease, neither we can know if was before the fall because we don't have any biblical basis according to proper definitions of autism
@@connorstarnes2895 Personally i think it would have... We just wouldnt need to classify it.
Also a Christian autistic guy... Hi
Forgiving yourself is different from being ok with your problems. I think that's an important distinction.
Still you're responsible for your actions. Having depression does not give anybody the right to be irresponsible.
@@kevinclass2010 True but I dont think that's what this dude is saying.
I preface this comment by stating that I am also a Christian.
From what I understand, the phenomenon of subatomic particles changing behavior when observed is actually explainable by science. When you hear the word "observe" you might immediately think of this as "seeing with the eyes" from the human perspective, but human sight is actually the result of light particles bouncing off of things and then being reflected into our eyes. With this in mind you can understand that the act of observing things requires us to bounce something off of them in order to know their position. At the subatomic level, bouncing something off of a subatomic particle will cause it's behavior to change, of course because you have affected it by bouncing something off of it, and so this is to be expected. This does not really prove anything supernatural, as of course we believe that faith is something that can not be reached by logic alone.
Near death experiences are thought to be the result of the brain shutting down gradually causing an altered perception of time, and potentially reality, creating a dream-like disconnect. This of course can't be proven, but this goes both ways. Science is unable to work with events that can not be replicated and observed.
Also the brain is not the only organ that can change itself, bones actually can and do remodel themselves regularly based on the stressors placed on them and that is actually how they are formed.
The implication that mental illnesses are all curable by a change of the state of mind is ungrounded and is potentially harmful. This reminds me of Luke 13:4-5 "Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”
We don't know if all, or even most, mental illnesses can be healed by a psychological change, and so I think it may not be right to make this assertion which could cause people with potentially uncurable mental illness to feel like they've done something to cause it. You may end up being right, but I think that without the necessary information it would be unwise to state this as so.
I type all of this to say that I think we should be very careful about the assertions we make. Saying things that turn out to be scientifically wrong could give people a negative opinion of the Christian faith. You greatly helped me in gaining a stronger faith, so know that I say these things out of love. God Bless.
Hey bro, I’m currently bored revising for a quantum physics exam and saw this. Just wanted to point out that the ‘observational’ nature of quantum physics is weirder than you think. In quantum physics, particles’ positions and velocities are more fundamentally unknowable than just the randomness caused by ‘bouncing’ particles off each other. This is most clearly seen in entanglement, where measuring one of two entangled particles’ states instantly determines the state of the other. This isn’t as trivial as it seems btw, it’s not like putting two coloured balls in two boxes and inferring the colour of the other ball based on observing one ball. So as it stands, there does seem to be a fundamental link between observing a system and causing its wavefunction to collapse. Of course, many scientists find this highly unsatisfactory and the jury is still out, although many potential explanations like nonlocal hidden variables have been ruled out.
Also thanks for your comments on mental health, it’s a very difficult topic and needs to be navigated with care
@@notfirstTHERMALI still haven’t convinced myself of the methods of that xp that showed hidden variables cannot exist.
Keep in mind it's really _interaction_ that collapses a quantum wavefunction. It's a misunderstanding that obserbation causes this.
First off, you’re talking like science can’t be wrong sometimes when science has proved itself wrong many times over.
Second, as stated in the video there are 2 types of mental illnesses, neurological and spiritual. Most people in our age have spiritual mental illnesses not neurological ones. We can easily see this just by looking at how rapidly mental illness has gone up alongside religion declining, hopelessness rising, lack of purpose rising, etc. This is the large majority of mental illness in our age and they can’t be cured or medicated by drugs. They can only be cured by a combination of exercise, hope, purpose, and ultimately God. Wish you the best brother. ✝️
As a Christian I completely agree with your points however these points don't apply to autism do to it having to do with the brains physical structure of the brain and not just the wiring and chemical state of the brain. God made me different and gave me a unique way of seeing the world. I do not see autism( in most cases) as a illness or disability to be cured. Other than that loved the video and I am a big fan of your channel. God bless
Completely agree. I’ve met too many people who look for problems in their life in order to go to therapy for it, and they post it on their social media for attention so they’ll feel like a special victim. Attention-seeking is also a big part of the problem.
I get anxiety watching you fall to your doom.
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I agree with the core premise that the mental health movement is not a solution to the cultural problems we are facing.
