Top 5 Kamado Charcoal Grills (Kamado Joe vs Big Green Egg vs Primo vs Weber)
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Oh boy do we have a fun video today! We are going in with the new updated top 5 Kamado’s in 2021! A lot of new exciting things have come out this year and this video will showcase many new features these kamados have to offer.
Let’s go from worse to best, although the worst is still an amazing grill. Ranks at Number 1 we go into the Kettle Joe brought to you by Kamado Joe
5. Kettle Joe.
This new model from Kamado works wonders! This grill is made out of metal. It comes with the classic smoke roller that comes with all Kamado joe’s. Another really awesome feature is the fact that this bad boy has ceramic plates that hold heat inside the firebox! This will help to hold heat in low and slow cooking settings as well as in a searing setting!
4. Big Green Egg
We take a look at the Big Green Egg at the number 4 spot. We see with this staple of a brand that not much has changed over the years. They have been around forever but have failed with innovative. Not much new tech has been added to the grill. Since we everyone has been around green egg and they are such a big company there is no denying that they are one of the best in the market still. One thing that we love with this model is the variety of sizes as well as all the accessories that Big Green Egg has produced!
3. Primo Kamado
Primo, where do we begin. With primos patented oval shape there is a lot to love about this grill. For example we are able to fit a variety of meats on this bad boy. As far as tech goes, they are a little behind on improving their product but none the less it’s still one of the best Kamado’s in this class. With its high quality ceramic it really can cook any meet to perfection.
2. Weber Kamado Series
Ohh boy did Weber surprise us with this one. Rank number 2 in it’s class in our opinion the Weber Kamado really blew the previous grills out of the water! We see with this Weber that the enamel finish is highly durable. So much so that we were able to take a knife to the finish without scratching the thing! Another great feature is the ignite system. This allows you to light your charcoal without taking a blow torch to it. We also love the air control, that doubles as an ash agitator. This allows you to clean your ash in a very easy and efficient way. Weber really did a great job on this product.
1. Kamado Joe Classic III
It comes at no surprise that the Kamado Joe ranks in at number 1. Why is that though? We think that Kamado really sets itself apart from other brands with its innovation. All the features you have seen on the previous grills mentioned, Kamado Joe has almost always come out with it first. They are leading the Kamado category with new features, and as a result all the other companies have been following suite. Because of that the Kamado industry has been really booming lately.
Those are our Top 5 kamados for 2021! We hop you enjoyed the video! If you need make sure to like an subcribe and comment! Thanks for watching!
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Great review of the different Kamado style grills. Much appreciated and helped me in my decision to get the KJ classic lll
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When you guys reference another video, you should drop links to it in the description or something so we can see it if we want to...just a suggestion. Great content
Good ide
This really is a GREAT bbq channel. I come here first and trust the reviews above all others when I'm researching a product I don't know about. I enjoy the subtle humor, too. I usually end up watching the entire videos even when I don't plan to and don't skip through.
Someone, please buy this guy some tighter shirts, tho. His buttons haven't popped off yet. They're trying, but not quite there yet.
Thanks for watching!
Love this channel. Thanks for all the videos. Didn’t even know half these brands or grills even existed.
I need a coyote gas grill and Kamado Joe in my life!
Thanks for watching!! Of course we love to help people! You'd be surprised there are lot more than this!!
You definitely do it'll change your whole outdoor experience!
Love my kamado joe classic 3 !
Glad you love it!!
With Kamado Joe I would like to add that they make new improvements backwards compatible. I have a classic 2 but I could buy the roller and run it on the older product. They not only take care of new customers with innovation but they do not leave their older customers out in the rain. Great video thanks
Oh my what a great point! thanks for bringing that out!! You are right they do not leave their passed customers behind! All accessories are compatible with older models! Thank you
ff@@embersliving Sorry, but my experience with customer service (I have a Series 1 Big Joe) has been the single worst of my life. In the 5 years I've owned the cooker the hinge failed, the dome cracked and the base cracked. Replacement of the hinge took months and forced me to put a screw-eye above the cooker with a ratcheting pulley to hold the lid open,
When the dome cracked it took months for a replacement to arrive which was too small so I went several more months with what was then a completely unusable product.
