As someone only a few weeks into training, I feel like this was explained perfectly. Giving so many examples of approaches and finishes is extremely helpful. Great content.
Thanks a lot buddy! Happy you found me early on in your training. Be sure to check out some stuff on guard retention I have made I think it will help a lot
I think you should put the name of the technique in the title of the video to be able to find them more easily in the future. Thanks. Your content is awesome !
Totally agree only problem is that lowers click through rate so then videos don’t get promoted by algo unfortunately. So I’m thinking about keeping them click baity for first week then changing to more specific title later on for searchability
I really like your mat tutorials over the narrated competition clips. The comp clips are cool for intros or outros, but it's very easy to miss a lot of important details.
I said it before and I'll say it again: I love it when you splice the footage of tournament stuff (and/or you, that's also good). Solid stuff as always!
-its a good format! Your explanations and examples in real time work well for me. I note several (3 or 4) and try 2-3 of them at a session. Then, the next session, 2-3 more, but keep cycling through the list to see what works well for me, and how many different guard positions I am faced with. Really like your content!
As a beginner I would really like to also see how to defend against these attacks. Or if you already have related videos it would be nice to have them in the description. Anyway, you channel is the best in this field! I really like the ones showing general principles, because on this level it is very ineffective an confusing to get lost in the myriad of specific techniques.
these guard passes are super basic and super effective, you just need to be the first to estabelish grips, im an advanced blue belt and i catch my black belt coach with this kinds of passes just by being quick to get the grips
I like this format, especially with the competition cuts illustrating the things you're demo'ing at full speed. I think a mix of this format and the other is best to keep things fresh. I really like the short 30 sec demos followed by your longer format videos. Thank for the great information. Another one of your videos added to my rewatch list.
Wow Jon - this was amazing content and the specific examples and variations on the mat itself are crucial! I’ve been using the pull apart pass to great success lately and this seems even simpler to implement, thanks for all your great work!
hey man - thank you. Oh, yeah....I just got to the 8 minute mark. I think both formats are beneficial. This is more like a private and the narrated videos are akin to you watching a roll in person a someone experienced explaining the techniques + the broader/specific concepts behind the technique/tactic. Both have value, I don't think it has to be one or the other. And, I think in the world of tik-tok attention spans varied content is a must. It's like when the leglock craze started...if you didn't learn leglocks you were at a disadvantage.
Love the format. Been training for about 1.5yrs, and it's helpful to have the explanation on specific details and the counters. I often find myself doing a technique that was taught in class, but my higher ranking opponent knows counters I haven't been taught yet. So, it's helpful to have some discussion of common counters and options.
Can you direct us to a video of how to counter this type of pass as the guard player? (Just purchased your “modern collar/sleeve series and loving it. I train at Alliance HQ in Atlanta and some of the black belts recall training with you. They Always say good things!)
Thanks a lot buddy! I think it’s the way to go. I’m gonna try to do a small hybrid where I discuss principles in front of comp with narrations when possible but the details need to be on the mat
Thanks I’m gonna be trying to combine them as I go forward. Trying to find a way that provide both of those value offers, but also makes the creating process easier. As sometimes explaining a bolo in front of a computer then trying to use sparring clips makes showing key details really hard
I hadn't heard of the term 'throw by' guard pass before, but I immediately started thinking about leg drag passes, before you started breaking down the mechanics. Basic leg drags tend to primarily execute a pulling motion, where the guard passer is pulling/ dragging the leg in a mainly linear motion (although in leg drags one can rotate a little to expose their open guard hips and drive one's knee forward into them). This Throw By appears to chain or combine a leg drag setup with a sudden and major lateral shift or rotational movement that uses the gi pants grip near the knee to control their hip. In effect, you might hit this move as a sudden changeup when the open guard player is expecting a pulling motion (leg drag) or a pushing motion (smashing style guard passes). Thus, it would be a great move when well-timed, and especially if the guard player does not suspect the throw by. Is this an accurate understanding?
I love your content Prof, can you do a video or variation at some point of starting this or another guard passing scenario when you're both seated and the dude just stays on his butt? Like a regular roll scenario. Might just be the guys I train with but if I stand up to pass no one goes to their back they just stay on their butt then shoot in to whatever their game is once I start to pass. Obviously not a competition type thing but would be cool to see some of that work in just a regular rolling scenario. Thank you for all you do!
I learn much more here watching those concepts than training everyday in a random regular team. Funny that when I use those techniques during the sparring people ask if I've been trainning somewhere else. What's been taught here is gold!
