Peston: Sacking MPs and second referendum would fix Britain
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- Robert Peston lays out how he would fix Britain.
His first step? Reduce the number of MPs by 2/3 and raise their wages to £250,000 per year.
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The Tories have been a disaster for the UK. Get them out !!
It's far deeper than the Torys. Decades of open borders Globalisation has hollowed out the West.
Yes they have. Do you think Labour will improve the mess this country is in? The MPs are all sc u m and have destroyed this country.
Kier Starmer is a whimp, plus where is Blair and Browns credit for F'ing things up? 😊😊😊
Let'd write a book to fix britain, Preston did his fair share to help the credit crisis and causing a run on Northern Rock, his ego have him such a big SCOOP
Indeed but mostly disastrous in failing to overturn Blair's horrendous legacy when they had the mandate to do so.
I would have more respect for Peston's opinions if he wasn't fawning over Johnson the whole time he was in power. Perhaps if BOTH the Politicans AND the media had done their job correctly the UK wouldn't be in the absolute quagmire it is.
Yes we shld REDUCE the mainstream media by 2/3 and pay them less
I'm glad you've raised the climate of hatred that currently engulfs the UK and its citizens, how on Earth did it get this bad? Of course this government is superb at cashing in on fears and ensuring people remain scared. I feel the challenges like a heavy weight on my shoulders and I long for positive change.
Tory = Labour. The system is cooked. Only the pro Palestine protesters and climate activists will bring change. Wake up.
Hatred on twitter, v different from real life.
@@SD-tq1pl how is it? Hate is hate, if society was a joy right now then social media would be too. I live in the real world no time for Twitter, but thank you anyway.
I think you are projecting your own feelings onto the rest of us. I don't hate anyone.
@@fibber2u you think I hate because I feel the toxic state of society? Wow. OK. Obviously, to me it's obvious, not everyone hates everyone/anyone but the political climate is so bleak - and why do British people hate Europe so much? Every political agenda right now is about denying and making example, if you don't see or are lucky enough not to be touched by that; you're doing well and I wish you well.
As an aside: you say you don't hate but your tone to me is questionable to suggest I'm different to you, and the rest you you "us". I concurred with Peston so he gets it too...forget it.
We definitely need PR of some form, just to get rid of these two hopeless pretend parties.
PR is not a cure all.
FPTP kept UKIP out of parliament at Westminster. PR would have let them in, as it did in the European Parliament. The EU's version of PR broke the link between the electorate and the MP. In the last 50 years I have aways known who my FPTP MP was, and have complained directly to several of them at their regular surgeries and occasionally they even got things done. However, I have no idea who any of my PR MEPs were over the last half century because they are lost in some sort of list system and don't appear to have a specific constituency each. I don't even know if they held surgeries or ever met their electorates regularly.
@@markaxworthy2508 the MEP system was too remote, nothing to do with PR per se, yes UKIP would have got some seats, as would socialist workers etc etc, so what? Political ideas which got support from the electorate would have got seats - that’s what democracy is supposed to be. The problem now with FPTP is that there aren’t any political parties, the two big ones are conglomerates that spread so wide they spend as much time fighting amongst themselves as they do remotely thinking about governance. Pointless.
@@jedkai29 But then what? Under PR almost invariably none of the electorate gets what it voted for because post-election coalition negotiations water down all the manifestoes that the parties' got elected on in the first place. Under FPTP around 42%-44% of the electorate usually get what they voted for.
You are right that the two major parties are broad churches, but they thrash their agreed platforms out before the electors vote, not afterwards by negotiation without reference to the electorate..
Yes, and after public office, MPs should not be legally allowed to invest, or in any kind work for foreign countries/ multinationals, as well as be required to have open books.
Not a bad idea.
But if we ban them working for X say 5, years then we, the taxpayer, needs to carry on paying them full pay during that time.
