Someone did the math with the pay to win you can do and in order to get close to end game with just spending is like 1400 but you still need to farm for certain mats because there are alot of mats for enhancing that can't be traded and aren't sold on the shop. It's not bad imo. I'm not to worried because Amazon cares alot about the bottom line and they have shown that they want their games to last a loooooong time rather then act like the other companies that pump and dump their games, milk then let it die. Amazon has shown they encourage longevity with Lost Ark, and New World was flounding so they decided to pull a FFXIV and completely redo the experience hoping it makes players come back and stick around, rather then letting it just die. And I feel the same with Throne and Liberty, all the big changes didn't happen to make the game better till Amazon bought it and I think forced them to make a actual MMORPG that would appeal to western markets. People can say what they want about Amazon, but I think their nose for wanting repeat business and money will actually be a good thing for their MMOs.
My man. I looked forward to playing Lost Ark for years, ever since I saw the first trailer before it came out in KR. Once it came out it was incredible and so much fun, until we all hit endgame and saw the P2W. For a while most of us lived in denial until more and more updates came out making P2W even worse especially for new players who needed to catch up and it was painful for them because the community refused to help new players learn dungeons/raids. Now the game is at 20k active players daily where most of those are probably bots (which is a big problem) and the rest are people who played since beginning with a couple new players every now and then. I wouldn't say that is a good job on Amazons part. The devs for TL said they let Amazon decide the monetization for global version and its future, right now they have just copy pasted it but we shall see what they do in the future but looking at Lost Ark they have no good merits for you to trust they will handle this well, unless they leartn from their mistakes. Also recent updates have made P2W even worse in TL. Keep expectations low, play it and see if you enjoy it but don't expect much or you will most likely be dissappointed. This game has more issues than P2W such as a no class system and PvP gear is based off your normal gear it's not seperate meaning P2W will shine through even more.
Amazon sucks, Lost Ark is full of BOTS and is totally P2W, New World's revamp is nothing more than a cash grab for consoles. I have over 1000 hours in both so, having said that they are both worth playing to the end game as you'll get good value for your money, after that... nothing. This will most likely be the same.
Even if its a bit pw2, im still hyped for this. I love the static combat tab target, game looks amazing. Like Kanon said, it's a rock paper scissors in terms of classes. You can have a juiced out melee, but if you're a mage you'll nuke him. Absolute hyped for 1st Oct. I hear NCSoft has a new leader that's making good changes so far so let's see how it will go.
@@impatxent Not to mention that whales don't pay the in-game store... they pay US in the Auction House... sorry but if you sell one fucking Archboss weapon to anyone you'll have over 1500$ worth of lucent to spend, which means you will instantly max EVERYTHING ELSE and just keep farming for the Archboss weapon you want... the market of the game is insanely fair... the ones who play the game more frequently and more hours will be making a ton of money and lucent by simply selling their shit...
Congrats for your research and your video. Being a guy spitting the truth about this game is rare. Keep up the good work and I hope you have a blast on release!
yep this. Ill never play a korean pay to upgrade, high chance to fail unless you swipe mmo ever again. Theres a reason Archage failed, those same reasons seem to be in this game, On top of that theres also Optional monthly sub $10, Monthly Battlepass $20,
Thank you for the video...the last i had heard about this game was the atrocious auto-play launch from last year so when I started hearint hype about it this week i was so confused about why it was back on the radar...im crossing my fingers that this turns out good, but for me the combat will really be the biggest "make or break" moment for me...guess we'll see what happens 🤞🏼
Also, please let everyone know that unlike other Korean MMOs this game doesn't have RNG in it's progress system... the only RNG is that you can get a critical roll on your enhancement to progress FASTER if you're lucky but you'll never ever fail completely and be stuck or even throw you back like BDO does with it's enhancements... you'll never feel that BDO desperation of "I'm done with this shit... I've failed the enhancement 50 times and been stuck trying to get this fucking weapon to TET from TRI for 2 months" which is HUGE for me cause I love Korean MMO visuals, combat and how amazing they make high fantasy look but I absolutely DESPISE their godawful enhancement systems that are made for Korean psychopaths that waste hundreds of hours starting over again and again every time the game fucks them...
@@legion8328 I stopped playing it when I realized that to even try to play PvP without selling my kidneys I would have to dedicate half my life to it AND be insanely lucky... I just quit and I only re-downloaded it every few months to get a couple of new classes to Awakening and check them out without any competitive aspirations... BDO was cancerously bad and even a pity system doesn't save it... the fact that the game throws you back in progress (going from TET to TRI on a failure and can even go to DUO or PRI if you fail a lot) is toxic and only Korean brainless bots can tolerate that shit... any game that has backwards progress is instantly terrible and I don't care what the gameplay looks like if the game wastes hours and days and months of my time... period... Backwards progress should be an instant ban for the whole product cause it's literally child abuse cause you're literally giving kids mental illness with the rage your purposely inducing...