Professor Tomas can you please make a video showing how to apply of this principle in No Gi? There’s no pants to grab next to your opponents knees in No Gi.
I like this format a lot. I like how it is sequential, going through the various scenarios/reactions and giving solutions to them. Could you one day make a video on how to capitalise on unforced mistakes? For example, when your opponent extends his legs when playing guard. How do you pass his guard when is extends his legs to stop you from creating an angle. I see a lot of high level guard players extend their legs to stop guard passes but not get passed. Is this one of those rules that you can break if you are high level but for everyone else it's a crucial rule to follow? Or is it that their opponents don't know how to capitalise on this "error"? Thank you!
Often that’s when they hold their knees tight like Panza does. There is multiple things you need to accomplish to pass so sometimes extending legs is fine if you have right grips or right body position. I will need to make more deep video on it. I cover it a bit in my retention course
This is great as usual. I like you put in some short video of pros and yours. Could you up the sparing video of yours or your students', with some of your comments like, "Blue should have done other way." "White did good to pass." With points/score would be great.
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I use it every day, learn from the man himself when i was a purple belt with Leandro and the brotherhood boys, i used to get completely demolished everyday, i mean it, shit was actually crazy 🤣
Hey Jon, I love the format. In videos with overlayed comments you sometimes miss the details due to camera angles. Also, quick question… do you have any video on self framing and when to use it vs not use it? I find that I’m forcing myself to use it but I don’t know when it’s appropriate, as sometimes I feel I get into a bad position for self framing instead of having grips. Thanks a lot! Great content!
Hey I mentioned it a lot in most of my retention videos, but I may cover it again soon as I am always evolving my views on it. I think it’s a balance if you do it too much early you don’t ever make grips and they can constantly control offense but also if you only go from grips your framing and defense will be week. It’s a mix of retention and grip fighting
That's a good question, but he's definitely covered it before. Check out his guard retention videos like he said. There's also one called something like "This is why you're always defending from guard" which I think is about the exact thing you're asking
I've a question, but first of all I love this format. When Uke grips your sleeve(s) and you pass on that side, it's actually pretty easy to recover for him: usually he turn a bit, goes on the opposite elbow/hand and shrimps back, always keep the grip arm stiff. So I wouldn't consider those as finished passes. Probably I would prefer to employ more complex gripping strategy to avoid to pass on the side he grips my sleeve. I think I saw a video of yours debating this counter and proposing at least a solution like suddenly opening the arm. There was some comp or rolling footage as well. Still it's a mixed bag, and heavily depends on timing and even anticipation. What do you think? (black belt here)
Hey buddy yeah I should have gone into the detail if they are controlling your near side arm you can either open that are and shoulder drop in which is amazing finish but also you can usually circle north south. That defense is very counterable. It’s such a common response I’m always prepared for it I almost don’t even realize I’m adjusting to it when they try it. I can make a video on it. But if they are holding the far side sleeve and you turn the hip it’s pretty tough recompose in my experience vs a lot of high level guards.
Happy to hear it buddy! I think I can provide so much more value with them as well. Just unfortunate that some reason people seem to engage way more with the talking overlay style videos. Trying to explain how to do a Berimbolo verbally with an overlay is like 20x more confusing and difficult, plus I get so many additional prompts when I’m on the mat of details to add in.
@@JonThomasBJJ octavio Couto, unfortunately passed away a month ago. 6. Dan. He had a lot of "weird"(at first look) concepts that where just brilliant.
Haha well you still clicked. Don’t hate the player hate the game. If I title it something like “Throw By Pass Overview” it will perform literally 1/10 of this, in fact TH-cam probably wouldn’t even have shown you the thumbnail so you would have never known it existed. Wish I could give non click bait names but that’s just not how it works. I want to make as useful of videos as possible and spread them to as many people as possible if I have to make click baity titles then it is what it is. They are not lies though it is a simple pass that does pass black belts.
@@JonThomasBJJ Its all good I know how it goes. It is a great passing system. TH-cam dont show me the thumb tho, Im stalking your channel :D My prof recommended I watch you. I am training under Michael Liera
As someone only a few weeks into training, I feel like this was explained perfectly. Giving so many examples of approaches and finishes is extremely helpful. Great content.
Thanks a lot buddy! Happy you found me early on in your training. Be sure to check out some stuff on guard retention I have made I think it will help a lot
I think you should put the name of the technique in the title of the video to be able to find them more easily in the future. Thanks. Your content is awesome !