Same and worse. with replacing the base, It took 8 MONTHS to arrive and again was an inch smaller in diameter than the lid. They have told me that they are shipping a matched pair but all.attempts to find out when continue to go unanswered.
ALL TOLD, MY BIG JOE HAS BEEN OUT OF COMMISSION FOR OVER 2 YEARS!
My apologies for posting this on your channel as I find you to be one of the most informed and candid resellers on TH-cam but my frustration has made me desperate.
p.s. FYI, none of the Series 3 accessories fit the Series 1.
8/9/22 UPDATE- Kamado Joe finally solved the problem... they shipped me a complete, in box, series 1 replacement. To omit this would be dishonest.
That said, with my decades of BBQ experience I would recommend either a Bronco Pro or a Weber Summit Charcoal (steel kamado) over any ceramic cooker. While I think Weber products have become some of the worst on the market in recent years, the 'kamado' solves a few problems inherent in ceramics: it heats/cools much faster (but is still efficient), it is lightweight and easy to move around and it is essentially unbreakable. And less $! The Bronco Pro, while technically a drum smoker, is an excellent drum, direct grill, flat smoker and 'kamado' cooker as well. With either product I can't recommend the addition of a Fireboard Controller with Fan.
@@foodonfire3662 Are these markrt supply issues with covid, or geographic issues ... or were sold a smaller product with the series III label? Sounds like a terrible customer experience.
Just bought the Primo Oval Jr. and am delighted. The all-in-one rolling cart shelves are not made to sit on but work just fine as side tables for a grill. The wheels roll just fine on my concrete paver patio. I suppose the cart could have heavier duty side tables but don't see any reason to spend money that way.
The oval design and high quality of the grill make the Primo #1 for me as I cook very little round food.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, Nice video greets from Holland 🇾🇪
Thanks for watching!
Nice video!
Thanks!
Great Video...and i know why i love my Joe..s soon ill get the big boy
we love it too
You guys do a great job. Informative, fun, and helpful.
Only wish I lived closer than Indiana.
Thank you so much, glad you enjoy the content!
I have the kettle Joe and the classic Joe. I really like the kettle. It heats faster than the ceramic but also cools faster. As far as cooking the kettle with the slow roller is great. If you’re cooking a brisket and have had trouble with drying out the bottom of one the slow roller is amazing now vs my GMG pellet grill elevating the meat away from the firebox and putting a additional heat shield device to prevent the drying. The kettle agin is my favorite. Much better smoke ring and ribs that are moist without any spritzing. For a person on a budget the kettle Joe is the winner. Coming in at $500 vs $800 for the cheapest classic Joe that doesn’t come with a slow roller it’s another $300. A trick I use is a piece of metal or a large pizza stone that fills in close too the edges of the sidewalls it does a good job replicating the smoke rolling action. It makes a little difference not worth stressing over.
I looked at those Kamodo Kamdos. Wow $6400 I like the tile finish on them and the oval styles.
Kamado Joe is always a solid choice. Yeah the Kamado Kamado is crazy!! I wish we could get ahold of one.
I am into the primo xl with accessories. Yes, a chunk of dollars no matter how you separate the equipment. I have my own stand, but will modify that later. (Nothing like the primo stands) It works.
Could, should, would I add the KJ if I did not already have the Primo XL? Maybe
However, the Primo XL is made in the USA and it works fricking awesome.
Thanks for the reviews, nicely done.
yeah thats tough because the primo is a great machine
Totally agree with you re complacency of the other manufacturers. Kamado Joe have embraced it and are now reaping the rewards. I always do my own research and bought the KJ Classic III - it’s excellent! 👍
Well said!
@@jasons6229 it’s 2 weeks old, today. I’m in the UK, got it from BBQLand, they were one of very few who had them in stock. I wanted one last year but they were hard to acquire and by the time most suppliers had them the year was over, so waited till this year. It’s good to see that the at they are still in demand.