@@danielwebb8402 I think if you're not fit for public office, if you want to do that kind of work anyway. It's a filter
@jackbolder5734
Vast, vast majority of non tiny competent businesses are "multinational".
Working for Halifax Bank or Tesco or Dyson as a hoover engineer isn't immoral. Someone boxing up weetabix is working for a multinational. They are so beyond the pale not allowed to be a future MP? Only people that work for.... 100% domestic only revenue company?
A mum on the tills at Tesco needs to be filtered out?
@@danielwebb8402 just an idea, needs refinement
Sounds clever in 'Spoons at 11 a.m.
Not workable or practical.
Maybe MPs are being paid peanuts, because we're certainly getting the monkeys.
They're getting paid almost 3 times the national average, and have given themselves multiple above-inflation payrises despite refusing to for all other public sectors (not to mention the jaw-dropping expenses in some cases). Not sure how to manage it but what we really need is to stop those out for themselves from getting into power.
uh. uk don't have to vote for monkeys. if uk have the vote and uk votes in a monkeys, what does that say about the uk public? Monkeys all the way down.
IT DOES NT REALLY MATTER THE BANKS RULE THE WORLD AND CHOOSE WHICH POLITICIANS THEY WANT
Do you really think it they were late enough to live in luxury (which some already do) MPs would be better? No, they wouldn't. Those wanting to be MPs would be doing it for public service, and whilst being paid enough to make it with their while is necessary, if you pay £150k+ you would get more Nadine Dorries type people (and Boris Johnson)who aren't at all interested in serving their constituents and just there for the prestige. So people wanting to just earn money can go and be investment bankers or tech entrepreneurs because most of the time they are terrible at knowing how to run public services where there are no quick fixes like sometimes there are in business.
The Bankers are the real power
£90,000 a year is not 'peanuts'. It is three times the average wage.
Peston and Kuennsberg both worshipped and idolised Johnson, they played their own part.
My thoughts exactly Marr as well
I think not. They are far too clever to be worshipping some cluueless toff who thought the country owed him the job of PM.
What a load of tosh they were both anti brexit
Where did you get this dumb idea that they idolised Johnson??
@28pbtkh23 from their softball interviews, Kuennsberg positively drooled in his presence. There is only 1 person with the courage to call him out to his face and that was Eddie Mair 'you really ARE a nasty piece of work aren't you'
The quality of our governing MP has never been so abysmal. They are totally out of touch with the present day situation in the U.K. They don't have the ability to think outside the box regarding the economic future of the country. Lack of long term commitments in manufacturing, energy needs, transport health and social welfare. The concentration on finance and the "city" must change to innovation and manufacturing and retain the benefits for all the U.K. and then we can move forward economically.
The quality of our MPs matches that of our modern managerial class in general.
Civil Service, media, universities as well as parliament have all been stuffed with people who, while they are knowledgeable on their own specialised subject have zero knowledge outside it, and while often being intelligent have no common sense nor life experience.
Brexit wasn't "outside the box"?
I thought that was Louis Theroux for a second in the thumbnail 😂
The decline in competency of our MPs isn't down to the amount they are paid, but the parties they are selected by and the local parties especially choosing awful people. I don't think upping the pay would change anything, and Peston actually says he has no idea how to change this.
The decline in the competency of our politicians in my opinion is directly related to being able to obtain a degree in politics in our universities and students moving from university to politics without having any knowledge of what happens in industry and offices and very limited experience of life in general. These people have know experience in politics hence the level of incompetence in our politicians.
@@johnwainwright820 I think it's more that bad candidates are being selected by the parties. Personally I would prefer politicians to consult a range of experts from business (and those running public services) whilst creating new legislation to be out before parliament rather than just have former businessmen and women in the HoC, which just isn't going to happen (unless you put them in the House of Lords, but don't get me started on that). You still need competent politicians and some experience would be better than none, but these days those selected seem to be those thought highly of by those high up in the party and often for the Tories those that are divisive, which in the end helps nobody.