Totally agree only problem is that lowers click through rate so then videos don’t get promoted by algo unfortunately. So I’m thinking about keeping them click baity for first week then changing to more specific title later on for searchability
I really like your mat tutorials over the narrated competition clips. The comp clips are cool for intros or outros, but it's very easy to miss a lot of important details.
The devil is in the details. Love this format.
I must say this video format is the best in my opinion because unlike a short it teaches more about concepts
I love the format where you're explaining on the mat while doing the move. It's more like how it is in real life class with coaches.
I said it before and I'll say it again: I love it when you splice the footage of tournament stuff (and/or you, that's also good). Solid stuff as always!
The details are extremely important and relevant as I'm learning. Can't wait to train on this tonight...
Like the format. Great instructional. The concepts are few, the techniques are many. Good stuff. Thank you.
Honestly I think you are one of the best and most pricnciple based BJJ teachers out there. A true master of the art
-its a good format! Your explanations and examples in real time work well for me. I note several (3 or 4) and try 2-3 of them at a session. Then, the next session, 2-3 more, but keep cycling through the list to see what works well for me, and how many different guard positions I am faced with. Really like your content!
As a beginner I would really like to also see how to defend against these attacks. Or if you already have related videos it would be nice to have them in the description.
Anyway, you channel is the best in this field! I really like the ones showing general principles, because on this level it is very ineffective an confusing to get lost in the myriad of specific techniques.
these guard passes are super basic and super effective, you just need to be the first to estabelish grips, im an advanced blue belt and i catch my black belt coach with this kinds of passes just by being quick to get the grips
I personally prefer you on the mats, but the format either way is very good :)
Love this format!
i really like this format, thanks!
Thanks Jon for sharing. Absolutely love this pass!
I love this format. Keep churning them videos bro!
I like this format, especially with the competition cuts illustrating the things you're demo'ing at full speed. I think a mix of this format and the other is best to keep things fresh. I really like the short 30 sec demos followed by your longer format videos. Thank for the great information. Another one of your videos added to my rewatch list.
Wow Jon - this was amazing content and the specific examples and variations on the mat itself are crucial! I’ve been using the pull apart pass to great success lately and this seems even simpler to implement, thanks for all your great work!
hey man - thank you. Oh, yeah....I just got to the 8 minute mark. I think both formats are beneficial. This is more like a private and the narrated videos are akin to you watching a roll in person a someone experienced explaining the techniques + the broader/specific concepts behind the technique/tactic. Both have value, I don't think it has to be one or the other. And, I think in the world of tik-tok attention spans varied content is a must. It's like when the leglock craze started...if you didn't learn leglocks you were at a disadvantage.
Love this format. Very visual and detailed.
Thank you I think the examples help a lot
I enjoy this style Jon. Far more detailed instructional style. You covered a lot more than the v.o. Style. Which I enjoy too.
Love the format. Been training for about 1.5yrs, and it's helpful to have the explanation on specific details and the counters. I often find myself doing a technique that was taught in class, but my higher ranking opponent knows counters I haven't been taught yet. So, it's helpful to have some discussion of common counters and options.
Yeah principles are great but having depth of understanding of common positions is so powerful and reliable. You need both. Hope this system helped
Absolutely need to try this instead of or in addition to attempting knee cuts
Excellent tutorial. Like you said, I used it frequently as a white belt. Now it is my go-to when dealing with a "sticky" opponent trying to weave in.
Yeah it’s great for every level honestly!
Thanks Jon! This is great stuff! Extremely helpful as usual.
Thanks buddy! Means a lot!
Wonderful as always, thanks. I hope you upload more new videos in this channel like before 🤞🏻
Gonna start again, I think trying to make everything more complicated created a bottle neck. Gonna definitely start posting more again
Would love to see your take on defending/avoiding these scenarios
Excellent video, I love the format and the crystal clear explanations and demonstrations of key details. Thanks!
Really appreciate will be doing more soon
Can you direct us to a video of how to counter this type of pass as the guard player?
(Just purchased your “modern collar/sleeve series and loving it. I train at Alliance HQ in Atlanta and some of the black belts recall training with you. They Always say good things!)
Awesome video and really liked the video format. I get a lot of value out of you being on the mats and talking through the details of the technique
Thanks a lot buddy! I think it’s the way to go. I’m gonna try to do a small hybrid where I discuss principles in front of comp with narrations when possible but the details need to be on the mat
I like this video format.... but I also like your other videos too! Any content you put out is great in my opinion. Thank you sir
Thanks I’m gonna be trying to combine them as I go forward. Trying to find a way that provide both of those value offers, but also makes the creating process easier. As sometimes explaining a bolo in front of a computer then trying to use sparring clips makes showing key details really hard
Great format, great content, keep it up prof! 👍
Thanks so much!