Char broil will introduce their model and it will rust out in 3 years.😳😳
Yep, but it’s not oval. And for that alone I won’t buy it. The Primo just fits meat better
The blaze kamado is amazing. Easy top 5
thanks !
I have my Summit delivered last week. I used it for the first time this weekend. After the first use, I cleaned up the ashes with one touch. Then I noticed that metal wings from the one touch system did actually scratch the enamel. Have you spotted if the one touch system scratches the bowl in your Summit?
nice review of all of the smokers . I did my research on all these my self and found the Kamdo was the best choice also, the weber isn't perfect when it comes to the seal, the smoke comes out from the sides. I wanted to buy the Primo also but I kept coming back to the Kamado Big Joe. You're right it's a$$$ but it's an investment , but the smaller one is just as good with other means if you don't do monster briskets,I tend to do monster briskets . That said , great video !!
Brad.
thanks for the feedback
Slow N Sear has a kamado style grill now. Supposed to do two zone much better than typical kamados. I wonder how it compares to the Primo.
Really? We will definitely have to look into that!! Thanks for the info! We will have to put it to the test at some point!!
@@embersliving I would love to get your opinion on the SNS kamado- from watching this I think you would be blown away....
I have a weber summit grill like the one you have in this review. Like all grills the stainless grills will eventually wear out get thin and have to be replaced. I've rebuilt mine from rust once in 5 years. If you have a male dog he will kill your steel cart on this grill from hiking his leg. Thank God weber is made in the u.s.a. now the good part. It doesn't dry out the meat like the others. Moist and the technology evolved cooking butts, brisket and leg of lamb come out perfect like it was smoked on a competition grill. In 5 years I've used less coal and only a meat probe. Ceramic seems to dry out and required spritzing and fans to control the heat. Not the summit I can hold heat at 189 degrees for hours. 225 it's amazing. Bad side. The rust. Can only smoke 2 Carolina racks of ribs and 1/2 at a time. What would make it better ? Better grade of stainless steel cooking grates and grate holders. Stainless steel cart. And that's it folks. That's a 5 year review. If you could see the photos of my cooks.
nice!
Is there much of a difference between the 2 & 3? Besides the price. What makes the 3 better.?
Thank you In advance for response
the Primo is made of ceramic and very solid and heavy feeling. The weber has more of that kettle feeling . The primo can be considered better because some of the accessories that come with it. It's really just prefrence. I like how more solid and strong the primo feels compared to the weber
Can't wait, my classic 3 is one week away. Thanks for the positive reinforcement on my purchase.
Oh awesome! You're gonna love it! Glad we could help a bit!
how have you been liking it?mine is on its way today to home,cant wait to receive it
Regrets?
I recently moved out of an apartment in the big city and now live in a remote, rural area in a house with plenty of outdoor space, so I wanted to get into grilling. (I've never grilled before. Don't even know how.) Is the Kamado Joe or really are any of these worth it for someone who doesn't even know how to grill yet?
It might take you some time to learn to control the heat.. If you're not smoking anything id go with a gas grill tbh
When are you going to cook on the Weber Summit Kamado? Curious how it does.
not for a bit unfortunately
Gonna lay down my opinion.
I had a Kamado Joe Classic 1 for three years. At the time, it my my favorite cooker. And still, it is a great kamado to choose. My biggest issue is the fact that they sold out to Masterbilt. The have no phone number to call and talk to tech support and the only way to file a claim is online. They almost never work with you with these claims and constantly want to reject them. They have probably the worst customer service I have ever dealt with in the BBQ world. Another big issue is the ceramic heat deflectors are TRASH! They break all the time even with drip pans. In the 3 years I had mine, I had 5 sets break. I sold it and picked up a Weber Summit Charcoal. Weber has some of the best customer service. I had an issue with my older mastertouch, and they just replaced the whole damn grill. Not that I don't respect your selection, but I am speaking from true experience.
thanks for the feedback
Good vid..
thanks for the feedback
Weber E6 or kettle joe? Which one would you recommend? I need to purchase ASAP!!