Some from of archetypes based on the armor type you choose to go for in order to counteract the excessive use of SNS should be something they should consider tbh, Cause it should be something that frontline tanks using heavy armor benefit from the most imo. I was not a fan of the one that archeage used necessarly and not the one NW used either but some from of "punishment" should be there based on armor types, Solid vid tho I wrote this off as a complete DoA at first prior to the combat spec update, But now having played and experience it my self it for sure to improve the feel of combat quite drastically but there are obviously still work to be done surrounding balance and gear progression in order to solidify it as a good alternative, But we'll see for once it feels like NC actually are in a position now where they are actually listening.
My biggest concern is as a SOLO player, what's to prevent or dissuade other players from grouping up and pvping me when they're high level and im still a noob? Are there any systems that protect solo players from being constantly ganked?
@@leandrodmsi It drops from the arch bosses that guilds have to kill, so the guild either gives it to one of their players ( which is what generally happens, that player can then sell it on the AH if they want ) or the guild can sell it on the AH. If the Guild sells it on the AH the GL can decide on how the Lucent is split between members and typically they will set it up so everyone who was there for the raid gets some of the payout if they decide to sell it. They are expensive because they are so good, dont drop often ( as the boss doesnt spawn often ), and because Guilds will rarely sell them. Either way though, everyone on the AH has to come from players first.
There's a whole video about that :l 20 people out of 5000 having those weapons barely makes a difference in actuality. They're just useless chase items lmao 99.9% of the playerbase are not going to be affected by them.
The P2W doesn't bother me nearly as much as the possibility of bots. I understand they did something about it months ago, but haven't heard anything since.
The tab-targeting combat is frustrating. constant clicks to select enemies and often resulting in distance issues.. although switching to Action Mode with a USB controller helps. The inventory system lacks a search function, making item retrieval tedious as I have to hover over each item. The loadout system is overly complex; switching weapons requires a full manual reset of the loadout, which is impractical during combat. Additionally, the mandatory shapeshifting mount features feel unnecessary and should be optional. Overall, I got bored at level 22 and went back to my comfort home MMO Guild Wars 2
I played the last beta test and it sucked, I'm sad there will be no more good mmorpgs.. ppl hyping this shit up is the problem with the gaming industry, srsly - why would they develop good games when people buy this crap or games that are not even finished nowadays?
Yea sorry about the volume I changed my audio settings up so future videos should be fine didnt notice since for me i listen to everything pretty low and it sounds loud for me
The last big release I played from ncsoft was Aion, if this is anything like Aion the dungeons will be quite good. Im betting on some very memorable music as well.
Really good video, subscribed for sure! But my friend, NCSoft is like blizzard, they have great ideas, but really bad management... What they are doing now is making the game better for sure, but It's now more pay to win than it was on release, because of the rune system. NCSoft lost money on this game, they're just trying to get it back somehow, they already started to stab deeper with the p2w knife, little by little it'll be like Lineage 2, Blade & Soul and Aion... All good games but with really bad management. I hope I'm wrong, I really do, because I like this game. But a game focused on PVP that is gear based, can't have p2w, It'll die if they don't make the changes needed. Normally they do, but just when it's too late.
To be honest the game swung and leaned more into PvE in more recent updates. There is a rune system in T2 with Challenge dungeons similar to WoW's Mythics with mechanics being added on every few levels and rotating out every week. Its the main way to get runes to gear up more and you spam these all day essentially if you want to since the runes aren't timegated how normal dungeon runs are but for global that will be rolling out later.
I like it, it is something not many other mmo's (if any) have done. Personally i think it makes the movement system more fresh instead of just your typical mmo mount.
7 weapons each with 10 different active skills plus 2 blocks and 8 passive skills. That's per weapon and you can use 12 active, 8 passive plus 1 block while holding any 2 weapons. Then you have a different tree to increase damage or change damage type or effect of the abilities with its own skill points to select a tree you like making the same great sword go from aoe to single target or dragger from poison to lightning dmg as an example. It is very much a new alts for new weapons though. You have to specialize in 2 only as much as it seems like you don't.
@@AlbinoImpire Sounds like a good bit of choices. Just seems like most players would pick whatever is best for the activity. I could see organized players running the same exact setup to maximize efficiency. Recently i been playing gw2 and the shear amount of abilities and choice variety is insane. 13 weapons 4 offhands all unique depending on your class. Then class skills plus all your elite specializations. Even with all the variety the game has a best build for all the classes.
