"Her fog, her amphetamine, and her pearls..." With three nouns, in "Just Like a Woman" (said to have been inspired by her), Bob Dylan deftly summed up his friend Edie Sedgwick, the wayward princess of Andy Warhol's multimedia Factory
I had no idea that poor girl went through so much. I've only just watched factory girl and that was enough to end my fascination with Warhol. I will definitely read some biographies on her.
She was so beautiful and hugely damaged before she hit the factory. But it was her misfortune to go from one abuser to another she didn’t stand a chance. I think she would be thrilled she’s still being watched discussed and loved all these years later. RIP darling Edie❤️
You know nothing about Warhol, you know nothing about Dylan, you also know nothing about Edie. You can’t just call people abusers, because you know nothing about their lives
@@catherinehutchinson6099 what "garbage"?That you cant stigmatize people having no idea about their lives? It doesn't matter who you are or what you have been through when you shamelessly insult people. Anyways, sorry if I hurt your feelings, poor kitty
This was OK until the end. Defining Sedgwick as a groupie is just wrong. She was a star in her own right, however short lived. Bummer that the person who made this would demean her like that.
Yes Edie was the inspiration for these Dylan songs He was seeing Sara Lowndes at the time of his alleged involvement with Edie Warhol was the one who told Edie that Dylan got married and she was devastated A good book to get more into this subject is Edie-An American Biography by Jean Stein
Don't forget Joan was still seeing him too, but only because her sister Mimi was never interested in Dylan because she was in love with her husband Richard Farina who was a real folk musician.
Edie was the ultimate muse for creative minds like Warhol and Dylan. Do you write multiple songs about someone who is just a chance meetup acquaintance?
2:55 That's John Cale of The Velvet Underground in that picture with Sedgwick. Not Bobby Neuwirth. Also Sedgwick was never paid for starring in any of the Warhol films and never earned a cent after release. Reason why Dylan kept on her about Warhol being a vampire that was draining her and using her.
Not a big fan of Andy Warhol because of the way he treated his friends?/muses. I love his advertisement artwork he did in his early career but I don't get why people go nuts over his Pop art.
Wow, this may have been your most interesting video to date. I believe Dylan took the Elvis print, not given to him, and he told Warhol it was payment for his time, according to a Warhol biography I read.
Yup. Dylan asked if he was going to be paid for the screen test very well knowing Warhol never paid any performer for anything, one thing he always told Sedgwick about, that he used people for his own benefit only. When Warhol shrugged, Dylan said he was going to take a painting, chose one of the Elvis ones and just walked out with it. Warhol filmed Dylan and his crew leaving with the painting and attaching it to the roof of the car they drove in with. You can see footage and pictures online if you search for them.
If you are interested in Edie or want to learn more about her, join a Facebook group: „Conversations with Edie Sedgwick”. We post rare photos and we lead interesting discussions. Also some of the members knew Edie and worked with her 😊!
I read the song "Let It Loose" by The Rolling Stones was inspired by Keith & Mick's perspectives of a love affair going South. Possibly the Brian Jones/Keith Richards/Anita Pallenberg love triangle. I also read about a strange love triangle involving some members of the band "The Band" (Great band btw- I'd love to see a video about them). There's also the well documented affairs in Fleetwood Mac that inspired the album Rumours, but there's tons of videos about that already. Seems love and loss provide some of the best material for songwriters.
This is why I always refused to go to any party for Tennessee Williams. Well, except for that one I got kicked out of for constantly yelling, “Stella!” By the way, the apartment fire you refer to was her apartment at the Hotel Chelsea and you should to an entire video on all the people who lived there for a time...Janis, Jimi, Dee Dee...the list goes on and on.
American Band (Grand Funk Railroad) mentions famous groupie Sweet Connie and "four young ladies" is rumored to be Pamela Debarres and the GTO's. Plaster Caster (Kiss) is a tribute to Cynthia Plaster Caster - ironically the Plaster Caster sisters claim they have never done a cast of any....um, member..... of Kiss. (I see what I did there and wish I hadn't)
I just recently read Pamela DeBarres autobiography. Also Patty Boyd's memoirs (wife of George Harrison and Eric Clapton) are both good reads. Id love to see a biopic on either, although I guess the story has already been told in Almost Famous. Im almost more interetsed in the groupies/muses than the actual musicians/ artists they followed and inspired.