They are both really good . id probably go joe
Kamado Joe for me hands down!
good to know
Have you considered for review the Ever-Embers Ceramic Egg Pellet Grill ?
Nice that looks cool. If we can get ahold of one yes.
What is your opinion regarding the Vision Kamado grill?
Never used it before, but it looks great.
Big Green Egg- the Blackberry of the BBQ world- sat on their laurels whilst other brands innovated and took their market.
Weber Summit Kamado is one I’m getting (have a ceramic now but need bigger). All the advantages of ceramic but lighter and less likely to break. Big Joe size at half price.
Yes if Big Joe and Weber Summit were same price I’d maybe get the Big Joe but at half price for the same real estate, that’s the winner.
thanks for the feedback
I have a big Joe kamado Joe. I bought it used on Craig’s list but it’s not red, it’s green! I google like crazy to find out and all I get is big green egg mumbojumbo. So do you know anything about this? BTW, love it nothing I have used it for has not been excellent!!
yeah all Kamado joes are red. It sounds like you got a BGE. The Kamado Joe is more expensive and comes with accessories. The BGE is like OG of ceramic grills. It's really solid, but a little basic.
@@embersliving I just learned from another guy on you tube that kamado Joe once made a blue version, though he has never seen a green one. Mine is a dark forest green, almost black and it has kamado Joe tags stand…a bunch of tools and such and my DoJoe fits it perfectly and everything so I’m certain it’s a kamado Joe. It’s a solid unit. Just wondering the back story I guess.
Thanks for the reply!
Update: I learned that kamado Joe once made a black kamado. Apparently mine is not green, it’s blk…the never ending debate that “I’m not color blind” continues:)
I was on the market for a new grill (been with weber for 6 years) when to a dealer and was amazed about the quality and simplicity of the big joe. well I bought it. 199% satisfied.
Oh awesome! Glad you are enjoying the Big Joe!
How does this Weber Summit Kamado compare to the first version (Summit Charcoal)? All the changes seemed to reduce the features and content of the grill to reduce the sale price and not really as an improvement...
Yes that is exactly what has happened
@@embersliving can you buy the accessories and features they removed from Weber after the fact and make it as good as the OG Summit Charcoal?
@@triaxe-mmb curious, what did they remove? The Summit Kamado hasn't reached Australia yet. What did they remove and how much cheaper is it?
Why have you not compared the Monolith Kamado grill? It seems to be built better and comes with more accessories. Have you seen one or reviewed one? Seems like it would go head to toe with Kamado Joe or be better. Or can you not sell it?
You can add any of the third party digital controllers to one of these and it will do the same thing as that monolith kamado. The video is comparing the big brands against each other
thanks for the feedback
ok that oval one where you can remove the bottom and have the coal in lower should cut down on burning. if I were in the market I would check that out.
nice
You need to check out the Kong from Grilla Grills. It's an awesome product at a terrific price.
thanks for the feedback
Would you cook brisket or butt for 8 to 12 hours on this grill. If so how would you go about adding more wood to maintain your constant heat temperature. I don’t see a way to load more wood into the grill without disturbing your cook
true, it is harder to do for sure. I would recommend just doing wood for the first hour or so of the cook, when the most smoke gets in there anyways
In this video the Joe’s are the best IMO. A Komodo Kamado is next level if $ is no object. They all cook great at the end of the day.
This is a very very accurate honest video.
I respect that 100%. And I fully agree with you. The Joe’s are the absolute best plan. Your rankings also I agree with.
The final product from any of these will be a step above regular kettles.
The Joe accessories are fantastic. 2 zone cooking is possibly the most important feature.
Enjoy-it’s going to be a great summer!
thanks for the feedback
Can you re-re-revise this and add the Blaze Cast Aluminum to the roundup?
we do have an updated video here th-cam.com/video/M2MuwuIdX0o/w-d-xo.html
@@embersliving I’ll have to watch it, I see it has the Cast Iron kamado, but not the Blaze Aluminum. Both durable Kamados but at wildly different price points.