@@guixanyrActually NCSoft said they will add more weapons in the future, for example the Spear sometime at the end of the year and they are missing dualswords, blunt and fist weapons so maybe they will add all of that.
There's a lot more depth to the game than just choice of weapons, specific gear, traits, skill expressions etc. all matter. Five people could run the same weapons and yet different playstyles because of this. Plus they'll add more weapons in the future.
im gonna playing too,but let be honest i watch yesterday Kanon video he explain about p2win/progress i mean 80% of stuff you can pay it what is really bad and question is how long game can survive! I dont understand an thing why NC Soft spend alot of time on the game,give alot of new features i mean doing nice job if you FUCK UP everything with p2win?!This lucent system is bullshit and they need to remove competly in market shop and put only GOLD option for buy everything!
Yeah, it might’ve improved, but its still a KR mmo, with A LOT of mob grinding to level up, and dailys that take up to 2 hours to complete every day.. and with that, its pay to win. Very bad for PvP mmo. A no thanks from me.
Lost Ark was P2W from the shop unlike this where you have to pay OTHER PLAYERS to buy everything from them and give them free money essentially... and New World was BUY TO PLAY and it was DEVELOPED by amazon, not published which means the movement and combat systems were absolute trash which made the moment to moment fun be godawful which is why it died... New World died cause it was a trash, half baked action MMO, not cause it was P2W... This game actually looks very very sustainable for players who plan to make it their main game and enjoy it long term
@@sportschool3537 New World died because of the lack of direction and endgame. It runs pretty fine, and the combat is way better than the "press 1 then 2 then 3" tab target most mmos have. It has one of the most refined and satisfying life skilling actions (chopping down trees and watching them fall, way better than BDO or wow). Everyone just hit level 60 on new world and quit, as there was not much else to do. Base game is incredible, they just need some actual endgame content and more pvp focused events, as it was advertised from the start.
@@spookyclaws5350 The combat is trash with floaty and clunky animations that look like they were made by a first year college student with zero experience... the fact that combat system is tab target doesn't make it worse... a dogshit action combat is way worse than a great tab target... the fact that YOU don't like tab target is irrelevant... but you're so entitled that you can't see further than your nose... and the fact that you think that the combat of New World is good when it's OBJECTIVELY godawful as an action combat system means your opinion my dear entitled snowflake is completely irrelevant cause you have zero knowledge on the subject...
Till this day I still with the game had stuck with the Lineage Eternal vision with the top down action combat, it would've been great to have other games that play or feel like Lost Ark
There's a very hard limit for p2w in this game. Around 1500$ is when progression stops from money. A f2p can match that within a month or less if they're minmaxing.
It isn't P2W by any definition unless your definition is "Time is P2W" Unless you can purchase an advantage that is otherwise unobtainable by simply playing the game, it isn't P2W. IE Max refine +10, cash shop has +15. That's P2W. Paying for in-game currency is nothing. Every MMO has that. Good MMOs are just finally taking advantage of it to benefit the game instead of chinese gold farmers.
all you wnat bud, the combat is shit. so it will be with as of creations. so yeah. mmorpg just suck nowadays. blue protocol was the only one with potential, if it wasnt so miss-managed.
To say all of that then say Blue Protocol had potential is ridiculous you should not be allowed to have opinions. Blue Protocols combat is infinitely worse than Throne & Liberty.
@@sanguin3 yeah but I played BDO for the combat AND tribal style open world pvp and node wars. The combat alone doesn’t t keep me playing, and they ruined pvp. I like competition, not king of the hill FFA.
The saddest part about this game is the limited pvp, its immensly catered towards casuals. I moss the lineage 2 days where you battled for farming spots, or had 1v1 2v2 3v3 4v4 in the open worlds. Now its all a safe zone for the soft players. It sucks. I was really looking forward for this game to be the next replacement of lineage 2
Yeah, but I can say that about every single MMO on the market, being a great MMO is a thing of the past. We’re so desperate being functional is basically being competitive
@@amirbouhouche1716 last few year there less and less content to due in these type of game they lost all control working to the best end game fun , now all that is there is end game only . like FF14 dont like every thing in the game but you know you will plenty to due and be around for more then 6 months
@@littlefoot2869 There are a bunch of dungeons and raids, plus unlike FFXIV (whose combat is HORRIFICALLY BORING outside of end game dungeons and raids) this game is PvP focused, so the content is revolving hugely around the PvP events which if you don't like PvP at all, sorry but this is not for you... and honestly traditional MMOs are not FFXIV which is a glorified solo game with tiny multiplayer functions... in traditional MMOs you either socialize or leave the game cause it's a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE RPG GAME... sorry but being in a server with thousands of people and playing completely solo is the dumbest thing I can think of... The whole point of MMOs are the big guilds, the big castle sieges, the big battles for supremacy and the socializing with other people that are fun to play with... just jump into a few guilds and when you find one that seems they want to play the game for real and that feels like a good vibe to be around when playing stick with it...
