What about getting stuck in mud? That empty space between the track and rim will fill up with mud, and gonna have you sucked down pretty good. Were those tyres tested for how they perform while the tractor is stuck?
+Ancalim We tested Mitas PneuTrac in various conditions and in factthey are performing very well in the muddy conditions thanks to the larger footprint. Larger contact area with the ground means lower chance getting stuck in the mud. Self-cleaning properties are good and we didn’t have a problem with mud getting stuck between the track and the rim. It gets off the tyre while it is moving thanks to the centrifugal force and specific shape of the tyre/track. It is quite difficult to describe it in words and as soon as we will have a video proving that we will release it.
the same way you set the pressure of any tire. but...for standard tire in order to set the right pressure you need to know the actual load on the tire then set it according to the index book while with these tire you can simply judge it by the gap in the sidewall 'V' shape slit
the same way you do with a standard tire, each tire has to be inflated to a pressure according to operation condition, it is the same with Pneutrac (Galileo Wheel) only the range and level of deflection is such that for every given application you will have bigger deflection i.e. bigger footprint and higher draw bar and less soil compaction.
They simulated that weight with 2 500lb weights on the rear lift I still personally wouldn't like these tires we had them on a skis steer and they would get flat spots in them and ride like shit
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that just looks like running around on flat tyres with a slightly different rim profile? Where's the new technology that you are using? If I get stuck I let the air out of the tyres and achieve the same effect.
Considering there wasn't much give over the posts I would estimate around 30psi which is about 12 too much for most tractors as the recommended is 18psi for the rears and usually 24 psi for the fronts and I know from experience on those larger Case tractors makes the tires look like they are half flat when they are properly inflated.
what the hell happens when a 6 furrow plough is lifted! and all that flexing will give a very short life. how will they cope across hilly sloping land .not impressed
the closest you will get to a track machine with a tire machine... brilliant I just wonder how many hours you can get with that New tire setup. seems like a lot of flex in the rubber could make premature failure
When they were trying to show which one pulled better, why didn't they just hook both tractors together and let them pull each other? That tells the teil.
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Anybody else notice that on the tractor pull the standard tyre tractor stays fairly level whilst pulling but the pneutrac is bouncing like a bunny. That's gonna be fun driving that all day with a load on. Yes it would help to weigh it down but not on a heavy straight pull
jamesfl1968 yeah for sure power hopping. I would guess that it was in a higher gear and that’s why it slowly pulled ahead and causing the power hop as well. Cheers from Arkansas
What is their weight rating can they be put on your heavy tillage tractor and withstand the weight of the equipment attached. They squat quite a bit with just the tractor. I like the idea compared to say fendt variogrip system with the airlines running everywhere. But there is also no variability. It seems like they went maximum grip while sacrificing load capacity.
well this costs more :) thats the difarance. these are allways gripy and never fuel eficient and will always grind away rubber like a 18year old boy whit his first car. when you air down a tire you can put air back and make it fuel efficient again xD these tires you cant air upp so non fuel efficient
So I have to say that pneu is the French word for tire. The p is pronounced out loud and the rest is proounced new, not no, so it is P-new, not p-no. Full english translation is tire trac, in French it is pneu trac.
As for durability - on drum test high load (150% of required ISO test) we gain 300h which is 400% better than the required running time. Our tread wear-out is better by 20% than a premium brand and 40% from a mid market brand.
Nope it is a french word that means tire. it is infact pronounced p-new. Not p-no. You are correct in both french and english in regard to pneumonia, however. So for the illness the p is not pronounced. But for a tire the p is pronounced.
@@Randy-uh8wd the pneu prefix for tyre comes from the same place as for pneumonia... to do with air/wind... but yes im also annoyed TH-cam has shown me a video from 2015 where the guy cant even pronounce his product properly
Look at all that wheel weight you loose by not having a tire you can fill with washer fluid! That's a couple hundred lbs of extra traction. My farm is all hillside, I need that weight to keep my tractor upright.
we are surrounded by people who know better.............."peeeeeno" .....really ?? You were home-schooled,right? Mommy taught you everything she doesn't have a clue about.