"And do not be conformed to this world but be transformed through the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable and perfect will of God"
I think you hit the nail on the head a good deal, I’m a psychology major and going to get my Master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy because I want to help those two dynamics not fall apart. I’d say this generation wants to forsake or completely change what it means to be married and have a family. I agree with most of what you said, I also think that it’s ridiculous to equate every problem as something wrong with others, telling yourself that you’re amazing for doing absolutely nothing, and that it makes us weaker. I don’t think it’s about pleasing the psyche, but rather about taking accountability and learning the physiological and spiritual aspects to a human being so that they can get the proper help they need. I feel like our generation is making everything about mental health and acting like things that aren’t really problems are the biggest issues on the earth. Acting like victims all the time won’t help. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it definitely made me think and I want to refine my approach with this subject and when I talk to others. Ultimate goal is to point others towards Jesus, He can truly satisfy the human heart and give us the resolve to break away from those things. Didn’t know Sigmund Freud was an atheist though, they never taught us that and yet it makes sense 😅
I'm a big fan of the channel and I agreed with much of what was in the video. However, as a Christian with autism I was dissappointed to hear your take on it. Each of us are fearfully and wonderfully made, and for me my autism is a part of that. Part of my spiritual journey has been learning to praise the Lord for the way He made me. Of course this has come with challenges that I need to overcome, but that's true of every human who's ever lived. The Lord gave us all different strengths, so for me my focus is not how I can "overcome" or "grow out of" this, but rather how I can use my gifts and my unique way of seeing the world to benefit the body of Christ.
I think it's an incredibly useful tool as long you come to it for the right reasons. You're right on the money when you say that feelings are not the end all be all. The mind is a tool, and just like any tool, it can be used for godliness or sinfulness, and like a well lubricated machine, it works best with regular inspection and maintenance. The focus of mental health should be on making good use of the mind and keeping it in working condition. Your mind is like an axe. You wouldn't use an axe to cut tofu, and you wouldn't use a dull axe without sharpening it first, and you certainly wouldn't build a shrine for the axe or put it in a relaxing hot tub; you chop wood with it, because that's what it's for, and you regularly clean it and put oil on it to keep it from corroding, and you sharpen it for the next use so it's ready when you need it. Good feelings should be an indicator of mental health, not the goal.
Perfectly said.
That's a great analogy
You overcome your mental health by not playing the victim. Yep. Through Christ we are more than conquers. You were brave. Good.
I agree with you on some things, like what doesn't kill you makes you strong, the heart and feelings are deceitful rely on intellect, and you have to push through challenges, so you don't become soft. however as for men not sharing their feelings. I think that you are incorrect on this part brother, coming from a man. Sharing your feelings with other men won't make you soft but can help you intellectually process what you are going through, having another person's perspective on how your feelings might be wrong or that you should take a breath and move on can be helpful. Because the heart and feelings are deceitful, when you are experiencing a lot at the same time you can make really bad decisions, so having someone that can help you use your head and not your heart is a good thing. Please correct me if you think I am wrong I am open to what you have to say and your criticisms.
I think you have a good opinion here and you’re understanding this in a very open and understanding way. Men should be able to be vulnerable. A man is defined by his values, character, morals, ability to be a father, ability to care and love, ability to protect, and so much more.
I'm Christian.
I strongly disagree with many of the points in this video. There seems to be a lack of research and mostly it's just personal anecdote. If it worked for you, great! God has been good to you. However research has shown that many of the statements you make in this video are false. For example, on autism. As an autistic person, autism is not just "bad feelings oh no." I have a completely different brain structure and that is okay. God has made different people with different perspectives, and that is good. I won't undermine your experiences, as I don't know what you've been through. However, you seem to assume a lot without actually knowing what it's like. Saying "be strong" "do better" "work harder" "think good feelings" is harmful because many people try, over and over, and the pain it causes is terrible. You don't know what it's like, telling yourself you're a failure and deserve to die for years on end because you can't work at the same speed as others even though you've been constantly told you're smarter. You don't know what it's like wanting to die because your brain works differently. Telling people things like "just get over it" is extremely harmful and can lead to issues like suicide.
There is hope in Jesus. This does not mean that Jesus will magically make you all better. He helps, and I find a lot of comfort knowing He is there for me and He loves me even when it feels like no one else does. But unlike what you said, mental health IS like physical health. Not only can the brain not change as you said, but mental health has been linked to physical health in many studies. You can't cure a broken leg by praying it away. You can certainly - and you should - pray for it; that it would heal quickly and that God would give your doctors the knowledge and wisdom to treat you appropriately. The same goes for mental health.
There are a few things I agree with. Society, especially in western culture, has become far too individualized. Everything becomes about "me, me, me" which is a very harmful mindset as it lacks Jesus. He is our only hope and salvation.
Ultimately we can do nothing on our own, we need God to give us strength and wisdom.
not to mention how much evidence we lack to treat depression as a disease, i've been "diagnosed" with it, and no blood test or anything was done to show my seratonin levels, but this generation unanimously agree depression and anxiety are caused by chemical imbalances, even if they would correct themselves and say it's not always the case, they would have to admit it's how a psychiatry patient wwill be treated, ALWAYS. you go to a doctor, talk about your feelings and they prescribe you a drug, and i'm not even gonna get into how horrific this drugs CAN be, yes i celebrate modern medicine, benzodiazepenes for an instance are amazing, but giving them to teenagers who suffer from "social anxiety" is ridiculous, it's insane to see how well we developed technologically yet still dumb.
