had to watch this for my film class and was honestly impressed with how much information you packed in such a short amount of time. felt overwhelmed at first, but i really commend you for the work that you must have put into this!
You forgot to mention the Sklanadowsky Brothers and their Bioscope, the very first cinema show with entrance fee, viewed by thousands of Berliners in November 1895, just before the Lumiéres.
some claim many of the "great" Renaissance painters used a camera obscura as a guide to paint their subjects; particularly portraits. this claim is strengthened when its observed that these subjects are represented as disproportionately left handed. thanks for this very thorough documentary.
Hi - I have mentioned Friese-Green in another doc I made - please see link I have just added to video description. The problem is there is so much to cover in the history of cinema. Maybe one day I will revisit this documentary and make a proper hour long version or even mini series if I ever get the chance.
Hi Paulo, some people who have asked in the past for the narration and who I have sent it to, haven't said thanks or even acknowledged I have sent it. So it has made me a little reluctant to send out. But I will send you the narration :) This will be the first time it will be translated into Portuguese! :D
The information presented here is fairly inaccessible. As names and dates make up a large portion of the information being conveyed here the lack of a transcript or text on screen to marry the spelling of these figures to the images made parsing and retaining the information really difficult for me. Auto generated closed captions are okay, but they do not get the spellings right on most of these things. Please post a transcript to make this more accessible to all users.
Ruxistico haha :) - I am glad I project that type of authority. I work at a digital agency in London, in project management. Please do also download this narration from Google play - it is free there at the moment. I also greatly enjoy fictional writing and many of the ghost stories I have written are also on Google play.
Great video but a small correction though. Georges Méliès did his first Movies with Stories and effects in 1986 while Porter did it in 1903. It was maybe around the same time as A Trip to the Moon but it sounds like everything began around that time which is not quiet correct.
Hey- Where can I find your citations. I have found in other materials that other people are credited with the invention of the zoetrope. If you can link to your citations, that would be great!
This and a doc called Anarchy In The UK: The New Underground Cinema are my fav, heard that the director was on a yogurt and weed diet through it's making
The links are here: www.amazon.co.uk/Concise-History-origins-Cinema-ebook/dp/B00JV1SJFM/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=concise+origins+of+cinema&qid=1608214276&sr=8-1
Its okay, happy for you to comment. The narration was re-recorded as some people have commented that the audio in the original was too quite and the pace and tone was a little difficult to follow. Hopefully this version improves on those issues! In the new narration I have also made an addition at 12:50, inserting a part about Louis Le Prince - as I didn't include Le Prince in the original. Also at 18:05 I have made some minor amendments to the Georges Melies section.
Zerachiel van Mark Oh no not more of this completely unsubstantiated conspiracy theorist anti-Edison rubbish. Do a bit of proper research on the man instead of believing some blogger’s personal fantasy. Or were you there to witness these events? If so, you are not only the oldest person alive but the first person able to make such a statement based on anything more than hearsay. Incidentally, the camera designed by La Prince was not a practical device and bore no resemblance to Edison’s Kinetograph / Kinetoscope of 1893. If anything, it was an elaboration of the much earlier Zoetrope optical toy.
Edison contributed some great stuff but he was an opportunist and a villain. Anyone who will PUBLICLY electrocute an animal (an elephant) to DEATH in an attempt to discredit a rival's (Westinghouse's, vastly superior and now in use everywhere) technology to transmit electrical power is an asshole. There's no point being pro or anti anyone, everything needs to be seen in a larger context.
Thanks for the input. I can't find any reference in the documentary where it says Joseph Plateau was French. Although you are correct the device was invented around 1830 and a correction has been added to the corrections page on the website: www.motionforgepictures.com/feedback/
I like the slow pacing and lack of attempting humor. U made 1 mistake, saying "Batlleship Potemkin released in 1925 predated the Russian Revolution" The Revolution took place in 1917
What happened to Robert Paul? Melies used his technology, not Lumiere's. And The Sheffield Photographic Company, whose 'Daring Daylight Burglary' inspired 'The Great Train Robbery'? Or Cecil Hepworth's pioneer 'Rescued by Rover'?