You can’t play this game to a competitive level with a uk/us ping . Don’t even bother . This guys just a bot and has no idea the impact it will have on his end game . Don’t waste your money ❤
@@mawouel9606 Seriously... are these people for real??? I mean just look up the game on Steam and the first thing you see is RELEASING ON FUCKING OCTOBER 1ST!!! People these days don't bother to waste 5 seconds to click twice to learn anything about anything...
It's just as P2W as WoW while being F2P and not making you pay 180$ a year to play plus charging you 60$ for every expansion... plus yes, you can buy everything from the Auction House... but you're paying other players... so if a whale buys 2000$ worth of things from the Auction House, 1600$ (the other 20% is in game tax) go to F2P players who have listed those items and can use all that sweet free money to gear up themselves... so in reality it's a free market where the spenders literally sustain the F2P grinders... So all in all, it's NOT that bad... it's bad if you're a casual player, but if you REALLY like MMOs and want to be a top player in it you can 100% do it as a F2P player if you start from day 1
Someone did the math with the pay to win you can do and in order to get close to end game with just spending is like 1400 but you still need to farm for certain mats because there are alot of mats for enhancing that can't be traded and aren't sold on the shop. It's not bad imo. I'm not to worried because Amazon cares alot about the bottom line and they have shown that they want their games to last a loooooong time rather then act like the other companies that pump and dump their games, milk then let it die. Amazon has shown they encourage longevity with Lost Ark, and New World was flounding so they decided to pull a FFXIV and completely redo the experience hoping it makes players come back and stick around, rather then letting it just die. And I feel the same with Throne and Liberty, all the big changes didn't happen to make the game better till Amazon bought it and I think forced them to make a actual MMORPG that would appeal to western markets. People can say what they want about Amazon, but I think their nose for wanting repeat business and money will actually be a good thing for their MMOs.
My man.
I looked forward to playing Lost Ark for years, ever since I saw the first trailer before it came out in KR. Once it came out it was incredible and so much fun, until we all hit endgame and saw the P2W. For a while most of us lived in denial until more and more updates came out making P2W even worse especially for new players who needed to catch up and it was painful for them because the community refused to help new players learn dungeons/raids.
Now the game is at 20k active players daily where most of those are probably bots (which is a big problem) and the rest are people who played since beginning with a couple new players every now and then. I wouldn't say that is a good job on Amazons part.
The devs for TL said they let Amazon decide the monetization for global version and its future, right now they have just copy pasted it but we shall see what they do in the future but looking at Lost Ark they have no good merits for you to trust they will handle this well, unless they leartn from their mistakes.
Also recent updates have made P2W even worse in TL.
Keep expectations low, play it and see if you enjoy it but don't expect much or you will most likely be dissappointed.
This game has more issues than P2W such as a no class system and PvP gear is based off your normal gear it's not seperate meaning P2W will shine through even more.
Amazon sucks, Lost Ark is full of BOTS and is totally P2W, New World's revamp is nothing more than a cash grab for consoles. I have over 1000 hours in both so, having said that they are both worth playing to the end game as you'll get good value for your money, after that... nothing. This will most likely be the same.
Facts@@Manawar
Is this Amazon game? Not NCSoft?
sounds 100x better than black desert, and bdo has been going for yeaaars
Even if its a bit pw2, im still hyped for this. I love the static combat tab target, game looks amazing. Like Kanon said, it's a rock paper scissors in terms of classes. You can have a juiced out melee, but if you're a mage you'll nuke him. Absolute hyped for 1st Oct. I hear NCSoft has a new leader that's making good changes so far so let's see how it will go.
also whales keep the game alive while we play totally for free lol
@@impatxent Not to mention that whales don't pay the in-game store... they pay US in the Auction House... sorry but if you sell one fucking Archboss weapon to anyone you'll have over 1500$ worth of lucent to spend, which means you will instantly max EVERYTHING ELSE and just keep farming for the Archboss weapon you want... the market of the game is insanely fair... the ones who play the game more frequently and more hours will be making a ton of money and lucent by simply selling their shit...
"A bit" 😂
Congrats for your research and your video.
Being a guy spitting the truth about this game is rare. Keep up the good work and I hope you have a blast on release!
You got yourself a subscriber, keep it up man
Good job at the video buddy, keep on bringing good content! Subbed 👌
nice video man, I played one of the betas and I will give it a shot on launch
If you played Arch Age you know what's going on here.