Thank you for sharing! Since humans are the only animals who get depression (sadness is different from depression, other animals get sad) it shows that depression is always at least PARTIALLY spiritual.
Hi Fernando! Sorry for what you're going through, hope it got better from the time when you wrote this comment.
I'm a physician! I noticed something interesting in your comment and I want to adress it from the point of view of medicine. This is a very common question for people to make. If the mental disorder is caused by chemical imbalace, how come doctors don't do a blood test to diagnose it?
The answer is: they are not CAUSED by chemical imbalace, they are ASSOCIATED with it. Meaning, they often come together, but not necessarily one is causing the other.
It's a very common cognitive bias and doctors have also fallen for it in the past. There's a famous study that proved a strong association between drinking coffee and having a heart attack. So doctors jumped to the conclusion that coffee is bad for our heart, but that wasn't the truth. When they investigated a little further, they found that coffee drinkers often used the coffee break to smoke - and smoking was causing the heart attacks.
Association doesn't always translate to causality! Especially when we are talking about mental disorders, all of them being multifactorial (a lot of things influencing its surgence).
@@redeemedzoomer6053 No.
@@rafamnormandethen what say you is the cause? I believe his whole point is that he doesn't believe that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance. Because that is the widely accepted narrative about depression. I guarantee you if I asked a random secular person about the cause of depression 9 times out of 10 they would say it is caused by a chemical imbalance. It makes no sense to try to treat depression which as you say is not caused by a chemical imbalance by giving a chemical that as you say an imbalance of is not the cause. I have been diagnosed with depression and the pills have done nothing for me. The only thing that has cured me is becoming closer to God. And yet even though I am very much no longer depressed and have not been for years I am still told that I am even though there is no proof of that. I do not ever have feelings of depression, I only feel ecstatic for the love and grace that God has given me.
Yeah I’d only use benzos in cases of panic attacks.
I’ve mostly master my anxiety but not my nihilism and manic depression.
But mania is hella fun.
Redeemed Zoomer, I've been a devout Christian (or at the very least, trying to be) for around 2 years, and a Calvinist in the making since about two weeks ago! Unfortunately, I was also dealing with depression around the same time that I became a Christian, and I always let it affect my life. I rarely did things any more, and I felt trapped, with people telling me it wasn't my fault, which naturally made me feel like I had no control over it. Since I was a Christian, I also knew that God gave me the strength to "deal with it", and thus, I felt incredibly guilty whenever I ended up letting it ruin my life out of my own free will, which only spiraled me worse into depression.
But God gave me grace, and he put this video in my FYP, and you, Redeemed Zoomer, saved my life.
This has to be the harshest video I have ever seen in my entire existence, but its so painfully true when you think about it. Only now, after watching this video, has my life been changed forever. This is the worst guilt I have ever felt in my entire life, but I am so relieved to finally realize I have power over how i react and how I let it affect my life.
No words can describe how grateful I am for you, this painfully harsh truth smacked me across the face and brought me back to the Christian reality, and now I'm finally free from the clutches of depression, thanks to you (and God, of course :3). I no longer have to let my feelings rule my life.
I want to hug you and punch you at the same time.
I do hate how set in stone people act like psych diagnoses are.
The person I know with the dark triad is impossible to be friends with. But he doesn’t even try.
Probs on writing music by yourself 👍🏼
(I thought you got it from Pokémon)
haha thanks!
You wrote the music in these videos?
@@jhoughjr1 yeah look at the description of the video
This video is unintentionally the funniest you've made, like I was laughing along, not because I disagree, it was just really funny you just being blunt.
I'm autistic and I do NOT want to celebrate the fact that I am autistic lol. I feel uncomfortable every time someone brings up that I am autistic. I hate the fact that my mind irrationalizes with itself all the time about the past. The only thing I will celebrate is the hyper-focus aspect of the mental illness.
YES
I'm an atheist and a mental illness expert who has severe mental illness myself. I don't believe in sin or a soul. HOWEVER, what Zoomer says about making excuses for bad behavior (what he calls sin) is something I love. We don't have to *blame* people with mental illness for their actions, but we have to hold them accountable in order to function in society. That doesn't mean punishment or condemnation. It means rehabilitation.
Great video, Zoomer. You gained a subscriber.
Hi there! Fellow christian here, also a physician (and future psychiatrist).
About the whole theme of the video, I know what you're refering to when you talk about the "mental health movement", but you didn't express yourself in a good way most of the time. I think people generally will misinterpret your point here.