I ordered and paid a 21" Kamado from Auplex Industries. It was never shipped to destination. It instead snagged at transit customs and Auplex never shipped to destination. So heads up ...
oh shoot
Have a BGE since 2002, being a long time user, helps, but if you dont or never use it, you cannot make comments about what you have.
Yes it does have a clean out system. Also you do not need a water pan in a ceramic cooker/smoker, the ceramic prevent heat and moisture from escaping, unlike a metal unit. And you can crank the unit up to 500-800 deg for Pizzas.
I own the Kamado Joe Classic 3 and Joe Junior, owned a couple of months now. My friend & colleagues all own BGE. Personally for me, I went with the Joe as they are innovating, making changes, gasket upgrade, hinge, control tower, better stand etc. However, the BGE is amazing, it should have got at least no.2 on this list if not compete directly with the Joe. The BGE does get an ash tray and all these grills work on radiant and convection heat so no water pan needed so absolutely agree with you. I do believe however BGE have sat still a bit, but one could argue why change what works? This is why we have choice I suppose…… 👍
nice
Thanks for a super review. If I was in the states I’d definitely buy from you.
I’m a Weber fan. I love my gas Genesis for “day to day” use …. BUT I want a charcoal ceramic grill for searing steak and smoking.
Everyone in Europe seems to buy the big green egg. Im struggling with the high price of the Kammado Joe.
Here is Europe Costco sell a brand called Louisiana grills (24inch) … May I ask ? Does anyone have any experience of this ?
that I cant speak to
I have the Louisiana, it’s been great. Costco had it for $600, great at that price.
I have the Summit Kamado and am not super stoked on the build quality of the unit. The hinge/ring the hinge mounts to just seems flimsy compared to the Kamado Joes and other ceramic cookers, the cart is pretty wonky (the wheels aren't great). Also the fact that they removed the solid shelf on the bottom is a real piss-off, along with the cheapening of the diffuser plate. That being said, their price reduction to the Canadian market was not equivalent to what they did to the US either so that is just icing on the cake.
The other thing with the Kamado is the lower vent vs. every other one where the stepped intake size can create a bit of a difficult control situation since it isn't linear like the KJs or BGEs- which is made a little bit worse because the KJ has a nice deep firebox so with the diffusers in, you still have plenty of airflow to control combustion, but with the Kamado you have the diffuser right on top of the coal bed, which can choke the fire pretty easily.
thanks for the feedback
The red doesn’t blend with the surroundings. Ended up getting a big green egg. Paired with a solid wood table, can’t beat it
Sounds nice
How do you add more coals throughout?
on most of them you dont really need to refill it during a cook
Red is The best 👌
thanks for the feedback
is it tho?
Quick question.... what do you recommend for a Bluetooth or wifi bbq thermometer? Something that's durable and good longevity? TIA
Meater!
@@embersliving is it durable though? I'd hate to drop it and it breaks easily. Which model? Just needing 1 for ambient temp and low n slow.
@@timandrews4722 That greatly depends on your situation (what you're cooking, cookers, layout, lifestyle/house, etc) and your personal preferences.
- The range on Bluetooth devices like the Meater is pretty weak. Meater's effective range can be OK if you have a second device to relay the signal over WiFI, but without that you're going to have to stick really close to keep an eye on the temperature, especially if your cooker is surrounded by thick metal.
- If you don't need or want to monitor over the internet with a smartphone, I'd recommend the Thermoworks Smoke x2 or x4, which is RF/radio (not wifi). Unlike the original smoke, the range is crazy good.
-If you want WiFi/internet or want a more sophisticated thermometer, your best bet is the Fireboard 2 IMO. If you get the Drive model it can run a blower off its built-in battery and regulate the temperature of charcoal cookers with its built-in PID algorithm (works very well!). Thermoworks makes a lot of good products (I have a bunch of their other stuff), but when you get into the more advanced models with more ports, blowers, WiFI-native, etc, Fireboard is the way to go IMO.