All these people are grossly overrated. Went in and out of mental institutions? Od and dead . What did they put this girl through? I feel like this is the Disney version ( not the channels fault) of the story . Dylan said Andy would use her and throw her away? Warhol was a creep, to boot. I get a nefarious vibe
This question was worded weird. Even though it said artist l kept thinking musicians. Oh well, I think I read that VF article. Story sounds familiar. Kyra Sedgwick is a relation.
i always knew warhol was weird i mean elton john talked about a private part and when they heard warhol came john lennon got angry but i didn’t know he was a terrible person i should really do some research
1:32’s photograph is actually a model! May not be your fault as you cite an allthatsinteresting link. There are many, MANY photographs of models who are mistaken for Edie even today, and this is certainly one of them. Edie never had the haircut as is shown in this clip.
It's called damsel in distress. In the 60s , the women's liberation hadn't even started. We were the weaker sex. I think men felt more manly and needed for a damsel in distress. Times have changed.
I am almost more fasinated by the groupie or muse.. moreso than the famous musician they followed/inspired. My favoruite books are the memoirs of famous "muses" Pamela DeBarres (the original groupie) and Pattie Boyd (wife of George Harrison and Eric Clapton). Id love to see a biopic on either, although I guess the story has already been told in Almost Famous.
I don't have any more inside knowledge than the next guy, but I would venture or guess to say that "Like a Rolling Stone" was inspired by Edie as well as the "Blonde on Blonde" record. Warhol was disposable with most of his entourage and was a selfish piece of shit. The fact that Dylan threatened to sue is probably indicative of the truth that they were involved. What did they call him in the film? "Billy Quinn"? He probably felt something for someone who was broken and he couldn't help and that book stirred up bad memories.
long ago i read a book in the '80s.... it said that Edie's olde money fam pronounces the name (Seee dge wick) not rhyming w/hedge. And she was more than a model muse hanger-on for Warhol ....He was obsessed wioth her look...and more so her family and her money...She bankrolled the Warhol Factory for a long stretch in the earlier days...Sedgwicks were so that sort, their family cemetery just for Sedgwicks had headstones all in a circle so Sedgwicks only looked at other Sedgwicks post-mortum.
I’d love to see you do a collab video (series?) with Xana La Fuente. I’ve recently connected with her on FB and she has tons of inside info on bands from Seattle and the late 80’s-early 90’s era.
I feel Like a Rolling Stone is undoubtedly about her, the other tracks could quit possibly be He’s not particularly kind or sympathetic to her in Rolling Stone. I love all the tracks but he tends to paint himself as the innocent bystander or victim most of the time. There seems to be the odd wry comment about himself but I find the tone of the songs to be way more critical of the muse/object of desire I find it hypocritical. He allegedly used Edie as a mistress, she was initially unaware that he had actually married Sarah while secretly seeing Edie on the side. Pretty callous if that’s true
I read in one of the many Dylan biographies that Bob didn't even like Warhol's Elvis picture, he just wanted Warhol (who was notoriously cheap) to give it to him in order to brag about the incident. He gave the painting to his agent Albert Grossman who sold it for $300,000. Gene Simmons wrote a song called Plaster Casters about two groupies who made plaster casts of rock and roller's dicks.
Yes I believe the tracks where about Edie and the words are quite cutting almost as if Dylan had his nose put out of joint and in a way had his heart broken? Didn't ever one take from her?
Blood on the Tracks is about his marriage ending due to tension & fighting from the Fame & infidelity. His son Jakob had mentioned that it's essentially his parents fighting back and fourth the entire album. Edie didn't ruin the relationship, he was screwing around without Sara's knowledge for so long. What ended things was one of his groupies had breakfast with her children. That was when she filed for divorce.