If u played linage u know what’s going on here
yep this. Ill never play a korean pay to upgrade, high chance to fail unless
you swipe mmo ever again. Theres a reason Archage failed, those same reasons seem to be in this game, On top of that theres also Optional monthly sub $10, Monthly Battlepass $20,
@@someguy1295 where did you saw "high chance to fail" in TL?
@@rshifttt im talking about the above archage comment & archage game as its my reference to korean mmos.
Thank you for the video...the last i had heard about this game was the atrocious auto-play launch from last year so when I started hearint hype about it this week i was so confused about why it was back on the radar...im crossing my fingers that this turns out good, but for me the combat will really be the biggest "make or break" moment for me...guess we'll see what happens 🤞🏼
As a weeb ive been looking so long for a MMO that feels like a Isekai but also looks amazing, i believe this one will satisfy me
Weeb 😂
What is weeb? borderline pedo?
@@1994ResStar Wars fan💀
@@toa9329 Metal gear solid fan💀💀
@@1994Res mgs is good while Star Wars has lesbian birthing scene
Dang Vin thats wild I was shocked when I saw your name on my FYP haha good job on the vid bro
Also, please let everyone know that unlike other Korean MMOs this game doesn't have RNG in it's progress system... the only RNG is that you can get a critical roll on your enhancement to progress FASTER if you're lucky but you'll never ever fail completely and be stuck or even throw you back like BDO does with it's enhancements... you'll never feel that BDO desperation of "I'm done with this shit... I've failed the enhancement 50 times and been stuck trying to get this fucking weapon to TET from TRI for 2 months" which is HUGE for me cause I love Korean MMO visuals, combat and how amazing they make high fantasy look but I absolutely DESPISE their godawful enhancement systems that are made for Korean psychopaths that waste hundreds of hours starting over again and again every time the game fucks them...
Good to know, I was wondering about that.
Wrong😂. Have u play the game???
Bdo put a pitty system in like 6 months ago now but definitely true for the longest time since I still play it actively
@@legion8328 I stopped playing it when I realized that to even try to play PvP without selling my kidneys I would have to dedicate half my life to it AND be insanely lucky... I just quit and I only re-downloaded it every few months to get a couple of new classes to Awakening and check them out without any competitive aspirations...
BDO was cancerously bad and even a pity system doesn't save it... the fact that the game throws you back in progress (going from TET to TRI on a failure and can even go to DUO or PRI if you fail a lot) is toxic and only Korean brainless bots can tolerate that shit... any game that has backwards progress is instantly terrible and I don't care what the gameplay looks like if the game wastes hours and days and months of my time... period...
Backwards progress should be an instant ban for the whole product cause it's literally child abuse cause you're literally giving kids mental illness with the rage your purposely inducing...
Some from of archetypes based on the armor type you choose to go for in order to counteract the excessive use of SNS should be something they should consider tbh, Cause it should be something that frontline tanks using heavy armor benefit from the most imo. I was not a fan of the one that archeage used necessarly and not the one NW used either but some from of "punishment" should be there based on armor types, Solid vid tho I wrote this off as a complete DoA at first prior to the combat spec update, But now having played and experience it my self it for sure to improve the feel of combat quite drastically but there are obviously still work to be done surrounding balance and gear progression in order to solidify it as a good alternative, But we'll see for once it feels like NC actually are in a position now where they are actually listening.
THANK GOD THERE IS A MAX LEVEL AND ITEM MAX UPGRADE. there is no Battle Power right? that ruins mmorpg
My biggest concern is as a SOLO player, what's to prevent or dissuade other players from grouping up and pvping me when they're high level and im still a noob? Are there any systems that protect solo players from being constantly ganked?
So there’s no auto battle anymore? That’s good at least
i played kr version. boss weapons will be 1,000+ usd in lucent. no thanks.
do you can sell it for others players? drops for just playing?
@@leandrodmsi It drops from the arch bosses that guilds have to kill, so the guild either gives it to one of their players ( which is what generally happens, that player can then sell it on the AH if they want ) or the guild can sell it on the AH. If the Guild sells it on the AH the GL can decide on how the Lucent is split between members and typically they will set it up so everyone who was there for the raid gets some of the payout if they decide to sell it.
They are expensive because they are so good, dont drop often ( as the boss doesnt spawn often ), and because Guilds will rarely sell them. Either way though, everyone on the AH has to come from players first.
There's a whole video about that :l 20 people out of 5000 having those weapons barely makes a difference in actuality. They're just useless chase items lmao 99.9% of the playerbase are not going to be affected by them.