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I've got a Meater+ and it's worked OK for me so far. I do trust my thermoworks and fireboard devices better (speed, accuracy, reliability, and probably long-term lifespan) and pull them out for longer cooks. For me the main selling point on the meater+ is no (probe) wires to contend with (nice on quick cooks or when moving food to different devices) and that it's compatible with rotisserie (it's main selling point for me). Since I have a spare tablet I can keep tabs on things around the house (or even away), but without it I'd have to be right outside my patio door to pick it up even with the Bluetooth range-extending device in between. The Meater block presumably addresses that with its built-in WiFi feature, but I haven't tried that (dont see much advantage if you have a spare tablet/smartphone and dont need to monitor multiple probes at once).
I don't know if I'd recommend Meater yet as a generic all-around BBQ thermometer since I suspect the hardware is less robust and the company has done some shady things in the past (wouldn't want to lean heavily on their warranty, for example). AmazingRibs.com is probably your best bet for thermometer reviews, tho I figured I'd lay it out in broad strokes, as I see it.
amazingribs.com/ratings-reviews/thermometers/
@@petel5692 I'm looking at a wifi Inkbird. I don't need anything fancy for our Smokin Brothers grill. Just ambient temp and meat.
@@timandrews4722 I'm not familiar with that specific model, but I'd guess that's a safer bet for your needs than a Bluetooth-based devices like the Meater. Much rides on how good the WiFi stack is and the maturity of their smartphone software (some devices fare poorly in both), tho the reviews look pretty good (esp. for that price point). I think you're likely to have a somewhat smoother experience with something like Fireboard 2 and find that it'll hold up longer in the long run (software updates, replacement probes, etc), but the price difference isn't insignificant, of course.
BTW-I find these devices are useful for things other than just BBQ (cooking indoors in the oven, monitoring oil temp for frying outdoors, etc), so mine get a lot of use.
What about the blaze aluminum?
thats a good one too
I just honestly can’t get behind the red. In my opinion. Big green egg is more appealing to the eye. However I won’t buy one until they make more accessories standard.
the red is tough I agree
A tripod might be a good investment
We have since got multiple tripods and stableizers. Thanks for watching!
I didn't hear you mention how low the Primo is. You said you did not like low to the ground. Watching this video, you are a Primo guy. I on the other hand have a BGE I have been using for the past 15 years with NO issues. I guess I am a Big Green Egg guy. By the way, BGE has an oval shaped smoker.
Nice! Trevor is actually putting a primo in his new outdoor kitchen.
Kamado Joe should have been named Immortan Joe Fury Road Edition.
lol
Where's the Goldens' Cast Iron Cooker?
we are working on it
I'm sure it's a fine kettle grill. But for $1000+ you can by the real deal full ceramic Komodo not just a kettle with a double walled lid. Ceramic retains heat in wind conditions and less charcoal needed for slow cooking.
thanks for the feedback
nice video review. Im a BGE owner and user, and like it just fine. But my next Kamado will likely be a different brand ...... there is no substitute for grill grate real-estate, so I am upping to the big-dog!
Big Dog in the House!
Love my Primo oval xxl but the new ownership doesnt stand behind the product ........My Primo keep getting cracks in the ceramic .
whattt
I love my Primo . The new ownership isnt loyal. My ceramic cracked 2x. The new company should either stand behind the warranty or mak an improvement.
Been using primo oval xl… their ceramic material is far superior to Kamado (China) or Big green egg (Mexico). Oval shape is far superior to round, especially for brisket. The company absolutely stands behind their product and warranty if you get a cracked fire box.
Yup thats also what Trevor put into his outdoor kitchen.
Whatever. Bought my first Kettle Joe for £500 backed by nothing Fiat. Bought my second for £270 with a cover. Happy days.
Surprised Vision didn't make the cut.
Maybe next year!
Weber is the best overall.
yeah they are solid
You seem out of breath, hope it's not covid and that your ok. Great review
thanks for your concern,
Lol wtf
Nich.
yes
For making burgers and italians and steaks. I use a basic gas grill and find it awesome. I like the idea of the ceramic idea to hold heat. Does anyone do that style grill with gas parts for heat instead of charcoal?
