Space Marine 2 - An unsalted Appreciation

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  • @Scotty_C15
    @Scotty_C15 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have to say this is one of my absolute favorites of yours. As a huge 40k nerd, you taking the time to go into the lore so you can see why we appreciate it so much was awesome. Also speaking of the throw backs, my friends and I saw the Guardsmen as Halo Marines and tried to keep as many alive at all times as we could. Welcome to the rabbit hole that is 40k!

  • @rump438
    @rump438 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Horus Heresy is unironically the best modern sci fi and it’s literally just 1 event in the universe. It’s so good.

    • @Nineteen1900Hundred
      @Nineteen1900Hundred หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Would you be interested in a decade long running CGI animated tv or movie series that covers the heresy era? From Emperor's beginning to his throne internment?

    • @derpherp7432
      @derpherp7432 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      A horus heresy tv show/movies would be so insanely ambitious, absolutely bonkers undertaking, but so damned cool.

    • @rump438
      @rump438 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@derpherp7432 Not even really, all they have to do is focus on one character and obviously cut down a LOT, but it could be done. A Loken series would be INCREDIBLE.

    • @trevormcguire6984
      @trevormcguire6984 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@rump438they could do that. Or they could go the game of thrones route and don't be in a hurry to wrap things up. The ambitious route would probably be more successful than the half baked approach

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shit is about as long and complex as the Bible

  • @Daimon-X
    @Daimon-X หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    'They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear.'

  • @benclark4823
    @benclark4823 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Basically, space marine 2 did what so much of “modern” media and gaming and entertainment is failing to understand. To please your core audience of fans and customers with respect, recognition, and dignity. 😱

  • @cheshire2.047
    @cheshire2.047 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Welcome to the universe brother! Got into it about 5 years ago. Its now one of my favorite fictional universes, and SM2 is one of my favorite games of all time.

  • @unformedeight
    @unformedeight หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Heldrake: "Come foolish astartes, time for a boss fi-"
    Dreadnaught: "Where the fuck is magnus!"
    If only the halo show had been made with quarter of the love shown towards Space Marine 1 or 2

    • @Autobotmatt428
      @Autobotmatt428 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thats the different's between people that care about doing right by the franchise and people doing it for a paycheck. Its like historical films.

    • @charlesmaclellan8124
      @charlesmaclellan8124 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It pains me to see Halo as it is today. CE-3, ODST, Reach. Hell, even Halo 4. Great games with great stories.
      5s story killed it.
      Infinite tried but failed.
      Hopefully the incoming CE remake won't be a total failure...

    • @MightyGachiman
      @MightyGachiman หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That mad bastard was fully prepared to 1v1 a primarch, love it

    • @dovahfett5919
      @dovahfett5919 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      All they had to do was make the show libe up with the games minimum, that way normies could watch the show and go start halo after and have ot make sense. For normies its unrealistic to expect that to do their homework and read the books but to make the show canon depend on just the games could've made it accessible for all. But nooo, lets just do our own thing so the normies will be confused on why in the game you stumble on halo instead of deliberately hunting it down and theirs no space wizards or whatever was going on in quans story while upsetting fans like myself whonloved halo so much spent hours reading the books and whatever background lore we could find

  • @DerOrk
    @DerOrk หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Against what you might have been told, I for one do recommend playing the original Space Marine. It holds up IMO. The enemies aren't quite as numerous, the enviroment is notoriously brown and the final boss isn't the spectacle that SM2's is - and yet it does everything else just as good, and some things even better than the sequel. More characterful enemies, memorable set pieces and mid bosses. And ofcourse SM2's narrative is a direct continuation of SM1's. Despite all the years between them, the devs did not turn the new one into asoft reboot but proper sequel.
    Btw, the retro shooter 'Boltgun' is effectively SM 1,5.

  • @derpherp7432
    @derpherp7432 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That Amazon Secret Level episode coming out on the 10th of december is a direct continuation of Titus's story in SM2, basically a sequel to this game. It could be interesting to do a comparison as what to do and what not do with an adaptation.

  • @derpherp7432
    @derpherp7432 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I recommend checking out Warhammer 40k Darktide too, its combat is some of the best I have played of any game period, and its atmosphere, music, vibe is such 40k goodness.