Yeah & no male ever married his ideal wife & also had is ideal (if not tragic/self-destructive) piece on the side???? Please! My mama raised me better! Apparently, broken/crazy p*ssy taste best....but NEVER enough to marry. That said crazy works both ways...always??!?...basically WHY is crazy the best sex (ask 100 comedians)?!?!? So, us NORMAL people would've cut that sh*t off BEFORE the wedding...but rock stars (etc) operate on a different level. Seriously, totally believable...no claims on the abortion thing or what that movie claimed, just the basic concept....n yeah come on listen to those lyrics & when that album came out...FFS....n just have gen understanding of men...non-judgemental, just factual....yeah....adds up.
Dylan was GOING to marry Sara when they met, Edie didn't know he was seeing another woman. In reality he was seeing alottt of wemon, Joan Baez being the most infamous. He got married in private, not even Joan knew until he did get married.
I cannot say if blonde on blonde was about Edie only Bob knows that but how can anyone not be inspired or mesmerised by her beauty and her demeanour.. I've been in love with her for decades.. I would love to have spent some time with her
Blonde non blonde was i think about Sarah. It wasnt about Edie but there were 2 songs BOB WROTE ABOUT EDIE..REST IN PEACE EDIE GODBLESS YOU.HOPE YOUR AT PEACE NOW AND HAPPY WITH THE PEOPLE YOU TRULY CARED ABOUT. I HOPE YOUR FREE FROM PAIN AND AT PEACE WITH IN YOURSELF 🙏AMEN.🕊🕊🕊🕊🐎🐎🐎🐎🦋🦋🦋🦋🌻🌻🌼🌻💐💐💐💐FROM ME TO YOU GODBLESS YOU.🙏🕊🦋🌹🐎. BE FREE .🐎🦋🕊
To add to my previous rant. I do like some of Dylan earlier works ,with blood on the tracks being my favorite. Everything after that just flat out sucked.
Hate to say this but I really felt bad that Eddie hooked up with Dylan. In my opinion I think he's the most operated rock star ever. Never met him personally but rumor has it that he is a major asshole as a person.I know that this will probably piss off a lot of people, but that's how I feel. Don't break into my top 20 rock list.
I am a fan of the first 6, 7 albums and I agree 100 with you! That's why he's so good criticizing maybe? Just like Lennon, I heard he was a dick too, and great as an artist! People shouldn't mix the art with the artist! Mao Tze Dong wrote beautiful poetry that doesn't make him a good guy!
I’ve been wanting to know since I was a kid, I had researched that they met before she met Andy and were briefly together until she started dating his best friend. The relationship in factory girl the movie was so cheesy no wonder bob dylan sued,”lady you don’t know shit about shit”, motorcycles into lake,,,
Sedgwick was mentally damaged from the start and all the drugs she got exposed to at The Factory (and her smoking - listen to her cough in Ciao Manhattan) had her on a fast track to an early grave. She had an entry into a career with Vogue/modeling but the negative gossip about her drug use scared the modeling agencies off. She really couldn't act or sing so at that point she had no viable source of income and she just slipped further and further into drugs and mental illness. Also - not a groupie.
Either way. It's close enough to 27. That really is a cursed age if you are inclined to issues. I know I was reviewing my life and what all I hadn't achieved yet. It's really an emotional age. That and turning 30 is traumatic for some. Was 4 me. Now I'd kill to be that age again (of course with the wisdom I attained from life and experience - a do-over. )
I remember those times, and characters, in the 60's with fondness. Now we have mass shootings, homeless people all over, and unhappy unwelcome migrants.
A bit before my time (born 65) but I remember 70s and 80s. It's like we are living on a whole other planet now. I romanticize the 60s and 70s time period Wish things were like that again in so many ways.
Warhol was a egocentric narci but he actually made Edie famous by her coming to his factory, prob is he didnt pay his employees, sad thing is though they decide to stay.....I think Bob Dylan used her more since his intentions with her were all dishonest...everyone looked down on her for the drugs- like if they didnt took some!!!?? Tot bonkers in my opinion...and to say he didnt knew Edie is just wierd if you heard Like a rolling stone. She had more personality chemistry with Warhol, their relationship was very unique but I think the kindest one to her was Neuwirth. Its so weird in Dylans songs he almost gloat about people, sounds like hes gloating over Sedgwicks life in Like a rolling stone..