I hadn't heard of the term 'throw by' guard pass before, but I immediately started thinking about leg drag passes, before you started breaking down the mechanics. Basic leg drags tend to primarily execute a pulling motion, where the guard passer is pulling/ dragging the leg in a mainly linear motion (although in leg drags one can rotate a little to expose their open guard hips and drive one's knee forward into them). This Throw By appears to chain or combine a leg drag setup with a sudden and major lateral shift or rotational movement that uses the gi pants grip near the knee to control their hip.
In effect, you might hit this move as a sudden changeup when the open guard player is expecting a pulling motion (leg drag) or a pushing motion (smashing style guard passes). Thus, it would be a great move when well-timed, and especially if the guard player does not suspect the throw by.
Is this an accurate understanding?
Fantastic video, as always! So many great tips here and such great explanations!
Really appreciate it!! Thanks for feedback
I like this format.
I love this style of video where you explain live. You have really helped me improve my BJJ game. Thank you so much.
Thanks buddy really happy to hear it I think it had so much more value. Have a good idea on how to make it flow form here on I think
Format is awesome! I'm for the mat 😂 awesome video as always
Thanks buddy me too!
I like this format and detailed explanations.
Thanks so much buddy!
This content is gold. Explained so well and very useful information. Thank you
Thank you so much buddy means a lot!
I love your content Prof, can you do a video or variation at some point of starting this or another guard passing scenario when you're both seated and the dude just stays on his butt? Like a regular roll scenario. Might just be the guys I train with but if I stand up to pass no one goes to their back they just stay on their butt then shoot in to whatever their game is once I start to pass. Obviously not a competition type thing but would be cool to see some of that work in just a regular rolling scenario. Thank you for all you do!
3:10 holy shit I’ve been studying passing to open space concept with Leandro passing videos and this really helped
Yeah this principle really opened up so many new opportunities when I understood the elbow frame space concept
I learn much more here watching those concepts than training everyday in a random regular team. Funny that when I use those techniques during the sparring people ask if I've been trainning somewhere else.
What's been taught here is gold!
Yeah people really underestimate how much you can learn without even being on the mat. Happy you are maximizing these videos with your training
Enjoying the format
Thank you!
Professor Tomas can you please make a video showing how to apply of this principle in No Gi? There’s no pants to grab next to your opponents knees in No Gi.
i unknowingly have been doing this in my rolls. Thanks JT🎉
Happy to hear it! A lot of these things come to us intuitively but we really need to sit down and think to figure it out analytically
I like this format a lot. I like how it is sequential, going through the various scenarios/reactions and giving solutions to them.
Could you one day make a video on how to capitalise on unforced mistakes? For example, when your opponent extends his legs when playing guard. How do you pass his guard when is extends his legs to stop you from creating an angle. I see a lot of high level guard players extend their legs to stop guard passes but not get passed. Is this one of those rules that you can break if you are high level but for everyone else it's a crucial rule to follow? Or is it that their opponents don't know how to capitalise on this "error"? Thank you!
Often that’s when they hold their knees tight like Panza does. There is multiple things you need to accomplish to pass so sometimes extending legs is fine if you have right grips or right body position. I will need to make more deep video on it. I cover it a bit in my retention course
I noticed Felipe Pena does this too@@JonThomasBJJ
This is great as usual.
I like you put in some short video of pros and yours.
Could you up the sparing video of yours or your students', with some of your comments like,
"Blue should have done other way."
"White did good to pass."
With points/score would be great.
Definitely gonna do a lot of these soon! I love doing them but they bomb in the algo, I’m gonna try to revisit them in a way I think works good
Excellent video Thank you
Thanks so much!
Yeah, on the mats is good. Audio's good too, which is sometimes the problem with "from the mat" videos
Thanks buddy I try to take the production value seriously I think it matters a lot for the overall watchability
Man, I appreciate these videos and feel so guilty that they are completely free. You are doing God’s work my friend.
Don’t feel guilty! Happy to help and it also helps my career by building a brand. Share with friends and people you train with if you want to help support
Very very helpful❤
I prefer this format
Thanks happy to hear it!