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just a shame it takes a two full years after the inital release for it to feel like a complete product

    • @givenchymamajama3859
      @givenchymamajama3859 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dean_l33and sm2 feels complete? 🤣 7 operations and 3 PvP maps. One new pistol. L saber W fat shark

  • @26th_Primarch
    @26th_Primarch หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Welcome to the universe where FTL is literally ripping a hole in reality to travel through hell, extremely angry green mushrooms are having the most fun out of everyone, while the most truly heroic spacemarine chapter are literally maliciously cursed to have the worst luck in the universe, space elves that are the worst kinda person you know/so fucking evil with the shit they do it'd creep out the cenobites from Hellraiser...
    May the God Emperor of Mankind bless you, and now you need to affix bayonets to charge that traitorous heretic Titan!

  • @DarkRavenhaft
    @DarkRavenhaft หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ah, the wonder of a new brother. All are welcome in service of the God Emperor.
    If you are interested in lore, I recommend Oculus Imperia and Baldemort highly, their dedication to well researched and high production quality while keeping up believable "in-universe" personas gives the delivery the impact the subject matter deserves.
    Edit: there is a bit of Dawn of War lore you should experience: The Exterminatus of Typhon Primaris. Angelos' monologue is superb.
    For in-depth deep lore from a more humorous perspective: If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device

    • @mealzonwheelz2453
      @mealzonwheelz2453 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another good channel is Imperial Iterator

  • @Autobotmatt428
    @Autobotmatt428 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Its a great game. It reminded me of what gaming was and hopefully might be again.

  • @Daseril
    @Daseril หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The First Space Marine game was what introduced me to the franchise and made me fall in love with the world and lore of 40k. So happy to finally get a sequel that not only lives up to the original, but even surpasses it.

    • @Someone-lg6di
      @Someone-lg6di หลายเดือนก่อน

      My introduction was dawn of war 2

  • @gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954
    @gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Welcome to the fandom Brother. The rabbit hole of 40K lore runs deep indeed - enjoy.

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't think even GW know the full lore of 40K

    • @philiprau22
      @philiprau22 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dean_l33 Only Big E himself knows all of the Lore

  • @DavisXero
    @DavisXero หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been in the 40K hobby for over 25 years and as an American, it’s been rough with how few people knew of 40K in the early days.
    What space marine 2 has done for introducing the wider audiences to the 40K universe; is something I’ve desperately wanted since I was ten years old.
    You’re second analysis and the other TH-camrs who have covered it, prove that the game did exactly what it set out to do; bring more people into the 40K setting.
    Enjoy the grimdark friend!

  • @Andarion00
    @Andarion00 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I am a simple man, I see a Working Jellyfish video, I hit like and then watch.

    • @workingjellyfish
      @workingjellyfish  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cheers, Skipper

    • @Autobotmatt428
      @Autobotmatt428 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@workingjellyfish Titus is over 200 not 400 common error. Also you can't fool me I heard that Transformers 2007 clip

    • @workingjellyfish
      @workingjellyfish  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Autobotmatt428 - Admiral, it was too appropriate not to use.

  • @lynchpaints
    @lynchpaints หลายเดือนก่อน

    It always makes me smile whenever a newcomer to the hobby becomes enthralled with it after being recommended by a friend! Welcome to Warhammer 40k brother! 🎉

  • @mealzonwheelz2453
    @mealzonwheelz2453 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My sole complaint is that it is too short. I need more.

    • @MightyGachiman
      @MightyGachiman หลายเดือนก่อน

      We get a new mission every quarter also new modes and customization. It's... A long term investment😂 It was the same with SM1, they added a lot even years later

    • @givenchymamajama3859
      @givenchymamajama3859 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MightyGachimanbro we’ve only got one operation since launch. No new PvP maps. One new pistol. That’s it. Cope because saber doesn’t care for content. Darktide is better

  • @titouchose6534
    @titouchose6534 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good, you've covered the tutorial, now the actual core of the game; the operations push you in your corners to master the well thought game mecanics that look simplistic at first glance but that actually are quite subtle.

  • @charlesmaclellan8124
    @charlesmaclellan8124 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you mentioned Bungies 30 seconds of fun.
    I felt that.