Thx for uploading. If you have time come watch my cover of Dan and Shay - I'm a singer-songwriter and think you may dig my sound. Really appreciate it!
Whole lotta Rosie AC/DC Fire Down Below Bob Segar (though the actual meaning behind this song has various interpretation, it's partially alluding to groupies as well as other factions), And so many more...
Rocket queen, plaster caster... also, we're an American band had mention of a famous groupie.. I could also see GnR's "anything goes" being about a groupie?
Loved Edie! I own a book about her that is pretty good and I used to have Factory Girl on DVD but lost it due to moving so much over the years! What happened to Edie is so heartbreaking! Everything from her childhood up to the very end! rip Edie! Warhol used her but she also used him so I guess it was fair game!
"Her fog, her amphetamine, and her pearls..." With three nouns, in "Just Like a Woman" (said to have been inspired by her), Bob Dylan deftly summed up his friend Edie Sedgwick, the wayward princess of Andy Warhol's multimedia Factory
I feel one could say that quote was about practically any trendy lady of the 60s
Edie &Andy Yup, it could very well have been about Nico too. Most arrows point To Sedgwick though.
Obdviously Like a Rolling Stone is about her too.
I saw that movie. I felt sorry for Edie. Warhol was a total prick in fiction and real life.
Yeah. Warhol just looks like a total oddball cult leader.
I had no idea that poor girl went through so much. I've only just watched factory girl and that was enough to end my fascination with Warhol. I will definitely read some biographies on her.
He ran Basquiat into the ground as well 😢
A real creepy guy
She was so beautiful and hugely damaged before she hit the factory. But it was her misfortune to go from one abuser to another she didn’t stand a chance. I think she would be thrilled she’s still being watched discussed and loved all these years later. RIP darling Edie❤️
You know nothing about Warhol, you know nothing about Dylan, you also know nothing about Edie. You can’t just call people abusers, because you know nothing about their lives
@@11ll0l yet you are saying all of this garbage to me an yet you know Nothing about me or what I have done seen in my life....
@@catherinehutchinson6099 what "garbage"?That you cant stigmatize people having no idea about their lives? It doesn't matter who you are or what you have been through when you shamelessly insult people. Anyways, sorry if I hurt your feelings, poor kitty
@@11ll0l WoW so much hate and bitterness In that soul of yours . Don’t bother replying to me , I suggest you seek therapy...
@@11ll0l you don’t know them either 💀💀
Hm, that photo of 'Edie & Bob Neuwirth' is actually Edie & John Cale.
I noticed that too.
This was OK until the end. Defining Sedgwick as a groupie is just wrong. She was a star in her own right, however short lived. Bummer that the person who made this would demean her like that.
She literally became a star being a groupie, your view on groupies is limited
she was no groupie!
Yes Edie was the inspiration for these Dylan songs He was seeing Sara Lowndes at the time of his alleged involvement with Edie Warhol was the one who told Edie that Dylan got married and she was devastated A good book to get more into this subject is Edie-An American Biography by Jean Stein
Don't forget Joan was still seeing him too, but only because her sister Mimi was never interested in Dylan because she was in love with her husband Richard Farina who was a real folk musician.
@@celladora31 Good point... I like Bob Dylan but he was a playa apparently... Typical Gemini Lol☺😒
@@celladora31 😊
he wasn't "seeing" Sara, they were already married
@@johanvajse8410 Oh great😰
Edie was the ultimate muse for creative minds like Warhol and Dylan. Do you write multiple songs about someone who is just a chance meetup acquaintance?
Cigarettes for breakfast isn't a great long term strategy.
Only if you want to die young and leave a beautiful, super slim corpse. Cigarettes are great for keeping the pounds off and go great w coffee.
Edie wasn't a groupie, SIR!
2:55 That's John Cale of The Velvet Underground in that picture with Sedgwick. Not Bobby Neuwirth.