The membership of both parties have allowed themselves to be dictated to and made irrelevant by Johnson and Starmer who are selecting only those who sing their song clear indication of weakness and poor leadership.Not a coincidence both are inveterate liars.
Easy, there is no minimum competency for MPs with good business knowledge and understanding society and the wider world, there's no where else in business you'd get a high paid job with zero skills or experience
If being a brexit backer is neccessary to be in the cabinet by definition we will have a cabiney of fools.
Britains fractured politics, especially the whole Brexit debacle, has Britains geopolitical enemies dancing and drinking Champagne.
The wealthy want it like that. It's fractured for a reason. Tax avoidance.
Can he still get champagne with all the sanctions?
Nonsense. Brexit was just about moving power from the EU Superstate to Westminster. You still have to VOTE in a positive government.
The problem is decades of open borders Globalisation has hollowed out the West and we are in managed decline.
Our manufacturing and industrial base has gone to China and mass replacement migration is destroying European Civilisation.
True, which is why Russia pushed for Brexit. From Russia's point of view Brexit was a great way to get Britain to hamstring itself.
@@gordonstrong5232Russia pushed for Brexit! We had a chance to keep out of the Ukraine war as others made fools of themselves. Instead we doubled down and sanctioned Russian energy. That alone is multiples of anything Brexit has been. If the Tories had delivered Brexit we'd have corporation tax at 10% and signed a deal with the previous US govt. All three parties got hung up on chlorinated chicken😂 As for Peston, it's finance for dummies!
Do we really need all our MP's to have come from the background that would be expecting £90,000+ and having come from University ? What about ordinary folk from backgrounds which don't fit this profile. This plan would elect a far higher percentage MP's who are even further from the reality from day to day British life than the lot we have now :(
Ordinary folk neither have the knowledge or experience to run their own lives let alone a business or country
@@Mike-rr2ni And people question why there is a push back at "Elites". Many people make very successful rewarding lives without going to University and not expecting to earn the huge wage projection needed by Peston's suggestion. I agree not everyone is suitable for office but as we have seen with our current politicians a posh voice and an education at a top university doesn't qualify either.
@@bobbralee1019having worked as a management consultant for 20 yrs, unfortunately those at lower levels of society unfortunately just don't have the experience or knowledge as they only see a very small perspective of the whole picture.
It's like standing at the base of the mountain and describing the climb to the top, yet neither have they done it or know what it's like, you can only tell that story when your standing at the top unfortunately.
So many opinions and ideas, just don't have much relevance on the climb....
Do you ask your butcher to build an extension on your house ...
Describing £90000 a year as peanuts or not enough is astonishing. If they think this is peanuts they should be moved on and encouraged to find a better wage elsewhere.
These are the same folks who decide what minimum wage is. If they should take away school meals or if we should provide baby milk.
Good grief. No wonder they are described as pigs in a trough.
@@Mike-rr2ni Those people look up from the bottom of the mountain and see brown envelopes been exchanged left right an center dodgy deals been struck and inequality spreading like clap in the big brother house.
They understand more than what you give them credit for.
They also know what their soul is worth. The house of cards falls down if you damage the cards at the bottom.
Is that not what we are seeing today?
Many MPS are millionaires or highly qualified lawyers. Increasing the salary is not going to make a difference. We need MPs from different backgrounds. Not the PPE Oxbridge clique that is currently in power. Changing the system to stop the abuses of power, bullying, increasing transparency, changing the selection process for select committees, the MP selection criteria, stoping the use of special advisors which takes power from elected officials, overhauling the expenses system would all help.
Millionaires/ billionaires should be banned from politics as it is greedy of them to take a second job when they are already wealthy. They lack morals
As the wealth gap widens politics gets more insane. It's not rocket. The tories are destroying this country, at the behest of the billionaires and their media. Solution is easy. Take back the excess profits from corporations. Redistribute the wealth and our lives will improve.