  • @dennisbowes3972
    @dennisbowes3972 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    for the emperor brother

    • @workingjellyfish
      @workingjellyfish  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Emperor protects!

    • @BusesAreFatCars
      @BusesAreFatCars หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@workingjellyfish Whenever I hear that I'm always reminded of the short fan film (4 minutes) based on 40K called Guardsman. It was made in 2018 and can be found on TH-cam, along with some cool animated fan movies.

    • @workingjellyfish
      @workingjellyfish  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BusesAreFatCars As a new 40K fan, I must check it out.

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@workingjellyfish There's a wealth of official and fan animation for you to check out. But I heavily suggest getting your feet wet with Asterteas, it was such a good fan animation that GW hire the animator. That and the Text to speech series, a bit old but it's very much worth your time

    • @rump438
      @rump438 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@workingjellyfish Give Helsreach a watch too. Not a huge Black Templar fan but Grimaldus is one of the best space marine characters besides Loken.

  • @Sekainoowaride
    @Sekainoowaride หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happy to see you renounced your initial thoughts of HERESY before you dove into the lore, BROTHER!

  • @mid.cavz.prodution
    @mid.cavz.prodution หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Emperor's protection extends to all jellyfish

  • @MisteRRYouTuby
    @MisteRRYouTuby หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Emperor Protects.

  • @Ryan-nayR
    @Ryan-nayR หลายเดือนก่อน

    I totally agree that the gameplay is at it's core simple, but simple and bad are not the same thing. Like a perfect cup of coffee in the morning this game is exactly what I was hoping for. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope we get more games that are fun and just make people happy.
    This feels like a game that was made by people who still love making games.
    (Edit) Man your insights into game design philosophy are great.

  • @theinfestation4162
    @theinfestation4162 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

  • @bodhimantra7688
    @bodhimantra7688 หลายเดือนก่อน

    blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne

  • @supremefankai5480
    @supremefankai5480 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now this is what I love to see. Naysayers not sticking to their kneejerk opinions but evolving it as new information comes in. Also, it's always so awesome to see the Hobby bring in a new Brother!

  • @Prockski
    @Prockski หลายเดือนก่อน

    40K lore has changed over time so I wouldn’t really say it’s Sacrosanct.

  • @firestarter000001
    @firestarter000001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played Space Marine 2 with a friend in coop. My own impression was the campaign was nice, but it really clicked for me in the operations game mode (maybe because im not a good FPS player ) . In the campaign , the weapons kept changing, you were being forced into a gamestyle, you had forced weapons in boss fights everything seemed a bit random and haphazard, I didnt really feel the combat and how my skill affected it. Ofc the campaing had the additional benefit of great lore and storyline. The gameplay for me clicked when we started doing operations, and i could focus on one game style, that i liked, and see myself improving, and also progress perk wise. I can honestly say now, the camp[aing was fun, but i have more fun in operations mode, and its what elevated Space Marine 2 for me from good to very good.

  • @Juice8767
    @Juice8767 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been digging this game hard despite not having any context to the WarHammer world. I just love a good power fantasy.
    I personally don’t care for deep dramatic stories in games (I got movies for that) and I also don’t care for the Souls-like genre that’s taken off either, seems like they’re meant to treat players like a nobody in the world (I’m a nobody IRL already lol). I would never take those away from people of course, just not my taste and doesn’t mean others can’t.
    All the being said, I grew up playing Streets of Rage, Mario, Halo etc. I like being the big cheese that walks into a room, f’ks sh’t up and struts on the way out. Space Marine 2 fulfills my wants very nicely and coop’s been super fun with my bros.

  • @Stop_Motion_Hub
    @Stop_Motion_Hub หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:36 cover? my brother in christ YOU ARE THE COVER

  • @wheretowander4254
    @wheretowander4254 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Emperor protects!

  • @mealzonwheelz2453
    @mealzonwheelz2453 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, and I highly recommend the Imperial Iterator for those who would like to lose their life to the lore.