Also Sedgwick was never paid for starring in any of the Warhol films and never earned a cent after release. Reason why Dylan kept on her about Warhol being a vampire that was draining her and using her.
Not a big fan of Andy Warhol because of the way he treated his friends?/muses. I love his advertisement artwork he did in his early career but I don't get why people go nuts over his Pop art.
Because it doesn't take much to entertain America ;)
Wow, this may have been your most interesting video to date.
I believe Dylan took the Elvis print, not given to him, and he told Warhol it was payment for his time, according to a Warhol biography I read.
Yup. Dylan asked if he was going to be paid for the screen test very well knowing Warhol never paid any performer for anything, one thing he always told Sedgwick about, that he used people for his own benefit only. When Warhol shrugged, Dylan said he was going to take a painting, chose one of the Elvis ones and just walked out with it. Warhol filmed Dylan and his crew leaving with the painting and attaching it to the roof of the car they drove in with. You can see footage and pictures online if you search for them.
If you are interested in Edie or want to learn more about her, join a Facebook group: „Conversations with Edie Sedgwick”. We post rare photos and we lead interesting discussions. Also some of the members knew Edie and worked with her 😊!
Bob Dylan did mumble rock DECADES before mumble rap was a thing 👌
No he didn’t .
Those mumbles won him a Nobel prize for literature. I wonder if Boomhauer is dropping some deep thoughts if we payed close enough attention. 🤔
She was the first cousin once removed of actress Kyra Sedgwick
She was a femme fatale for sure.
Hilltop Slim 614 Doesn’t know the song was written about her...
Do a video over Lou Reed & his connection to Andy Warhol & the Factory.
edie sedgwick was a rockstar so ahead of her time
Now is the time to do one on NICO. Dylan's song I'll Keep It With the Mine is about her. Some Velvet Underground please.
Love Warhol huge fan of his works, and helped me do art. This I didn’t hear much as i still, learn new things about Warhol.
Watch the Factory Girl movie if you haven't (: Guy Pearce is great as Warhol
You must be young
I read the song "Let It Loose" by The Rolling Stones was inspired by Keith & Mick's perspectives of a love affair going South. Possibly the Brian Jones/Keith Richards/Anita Pallenberg love triangle. I also read about a strange love triangle involving some members of the band "The Band" (Great band btw- I'd love to see a video about them). There's also the well documented affairs in Fleetwood Mac that inspired the album Rumours, but there's tons of videos about that already. Seems love and loss provide some of the best material for songwriters.
This is why I always refused to go to any party for Tennessee Williams. Well, except for that one I got kicked out of for constantly yelling, “Stella!” By the way, the apartment fire you refer to was her apartment at the Hotel Chelsea and you should to an entire video on all the people who lived there for a time...Janis, Jimi, Dee Dee...the list goes on and on.
Sid & Nancy - Nancy being killed there
Bob Dylan wasn't the only rock star Andy Warhol didn't get on with, he didn't get on with David Bowie either.
Lots of famous people hated Warhol, and what he stood for!
American Band (Grand Funk Railroad) mentions famous groupie Sweet Connie and "four young ladies" is rumored to be Pamela Debarres and the GTO's. Plaster Caster (Kiss) is a tribute to Cynthia Plaster Caster - ironically the Plaster Caster sisters claim they have never done a cast of any....um, member..... of Kiss. (I see what I did there and wish I hadn't)
Thanks! I was going to mention Kiss' Plaster Caster but I didn't have the balls 😆
“Sweet Connie” is Connie Hamzy of Little Rock, Arkansas.
I just recently read Pamela DeBarres autobiography. Also Patty Boyd's memoirs (wife of George Harrison and Eric Clapton) are both good reads. Id love to see a biopic on either, although I guess the story has already been told in Almost Famous. Im almost more interetsed in the groupies/muses than the actual musicians/ artists they followed and inspired.
All these people are grossly overrated. Went in and out of mental institutions? Od and dead . What did they put this girl through? I feel like this is the Disney version ( not the channels fault) of the story . Dylan said Andy would use her and throw her away? Warhol was a creep, to boot. I get a nefarious vibe
I love Edie. Yes, I think many of the tracks were inspired by Edie.