So true
The suggestion on cutting the amount of MPs and raising the pay to a quarter million per year sounds crazy. The problem with the UK is elitism and I couldn't think of a change that would support elitism more. The opposite needs to happen decision making needs to be expanded to much larger demographic of people from all walks of life and our whole democratic system needs to be digitalised so it's easily accessible to all and then elements of direct democracy need to be implemented. This is the future and it will happen, although it will likely not happen in the UK first.
Unfortunately you need to be properly informed to be able to make good decisions. Just widening the base is unlikely to help.
@@rogerphelps9939Unfortunately there is no metric for properly informed. And if we are going off this reasoning we might as well scrap democracy and go back to a dictatorship which is based on this reasoning that this one person is the only one properly informed.
Get proportional representation working
You seriously think the EU is more democratic than Britain ?? Deluded ! As more and more European voters are realising and voting for LESS E U .....not more !!
MPs could be paid the salary they gave up to enter parliament. This avoids the unwillingness of individuals to stand if they lose too much income.
Haven't we sold our best companies off?
'We' haven't sold them off. Corrupt and incompetent Tories have sold them off to foreign investors, in exchange for corrupt back-handers of course. Meaning the profits now all go abroad.
There is only one way to fix the UK.
General election. Introduce PR.
Rejoin the EU & Euro. Easy to state. It is not so easy to implement without media reform. The UK electorate needs to be taught critical thinking skills.
I challenge the concept that we are poor. I live in a normal middle of the road small town in the east Midlands. Almost every house has two cars and many of them are burning electricity on Christmas lights
The establishment are remainers,what chance have we got,it will change though.
The idea that life will always get better is not only monumentally naive but also ignorant; historically speaking.
Is this guy for real
Preston's prescription for a government that doesn't represent the people is to reduce the amount of representatives. Fewer people for the corporations to buy out. Want to see how that works? Look at the USA, where each Congressional rep represents >802,000 people vs. the 100,000 people each MP represents. Preston suggests people in Britain would be better represented with a ratio of 295,000 people per MP.
Also, do we really think that the people who aren't happy with £90K a year won't be taking 'outside' jobs and bribes for £250K?
Dream on! If there will be less of them to bribe, then the bribes from lobbyists simply go further on each MP.
Agree on proportional representation and on ID cards (ONLY if it is free to citizens) because it's a major reason why economic migrants are attracted to Britain, because its much easier to 'disappear' in the British economy than in most European countries that have ID countries.
You can't work legally in the UK without a NI number. Illegal immigrants don't have those, so what you are saying makes no sense.
@@tcritt because NI can be had illegally and NI cards are not photo ID cards. Does it make sense now?
@@daispy101 So then the problem is issuing NI numbers to those that shouldn't have them, which can be solved by.... not doing so.
And where is your evidence that illegal immigrants target the UK because they can disappear easily? With a bit of research, you'll see that there is a much, much larger illegal labour market in Germany, France and Italy than in the UK. These countries all have mandatory photo ID cards.
How about sacking Peston. He’s part of the problem.
And what? Replace him with someone who will just keep reinforcing your brexit unicorn fantasies? If that's what you want go and watch GBeebies instead. 😅
No, I think you are.
The Uk is an amazing country with talented and intelligent people. Your history is bloody and unfair and does not reflect the brilliance of the country . We have proportional representation in Ireland and although not perfect, it does reflect the electorate quite well.
Fantastic to hear Peston talk about his observations of the challenges we are currently facing. I agree that inequalities in wealth have escalated, the incompetence and corruption exhibited by senior politicians is startling and the all-round malaise in service delivery across public, private and voluntary sectors is concerning. Intelligence at the senior levels of Westminster would be very welcome but, for me, the greatest characteristic that is currently lacking is courage. Post-Pandemic adaptions are painfully slow and clunky. The continuous, accelerated development of IT is also causing multifarious problems.