I also want to clarify some things about psychology, psychiatry and science as a whole. I know that you meant well, but you have fallen for some common myths in those topics. It's going to be a big comment because I think you value debates and most of all, pursue for the truth, so I took the liberty to give a little more detail than I'm used to on the internet.
1) Quantum physics: this area did not prove the existence of human soul or anything reseambling that in any way, shape or form. What happens is that a group of physicists makes some discovery and people (including the media, that spreads the whole thing) misinterpret all that is said. The "proven connection between our minds and the physical world" is just a complete misunderstanding of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. He discovered that you can either know the velocity or the position of the particles because when you measure things, you change them. People took this as "our beliefs change the world", but actually what is happening is that when the scientist uses light in order to be possible to measure some aspect of a particle, the energy from the light they're projecting excites the particle and it changes its state. We must always be aware and people talk about quantum physics, because almost always it's a complete BS.
2) Psychology: Freud did indeed start the study of the human mind and was the founder of psychology, but, in 2023, his contribution is mostly historical. No serious psychologist uses his work anymore, because like you said, he assumed a lot of things that have no way of proving (and he didn't have any intention for it to be scientifically proven). Today, you don't need to have a degree in psychology in order to be a psychoanalyst (Freud's disciples) and vice-versa, it's a completely separate thing. Psychoanalysts generally hate science, psychiatry and psychology, often religion as well. Not to be mistaken with psychology in its current state. About it being a scientific field or not, the answer is "sometimes", like the field of History. You can see historians using the scientific method to prove certain things (like estimate the age of some artifact using carbon), but others thing they have to appeal to other methods of knowledge (like understanding political movements from the past or ancient languages). Most of the time, modern psychology uses the scientific method and on the situations it doesn't, that's because science isn't the right tool to acquire that information.
3) Limits of mental disorders: Every mental disorder affects our mind and body in different ways. You said that you perceived the disorders as either neurological and/or spiritual, and that's not entirely accurate, otherwise we would have only neurologists in medicine, but we did find the need to create the field of psychiatry. You should think of it as a computer: we have the hardware (brain - neurology), the software (mind - psychiatry) and the user (soul - spiritual area, etc). Even if you have your brain on perfect conditions and you are spiritually in a good place, you can have trouble living because of some mental disorder, just like an average user with a top of the line hardware can have trouble using it if the software isn't doing what is supposed to do. I'm going to further explain that on the next topic:
4) Blaming of mental disorders: Our brain has many properties or functions; think of them like apps (softwares) in a phone. We have memory, judgement, perception, intelligence and so on. Every function serving a different purpose. Now, some disorders affect us in a way that really "controls" our behavior, you listed schizophrenia on your video, that's one clear example of it. If a person on a psychotic state of mind kills another person, they can't have the blame, not even legally. They unfortunately do not have full autonomy in those mental states because their brain function is all messed up, even though they don't have any structural problem on the brain and are on the right path spiritually. Needless to say, people do use mental disorders to blame sins or personal flaws these days, kind of like some people use astrology, blaming their sign. Also, people struggle to differentiate vital feelings from pathologic ones. Some seem to think that all anxiety is a bad thing for example, but it is a vital feeling, meaning it's part of life, just like every other feeling. It's a problem when it's disproportionate to the situation.
Anyway, I think you made some mistakes on your train of thoughts, but nothing too serious considering you do not have the study necessary to know all of these details. I generally agree with you that people are exagerating some serious things about this topic. That's due to misinformation, both accidental and intentional (there are a lot of gurus making a lot of money inventing mental problems for people to identify themselves, turning vital feelings into diseases - and I get how confusing this can be to someone outside of the expertise).
God bless you!
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^^^ Very important points
what mental problems that are being invented were you speaking about?
@naonaocacao at least in my country, we have a plague of motivational coaches that surf on the wave of the mental health movement. And they come up with whatever nonsense they want and call it a disorder - an example being the "accelerated thinking disorder", which doesn't exist. When you look at the description of symptoms, it's just a person feeling vital anxiety, a normal feeling we all have in the appropriate situations.
But everybody reads these and goes "hey, I feel this way too! I have an anxiety disorder" and then give money to this people for "treatment".
