Mine Giulia have now 252.000km and still going strong. Original turbo, injectors. Only part that l replace was EGR valve, becuose cooler was leaked. Suspension parts are original too. In two years of ownership no problems with electrics. But before l bought it, battery was replaced and l drive a lot whichever it can contribute to this. Overall l love it.
Still get, every time someone finds out what I drive, ‘oh so do you drive it or just take it to the garage and back?’ So boring. Especially when usually they’ve got a beemer or Merc that pings them for £500 every time a sensor goes bad. Also glad to have the videos back on a Sunday morning with a cup of tea.
Love Alfa's style, its always been style over content, you either love them or hate them, I chuckle to myself when I have to open the door on my Brera to adjust the lumbar support, others may shit a chicken having to go through this process. Personally I absolutely love em. Nice change for your latest vid Nelly, enjoyed it.
I have a 2021 2.0T, forest green with tan interior. Looks absolutely stunning and a blast to drive. It's my daily driver, putting about 2K miles/month on it. It never gets boring!
Thank you for a great video about the diesel Alfa Giulia. You've really made motorists across the country rethink their next car choice. Thanks again. CV
Nice Video Neil! those starting rusty spots are good to know, since my hunt for an Giulia starts in a few weeks. Good to see you did not quit youtube, Love your video's dude !
This particular car is the pre-lift version, which had antiquated telematic equipment. The MY 2020 lifting greatly improved the stereo and connectivity. Giulia is the best "3-series" on the market right now and I plan to purchase one of those cars.
My wife doesn't care too much about cars, but she had her eyes on the Stelvio. I bought her a Stelvio Sport 2.0T. Pretty amazing SUV because it drives like a car and sort of looks like a hot hatch. She loves it to bits.
Great video (as per usual!) This being the natural “upgrade” from my 159 it would be interesting to see the longer term effects on the fuel tank brackets and sub frame. Apart from that beautiful car 👌🏻
I think that looks stunning especially in that grey. Going to get a few more years out of my Giulietta JTDm as it's only on 95,000 miles and then when prices dip well under 10k I'll get one.
Hi Neil , whats your take on the 2.0T petrol engines? Can't find any solid info online, one (200hp version) finally poped up where I am from for £15k with 45k miles and its begging to bought. Thoughts?
Have Stelvio 2.2d 210hp Q4 in same colour but black leather and less support to sides. But love it to bits, especially into the tight bends... leave all others struggling through the twisties
Nice car. Only 4 years old though. Still the big problem is, every alfa indy garage (if you can find one) is a spit n sawdust place. Its great to not have to use these places anymore, despite the mechanics being perfectly sound. I don't miss a diesel either 😉
@@peterkleinveld9705 I'm afraid that because of UK winters and salty roads the pressed metal fittings on virtually all cars rust in that way, so In that respect it's no better and no worse than just about any other car. My Kia Sorento was dreadful in this respect.
@@ewanwallace1 Mine was a brand new 17 plate car. The issues list is long... 1. Power fold mirror faulty, replaced under warranty. 2. 3 cases of check engine lights happening, limiting you to reduced power mode etc had to get breakdown out 3 times to reset (electrical fault I reckon). 3. All 4 wheel hub caps corroded. 4. 3 wheels had corrosion bubbling under the paint. (New wheels due under warranty) 5. Everytime it rained reasonably heavily, the alarm would go off multiple times even on reduced sensitivity. 6. Driving along the motorway and the drivers display just went totally blank (Only happened once). Obviously electrical issue. 7. Corrosion spotted on boot lip seam. 8. New pads and discs needed at 10k miles! Discs replaced under warranty, Obviously a manufacturing defect. A quick check of mot history showing it needed another new set at around 30k! That's all I can remember for now. Most beautiful, superb driving car I've ever had, but equally frustrating. In so many ways a wonderful car, I just had a bad one I think. Good luck.
@@Nick-vp7lp thanks for taking the time to reply. Have read of the rear brake wear from a few owners. It’s not very confidence inspiring. The other car I’m considering is a Lexus RC - more of a cruiser but the peace of mind is a big draw and at the mo that’s edging it.