  • @thijshagenbeek6554
    @thijshagenbeek6554 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Welcome to Warhammer Neophyte. Your start to becomming a Angel of Death has begun. As a chapter we shall show you no mercy, for the weak have no place amongst our ranks. You will only be given what you have earned and we deem you worthy off. You will have nothing but your duty to The Emperor, Primarch and Chapter. Your trials will be harrowing, We will flay your spirit with pain to discover if you are tainted. You will be opened body and soul to our searches and to embrace the Primarchs gifts. After that. More pain, more trials, more study. Failure will not be tolerated, and rewarded with more pain, lessons and corrections. If you survive all these trails, you will be allowed the honour of combat, to match zeal and wrath with the enemies of the Imperium.if you did not heed our lessons, you will die. And we will not mourn you. You will die unforgotten. Pass the test of battle, and you will earn our respect with decades of service and the scars on your body. And only after those decades of death and war will your tests be over and shall we call you brother.
    And then your trials will truly begin.
    Ave Imperator. May he and the Primarch watch over you favourably, Neophyte.

  • @unholy7324
    @unholy7324 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when i started this video i said to myself "this guy don't get it hes not a warhammer fan so he never will" then the next part happened. glad to have another amongst our many!

    • @workingjellyfish
      @workingjellyfish  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for not clicking off.

  • @blanck7457
    @blanck7457 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see you got started on book one of the HH….out of almost 100. Good luck

  • @Pineapple_Pizza1
    @Pineapple_Pizza1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *Shoves daemonculaba lore in a level 5 vault*
    Nothing to see here newbies, move along move along

  • @Surge127-h7l
    @Surge127-h7l 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey are you going to cover the lord of the rings anime?

  • @unusualbydefault
    @unusualbydefault หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent video

  • @AgatBro
    @AgatBro หลายเดือนก่อน

    which book should i read first?

    • @workingjellyfish
      @workingjellyfish  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Following many recommendations, I started with Horrus Rising.

  • @cabooseMK2
    @cabooseMK2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The game is such a good marketing tool for games workshop. I have bought more black library novels to read and started painting some of their overpriced plastic. Whoever greenlit a second space marine game needs a raise.

    • @workingjellyfish
      @workingjellyfish  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm now up to my jigglies in Lore ... and I'm not even mad.

  • @deathhexxxgaming3431
    @deathhexxxgaming3431 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    EXACT same shit happened here man... been spending literally hundreds of hours in the last 2 months or so, getting asshole deep in some 40K lore and HOLY SHIT man... I couldn't be happier about that. Just kinda bewildered and sickened that I haven't somehow dived into 40K like this, prior to Space Marines 2. However, it was the trigger that set into motion, literally discovering something that has and will have a fairly decent impact on my life. lol I've even looked at the table top and plan on mastering the workings of that and hopefully, making my own little set of minatures to rage never ending, fucking forever war on my enemies (not sure exactly what I want to build yet though... idk... Necrons are cool, but seem like that's what a jackass would go to... Tau might be ok??? idk... I like humans fr. Really like Salamanders, (especially after those sick ass clips that came out not long ago, "Pariah Nexus", I believe is the correct title)... Death Corp of Krieg is fucking cool, real "National Socialist mixed WW1" type vibe, which the Nazis did fucking suck, but gotta give the devil his dues, those mfs had some killer Panzers and tech, a powerful, powerful, cutting edge military, with some good leaders (sadly, the Austrian Painter's ego kept him from staying the fuck out of most military planning, and more or less sidelined his leading generals and leaders, doing some REALLY stupid shit) AND those bastards had some really sharp looking uniforms, I mean, Hugo Boss doesn't design many nation's military clothing and fucking just sit aside all the evil and genocide, you gotta admit, SS uniforms with hobnail boots, looked SLICK

    • @deathhexxxgaming3431
      @deathhexxxgaming3431 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      but yea... Thanks for the developers and Games Workshop in general, for making this sweet ass game, catching my attention, and getting me hooked real good on the 40K crack... cause brother, if there was 40K crack, you could call me Tyrone Biggums.
      Fr... really taken back at the universe and enjoying learning all I can about it\

    • @gawkthimm6030
      @gawkthimm6030 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fun fact, if you dive into the details of the death korps of krieg, the none german ww1 influences are obvious, helmet is a mix of french 'Adrian' helmet and the German, the gas-mask is british and the coat looks more like a darker color version of the French ww1 overcoat than the german. And the death korps of krieg officers look more like french Cavalry Officers than any german..
      you should just watch; The REAL-WORLD Origins of ASTRA MILITARUM Regiments | Warhammer EASTER EGGS! by Arbitor Ian

  • @berowningww2
    @berowningww2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    welcome buther jell now you can help 40k satay 40k

  • @davidhines7592
    @davidhines7592 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hello brother and be welcome. we fight!