The thing about Peston is he starts making a point, you go off and make a cup of tea, put the washing out, hoover the entire house and you come back to find he isn't halfway through his answer.
The Rich are doing alright
It’s going to take more than that. We need proportional representation to replace FPTP in order to smash the unbalanced Tory/Labour dictatorship pendulum, and create a proper written constitution to preserve the independence of the three branches of government.
The biggest challange is lack of investment. The US is investing. So either those with off shore accounts or trusts need to come snd invest their money or joining EU so that others will come snd invest with the hope to invest.
The US isn't investing in anything other than its military which has an 800 billion dollar budget.American infrastructure is in dire straights not to mention its massive de industrialisation which has seen many towns and cities fall into complete disrepair.
US is now investing in infrastructure. This was literally all over the news for months.
Didn’t take long for his advocating for technocracy - fewer MPs with a ‘competence’ qualification and a Lords designed to give the impression they are representing people locally.
Well in his defence remember Dominic Raab's statement that he never realised how important the port of Dover was for UK trade. He was Foreign Sec at the time.
I don’t see a defence there? In a liberal democracy anyone no matter how thick can stand and be elected. Just think of Jeremy Corbyn.
Sacking Robert Preston would be a better option.
The closing ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics was also the closing ceremony of hope for UK people.
I would rather be in the EU right now because we can't wait for even another 5 years😊
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of the that 3% growth was cantered in the south east/ London as compared to now.
If you're gonna drastically reduce the number of MPs and pay them more then ypu should also mandate that they can only sit as MPs for a maxiumum of 2 parliamentary terms...
Parliamentary reform is long overdue. When a Minister is sacked, they are provided with financial compensation. Does that happen in any of profession? They can spend an unlimited time on a second job....really? There is no alternative.
I was mainly with you until you mentioned digital ID. After the Post Office fiasco, forget it.
Robert Peston's Cash in the Attic
Yes to a Written Constitution to hem in would be dictators and the power mad, such as Johnson. Yes to PR voting. Yes to an elected House of lords by a different proportional voting system. Yes to asylum seekers being able to work and pay taxes, where there are recognised labour shortages. Yes to rejoining the EU
It would be an invasion of privacy
Don't agree in paying MP more than £90,000
The rich middle classes do make me laugh.
" TOSSPOT"
Still can't accept the result! The BBC liberrati will never accept the gravy train has run its course. I would accept more of what Peston has to say if we had actually got the Brexit we were Voting for! Control our borders, our laws, our fish and our money!
Picking arbitrary dates for referenda is ridiculous. As and when there is an overwhelming will for anything concerning the people the country a government should hold a referendum (or not). 37% of those eligible to vote, something very rarely mentioned (even by pro remain supporters), voted to leave (more than the 33% that voted remain), so by that democratic mandate we should have a referendum tomorrow. Even Rees-Mogg before the referendum in 2016 said there should have been a vote on the final deal, so this would be in line with that.
Lets have a referendum on climate. You know how this works now.
The people of Britain were promised a referendum on entering the EEC/EU. It never happened. In 1972, all of the mass media were in favour of joining. There was some debate on TV, but not nearly enough.
You should wait 50 years like we did.
"Continental" European here (German, to be precise): I get it, people feel that Britain "does not work well" at the moment, economically and politically.
However I would not just throw out anything and everything in British politics or economics just to get rid of all you've had.
This applies especially to replacing first-past-the-post with full proportional representation.
Full PR comes with bad or mediocre governance as well. Because:
- parliament WILL splinter into smaller and smaller factions over the years.
- It will give the smallest parties outsized power.
- And it WILL finally include the Radicals in GOVERNMENT (not just parliament) - including the radical right. That happens anywhere and everywhere you have full PR.
- And leads to unstable or questionable government. Current examples. The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Israel, Sweden, Finland.