@@Nick-vp7lp You're joking?! I had been eyeing up the RC200t for the better performance over the 300h but they seem to be in very short supply. I have looked at the odd RCF as the servicing costs over the 200t/300h aren't as big of a step up as I imagined and tyres etc are not much more than my current car. There was a beautiful 2015 metallic red with cream leather for sale recently for a reasonable price but it's gone. Most advertised have the carbon bonnet which I'm not all that keen on. What was your experience with the RCF? Any unexpected bills/issues?
My Giulia Veloce is a great drive, smooth , powerful, shame engine doesnt sound that good. Im currently been waiting a couple of months for a new infotainment screen as mine has started to bubble/ de-laminate😥
Ive just bought my Giulia Veloce a few days ago. Should have bought one sooner, love it! Only gripe at the moment is the heated seats don't get anywhere near as hot as my last car.
I liked the format of having owner/customer with car. Some of those Giulias seem like a bargain there in UK. I think Giulia is one of the best looking newer sedans.
The only issue i have with these is that they only come with a manual in QF or diesel form. The diesel is a no-no for me as we have yearly diesel tax on top of normal road tax in Finland, and it's a grand a year for a giulia diesel. The QF is lovely, but our crazy car tax means its almost 200k new, so that's out of the question too. That leaves the smaller engined petrol models, but they are only available as automatics.
Aesthetically one of the best looking car in its class, however for a relatively new car, the fuel tank mount and part of the subframe are badly corroding. Now that says a lot.
85k miles is nothing for Alfa diesels, the engine isn't broken in yet properly. I've seen taxis with over 500k km's run strong, and there was a 147 1.9 JTD with over 880k km's on the original engine AND just a single turbo replacement, that was actually also chip tuned from 120hp to 160hp at about 600k km's.
Beautiful car! Only a shame that underneath the rust is comming up. Why don't they protect the bottom better? If i would own a new guilia the first thing that would happen is that it would get a full protective layer underneath. Apart from that it holds up perfectly! Love your video's Neil as always! I hope you are protecting your own Q?
I just sold my 17 plate diesel "Speciale" spec car, an electrical issue that stopped the engine, this in turn brought up every fault light on the dash, when the light show was done the car would start but the check engine light stayed on. Eventually took it to the Alfa dealer it came from, they reckon it was a relay that feeds the ECU. They fixed it, didn't fit a new relay though, after that I just had no faith in the car after two incidents that resulted in near misses. The car turned in 45mpg average over the period I had it, no rattles or squeeks from anywhere, they need using. Cam belt needs sorting at 60k miles, it's an Alfa only part.
All Alfas would deserve a proper rustproofing done by their owners. Some proper wax/oil to the underside and cavities, and the cars would last forever.
@@noircluck looks like it just sold to a chap in Manchester, swiftly replaced with another GTV 916 2.0 TS in Proteo with full Aero kit. Body is a mess, needs full paint job
Ciao vengo dall'Argentina. Volevo congratularmi con ciascuno dei membri di Italia Autos, un ottimo canale! Digli che possiedo un'Alfa Romeo 155 ´93 V6. Il sensore di velocità ha smesso di funzionare e non posso farlo nel mio paese, vorrei sapere quale altro sensore o sostituzione dell'originale posso mettere al suo posto? Apprezzo già la tua risposta e il tuo aiuto.
still think the qv is the one to have, drive a C 250 4 matic merc now. it s a bit dull to drive would change it for a qv. lets hope the new stelantis group gives alfa a fair chance. still dont understand why this did not sell better .
Nice cars but I really wouldn’t do a Diesel engine in any car let alone an Alfa! Surely the turbocharged petrol was a better option, but each to their own.
Don t like diesels either, but they have their place if you do a lot of miles. He does 30mpg around town, while my Giulietta veloce does 23mpg highway and around 17-18 in town. Wouldn t swap it though ;)
I've driven diesels for the last 20 years. For the last few years I did trips of about 1500km in one day. Had to drive a petrol the other day. No torque, too many revs. Not able to relax.
I think Alfa's "reliability" reputation might be even worse here in the U.S. since Alfa left the market from ~1995 to 2016. All those stories about a "friend's cousin twice removed" who had issues are at least 26 years old !😩
@@ItaliaAutos When I was a "wee lad" growing up in the 1970's in Northern Ohio, the snowy winters meant LOTS of salt on the roads. Cars rarely made it to 100,000 miles. Odometers only went to 99,999 before they would "turn over"! If a "miracle car" actually made it past 100,000, other dads in the neighborhood would stop by to see it themselves!😂
I was thinking of buying a guilia veloce, but after seeing the rust underneath on a 4 year old car, I'm shocked, it seems alfa haven't redressed the rust problems at all... and this small feature has cost them a sale... Terrible state underneath..