Blonde on Blonde is Edie and Warhol in his blonde wig! Very strange people very strange place……
I'm not the biggest Dylan fan but ditching a gifted Warhol painting for a sofa is worthy of total respect.
Yes, He essentially paid $81 million dollars for a sofa, what a genius!😂
This question was worded weird. Even though it said artist l kept thinking musicians. Oh well, I think I read that VF article. Story sounds familiar. Kyra Sedgwick is a relation.
I believe the song Tangled Up In Blue is about Edie Sedgwick.
i always knew warhol was weird i mean elton john talked about a private part and when they heard warhol came john lennon got angry but i didn’t know he was a terrible person i should really do some research
1:32’s photograph is actually a model! May not be your fault as you cite an allthatsinteresting link. There are many, MANY photographs of models who are
mistaken for Edie even today, and this is certainly one of them. Edie never had the haircut as is shown in this clip.
A Sir Doug Sahm cameo!! (He's on the right in pic of Bob between 2 guys on a couch, towards the end of the video).
I think they were definitely inspired by Sedgwick. I will never understand the appeal of a woman who can't get her life together.
Some men like to be inspired of a woman's "beautiful" destruction
@@thaiismmag Yes. It's twisted.
I can. She was drop-dead gorgeous.
It's called damsel in distress. In the 60s , the women's liberation hadn't even started. We were the weaker sex. I think men felt more manly and needed for a damsel in distress. Times have changed.
I can't blame Dylan threatening to sue. Either way, it's nobody's business.
Poor Edie, mental health and addictions really fuck you up...
I am almost more fasinated by the groupie or muse.. moreso than the famous musician they followed/inspired. My favoruite books are the memoirs of famous "muses" Pamela DeBarres (the original groupie) and Pattie Boyd (wife of George Harrison and Eric Clapton). Id love to see a biopic on either, although I guess the story has already been told in Almost Famous.
At one time Ron Keel was supposed to be Black Sabbath’s new singer, then they got Dio. What happened?
I don't have any more inside knowledge than the next guy, but I would venture or guess to say that "Like a Rolling Stone" was inspired by Edie as well as the "Blonde on Blonde" record. Warhol was disposable with most of his entourage and was a selfish piece of shit. The fact that Dylan threatened to sue is probably indicative of the truth that they were involved. What did they call him in the film? "Billy Quinn"? He probably felt something for someone who was broken and he couldn't help and that book stirred up bad memories.
Cool channel! I found you from a comment you left on Breaking Points of all places
long ago i read a book in the '80s.... it said that Edie's olde money fam pronounces the name (Seee dge wick) not rhyming w/hedge. And she was more than a model muse hanger-on for Warhol ....He was obsessed wioth her look...and more so her family and her money...She bankrolled the Warhol Factory for a long stretch in the earlier days...Sedgwicks were so that sort, their family cemetery just for Sedgwicks had headstones all in a circle so Sedgwicks only looked at other Sedgwicks post-mortum.
I think leopard skin pillbox hat was. But with Dylan it's hard to tell
Apparently Dylan took the painting as payment. It wasn't given by Andy. Andy joked it had been swapped for couch. It was worth more than that.
Pretty Thin
she struggled with eating disorders
@@johanvajse8410 ha. I meant the premise
Omg, I was just wondering about this the other day
Not sure if you read your comments but please make more Pink Floyd videos they are a very interesting band and I love their music
I’d love to see you do a collab video (series?) with Xana La Fuente. I’ve recently connected with her on FB and she has tons of inside info on bands from Seattle and the late 80’s-early 90’s era.