A compromise system like in Scotland (parliament at Holyrood: a mixture of FPTP and PR), or the Australian variety (instant runoff vote, though rejected by the British people a decade ago) or the New Zealand variety ("Single Transferable Vote") include smaller parties in parliament but will also not hinder majority government as much as full PR does. Or ur own version of slightly limited PR in Germany and Austria and other countries - PR with a threshhold of some one-digit percentage to win any seats. It is ... sort of okay-ish, but the Scottish, Australian, New Zealand varieties are the best in my book.
The problem is that the smallest right wing parties already have outsized power through FPTP - witness the mainstream Conservative Party's lurch to the right to react to the limited appeal of far-right parties. Why not make them take responsibility and some sort of democratic accountability that comes from actually taking a seat under PR in Parliament?
@@petebetts3090 Just watch the difficult task of forming a goverment in the Netherlands right now ... as we speak... and in Belgium everytime - takes up to NINE MONTHS there. In Sweden you have the "Sweden Democrats" (with fascist roots) in government; same might happen in NL (with Geerd Wilders) and has happened in Finland with the "Fins" party (formerly "True Fins"). These parties grow over time if they can gum up the works of forming governments, subsequent regular early elections and the like.
In the end it will be up to the British people - one way or another - but be careful what you wish for, you might get it.
I would rather extreme parties have a small number of MPs than large parties adopting extreme positions to stop people voting for the extreme parties instead of them.
@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Absolutely
STV in Ireland. No problems.
MPs don’t need more money ( ie .. pay increase ) they earn more money than us, we need more than them . Preston you have disappointed me … how can you think off that ???😮
You mean a third Referendum, we have already had two.
The word would begin with a f but not fix.
It will be too late by then. The UK will be even less important
The British have to eat a lot of humble pie already that looks frightening already. It is not going to get sny better.
I will NEVER agree to an identity card😊
it works fine in many countries.
No sense here of parlaiment being our representatives. Cutring their number & upping pay to corporate exec. levels makes them a remote elite of technocrats, like Peston himself & his pals!
British state is a clown show and Scotland wants out of this colonial supression
Scary stuff 😡
Agree with most of that, except waiting 20 years to rejoin the EU. This country can't afford to wait that long before we at least rejoin the Single Market.
Introducing PR would also do a lot to improve the quality of our MPs. PR would almost certainly end the idea of the safe seat. Where some old relic gets reelected time after time. Fear that they might lose their seats, should cause them to be a little more responsive to their constituents needs rather than their own self interests.
Proportional representation or some form of proportional representation is far far better than the elected dictatorships. We endure every four or five years elected dictatorship is I’ve never looked after the majority. They have undermined and destroyed this country. It’s time for change. Let’s have PR
We need to bring in more referenda on big topics, certainly anything constitutional. The definition of voting rights should be clarified. The idea that anyone paying tax in the UK should get a vote is foolish. The effect of those carrying plural nationalities must be addressed. A referendum vote should be available only to those who cannot opt out of the result by using their other nationality.
I have always thought this guy talks so much truth ... problem is this tory party has brought this once proud natoin to a laughing stock onthe world stage ... 13 years too late mr preston
Yes again, and not i. 2036 2030 at tge lateat! There's no 'not again', it is still going on, it has never gone away, the anger has intensified. There's no putting this BS under the carpet, there is no carpet big enough!
Yes, it takes an overall to get this a new system. We have to sacrifice some things to create a new structure. I believe it starts with education in all types of levels. We need to revamp structure subjects that are relevant to today society. Then, structure jobs through education changes, police institutions adpt with private sectors and security. Change adapt pensions ideas, etc.
Education should serve businesses, the point is to get people competent and capable to do jobs rather than dictating their society beliefs, that's the job of parent's.
Did you mean 2026? That’s more sensible😊
the tories have had more than enough money since 2010 to fix the economy..labour already bailed out the banks.there was a ten year period of excessive borrowing while the tax payers paid in record amounts but had services reduced..so where was the extra 1200 billion of borrowing spent from 2010 to 2019.?