Worked on thousands of cars in 35yrs and the only rust worth a mention there is the mild steel tank strap. The way people talk of doom is too funny. You’ll see similar on most cars. More so if used near the coast. Nothing to see here.
exactly ! anybody who has not owned an Alfa is an expert! Oh they rusted @#$ but hmmmm so did Toyotas and Hondas and etc etc...... I know as I am on my 8th AR! yes you can't ignore maintenance like a Toyota but it's worth it!
well oil filter change and cabin air filter is not that easy as it's done on a mazda for example, so it's a lie about "Alfa design which actually thought"
a 4/ years old car now 5 and the rust is frankly shocking in all the alfa places from alfas gone by... similar story for the future here it would seem... baaaa alfa
@@ItaliaAutos Alfa clearly continue to use crap steel. Brera subframes rot totally out. My pal has a scruffy worthless 2001 Saab 9.3 convertible. I helped him fit a clutch and the subframe had to be pulled. Save a bit of surface rust the thing was 100% solid everywhere. The Alfa a disaster. Looking at those straps on the Giulia illustrates that the thing is going one way. The body itself will last like an Alfa 156 or Mito. But the rot will attack everything else underneath. I've looked at VW's, Renaults, BMW's and Toyota's. They are nothing like this Alfa. The only plus to celebrate here is that if this was say a 1978 Sud it would have been scrapped or welded to death after 5 odd years. Alfa have come a long way but are still inferior to their peers in corrosion protection..
Mine Giulia have now 252.000km and still going strong. Original turbo, injectors. Only part that l replace was EGR valve, becuose cooler was leaked. Suspension parts are original too. In two years of ownership no problems with electrics. But before l bought it, battery was replaced and l drive a lot whichever it can contribute to this. Overall l love it.
Wow!!! 252,000kms?? Gosh, you do drive a lot. Which country are you from? And which year you Giulia is from?
They are excellent cars
@@alexisamtosta hi lm from Slovenia and yes l drive quite a lot. Around 31.000 miles per year or around 50.000km. The car is year 2016
Still get, every time someone finds out what I drive, ‘oh so do you drive it or just take it to the garage and back?’
So boring. Especially when usually they’ve got a beemer or Merc that pings them for £500 every time a sensor goes bad.
Also glad to have the videos back on a Sunday morning with a cup of tea.
I'm tsame Craig, put a pot of coffee on and get up early, before the lazy buggers get out of thier pits.
Just drove from Inverness to Southampton (600 miles) in my Giulia 2.0T and it was a really comfortable ride. The car made the trip easy.
Awesome.
"Now you own one, you'll see them everywhere." So true.
Love Alfa's style, its always been style over content, you either love them or hate them, I chuckle to myself when I have to open the door on my Brera to adjust the lumbar support, others may shit a chicken having to go through this process. Personally I absolutely love em. Nice change for your latest vid Nelly, enjoyed it.
I have a 2021 2.0T, forest green with tan interior. Looks absolutely stunning and a blast to drive. It's my daily driver, putting about 2K miles/month on it. It never gets boring!
Nice colour,
Thank you for a great video about the diesel Alfa Giulia. You've really made motorists across the country rethink their next car choice. Thanks again. CV
Glad you liked it!
I love all the Alfas no matter what engine they have.
the giorgio's platform was simply too good
i have my Super 2.2 180hp, and simply love it! Almost no problems, just a problem with the panoramic roof.
132000km and counting!
Nice Video Neil! those starting rusty spots are good to know, since my hunt for an Giulia starts in a few weeks.
Good to see you did not quit youtube, Love your video's dude !
I had 145 twin spark, 159 and now Giulietta, each one filled my heart, Forza Alfisti
A guy in love with his car. That's great.
This particular car is the pre-lift version, which had antiquated telematic equipment. The MY 2020 lifting greatly improved the stereo and connectivity. Giulia is the best "3-series" on the market right now and I plan to purchase one of those cars.
My wife doesn't care too much about cars, but she had her eyes on the Stelvio. I bought her a Stelvio Sport 2.0T. Pretty amazing SUV because it drives like a car and sort of looks like a hot hatch. She loves it to bits.