I feel Like a Rolling Stone is undoubtedly about her, the other tracks could quit possibly be
He’s not particularly kind or sympathetic to her in Rolling Stone. I love all the tracks but he tends to paint himself as the innocent bystander or victim most of the time. There seems to be the odd wry comment about himself but I find the tone of the songs to be way more critical of the muse/object of desire
I find it hypocritical. He allegedly used Edie as a mistress, she was initially unaware that he had actually married Sarah while secretly seeing Edie on the side. Pretty callous if that’s true
I read that Like a Rolling Stone was written bf Dylan met Edie but the song sure fits her
I read in one of the many Dylan biographies that Bob didn't even like Warhol's Elvis picture, he just wanted Warhol (who was notoriously cheap) to give it to him in order to brag about the incident. He gave the painting to his agent Albert Grossman who sold it for $300,000. Gene Simmons wrote a song called Plaster Casters about two groupies who made plaster casts of rock and roller's dicks.
What is the music in the background thank you to whoever knows
Yes I believe the tracks where about Edie and the words are quite cutting almost as if Dylan had his nose put out of joint and in a way had his heart broken? Didn't ever one take from her?
Blood on the Tracks is about his marriage ending due to tension & fighting from the Fame & infidelity. His son Jakob had mentioned that it's essentially his parents fighting back and fourth the entire album.
Edie didn't ruin the relationship, he was screwing around without Sara's knowledge for so long. What ended things was one of his groupies had breakfast with her children. That was when she filed for divorce.
Could you do a video on The Flys?
Bob Dylan was already married to Sara before even meeting Edie
I think the rumors of their affair are made up.
Dylan married Sara in November 1965 the last few month of Edie in Warhol entourage. So no, he was not married yet when he met Edie
Yeah & no male ever married his ideal wife & also had is ideal (if not tragic/self-destructive) piece on the side???? Please! My mama raised me better! Apparently, broken/crazy p*ssy taste best....but NEVER enough to marry. That said crazy works both ways...always??!?...basically WHY is crazy the best sex (ask 100 comedians)?!?!? So, us NORMAL people would've cut that sh*t off BEFORE the wedding...but rock stars (etc) operate on a different level. Seriously, totally believable...no claims on the abortion thing or what that movie claimed, just the basic concept....n yeah come on listen to those lyrics & when that album came out...FFS....n just have gen understanding of men...non-judgemental, just factual....yeah....adds up.
Dylan was GOING to marry Sara when they met, Edie didn't know he was seeing another woman. In reality he was seeing alottt of wemon, Joan Baez being the most infamous. He got married in private, not even Joan knew until he did get married.
Highly disputed because Warhol was a homosexual. Not bisexual as some have claimed.
Dylan thru darts at an original warhol
I cannot say if blonde on blonde was about Edie only Bob knows that but how can anyone not be inspired or mesmerised by her beauty and her demeanour.. I've been in love with her for decades.. I would love to have spent some time with her
*...not groupies, BANDAIDS*.
-"Almost Famous"
Sweet sweet Connie, in "American Band," by Grand Funk Railroad is a mention of a famous "groupie."
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At 1:20 Justen Bieber was alive back then?
Blonde non blonde was i think about Sarah. It wasnt about Edie but there were 2 songs BOB WROTE ABOUT EDIE..REST IN PEACE EDIE GODBLESS YOU.HOPE YOUR AT PEACE NOW AND HAPPY WITH THE PEOPLE YOU TRULY CARED ABOUT. I HOPE YOUR FREE FROM PAIN AND AT PEACE WITH IN YOURSELF 🙏AMEN.🕊🕊🕊🕊🐎🐎🐎🐎🦋🦋🦋🦋🌻🌻🌼🌻💐💐💐💐FROM ME TO YOU GODBLESS YOU.🙏🕊🦋🌹🐎. BE FREE .🐎🦋🕊
Is JLaW about Edie or Joan?
To add to my previous rant. I do like some of Dylan earlier works ,with blood on the tracks being my favorite. Everything after that just flat out sucked.
oh the Brown Eye...
Um, this branch of the Sedgwick family had eight children, not seven.
I think I know who Mitch Ryder's song "when you were mine," is about. But I ain't sayin.
well, that song was written by Prince so it's a cover by MR (and Cyndi Lauper covered it, too)
But you don't have to say
@@johanvajse8410 Just another crappy pop song regardless of who wrote it.
Leopard skin pill box hat???