I think that seeing something that says you’re worth something is important (especially for young people) for people who are really depressed and feel like they’re life is worthless. You don’t always have good people around you to prop up your mental health especially in todays society. If someone wanted to off themselves would you tell them how much of a sinner they are? No, you would give them compassion and reassurance. They need hope and understanding human sin can only be given to those who are not being manipulated by the enemy away from God’s plan for their life. The movement of mental health among young and woke people is taking it out of hand and basically saying healthy people are sick. Not everyone needs mental health resources. What you need to be happy and healthy varies depending on your situation. Social media is not good for giving yourself self affirmation or solving your problems. Similar to feminism which promotes women’s ego to be first place in their life, getting shallow self affirmation from the internet is not good for you and can contribute to you being egotistical. Same way beauty is no longer objective, you can’t even give constructive criticism or a complement to someone who is self conscious and hold to the opinion that they are essentially flawless because of social media mental health posts. Your well-being does matter and especially women should not let other’s expectations of what they should look like or be like bring their life down. Some people don’t even eat even though they’re already skinny, which is obviously really bad for you. You need to be smart enough to know when someone cares for you or is just trying to use you and you need good people in your life. Humans are social creatures and the death of community at the advent of social media has really hurt this generation, as well as the death of the church from conservative pussies running away. Mental health social media is also appealing to unpopular and bullied kids. This generation cares a lot about helping those who need it but their problems is that they mindlessly follow trends and don’t verify anything for themselves. They are hands down the easiest generation to manipulate into supporting anything just from a catchy, objectively true slogan, without verifying if the cause is lying about their intentions.
Jesus loves you and Satan hates you is the truth. If you have a lack of self esteem or doubts about anything then you need to constantly tell yourself that those are lies. People are either natural pessimistic or optimistic as a part of their personality, which is objectively true. You WOULD tell your daughter she’s beautiful. This is important because I know you’re talking about the mental health movement specifically but the flipside of actually caring about mental health is important and should not be lumped into the same category. Psychology is also objectively true as the study of human behaviour which comes about of our consciousness, God given gifts, and behaviours is simply the study of how human act and interact, as God made us. You have a preference; that is your personality. It is objective and can be grouped with broad strains of thinking and acting with other people. You believe in introvert and extravert which is wholly a part of personality.
One of the problems I have with humans is their purposeful lack of critical thinking. You have a strong doctrine of sin, which is good, but it balances out with the positive on the other side. Focusing a point entirely positively or negatively is wrong. There is always both in any situation or ideology and they need to be acknowledged and understood equally.
Dear Americans and Western Europeans, did Redeemed Zoomer tald really controversial and harsh things in this video? Cause for me, Eastern European that video was one of the softest and gentlest ones (in good sense)
Since most comments here already mentioned your logical errors in assuming “the right frame of mind can solve all problems”, I’d like to tackle a different angle. I don’t entirely agree with the fact that we shouldn’t treat mental health like physical health and that’s for one reason, we learn.
A few centuries ago, simple infections, allergies, even just having the wrong train of thought was treated with things like blood letting to remove impure blood or whipping and so forth, but now we understand how to properly and effectively help cure physical ailments with as little damage done as possible. I believe the same can be said for any field dealing with mental health. We are in the same early stage as a few centuries ago where we knew something was wrong but couldn’t fix it properly or universally. Some mental illnesses do indeed get better with time and a better mindset, community, and even faith, but some don’t, so yes, your argument on that front is wrong. But the more we learn about why some mental illness can be treated with more time and love and why others can’t, why what works does, and why what doesn’t work is harmful, the better it will be for those with mental health issues. If you shut it down now and say “just believe in God and think happy thoughts”, you are no better than Christians who once suspected the medical field and prayed everything away (even if it historically never worked).
Bro you got to do a video on stoicism! I was big into stoicism and psychology before becoming a Christian. Would love to hear your thoughts and issues with it
I would disagree with this. I agree there can be too much emphasis on "self love" and no room for accountability, but at the same time male suicide/lonliness/depression is horrifying. Too many people out there with no hope, no peace, no purpose...
Jesus said "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12.
This is definitely an issue for the church. There are people out there will some real mental health issues, myself included, that have gone to some real dark places. I would hate to be dismissed out of hand because it doesn't fall in line with a faux "self denial". If anything, a Christian *MUST* take interest in the concerns of others and their troubles.
"We love because he first loved us". I agree that we must deny ourselves, serve others first, because we have in us the love of Christ that allows for true self-denial and self- sacrifice. But for those in the "mental health movement", Christ can be the ultimate beacon and help for their souls. I know He has been for me, even though I've lived in such opposition to Him.
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." Matthew 11:28-30.
Never a truer word spoken.
Amen, brother.
Males are not needed in the age of girl power and 100 percent employment of the population
God bless ❤ Praise be to Jesus
I love the 16 bit hymns in the vid! 1:06
06:46 I know this is completely besides the point, as it doesn't relate to mental health at all, but I think that's not a useful stance for a Christian to have about knowledge. Positivistic epystemology (and its precedents) is the root of rampant modern day atheism, as it explicitely states that only a posteriori knowledge can be knowledge at all (which is contradictory by itself).
How can we as Christians agree with such a philosophical statement? Even if we learn the experiences of Jesus, we know God exists not because we have observed him, but we know he exists a priori, through faith, and reason proves our faith (because we can use reason to deduce him from simpler premises, such as Saint Thomas' 5 ways to prove the existence of God.)