Very nice.
My dream car! Have had a guiletta for last year and a half and completely in love with that. Next is a Guilia
good stuff.
Love seeing these driving experiences along with the more technical vids. Great stuff!
Glad you enjoy it!
Classic YT, start watching this great video, hop on autotrader straight after 😅
The only brand of car iv owned where a lot of other alfa owners will flash as you drive past and even more so when they see the aroc sticker ❤
Great video (as per usual!) This being the natural “upgrade” from my 159 it would be interesting to see the longer term effects on the fuel tank brackets and sub frame. Apart from that beautiful car 👌🏻
I have the same car with same interior but in alfa white ,best alfa I've owned ,love it
My mum has a 2,0 200hp petrol with the 8sp auto. Fuckin excellent car, 50,000km so far and hasn’t missed a beat.
they are good.
I think that looks stunning especially in that grey. Going to get a few more years out of my Giulietta JTDm as it's only on 95,000 miles and then when prices dip well under 10k I'll get one.
good stuff.
Lovely car, you've made me want one! Would love to have a 2.0T in a few years when they're cheaper.
Hi Neil , whats your take on the 2.0T petrol engines? Can't find any solid info online, one (200hp version) finally poped up where I am from for £15k with 45k miles and its begging to bought. Thoughts?
Have Stelvio 2.2d 210hp Q4 in same colour but black leather and less support to sides.
But love it to bits, especially into the tight bends... leave all others struggling through the twisties
Bugs me when people put budget tyres on a car like this.
Made in China...
there being changed as i noticed that.
Any car really- my 500£ 156 rides on Yokohamas, I cannot stand a thought that my life relies on some cheap rubber
Nice car. Only 4 years old though. Still the big problem is, every alfa indy garage (if you can find one) is a spit n sawdust place. Its great to not have to use these places anymore, despite the mechanics being perfectly sound. I don't miss a diesel either 😉
I have been lusting after the Veloce myself. It may replace my GT at some point.
Veloce is good well speced car.
That subframe/tank bracket. Is this common on the Giulia/Stelvio??
Yes, they've all got one.
@@timhancock6626 Ok, but i meant the rust
@@peterkleinveld9705 I'm afraid that because of UK winters and salty roads the pressed metal fittings on virtually all cars rust in that way, so In that respect it's no better and no worse than just about any other car. My Kia Sorento was dreadful in this respect.
Great car, love that red interior!
Lovely car👍
That interior looks beautiful.
Loved my Veloce except for the endless issues. Best handling / looking car I've owned.
What sort of issues did you have? Looking at used Veloces so keen to get as much info on potential problems as I can, thanks.
@@ewanwallace1
Mine was a brand new 17 plate car. The issues list is long...
1. Power fold mirror faulty, replaced under warranty.
2. 3 cases of check engine lights happening, limiting you to reduced power mode etc had to get breakdown out 3 times to reset (electrical fault I reckon).
3. All 4 wheel hub caps corroded.
4. 3 wheels had corrosion bubbling under the paint. (New wheels due under warranty)
5. Everytime it rained reasonably heavily, the alarm would go off multiple times even on reduced sensitivity.
6. Driving along the motorway and the drivers display just went totally blank (Only happened once). Obviously electrical issue.
7. Corrosion spotted on boot lip seam.
8. New pads and discs needed at 10k miles! Discs replaced under warranty, Obviously a manufacturing defect. A quick check of mot history showing it needed another new set at around 30k!
That's all I can remember for now.
Most beautiful, superb driving car I've ever had, but equally frustrating.
In so many ways a wonderful car, I just had a bad one I think.
Good luck.
@@Nick-vp7lp thanks for taking the time to reply. Have read of the rear brake wear from a few owners. It’s not very confidence inspiring. The other car I’m considering is a Lexus RC - more of a cruiser but the peace of mind is a big draw and at the mo that’s edging it.
@@ewanwallace1 lol I had an RCF as my last car
@@Nick-vp7lp You're joking?! I had been eyeing up the RC200t for the better performance over the 300h but they seem to be in very short supply. I have looked at the odd RCF as the servicing costs over the 200t/300h aren't as big of a step up as I imagined and tyres etc are not much more than my current car. There was a beautiful 2015 metallic red with cream leather for sale recently for a reasonable price but it's gone. Most advertised have the carbon bonnet which I'm not all that keen on. What was your experience with the RCF? Any unexpected bills/issues?