Throne and Liberty origin story reminds me of Chrono Odyssey.
>PVP oriented Korean game that runs on top of corpse of mobile version
Hard pass, but I'm sure it will find its niche like Lost Ark did
This sounds like an infomercial.
Good info I believe.Putting some truth out there,and not caring about sponsors?Refreshing..
That new world blow was accurate.
The P2W doesn't bother me nearly as much as the possibility of bots. I understand they did something about it months ago, but haven't heard anything since.
There was a mobile top-down playable version of it a few years ago, the game was reaaally generic. Thank god it changed a lot.
The tab-targeting combat is frustrating. constant clicks to select enemies and often resulting in distance issues.. although switching to Action Mode with a USB controller helps. The inventory system lacks a search function, making item retrieval tedious as I have to hover over each item. The loadout system is overly complex; switching weapons requires a full manual reset of the loadout, which is impractical during combat. Additionally, the mandatory shapeshifting mount features feel unnecessary and should be optional. Overall, I got bored at level 22 and went back to my comfort home MMO Guild Wars 2
Go to your settings and select nearest target auto
I played the last beta test and it sucked, I'm sad there will be no more good mmorpgs.. ppl hyping this shit up is the problem with the gaming industry, srsly - why would they develop good games when people buy this crap or games that are not even finished nowadays?
i hope you raise the volume of your speaking voice a bit so we can understand you better
Yea sorry about the volume I changed my audio settings up so future videos should be fine didnt notice since for me i listen to everything pretty low and it sounds loud for me
No Archetypes? New world style weapons? WACK
nops. you can mix 2 weapons skills in the same bar...
audio too low.
I am into PVE are the dungeons and raids good?
The last big release I played from ncsoft was Aion, if this is anything like Aion the dungeons will be quite good. Im betting on some very memorable music as well.
They’re good and the endgame loop is mostly pve.
@@Mrjvc163 Better than New World?
From what I've gathered they're more boss focused and less killing mobs to get to them.... but everyone says the bosses are very good fights
What raid ?
Glad they fixed a lot of stuff
I still think this game looks weird though, I’ll still be playing new world.
Really good video, subscribed for sure! But my friend, NCSoft is like blizzard, they have great ideas, but really bad management... What they are doing now is making the game better for sure, but It's now more pay to win than it was on release, because of the rune system. NCSoft lost money on this game, they're just trying to get it back somehow, they already started to stab deeper with the p2w knife, little by little it'll be like Lineage 2, Blade & Soul and Aion... All good games but with really bad management. I hope I'm wrong, I really do, because I like this game. But a game focused on PVP that is gear based, can't have p2w, It'll die if they don't make the changes needed. Normally they do, but just when it's too late.
So is this just a predominate PvP game? I'm more of a PvE so want to know if I should bother to play.
To be honest the game swung and leaned more into PvE in more recent updates. There is a rune system in T2 with Challenge dungeons similar to WoW's Mythics with mechanics being added on every few levels and rotating out every week. Its the main way to get runes to gear up more and you spam these all day essentially if you want to since the runes aren't timegated how normal dungeon runs are but for global that will be rolling out later.
will there be sea server?
Ill never play another NCSoft cash cow game again.
the animal shifting is a dealbreaker for me
why?
I like it, it is something not many other mmo's (if any) have done. Personally i think it makes the movement system more fresh instead of just your typical mmo mount.
@@iAzwrathbecause having everyone being a shapeshifting druid just breaks immersion for me
@@chris2236WoWs druid travels using animal forms.
@@deansong Oh fair.
Cool video. Game doesn't look like it has all that many weapons. Seems like it would be kinda boring everyone running the same thing.
7 weapons each with 10 different active skills plus 2 blocks and 8 passive skills. That's per weapon and you can use 12 active, 8 passive plus 1 block while holding any 2 weapons. Then you have a different tree to increase damage or change damage type or effect of the abilities with its own skill points to select a tree you like making the same great sword go from aoe to single target or dragger from poison to lightning dmg as an example.
It is very much a new alts for new weapons though. You have to specialize in 2 only as much as it seems like you don't.
@@AlbinoImpire Sounds like a good bit of choices. Just seems like most players would pick whatever is best for the activity. I could see organized players running the same exact setup to maximize efficiency.
Recently i been playing gw2 and the shear amount of abilities and choice variety is insane. 13 weapons 4 offhands all unique depending on your class. Then class skills plus all your elite specializations.
Even with all the variety the game has a best build for all the classes.
@@guixanyrActually NCSoft said they will add more weapons in the future, for example the Spear sometime at the end of the year and they are missing dualswords, blunt and fist weapons so maybe they will add all of that.