I use it every day, learn from the man himself when i was a purple belt with Leandro and the brotherhood boys, i used to get completely demolished everyday, i mean it, shit was actually crazy 🤣
Jon can you make a video on the back step pass, sweet vid
Yeah for sure, are you referring to reverse half or a long step?
@@JonThomasBJJback step, from leg entanglement guards, like single leg x etc
Hey Jon, I love the format. In videos with overlayed comments you sometimes miss the details due to camera angles. Also, quick question… do you have any video on self framing and when to use it vs not use it? I find that I’m forcing myself to use it but I don’t know when it’s appropriate, as sometimes I feel I get into a bad position for self framing instead of having grips. Thanks a lot! Great content!
Hey I mentioned it a lot in most of my retention videos, but I may cover it again soon as I am always evolving my views on it. I think it’s a balance if you do it too much early you don’t ever make grips and they can constantly control offense but also if you only go from grips your framing and defense will be week. It’s a mix of retention and grip fighting
That's a good question, but he's definitely covered it before. Check out his guard retention videos like he said. There's also one called something like "This is why you're always defending from guard" which I think is about the exact thing you're asking
On the mat is the best
Good instructions. I’m hitting the ‘15 seconds back’ button over and over to see your passes.
I know what’s getting done for open mat now.
Haha perfect that means you are using the comp clips and also helping the algo by rewatching video a lot
I've a question, but first of all I love this format. When Uke grips your sleeve(s) and you pass on that side, it's actually pretty easy to recover for him: usually he turn a bit, goes on the opposite elbow/hand and shrimps back, always keep the grip arm stiff.
So I wouldn't consider those as finished passes. Probably I would prefer to employ more complex gripping strategy to avoid to pass on the side he grips my sleeve.
I think I saw a video of yours debating this counter and proposing at least a solution like suddenly opening the arm. There was some comp or rolling footage as well. Still it's a mixed bag, and heavily depends on timing and even anticipation.
What do you think? (black belt here)
Hey buddy yeah I should have gone into the detail if they are controlling your near side arm you can either open that are and shoulder drop in which is amazing finish but also you can usually circle north south. That defense is very counterable. It’s such a common response I’m always prepared for it I almost don’t even realize I’m adjusting to it when they try it. I can make a video on it. But if they are holding the far side sleeve and you turn the hip it’s pretty tough recompose in my experience vs a lot of high level guards.
@@JonThomasBJJ thank you for your reply, I'll think through it and try on the mat. Keep up the good work, I like it a lot.
love both styles and both are important, but I think things change with belt level with regard to learning.
Yeah for sure I think lower belts like large principles but the more depth you get you need the specific details to actually make things work
Mat video for sure for me
Happy to hear it buddy! I think I can provide so much more value with them as well. Just unfortunate that some reason people seem to engage way more with the talking overlay style videos. Trying to explain how to do a Berimbolo verbally with an overlay is like 20x more confusing and difficult, plus I get so many additional prompts when I’m on the mat of details to add in.
Miniute 7:30 stuff was something Octavio taught a lot. Nice to have similar sources now but i miss him
Octavio which one? Thanks a lot for the comment as well?
@@JonThomasBJJ octavio Couto, unfortunately passed away a month ago. 6. Dan. He had a lot of "weird"(at first look) concepts that where just brilliant.
Seems like we hold or move their frames, then make or use an angle around it. Thanks
Yup and really paying attention to their gripping and where it exposes weaknesses is huge
the way you are explaining Jon is perfect, thank you so much, improving my BJJ a lot!😊
No problem! Really happy that I have helped!
❤❤❤
Leandro in memoriam
great video, the thmbnail and title are super cringe tho. Also, love the format. Feels like Im in class.
Haha well you still clicked. Don’t hate the player hate the game. If I title it something like “Throw By Pass Overview” it will perform literally 1/10 of this, in fact TH-cam probably wouldn’t even have shown you the thumbnail so you would have never known it existed. Wish I could give non click bait names but that’s just not how it works.
I want to make as useful of videos as possible and spread them to as many people as possible if I have to make click baity titles then it is what it is. They are not lies though it is a simple pass that does pass black belts.
@@JonThomasBJJ Its all good I know how it goes. It is a great passing system. TH-cam dont show me the thumb tho, Im stalking your channel :D My prof recommended I watch you. I am training under Michael Liera
Good content but definitely talking and showing too quickly
Quality stuff
Love your stuff, would be extremely helpful if you could mention no gi too.
Will start doing that as I get into it more for sure
@@JonThomasBJJ awesome, can't wait
Awesome!!
Thanks!