I dont think so
You could buy a gas pizza oven. Could probably get away with making steaks and burgers in one of those. Maybe with a cast-iron pan. Then you can make pizza when you’re in the mood for that.
Yes, Vision grills C series kamado has an insert where you have the option to use propane or natural gas. If you don't want to use charcoal.
I don’t know how you can patent making a kamado grill an oval
I know
Informative vid but you need help with lighting; you’re standing in shadow and it’s distracting. Background is much brighter than product being shown.
thanks for the feedback
I thought the Everdure 4K was going to be on this Top 5 list?
it got bumped. It was in our top 5 last year
If KJ wasn't manufactured in China this would be a no-brainer. But it is so ... damn.
thanks for the feedback
I agree. I would buy without hesitation if made in the US. Otherwise, I have to look at Primo as I shop
Where's the Akorn???
I ran into one of those at Lowe's yesterday. Interesting little fella.
thanks for the feedback
Those things rust out so it's probably in the trash by now.
@@nicg9599 not if you take care of them, and really it's just the bottom ash catcher which costs $40 to replace
@@maisie9867 Still cheaply made
Thanks. Yes the analogy I used is like buying a tire rated for 200MPH for your Toyota Prius. If the car can’t go 200MPH the fact that it’s rated for 200MPH is a little silly. Primo ceramics are kiln fired to the highest temp… a temp the grill cannot achieve. So given the top brands all offer lifetime warranty it’s a bit of a mute point IMO
thanks for the insight James!
BGE all the way.
ok
I really think Goldens Cast Iron Kamado beats out all those. The durability is unmatched. The integrated hinge system will never go bad when you close the lid. It's truly made in America, in Georgia. It's all cast iron. There are 2 sizes for it. The warranty is unmatched. And it's just an overall bad ass cooker. But it never gets a whole lot of love when people talk kamados. I wish more people would know about it. I'm really glad I went with Goldens over Kamado joe. I just hear too much about durability with them. I can slam my cast iron lid down every day all day and never have a problem. And that peace of mind is awesome.
thanks for the feedback
OVAL SHAPE is the ONLY way to go!!! Unless you plan to never smoke briskets and ribs. Primo wins by a mile
agree
Komodo Kamado is the best
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I don't understand the issue with Primo is. You explain why is is basically the best design for actual cooking. You explain that they have updated the hinge and top. Obviously, the all in one is just a way to not have it sitting on the ground, fair enough. Then you say that they need to show the brand some love and fix some things but you don't say what that is. Dealer service? Item design?
I really don't have a dog in the fight. I've had a Vision for years and have a new gravity feed pit showing up any day now. It just seems like you are intentionally trying to not say something in particular. I understand that you don't want to be truly negative on any brand you sell but my spidy sense was very tingly watching that.
item design is fine, its more in the context that they just redesigned it, but nothing is really new, or better for that matter, that is what we are irritated about
And the winner is… Big green egg…
BGE is a solid choice. not my fav but still up there
I don't get your complaints about Primo. You say "giving the brand a little love" - that's such a nebulous comment. Do you want more accessories? Better advertising? There's a ton of redesigns that added value. You keep saying "you can see that in another video". Bro, learn to link your videos. This was the first video I've seen of yours. Based on vagueness of reviews and lazieness in editing, I'm not going to take the time to find your other videos.
Scott, Trevor ended up buying a primo for his new outdoor kitchen. check it out th-cam.com/video/42DtRNMfGH0/w-d-xo.html
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The ceramic on the primo and the BGE is far superior. Granted the value point on the Kamado Joe is on point but i don’t like the firebox on the Kamado Joe!
You could not possibly be more wrong.
from what I understand Noah is correct, however, its really a non issue because you really dont need it to be that superior
I'd rather buy 2k worth of filet minion and eat that for 40 months
sounds good
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Niche the word is Niche not nitch, a nitch in the market doesn't mean anything, Niche means a specific place :)
Nice or is it niche
a specialized segment of the market for a particular kind of product or service.