Implying positivism in our speech (despite it being so common) is something we Christians should learn to avoid.
This reminded me a little bit of John Mac Arthur's discussion on Biblical counseling in his book. Because almost all psychology is innately against Christianity's principles
Nice! There are many ways in which I disagree with MacArthur, but he is absolutely right to point out that psychology is anti Christian. As for Biblical counseling, I don't know yet whether I'm for or against it.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 That's actually incorrect. As a human science, it's secular at their filosofical cores, but not against christianity. Look that I'm pointing out for their cores because there is no psychology. Instead, we have a number of different psychologies, in which you could find approaches that recognize the aspect of faith as fundamental as other senses that has existential meaning for people, even if it doesn't propose a context for theological counseling, obviously.
@@redeemedzoomer6053CS Lewis has some good stuff on this. CSLewisDoodle
Which book?
I recall a friend of my nephew introducing herself as her various diagnosis.
I thought ur barely an adult how do you know you are X?
I’ve had various diagnosis and I could get whatever I wanted based on what I said.
I used to have bad anxiety that needed meds. I used to take SSRIs also.
Now I don’t.
I realized early on there was no help in the system just people who know what to say and those who dont
I have to say, I will agree that modern mainstream society is going about mental health the wrong way, but the Calvinistic approach is something I cannot abide by. You talk about taking responsibility for one's own mental illness and the health of others (which I agree with), but if the vast majority of us are supposedly predestined to damnation (according to Calvinism), then it's not our fault if we succumb to our flaws, because God constructed our lives to follow that end. I will propose a scenario for further dissection of the topic - Say I succumb to my own depression, leading a life of misery and sin until my end, but you try to help me out of it... though you end up failing too because you choose to abandon me somewhere down the line (maybe this hypothetical me was too needy, lol). According to predestination, you would essentially be pardoned from blame for failing me nor would I be responsible for failing myself, because God willed for us both to fail - that is not indicative of one's own responsibility, let alone a fair and just God. I think the main point I have a problem with is pairing responsibility and a lack of true free will. How is it that someone can be held responsible for an end they were predestined to fulfill? The way I interpret it, Calvinism's view on the nature of free will subverts Human responsibility/accountability completely. Responsibility implies choice, and the ability to choose is an effect of free will, is it not? If we do not have free will, then there is no choice, and therefore no responsibility for our end.
Sorry if I ended up repeating the gist of my argument to an unnecessary degree, I'm just trying to propose multiple forms of the same argument to build upon my overall conclusion.
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@@xplicit.27How?
To me, free will is maybe the most difficult question.
Do we have it? If so why? How? If not, why does it feel like we do?
9:56 - 10:36 My objection is the fact that you used Autism as your mental health example. Autism is incurable because it deals with inate perceptions, that is, I am physically incapable of perceiving the world as you do. I actually agree with your stances on baseless self affirmation (after all, when does self flattery become self flatulation?) BUT. I am not an animal, I am a man. I am not ill, I am myself. I am flawed because I am a man, but I am no less of a man than you or the men around you.
My objection to "autism is bad" or "schizophrenia is bad" is because these conditions are themselves perceptions, instead of "the manifestations of schizophrenia are bad" or "the manifestations in Autism are bad," because the way these things can manifest very much impact our day to day lives. It can even manifest itself in the good. I'm no schizophrenic, but I can attest that how Aspergers has effected me in both positive and negative ways.
As for a cure, Christ knows I've longed for one. "but he said 'my grace is sufficient for you,'" are the words of Paul In 2 Corinthians 12, and so whatever alleviations may or may never come, I'll simply be content. So no, I am not diseased by my autism, and my Autism isn't "a bad way of thinking," because as something that effects the most fundamental and basic perceptions of reality, it was something Christ willed to have done to me.
Addition to about 15:15-15:25: I've honestly liked it when people stopped infantilizing me and treat me like a grounded human being. Thing is, telling me to just deal with it is literally the least productive shit because if someone is going to someone else, they are specifically asking HOW to deal with it, and your solution is "refer to Nike."
Spergs unite! We’ve nothing to lose but our sanes!
Thanks for this. Autism is a difference in neurological structure. As in, by brain is fundamentally different from a neurotypical's and I will never be able to see the world as they do. It has nothing to do with my way of thinking, but trying to think "normal" has just caused me pain. I don't believe that autism is fundamentally bad in any way, but there are still problems that come with it. I've found hope and help in Jesus. Christ is the only hope and help we have.
First, man this comment section controversial . Second, I am a Christian and I am homeschooled for the simple reason of extreme bullying. Not like regular bullying like everyone has, but like one time some high schoolers called the office and told I was a school shooter. I was then cornered and punched. So, yeah anyways I completely agree with this video.
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I've been thinking this for a while too. The whole "self love" thing really feels so selfish to me.