    • @davidhines7592
      @davidhines7592 หลายเดือนก่อน

      to be fair to other reviewers (through gritted teeth and a hard grip on my boltgun) they dont have time to go away and study lore, hence why they didnt get it, not being the target audience.

  • @jesseogden9596
    @jesseogden9596 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every man should read Warhammer 40k books

  • @firestarter000001
    @firestarter000001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:14 lol :):)

  • @NoPantsBaby
    @NoPantsBaby หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have they fixed ranged damage yet?

  • @forrestlin9590
    @forrestlin9590 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Winning.

  • @Dram1984
    @Dram1984 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I regret to inform you that GW is on the same corporate slop train as Star Wars, Halo, etc… they are simply a bit further back from the cliff.

  • @ikelevermann1491
    @ikelevermann1491 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Femstodes *cough* *cough*

  • @MrJameslupien
    @MrJameslupien หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have it backwards. Doom took the glorykills from space marine 1. Go play it.

  • @LinkiePup
    @LinkiePup หลายเดือนก่อน

    Warhammer 40,000 is based in some leftist ideology back in the 80s but has evolved over time become more centric.
    So it’s shocking that Space Marine, with some of the most worrying writers, it’s amazing that it didn’t devolve into what most modern games have in the writing department.
    And yes. The game doesn’t do anything new, it is as if someone opened a time capsule. But that’s something we need.
    We need games to remember they’re not soap boxes. Games that remember you need to be fun. You need to have a solid core.

    • @Prockski
      @Prockski หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are right. Most don’t know what it was previously. I enjoy seeing newer fans taking 40k seriously instead of seeing it as an evolution of a deep satire from back in the day.

    • @microwaveenthusiast7410
      @microwaveenthusiast7410 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Clueless tourist take

  • @picklerick.n.666
    @picklerick.n.666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've downloaded it from The Pirate Bay 😇 it was fun...

  • @hankskorpio5857
    @hankskorpio5857 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This entire genre is extremely overrated..
    I love deep lore. So I just assumed Warhammer would draw me into the world but honestly i find it extremely derivative and generic.
    I know mosts' knee jerk reaction is to get defensive but look inward and tell me this actually a good story and not just a bunch of cool artwork smashed together with story as an afterthought. Its all rule of cool all the way. Theres 0 thoughtfulness.
    Its like nerdyness without structure. Idk how to describe it. Its just not that cool or well thought out of a universe.
    I love all the top downs but the shooter games suck..(and usually I dont even like most other top down games) when they have to rely on in world narratives instead of straight up all out war it immediately starts to loose me.
    Space Marine 2 is deff a gamepass game especially with that combat. Im sorry tried it. Combat feels amazing for about an hour and then after that its a goddamn chore of press the same combination of buttons over and over till you want to puke.
    Cool visuals and sound design, yet its another game that intentionally slows your character to make up for subpar performance.
    The story is forgettable like basically all Warhammer lore..
    And the characters feel like generic video game allies and fight like them too.. these big badass Space Marines get chewed up constantly and for some reason your one dude is worth like 10,000 of these other with all the same gear. They make every other space marine look like a bitch.
    Ehh it just feels like some chubby socially retarded neckbearded guy's version of manliness.
    I like that it pushes back against panty waisted creeps who think mindless pandering will help them loose their virginities but thats just not enough for me by itself and it shouldn't be for other imo.

  • @reallybig4868
    @reallybig4868 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:49 “should you choose” sounded like a transformer

  • @givenchymamajama3859
    @givenchymamajama3859 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Game is trash. Only 7 operations. Needs horde mode asap. Bolters are trash as well. Darktide does it better. Praying saber gets their ish together. Campaign is boring. No variety in the gamplay. No vehicle or turret sections is the bare minimum of variety. 3 PvP maps. They don’t care about you guys lol