"he believes he has found a niche in the market"
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I respect the analysis but without cooking it is like analyzing 5 vehicles without driving them, totally subjective, everyone has their experience, but in the backyard the PRIMO definitely wins!
Thanks for watching! we do have cook videos on some of those models.
@@embersliving Great channel, thanks !!
OMG!!! The “I” in niche is pronounced as an E. Hence the work “niche” is pronounced “Knee-sh”. Not “nitch”. English!!! Do it properly!!!
Otherwise great vid. Very helpful.
Thanks for watching! won't happen again
you want to educate me?
we try
BGE vs Kamado Joe....no comparison. The Joe is the clear winner: better value through better customer orientation, better standard features and included items, better gaskets, better heat control, better hinge / lift-ability of top, and better innovation driven through continuous improvement. BGE sits on the laurels and, I predict, will get lost in the shuffle...similar to the way GM has in the auto industry where the Japanese and Koreans are absolutely kill'in it.
yup 😁
Did you ever replaced the kamado joe gasket?
You get what you pay for
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Take "super" out of your vocab it's super annoying
super good feedback thanks
@@embersliving lol
Bro, you need to start getting some exercise, you sound like you're about to pass out! Love the video though!
bad mic setting but I appreciate the concern
To bad all the ceramic kamados have the same cleaning issieu...
Thats why the summit wins for me hans down, and I'm a Weber fanboy :D
Yeah you're right a lot of kamados don't make it easy for you to clean out! We agree that the Summit has one of the best! Also the Kamado Joe has a great clean out system as well! Thanks for watching!
My only issue with the BGE is it's made in Mexico. I went with the XL out the door from ACE for $1650 with XL BGE, nest, conveggtor and ash tool. The warranty means a lot as well. If something breaks, I call ACE, show them the broken part and get a new part. Can't beat that. I don't want to be forced into having to buy everything KJ offers in the same size for $1K more. You can look for sales on every accessory on Amazon for all of these. Also, the newest KJ is the best one to go with because of the cap and other things but you have to buy all their accessories with it. The cap new caps on the BGE are awesome. The gasket on the BGE is perfectly fine and doesn't leak. Food tastes just as good in it as any of the others. The best thing KJ does is their charcoal. Can't beat it. I will own a Joe Jr in the near future because of the price and it weighs a good bit less than the BGE mini max. Good video
thanks for the feedback
These reviews are horrible "its like your grandpa boring but reliable" " there's no way to clean it" what you need is a VJ memorial marching music. put it in front of an American flag. and get excited pretty lady to yell "these grills are hot, hot , hot"
That would help
OMG stop pronouncing niche as nitch!
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This guy is so self-centered it distracts from the review.
Hahah alrighty! Thanks for watching nonetheless
He comes off a tad cocky but I've never met him in person. For all we know, he could be a solid dude that treats his employees well. At the end of the day, he's a salesman. He can't be boring. Nobody would buy anything from him.
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Top 5 kamados for the more money than brains club. Get the Akorn. It's $300 and basically all the KJ accessories work on it. It's a bargain.
thanks for the feedback
It also rusts out in a couple years. there's a reason it's $300
@@nicg9599 I got one 8 years ago, used form my brother in law. I have it on a covered porch and I still use it today. The retaining wire for the ash tray is the only item that rusted to the point I removed it. The ash pan is still connected with the side clips, you just have to hold it up to get it attached instead of sliding it in. I actually prefer it because the wire didn't work easily. It just isn't true that they are junk and fall apart quickly. Functionally it will do anything a KJ will do for 1/4 the price. I even bought a second one.
There is obviously nothing wrong with the KJ and nothing wrong with buying one. But anyone who lusts over a Kamado and can't afford one should get the Acorn. They won't be missing a thing. Plus you can cook on it for five years while saving money and any accessory you buy will work when you've finally gotten your KJ.
@@nicg9599 There is one thing you can do with the Akorn that would be much more difficult with a KJ. I can lift mine into the back of my truck all by myself and not worry much about it while I drive to a tailgate or a park or a friends house to BBQ or smoke.
@@rexseven93 That’s cool. Still gonna rust out