£90,000 s a very generous salary, why offer £250,000? Money is then the main incentive, rather than an altruistic desire to serve; I guess I am naive.
I think it's part of the factor. I tend to agree with him on it.
We have a seriously unequal society wrt earnings (that's another issue) but many people earn more than MPs ...or the PM. (I did for a few years whilst doing consultancy)
The ideal of having people who are 100% selfless wrt earnings is just not the reality.
If we could have a PM that could fix all our major problems, I wouldn't care if they were paid 10 million a year tbh! Bad governance has cost us 100's billions over the last decade
And what kind of lowlifes would £250k a year attracted?
The fact that it takes time for education to have an inpact just means you have to take it serious yesterday.
Brits seem to think they have had several govenments during the last 14 years but that is to be rather blind to the fact that the coutry has been run by that one same party for the jast 14 years.
Also in a two party system the radical left or right have nowhere to go but will have to take over one of the two parties.
Just look and listen to yourself, Brits, and listen to the Americans too, and it's not on the left but on the right now.
In "many party" countries with coalition governments (the large majority of countries are) those far left and far right people form their own parties of very limited power.
But I agree with a lot about what he talked about.
I think the Brexit problem is emotional and always was. People were told we were wasting money and getting nothing back (false), that immigration was the cause of all our problems (false) that the EU was undemocratic (false), that we had laws we didnt choose and that were bad for us (false), that we'd be able to get better trade deals (false), that we'd have cheaper food, etc (false), that it would be better for farmers, fisherman, etc (false). That we'd be able to make our own laws (always could - UK parliament and veto on EU laws although we wrote many anyway), that we'd control our own money (BofE and UK govt, always could), that we'd be able to control our borders (always could but govt recognised the economic need for migrant workers and ironically with loss of EU Dublin agreement now worse). Multi-millionaire tax avoiders were desperate to avoid the new EU laws that woidl have taxed them more and given more money to the population especially the UK - one calculation £3,500 per household per year). Thats partly why so desperate to resist another referendum (no sovereignty, no vote now we can see a Brexit in all it's glory... Why? Surely if its so good even more would support?!). Brexit is too polarising until people on both sides can duscuss the good and bad about the EU and Brexit. Mean time its a cult where you just have to wait decades for better times and just believe - not very convincing as an arguement when we can see so many of the problems...
You are so clever, Omnisient without a doubt.
Typical remoaner shlte..
Fool, corporation tax should be 10%. The 27 divided (soon to be 28 with Ukraine), are competition. If you haven't gained after the vote, that's you're problem.
@@jonathan5677 unless you're a multi-millionaire and/or tax avoider or a disaster capitalist then you won't have gained from Brexit. That's why, adjusted for inflation which you obviously have to.., trade and inward investment post Brexit is so bad. It's why we have such high inflation, etc. there are no Brexit benefits nor unicorns. It's why Brexiteers can't list five specific gains from Brexit.
@@user-vh1qp1uz2d can't beat informed discussion but then with a starting point of EU bad, Brexit good... Not easy!
I would DECREASE MPS wages to the average of their constituents and then they could be topped up each year to what ever is decided, 250k you suggest? Topped up by their constituents voting via an app on their performance throughout the year.
4 words come to mind when i see Peston
Scruffy
Smug
Bell
End
They can’t see the woods through the trees.
20 yrs. is far too long for our economy. Those of us who are less wealthy cannot wait that long.
I’m afraid I lost faith in democracy to such a degree that I viewed we were voting to change the colour of the house but not the structure of the house . There is more to life but not much more 😊 please try to achieve the not much more 🙏
Struggling with the idea that it's OK for someone in RP's position to be in any way prescriptive about politics. He should be asking questions, not giving answers.
We do not need a new exam system Education just needs enough quality teachers who have actually passed a maths exam on all at m
Peston as usual talks out if his bottom
i disagree I say have another referendum before 2030. Once it has been called we can enter the SM and CU
Sacking BBC presenters who are paid above common sense and ditching common purpose training would help the BBC?