Love the red interior on that
My Giulia Veloce is a great drive, smooth , powerful, shame engine doesnt sound that good. Im currently been waiting a couple of months for a new infotainment screen as mine has started to bubble/ de-laminate😥
Ive just bought my Giulia Veloce a few days ago. Should have bought one sooner, love it! Only gripe at the moment is the heated seats don't get anywhere near as hot as my last car.
Heated seats in the summer? Lol
@@OggyGTA I know but it helps with a bad back
i just wish they did a sports diesel with the veloce wheels and styling especially the blue it comes in.
would be nice
I liked the format of having owner/customer with car. Some of those Giulias seem like a bargain there in UK. I think Giulia is one of the best looking newer sedans.
I totally agree!
a real great job done in mechanics & vids, congratulations, very interesting. So many skills & talents are rare !
The only issue i have with these is that they only come with a manual in QF or diesel form. The diesel is a no-no for me as we have yearly diesel tax on top of normal road tax in Finland, and it's a grand a year for a giulia diesel. The QF is lovely, but our crazy car tax means its almost 200k new, so that's out of the question too. That leaves the smaller engined petrol models, but they are only available as automatics.
Lovely car will buy one sometime my mito still smooth very low mileage auto 175 Brake horse .
Best of luck
Aesthetically one of the best looking car in its class, however for a relatively new car, the fuel tank mount and part of the subframe are badly corroding. Now that says a lot.
85k miles is nothing for Alfa diesels, the engine isn't broken in yet properly. I've seen taxis with over 500k km's run strong, and there was a 147 1.9 JTD with over 880k km's on the original engine AND just a single turbo replacement, that was actually also chip tuned from 120hp to 160hp at about 600k km's.
Beautiful car! Only a shame that underneath the rust is comming up. Why don't they protect the bottom better? If i would own a new guilia the first thing that would happen is that it would get a full protective layer underneath. Apart from that it holds up perfectly! Love your video's Neil as always!
I hope you are protecting your own Q?
Already done it.
@@ItaliaAutos Nice i did not expect anything else!
Oops, missed the premiere. Oh well, watch from the beginning now.
Enjoy
Change the oil filter in the q4 is a, sit
Love that interior brilliant video
One word, STUNNING!!🥰
Typical Alfa owner, a freaking legend.
I just sold my 17 plate diesel "Speciale" spec car, an electrical issue that stopped the engine, this in turn brought up every fault light on the dash, when the light show was done the car would start but the check engine light stayed on. Eventually took it to the Alfa dealer it came from, they reckon it was a relay that feeds the ECU. They fixed it, didn't fit a new relay though, after that I just had no faith in the car after two incidents that resulted in near misses.
The car turned in 45mpg average over the period I had it, no rattles or squeeks from anywhere, they need using. Cam belt needs sorting at 60k miles, it's an Alfa only part.
sounds like they typical battery issue.
@@ItaliaAutos It had a brand new Yuasa battery on it
What's the purpose of that plate on the under carriage at 6:25?
Heat shielded 🛡
All Alfas would deserve a proper rustproofing done by their owners. Some proper wax/oil to the underside and cavities, and the cars would last forever.
Without it it's clear the underside will destruct
Nice stuff Neil! do you have rusty spots on your Quad as well?
No I fully undersealed that.
@@ItaliaAutos I see, did you do it as a preventive maintenance thing as you would know it could happen?
Yep.
@@ItaliaAutos too smart :-) is this something to have done professionally I am assuming right?
LOved the video Neil!
Is it worth you reviewing my 2004 facelift Alfa 166 2.0 TS Lusso 6 speed? Probably lowest mileage one in country on 70k.
Think it would be
I would like to see that! love the facelift 166.
@@noircluck looks like it just sold to a chap in Manchester, swiftly replaced with another GTV 916 2.0 TS in Proteo with full Aero kit. Body is a mess, needs full paint job
Ciao vengo dall'Argentina. Volevo congratularmi con ciascuno dei membri di Italia Autos, un ottimo canale! Digli che possiedo un'Alfa Romeo 155 ´93 V6. Il sensore di velocità ha smesso di funzionare e non posso farlo nel mio paese, vorrei sapere quale altro sensore o sostituzione dell'originale posso mettere al suo posto? Apprezzo già la tua risposta e il tuo aiuto.
thanks try one of an alfa 145 there the same
still think the qv is the one to have, drive a C 250 4 matic merc now. it s a bit dull to drive would change it for a qv. lets hope the new stelantis group gives alfa a fair chance. still dont understand why this did not sell better .