There may come a time where men will believe that there is no crime, that there is no sin. But there are only symptoms of a condition and that there is only Hunger. And they will say
"Give us Bread"
And we will give it to them. When a child cries and wails in pain telling us they cannot go on any longer, that it's all pain and that they are only to move in anguish, mutilation and torment. Do we tell the child to stop their expression? No..we tell the child that not only do we love you and that there is no reason to be upset or in pain and that we'd do anything to listen and help you feel better but we'll also tell the child that they are wanted not from us solely but from God as he loves them without if or any because. How can we expect virtue from those who believe they are hungry we must give them bread. And if they say the bread is of not the candor they enjoy perhaps the crust is not what they wish then we make again the bread and we go in a full pursuit to feed said hunger. We believe them when they say only this bread can feed them and when they eat and they say they are still hungry we will offer the bread of Christ, but it is they who decide to have the bread and it is they who will consume honestly. And then they will be full.
I don't believe we should tell any child, man or woman that they should put away their expression. Would Christ do the same? I do not believe so, and the Moral pursuit is not affected by any Elders advice, I trust the true Elder that made man, that made the waking moon and stars. He knows Pain and expression better than any other.
God Bless You
2:51 I feel you misunderstand the motivation behind messages like these. These phrases aren't, at least from how I've seen them used, meant to affirm hedonistic behaviors. I'd say that declining religiousness is a cause as, most people of our generation know to some extent that hedonism is wrong and they feel guilty about it, but they have no way to find forgiveness reconstitution for these wrongdoings without a proper church.
These kinds of posts are more an act of goodwill to try and cheer up people who are drowning in self hate.
I am sick of every teenager I know making every small inconvenience or issue with some celebrity a major problem that personally effects their whole life. I can't handle the idea of not being able to just count your blessings and move on, but now I think whenever someone says their life is hard I'm going to say to them "Why? Do you have to wear a yellow star on your jacket? Do you get shot if you walk outside your door after 7pm? Are you worked nearly to death every day? Have you had to watch your parents, your best friend or your younger sibling be ripped apart by a dog because they fainted after having to stand for hours in the hot sun while the morning roll was marked? Have you watched a 15 year old girl have to give birth to a baby while she is starving and living on a freezing wooden bunk with 5 other people? Do you have nightmares you will never, ever recover from? No? None of those things? Really, because children your age and younger experienced all that and more when they did nothing to society except be born of certain blood, and they never said a word about how hard their lives were."
On top of this being a compassionless and unempathetic statement, it is also not true. Have you never heard of or read any personal account of the Holocaust?
@@thewarmachine3732 Not true in which way? And yes, I have read many Holocaust memoirs in fact and it is why I am bothered by individuals who think the world ends when the next Kpop star gets conscripted.
@@sophiegarcia5 ...so victims of the Holocaust do frequently talk about how hard their lives were.
@@thewarmachine3732 They do. That's exactly what I'm talking about in my initial comment. How they were going through a living hell that does not compare to what many experience today (with the exception of those in poverty for instance). Obviously there's a lot of debate as to whether life in the 21st century is really 'easier' than it was a hundred years ago, but I think there's plenty of merit in saying the complaints of someone whose favourite Kpop star got conscripted vs the complaints of someone in a concentration camp have very different levels of credibility.
Redemmed Zoomer do you believe in any counseling for mental health? I am genuinely curious because I have made the decision to see a consoler to deal with problems I have had with my dad, and I think that you having not experienced that do not understand the struggles that is causes and that you need to deal with it. That would be assuming you are against consoling ofc.
As a devout Christian who sought counsel to help with a loss in my family, I personally found great value in the counseling I received, and now that my sessions are coming to an end, I find my faith is stronger than ever. My therapist, who is a Christian(albiet a new one and not a specialist in counseling fron a specific Christian perspective), was able to help me move past trauma, regrets, and incorrect beliefs about myself and others, and I'm now in a position to move forward with my life and especially my faith. My advice would be to pursue therapy or counseling from someone with a strong Christian perspective and be fervent in prayer both in seeking and during counseling. I pray that you find what's best for you and your faith, lord willing.
The impression I had is that you were very uncomfortable with having to listen to people talking about your personal experience of development in an erroneous way, which did not contemplate the existential meaning of what you've been through and, eventually, overcame. You may be feeling fine now without any kind of treatment (and I hope God blesses you to stay healthy), but it is possible that people can really feel benefited by the support of professionals who understand the complexity and challenges of living with sanity and, why not, sanctity.
The historical problem with "curing" autism is the fact that, more often than not, you're not actually curing it. Instead, you're just conditioning the person to stop acting a certain way, like how one would train a dog. As a result, the person has to make an active effort to not exhibit those behaviors out of fear of punishment, resulting in high negative stress levels. This is what's known as "masking". If you were autistic, I would encourage you to pay close attention to your outward behaviors and if they correspond to what your brain had in mind. For example, are there instances where you felt an impulse to "tick," but suppressed it?