I used to think Robert Peston was a good guide on economics, but saying we need to wait 2036 before we consider going back into the EU is madness. We can already see it is a disaster. By 2036 the UK will be bankrupt, all our industry will have moved into the EU, inflation and food prices will run amok. First thing we need to do is hold another referendum which today would vote to go back into the EU. We need to get back in while we have an economy that the EU would find credible to be a member. By 2036 we will not be able to afford to join.
We can already see by.....
Our economic growth since being very consistent with Germany/ France/ Italy?
It'll be that long anyway before they'll agree to have us back, so if he means a vote on a reentry that's already been negotiated, the timeframe looks about right, unfortunately.
From a much lower base.@@danielwebb8402
Er ... so you’d want to rejoin the EU which is in more of a basket case condition than the uk ? France ? Germany? Italy ?
@@brianstubberfield2116 Economics and brexiters are like oil and water.
About time that we hear intelligent and well-thought ideas. While not all ideas might resonate well, at least someone with some experience of being at the sharp end is able to put forward ideas and with specific "how-tos". Time to "get back to basics 2.0".
Saying Peston is intelligent is madness
What sharp end has he been at?
Sharp end of what? Has he ever been a care worker or a farm labourer or managed a household on 10k a year?
It's just a reiteration of Blairism.
We need to role back all the damage done by Blair, who’s made a fortune out of the mess he created! Robert is talking about trying to be friendly with everyone this doesn’t get us anywhere🙄🙄
AI that's Britain's real problem , artificial intelligence.
We were IN the EU for forty plus years and people voted to come out. Clearly some things about being in the “common market” didn’t satisfy the majority of the people. It isn’t all about growth, productivity and the economy.
I was looking forward to this. I was disappointed.
you only have to travel abroad and compare the way things are run i totally agree things have been getting worse the hopes and dreams for the better have been exchanged for ling hand to mouth
How about 1 MP per county and paying them the minimum wage. That would get rid of career politicians or they'd set the minimum wage at £50 an hour. 😂I wouldn't value any of them above a person working in a warehouse or care home.
PR is vital.
The House of Lords won't like that. It would mean they would have to do some work!
I think it would do the opposite.
Bad idea to reduce the amount of MP's, still worse to increase the salary. I think it's a recipe for making many more Sunaks and the other incomptetants we've suffered lately. Salary can but often does not signify talent or worth.
What a breath of fresh air! Please let the ideas be heard by those that matter. I completely agree with the OR statement and long term thinking snd planning
Some stale air and low hanging fruit. The state is trying to do too much and we're paying the highest taxes in 70 years: never addressed.
It was not a democratic process
"Ihre ausweis, bitte".
We are a lazy society who rely on the welfare state - hello.
PR in Israel proves extremism can trump liberal/moderate norms ... with real world effects.... jus sayin
Second Scottish referendum in 2034??
We need much less power in the hands of MPs We need a written constitution that enshrines protections of basic services into law, such as the NHS utilities etc, so these cannot be at the whims of political dogma. The second chamber should be elected from the regions. Robert is also talking utter rot about pay. He's suggesting that all MPs should be paid ultra-top salaries. It's a total nonsense
Inequality is the root of all the Wests problems.
People who don't get their fair share don't bother to work as hard as they can and they then vote for populists and things get worse and worse and worse.
Well with the EU going to the right and the Uk moving more to the left maybe it would make sense as by the time we look to go back into the EU they may have band digital id link to digital currency etc and got sorted out the removal of the unelected people from the EU governors and replaced them with fully elected by the people governing
This resonates but I am not sure that it was all roses back then. Think of the 80s with miners strikes and associated violence, print strikes and the poll tax riots. Think of riots at Tottenham, Brixton and Toxteth also prior to the 80s the winter of discontent. I suspect the view from London was always rather more optimistic than say the view from somewhere like Orgreave.