Stealing customers away from the Germans is no easy task Jan, especially when you have a tiny marketing budget and a mere handful of dealers.
Such a shame alfa did not produce the sportswagon version of the Guilia.....
very much so.
Great video!
Is it just me or is there sort of a occasional scrubbing sound thought the whole driving part of the video?
It’s the phone rubbing on the windscreen I’m afraid.
Nice cars but I really wouldn’t do a Diesel engine in any car let alone an Alfa! Surely the turbocharged petrol was a better option, but each to their own.
Don t like diesels either, but they have their place if you do a lot of miles. He does 30mpg around town, while my Giulietta veloce does 23mpg highway and around 17-18 in town. Wouldn t swap it though ;)
I've driven diesels for the last 20 years. For the last few years I did trips of about 1500km in one day. Had to drive a petrol the other day. No torque, too many revs. Not able to relax.
I think Alfa's "reliability" reputation might be even worse here in the U.S. since Alfa left the market from ~1995 to 2016. All those stories about a "friend's cousin twice removed" who had issues are at least 26 years old !😩
Yep always been a problem in the UK since the 70s about rust. But all cars from the 70s rust away.
@@ItaliaAutos When I was a "wee lad" growing up in the 1970's in Northern Ohio, the snowy winters meant LOTS of salt on the roads. Cars rarely made it to 100,000 miles. Odometers only went to 99,999 before they would "turn over"! If a "miracle car" actually made it past 100,000, other dads in the neighborhood would stop by to see it themselves!😂
I was thinking of buying a guilia veloce, but after seeing the rust underneath on a 4 year old car, I'm shocked, it seems alfa haven't redressed the rust problems at all... and this small feature has cost them a sale... Terrible state underneath..
How many of the competition have you seen the underside of 😀👍
@@ItaliaAutos more than enough to know this is bad for 4 years old..
Worked on thousands of cars in 35yrs and the only rust worth a mention there is the mild steel tank strap. The way people talk of doom is too funny. You’ll see similar on most cars. More so if used near the coast. Nothing to see here.
Nice Speciale
I wish they had diesel version in the states
shame they dont.
Seem to have a more accesible air filter than the 159 2.4 jtdm
Oh yes
exactly ! anybody who has not owned an Alfa is an expert! Oh they rusted @#$ but hmmmm so did Toyotas and Hondas and etc etc...... I know as I am on my 8th AR! yes you can't ignore maintenance like a Toyota but it's worth it!
Here for the countdown 🤪
Enjoy.
Another great video 👍 keep up the good content 👏
Diesel?, no tx
well oil filter change and cabin air filter is not that easy as it's done on a mazda for example, so it's a lie about "Alfa design which actually thought"
And they always say diesels are no good for short journeys 🤔
It's the particle filters. Just take it on a 30 minute motorway drive once a month.
Gorges rims
a 4/ years old car now 5 and the rust is frankly shocking in all the alfa places from alfas gone by... similar story for the future here it would seem... baaaa alfa
damn they are sooooooo cheap in UK
they way he says coupe creeps me out... no
Bolsonaro 2022
Should be ashamed driving an Alfa Romeo Giulia on those tires
This thing at 5 years old is rotting out.
The underside will be a disaster in 2/3 years...
how many other makes of cars of this age have you seen on the ramp.
@@ItaliaAutos
Alfa clearly continue to use crap steel. Brera subframes rot totally out. My pal has a scruffy worthless 2001 Saab 9.3 convertible. I helped him fit a clutch and the subframe had to be pulled. Save a bit of surface rust the thing was 100% solid everywhere. The Alfa a disaster.
Looking at those straps on the Giulia illustrates that the thing is going one way. The body itself will last like an Alfa 156 or Mito. But the rot will attack everything else underneath.
I've looked at VW's, Renaults, BMW's and Toyota's. They are nothing like this Alfa. The only plus to celebrate here is that if this was say a 1978 Sud it would have been scrapped or welded to death after 5 odd years. Alfa have come a long way but are still inferior to their peers in corrosion protection..
Faults, faults and more faults.. - say something positive for once ;-)