Hi Barry, thank you for your comments. I wanted to keep this doc short at under 30 mins and unfortunately was not able to include all the details possible, or that I would have liked to. However, in the future I would like to make a full hour version that would include further details and with much better production values. (Please also bare in mind I made this in my spare time with a very limited budget). But I have also setup a page on my website where I will note down your amendments/feedback www.motionforgepictures.com/feedback/
Barry - Yes, some of the greatest names in the history of photographic images are left out, but it's heroic even trying to attempt a history of the optical, chemical, materials, lenses etc., but I came here looking for the history of the cinema, ie specialist buildings.
This seems to be more about the origins of film rather than the cinema. The history of the cinema is about buildings designed to show films, with no windows, suitable seating, a screen and projection.
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had to watch this for my film class and was honestly impressed with how much information you packed in such a short amount of time. felt overwhelmed at first, but i really commend you for the work that you must have put into this!
wish I knew u to help me with my assignment
Film Is My Favorite American Art Form Of All Time.
This is just a beautiful piece. I am doing film studies and this is one of the best documentaries I have come across
Thanks :)
You forgot to mention the Sklanadowsky Brothers and their Bioscope, the very first cinema show with entrance fee, viewed by thousands of Berliners in November 1895, just before the Lumiéres.
some claim many of the "great" Renaissance painters used a camera obscura as a guide to paint their subjects; particularly portraits. this claim is strengthened when its observed that these subjects are represented as disproportionately left handed. thanks for this very thorough documentary.
Thank You very much for the video, good effort to put together the history in a concise format!
Thanks!
Hi - I have mentioned Friese-Green in another doc I made - please see link I have just added to video description. The problem is there is so much to cover in the history of cinema. Maybe one day I will revisit this documentary and make a proper hour long version or even mini series if I ever get the chance.
What an amazing documentary!
First class documentary
Thank you very much for making video on the history of origin of the cinema.
I'm grateful to your whole team🥰
Nobody:
The narrator: one of the first......
Narration and content was superb though. Keep making more such videos.
Thanks!
Hi Paulo, some people who have asked in the past for the narration and who I have sent it to, haven't said thanks or even acknowledged I have sent it. So it has made me a little reluctant to send out. But I will send you the narration :) This will be the first time it will be translated into Portuguese! :D
I will check this. Thanks for the comments. I do read them all and take note!
The information presented here is fairly inaccessible. As names and dates make up a large portion of the information being conveyed here the lack of a transcript or text on screen to marry the spelling of these figures to the images made parsing and retaining the information really difficult for me. Auto generated closed captions are okay, but they do not get the spellings right on most of these things. Please post a transcript to make this more accessible to all users.
absolutely brilliant!
Thanks! :)
can I ask what your profession might be? You sound a lot like my professor in the history of cinema.
Ruxistico haha :) - I am glad I project that type of authority. I work at a digital agency in London, in project management. Please do also download this narration from Google play - it is free there at the moment. I also greatly enjoy fictional writing and many of the ghost stories I have written are also on Google play.
Ruxistico play.google.com/store/books/details/Chris_J_Mitchell_A_Concise_History_of_the_Origins_?id=o7UnAwAAQBAJ
You've left out William Friese-Green who preceded & influenced W.L. Dickson on the Kinetograph...
Very well done!
I was under the impression Muybridge used 24 cameras in his experiment for Stanford...
Great video. Very interesting.
thanks! :)
Very cool.
This is a wonderful explanation of how cinema started and shows that you have a real love for the art form.
No, it's about the origins of photography, chemistry, images and materials. Cinemas are buildings.
@@mrsbrownandhercat Cinema has two definitions
Great video but a small correction though. Georges Méliès did his first Movies with Stories and effects in 1986 while Porter did it in 1903. It was maybe around the same time as A Trip to the Moon but it sounds like everything began around that time which is not quiet correct.
Good stuff. :)
Thank you Viking2Go
Thanks. I learnt a lot from your video
Hey- Where can I find your citations. I have found in other materials that other people are credited with the invention of the zoetrope. If you can link to your citations, that would be great!