Hate to say this but I really felt bad that Eddie hooked up with Dylan. In my opinion I think he's the most operated rock star ever. Never met him personally but rumor has it that he is a major asshole as a person.I know that this will probably piss off a lot of people, but that's how I feel. Don't break into my top 20 rock list.
I am a fan of the first 6, 7 albums and I agree 100 with you! That's why he's so good criticizing maybe? Just like Lennon, I heard he was a dick too, and great as an artist! People shouldn't mix the art with the artist! Mao Tze Dong wrote beautiful poetry that doesn't make him a good guy!
I’ve been wanting to know since I was a kid, I had researched that they met before she met Andy and were briefly together until she started dating his best friend. The relationship in factory girl the movie was so cheesy no wonder bob dylan sued,”lady you don’t know shit about shit”, motorcycles into lake,,,
Sedgwick was mentally damaged from the start and all the drugs she got exposed to at The Factory (and her smoking - listen to her cough in Ciao Manhattan) had her on a fast track to an early grave. She had an entry into a career with Vogue/modeling but the negative gossip about her drug use scared the modeling agencies off. She really couldn't act or sing so at that point she had no viable source of income and she just slipped further and further into drugs and mental illness. Also - not a groupie.
I am so in love with someone that is dead. That just about sums up my luck with women 😢
thats john cale bro
Ask the one child that really wasn't aborted.
Starfucker by Rolling Stones is a cult groupie classic.
You missed the most important fact. She was 28, just like everyone else.
28?
I think you’re thinking of the 27 club
@Van Inhalin If you're referring to people like Brian Jones and Janice Joplin they were 27 not 28 when they died.
Well shit
Either way. It's close enough to 27. That really is a cursed age if you are inclined to issues. I know I was reviewing my life and what all I hadn't achieved yet. It's really an emotional age. That and turning 30 is traumatic for some. Was 4 me. Now I'd kill to be that age again (of course with the wisdom I attained from life and experience - a do-over. )
I remember those times, and characters, in the 60's with fondness. Now we have mass shootings, homeless people all over, and unhappy unwelcome migrants.
A bit before my time (born 65) but I remember 70s and 80s. It's like we are living on a whole other planet now. I romanticize the 60s and 70s time period Wish things were like that again in so many ways.
Warhol was a egocentric narci but he actually made Edie famous by her coming to his factory, prob is he didnt pay his employees, sad thing is though they decide to stay.....I think Bob Dylan used her more since his intentions with her were all dishonest...everyone looked down on her for the drugs- like if they didnt took some!!!?? Tot bonkers in my opinion...and to say he didnt knew Edie is just wierd if you heard Like a rolling stone. She had more personality chemistry with Warhol, their relationship was very unique but I think the kindest one to her was Neuwirth.
Its so weird in Dylans songs he almost gloat about people, sounds like hes gloating over Sedgwicks life in Like a rolling stone..
Grunge lifers don’t listen to Dylan! 🤠. More Alice In Chains ⛓
Why? Staley hasn't done anything in years.
Who’s Staley?
AIC. Layne Staley
Mmmm...saucy.
Thx for uploading. If you have time come watch my cover of Dan and Shay - I'm a singer-songwriter and think you may dig my sound. Really appreciate it!
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Whats a Canadian doing with US presidential ads? Shouldnt there be one about that Castro kid?
Well, we were all wrong!!!
This isn't "Layla". Now kinda feel cheated. Lmao
I didn't know who it was, but I didn't think it was Layla because both involved with that were musicians and this specified artist and musician.
Whole lotta Rosie AC/DC
Fire Down Below Bob Segar (though the actual meaning behind this song has various interpretation, it's partially alluding to groupies as well as other factions),
And so many more...
Rocket queen, plaster caster... also, we're an American band had mention of a famous groupie.. I could also see GnR's "anything goes" being about a groupie?
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Loved Edie! I own a book about her that is pretty good and I used to have Factory Girl on DVD but lost it due to moving so much over the years! What happened to Edie is so heartbreaking! Everything from her childhood up to the very end! rip Edie! Warhol used her but she also used him so I guess it was fair game!