Additionally, men are not designed to suppress their emotions. Control them, sure, but not suppress. Arguably, this lack of differentiation between emotional control (AKA emotional maturity) and emotional suppression is one of the primary factors contributing to such a high prevalence of male suicide. You're not strong just because you suppress the urge to cry. If anything, it just shows you lack empathy for either yourself or other people, depending on the circumstances. Especially in the world of (non-corporate) leadership, lack of empathy can not nor should be tolerated.
15:30 uhh Nietzsche was the man to coin the saying. You know the guy that also coined "GOD is dead..." just doesn't seem right.
Nietzshe, when saying, "God is dead, and we have killed him," is referring to the "God of the Gaps" theory, which states that everything that can't be explained by science can be explained by God. He wasn't saying this to disprove religion, but to attack a flaw that some religious people fall into that ultimately compromise their own beliefs.
How would Jordan Peterson figure into this?
4:57 I don't see whqt's inherently wrong with cutting people off. If someone wrongs me repeatedly, staying alongside them wouldn't be wise. Not exposing yourself to their wrong-doings isn't about not forgiving them or blaming everything on them, but simply recognizing someone's behaviors and how they affect you.
Surely you can see what a slope that is really. Usually we don’t like people who discipline us or who speak truths.
Easy to just label that toxic and surround ourselves with sycophants which is never good for mental health
@@jhoughjr1 That is true. Calling someone toxic and cutting them off, when they simply expect highly of you, is wrong. But cutting off someone who is genuinely abusive toward you isn't. That's why I said that it wasn't *inherently* wrong.
This reasoning is usually used to justify situations like the one you just described, but that's not inherently the case. That's all I'm saying.
For example, say your group of friends was full of atheists, and they made fun of you for being religious. Would it be inherently wrong to cut them off and find better friends? I don't think so
@@coindorni my friend has asked me like three times now about a cross I wear and it’s a bit weird he seems bothered by it.
I do find as I’ve grown in knowledge of the faith that I have some friends I must distance.
Lol I cringed at 18:30 “As a Calvinist.”
Why?
This is just sad.
Deal with it bro
7:07 bro 7min into the video and it's already too difficult for me to agree with you. First, Freud is NOT the father of modern Psychology: it's Wilhelm Wundt. Second, Freud was a psychiatrist and was approaching the mind through mental illness, which is the most objective character to define mental health. Third, Psychoanalisis, the school that Freud founded, was ALSO hijacked by screwed liberals, which made it deviate from Freud's evolutionary beliefs (such as his support for sexual evolution). Last but not least, the Mental Health movement is not totally depraved of good sense. They ALSO recognize that there is such thing as "self-toxicity", if I may say so.
Unfortunately, bro, we should recognize that all institutions tend to fall astray from their original, noble meanings. This is one thing I recognize in you that is correct: you know that the Roman Catholic Church fell from the propposal of bringing the Kingdom to Earth or whatever propposal it originally had. And the Liberals are now recognizing that the traditional Christian Churches, although being truthful to the Gospel,failed to make the social justice they desire. Who knows?
Also, I missed one thing. Do you read conventional psychotherapy writings? Psychoanalisys is one of the approaches to Psychology that is more deterministic (because Science is all about control). Doesn't it fit Calvinism and the doctrine of Election?
This was a surprisingly poor take, I think mostly because it spent a lot of time on tangents and “I see a lot of people on social media who…” everything you said about the malleability of the brain is exactly the basis of CBT and most psychological treatment. The people who use *anything* as an excuse for behavior are simply missing the point of the diagnosis.
so 2 things I normally agree on you with things you say in your videos and I was fully onboard with the self loathing mental health culture thing but I was disappointed when you held back on psychiatry because psychiatrists believe in using brute force chemical attacks on the brain and seeing what the result is without being able to explain why something will work on the physiological and empirical level beyond a superficial mask of stating basic facts about individual nervous tissue/cells not only is the practice of psychiatry a form of pseudoscience but many parents these days turn to psychiatric medications as a substitute for properly raising their children psychiatrists also encourage their patients to go along with it and pretend to be more intellectually disabled than they actually are and use their diagnosis to get away with blowing off school another thing is that you misinterpreted quantum physics this is a common misconception when people use the word observer i.e. person when what is really meant is that to observe a particle and know where it is at you have to physically touch it and when another particle comes in contact with another particle the its position is certain so that changes the state that its in by touching it zach star made a video that explains it better than me but the general idea was that an inanimate object could do the same thing of "observing" a particle and it would have the same effect I went on way too long of a tangent on that but my point is that mental health treatments/culture is not effective in treating people and that going to the gym and going to church is a better idea