For the zoetrope I think it was wikipedia.
The evolution of motion picture is explained in half n hour ; simple & neat narration - Thank you :)
Thanks :)
This and a doc called Anarchy In The UK: The New Underground Cinema are my fav, heard that the director was on a yogurt and weed diet through it's making
Can you please share the transcript in a comment, The link dosent work in my country and thank you
The links are here: www.amazon.co.uk/Concise-History-origins-Cinema-ebook/dp/B00JV1SJFM/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=concise+origins+of+cinema&qid=1608214276&sr=8-1
and here - play.google.com/store/books/details/Chris_J_Mitchell_A_Concise_History_of_the_Origins?id=o7UnAwAAQBAJ
Its okay, happy for you to comment. The narration was re-recorded as some people have commented that the audio in the original was too quite and the pace and tone was a little difficult to follow. Hopefully this version improves on those issues!
In the new narration I have also made an addition at 12:50, inserting a part about Louis Le Prince - as I didn't include Le Prince in the original. Also at 18:05 I have made some minor amendments to the Georges Melies section.
truly
I have this suspicion that Edison was somehow responsible for Prince's disappearance. It wouldnt be the first time...
It's possible but there is no evidence connecting Edison to Prince's disappearance. So it's all very mysterious.
Zerachiel van Mark
Oh no not more of this completely unsubstantiated conspiracy theorist anti-Edison rubbish. Do a bit of proper research on the man instead of believing some blogger’s personal fantasy. Or were you there to witness these events?
If so, you are not only the oldest person alive but the first person able to make such a statement based on anything more than hearsay.
Incidentally, the camera designed by La Prince was not a practical device and bore no resemblance to Edison’s Kinetograph / Kinetoscope of 1893. If anything, it was an elaboration of the much earlier Zoetrope optical toy.
Edison contributed some great stuff but he was an opportunist and a villain. Anyone who will PUBLICLY electrocute an animal (an elephant) to DEATH in an attempt to discredit a rival's (Westinghouse's, vastly superior and now in use everywhere) technology to transmit electrical power is an asshole. There's no point being pro or anti anyone, everything needs to be seen in a larger context.
QUT learning material
Origin of Indian cinema?
Joseph Plateau was Belgian, not French !! He invented the Fenakistiscoop around 1830, not 1849.
Thanks for the input. I can't find any reference in the documentary where it says Joseph Plateau was French. Although you are correct the device was invented around 1830 and a correction has been added to the corrections page on the website: www.motionforgepictures.com/feedback/
I like the slow pacing and lack of attempting humor. U made 1 mistake, saying "Batlleship Potemkin released in 1925 predated the Russian Revolution" The Revolution took place in 1917
What happened to Robert Paul? Melies used his technology, not Lumiere's. And The Sheffield Photographic Company, whose 'Daring Daylight Burglary' inspired 'The Great Train Robbery'? Or Cecil Hepworth's pioneer 'Rescued by Rover'?
Hi Barry, thank you for your comments. I wanted to keep this doc short at under 30 mins and unfortunately was not able to include all the details possible, or that I would have liked to. However, in the future I would like to make a full hour version that would include further details and with much better production values. (Please also bare in mind I made this in my spare time with a very limited budget). But I have also setup a page on my website where I will note down your amendments/feedback www.motionforgepictures.com/feedback/
Barry - Yes, some of the greatest names in the history of photographic images are left out, but it's heroic even trying to attempt a history of the optical, chemical, materials, lenses etc., but I came here looking for the history of the cinema, ie specialist buildings.
Truly, no offense intended, but..... between the original and "improved" narration, I think it would be hard to award the most boring one.
A freakin arab developed cameras!!!!!!!9
Not to be rude but what's the point on this "new narration"?
This seems to be more about the origins of film rather than the cinema. The history of the cinema is about buildings designed to show films, with no windows, suitable seating, a screen and projection.
I prefer the original narration. It sounds less droning, more expressive. Also, some of us guys want to hear the voice of a beautiful woman.
If the narrator's tired speaking voice could be encapsulated, there'd be no need for Sominex. Yawn.
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