There's a lot more depth to the game than just choice of weapons, specific gear, traits, skill expressions etc. all matter. Five people could run the same weapons and yet different playstyles because of this. Plus they'll add more weapons in the future.
What mmos have a bunch of different weapons? Daggers, bows, guns, staffs, swords.. I mean how many types do you need?
Man... thanks for the history lesson. I was going to try it cause free. Not sure i will anymore😅
I mean there's nothing really holding you back since it's like you said, free.
im gonna playing too,but let be honest i watch yesterday Kanon video he explain about p2win/progress i mean 80% of stuff you can pay it what is really bad and question is how long game can survive! I dont understand an thing why NC Soft spend alot of time on the game,give alot of new features i mean doing nice job if you FUCK UP everything with p2win?!This lucent system is bullshit and they need to remove competly in market shop and put only GOLD option for buy everything!
You know a P2W product failed when it comes to the west ^^.
I wasted 17 minutes learning about the game, only to find out it’s just another pay-to-win money grab designed to exploit degenerate gamblers.
they took a page out of ffxivs book
Id like to play.... But its region locked
i cant even play the game its not in my region and no i don't wanna pay for a vpn just to play a game
It hasn’t released globally yet. It’s only available in Korea until oct. 1st
@@Endymion429 they locked it on only certain regions lot of people on many countries ca't play it in their country
I played it liked it but I couldn't get over how p2w it was
I dont like full screen npc, character, bag windows... '..' to muchh mobile game for me...
I pre ordered for early access. Can’t wait!
nailed it
Yeah, it might’ve improved, but its still a KR mmo, with A LOT of mob grinding to level up, and dailys that take up to 2 hours to complete every day.. and with that, its pay to win. Very bad for PvP mmo. A no thanks from me.
nah, pass. 3-6months and poof!
Lost Ark and New World is the prime example to not trust Amazon. But I love the cope makes it more funnier
Lost Ark was P2W from the shop unlike this where you have to pay OTHER PLAYERS to buy everything from them and give them free money essentially... and New World was BUY TO PLAY and it was DEVELOPED by amazon, not published which means the movement and combat systems were absolute trash which made the moment to moment fun be godawful which is why it died... New World died cause it was a trash, half baked action MMO, not cause it was P2W...
This game actually looks very very sustainable for players who plan to make it their main game and enjoy it long term
@@sportschool3537 New World died because of the lack of direction and endgame. It runs pretty fine, and the combat is way better than the "press 1 then 2 then 3" tab target most mmos have. It has one of the most refined and satisfying life skilling actions (chopping down trees and watching them fall, way better than BDO or wow). Everyone just hit level 60 on new world and quit, as there was not much else to do. Base game is incredible, they just need some actual endgame content and more pvp focused events, as it was advertised from the start.
@@spookyclaws5350 The combat is trash with floaty and clunky animations that look like they were made by a first year college student with zero experience... the fact that combat system is tab target doesn't make it worse... a dogshit action combat is way worse than a great tab target... the fact that YOU don't like tab target is irrelevant... but you're so entitled that you can't see further than your nose... and the fact that you think that the combat of New World is good when it's OBJECTIVELY godawful as an action combat system means your opinion my dear entitled snowflake is completely irrelevant cause you have zero knowledge on the subject...
Wonder if casual gamers can play this :)
You can but no one will want you in their team if you don't P2W. Have your fun until you reach that point and then quit ^^.
@@MrFirecam sounds like every free mmo I have played to date, lol
@@DeeTeez Pretty much haha
Tab target even at pvp. BIG SKIP
good content. terrible audio/
Till this day I still with the game had stuck with the Lineage Eternal vision with the top down action combat, it would've been great to have other games that play or feel like Lost Ark
this game will be hit in brazil and russia
Lineage 3
This game will be dead before a year.
If this game have a larger population than a couple thousand players + bots after a year i will be surprised.
People said the same about lost ark..
@@skylerfreeman1173 Time will tell how long this game survives before the servers are shutdown.
eh.. give 3 months for the hype, and before a year itll be dead
maybe but look how many mmos are still going that people would say '"dead" everyone plays the new shiny thing and then player counts will drop.
@@GodHexe bots
Is it any different than the last beta? Gameplay is awful, and it is pay to win. Not a perception, just good ole honest pay to win.
The top player and top guild are both f2p.
There's a very hard limit for p2w in this game. Around 1500$ is when progression stops from money. A f2p can match that within a month or less if they're minmaxing.
Eint no wei
Cash grab, is all this game is going to be.
It isn't P2W by any definition unless your definition is "Time is P2W"
Unless you can purchase an advantage that is otherwise unobtainable by simply playing the game, it isn't P2W. IE Max refine +10, cash shop has +15. That's P2W.
Paying for in-game currency is nothing. Every MMO has that. Good MMOs are just finally taking advantage of it to benefit the game instead of chinese gold farmers.
all you wnat bud, the combat is shit. so it will be with as of creations. so yeah. mmorpg just suck nowadays. blue protocol was the only one with potential, if it wasnt so miss-managed.
To say all of that then say Blue Protocol had potential is ridiculous you should not be allowed to have opinions. Blue Protocols combat is infinitely worse than Throne & Liberty.
BDO ruined their pvp…. This game will hopefully satisfy that pvp urge that BDO use to one fill
The combat of this game is like 10 times worse than BDO though 😭.
@@sanguin3 yeah but I played BDO for the combat AND tribal style open world pvp and node wars. The combat alone doesn’t t keep me playing, and they ruined pvp. I like competition, not king of the hill FFA.
bro its p2w and looks like a cheap mobile game on android. LMFAOOOO STOP THE GLAZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This is a bad p2w game. It is not "perceived" as p2w, it is p2w
CLICKBAIT
Eastern MMOs? No thank you.
The saddest part about this game is the limited pvp, its immensly catered towards casuals. I moss the lineage 2 days where you battled for farming spots, or had 1v1 2v2 3v3 4v4 in the open worlds. Now its all a safe zone for the soft players. It sucks. I was really looking forward for this game to be the next replacement of lineage 2
MEGA COPIUM om
it still suck now lol
So many people yaping about this game it not that great
Why?
Yeah, but I can say that about every single MMO on the market, being a great MMO is a thing of the past. We’re so desperate being functional is basically being competitive
@@amirbouhouche1716
last few year there less and less content to due in these type of game they lost all control working to the best end game fun , now all that is there is end game only . like FF14 dont like every thing in the game but you know you will plenty to due and be around for more then 6 months
@@littlefoot2869 There are a bunch of dungeons and raids, plus unlike FFXIV (whose combat is HORRIFICALLY BORING outside of end game dungeons and raids) this game is PvP focused, so the content is revolving hugely around the PvP events which if you don't like PvP at all, sorry but this is not for you... and honestly traditional MMOs are not FFXIV which is a glorified solo game with tiny multiplayer functions... in traditional MMOs you either socialize or leave the game cause it's a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE RPG GAME... sorry but being in a server with thousands of people and playing completely solo is the dumbest thing I can think of... The whole point of MMOs are the big guilds, the big castle sieges, the big battles for supremacy and the socializing with other people that are fun to play with... just jump into a few guilds and when you find one that seems they want to play the game for real and that feels like a good vibe to be around when playing stick with it...
Yet here you are. This game living rent free in ur head
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This is a scam game, get idea FOR FREE means the only capable section is their Programmer. What a scam.
Korean mmo + average combat. Not worth putting a dime into it. Fortunately it's f2p. Might be worth a play if youre absolutely bored beyond hell
Lol true, atleast lost ark had top tier raids and combat 😂
The combat will evolve over updates but your negative persona won't. Sucks for you.
L Take
yeah do us all a favor and keep playing new world
@@OMGitsZenius what does that have anything to do with anything?
just P2W.
You can’t play this game to a competitive level with a uk/us ping .
Don’t even bother . This guys just a bot and has no idea the impact it will have on his end game .
Don’t waste your money ❤
Another dumbass , global launch is on first october. No need to play on KR server.
The game is releasing its global servers in 9 days, you are not following the game at all and are literally hating just to hate lmao
Yeah, that quarter of a second lag is unbearable 😂
"Don't waste your money" I found the whale guys.
@@mawouel9606 Seriously... are these people for real??? I mean just look up the game on Steam and the first thing you see is RELEASING ON FUCKING OCTOBER 1ST!!! People these days don't bother to waste 5 seconds to click twice to learn anything about anything...
Game is p2w, even kanton sayd on multiple things that its straight up p2w, its the glazing as always when a new mmo comes out.
It's just as P2W as WoW while being F2P and not making you pay 180$ a year to play plus charging you 60$ for every expansion... plus yes, you can buy everything from the Auction House... but you're paying other players... so if a whale buys 2000$ worth of things from the Auction House, 1600$ (the other 20% is in game tax) go to F2P players who have listed those items and can use all that sweet free money to gear up themselves... so in reality it's a free market where the spenders literally sustain the F2P grinders...
So all in all, it's NOT that bad... it's bad if you're a casual player, but if you REALLY like MMOs and want to be a top player in it you can 100% do it as a F2P player if you start from day 1
@@sportschool3537there are a lot of examples about P2W MMORPG and the best you could think of is WoW???
Bro, Lost Ark exists 💀.