This dude is saying "p-kno track", and sounds like he's reading a script. So I guess I'm wrong or he never got pronunciation information. Figured it would be pronounced "nu-track", like pneumatic... Like pneumatic bias tires.
The saying goes like this, "The proof of the pudding, is in the eating ". Which means, don't tell me it's a great pudding, let me eat it and I'll tell you whether it's a great pudding or not. The real value of something can be judged only from practical experience or results and not from appearance or theory.
Won't last long and if you hit something like a stump then you will need a new rim.... Doesn't look like a more comfortable ride, there is alot of hopping going on.
Nope you got it wrong as well. It is P-new trac. This is the french word for tire. The p is pronounced out loud so it is P-new. The narator of the demonstration was pronouncing this french spelling, p-nau. which is not even a word. But au is pronounced o in French.
2015 ... It is 2019 ... If these tires had been any good, we'd see them all over my area . We operate a mid size veggie farm, fresh market 225 acres using 8 tractors all on various tilling and harvesting equip. but have never seen a set of these around our neighborhood ... 2019 ... Where did this concept go ? Hum ...
I don't know about all the test being practical because tires are making contact with dirt. They should stick to selling the ability to withstand punctures. Which they didn't do. What kind of destruction can these tires go through before you have to replace them. That's the only real selling point
This system will only be efficient on dirt where the thread can sink in the soil and allow the smooth par of the tire to touch the soil. Otherwise there is no benefit to use a bigger footprint if only the thread itself touch the ground,like on a compacted dirt road or asphalt. if you want to reduce ground pressure you need to increase the surface touching the ground,so the whoe tire,not only the thread. it's only for soft soil,otherwise ,no point at all.
This is ridiculous. It's simple and cheaper to let air out of your tyres in boggy areas where you need to increase your footprint and then re-inflate them for harder ground use. Many vehicles, like Russian military vehicles, do it on the move, at the flick of a switch!.
as for fuel efficiency - on road: in cursing we measured (by leading OE) 7% more fuel on road when going up gears 10% less fuel so total road fuel consumption depends on specific routing. Off Road full consumption depends on soil in a sandy soil you can expect up to 40% better traction and fuel economy
Yes this may increase fuel efficiency and lower the payment in fuel but ur sticking that right back into new tires because I bet these cost twice as much as a normal tires.....
Radials are simply an improvement to an already existing good technology that allows increased weight capacity and stability however running these airless tires is a complete reinvention of tire technology. You should think about that before attempting to make a smart ass comment.
That tractor pull didn't prove anything unless the RPM's were synchronized and tire diameters were exactly the same and a manual transmission is used. Try using a competition sled and pull until the wheels spin. That would be proof. What is the figure eight supposed to prove? Wasn't the tread wider on the pneumatic tire? Was it properly inflated? Tread depth? Rubber durometer? Cold weather flexibility? Special wheels required? I have more questions but not more time. Bye
Looks like they finally designed a tire to be run aired down and not destroy itself, much like off-roaders do and good off-road truck tires are designed to do. They are designed to be run slow with lots of sidewall flex. If you run a truck tire aired down at highway speeds long, you will destroy it because of heat caused by all the flex. Tractors will never do that. I would imagine they designed the sidewall to handle the flex of being run near-flat as well as the flex from the torque of pulling. It drives me craze how he calls them "peno track" instead of "new" track. I would hope it's not because he's an idiot and is actually because the corporate heads are idiots saying they are called that....a "marketing gimmick."
Jake Nelson the name of the product is PNEUtrac, pneu is the french word for tire, he is just trying to say the word pneu but he just cant pronounce it right
all they did was make a tire with a stiff sidewall so it could be used with no air in the tire. of course a flat tire I'd going to offer more traction, more comfort in bumps. but I bout vet those tires wouldn't last as long as a normal ag tire would. plus the edge of the rim is exposed and will allow things like dirt, rock, mud to wedge itself in between the tire bead and the rim. I can't believe they are acting like they have created a new universe over a flat tire.
This another evolution trick like they use in Dutch only one low pressure tyre in front of larger JD-s and others. More tyre in contact on land meaning better weight distribution so tractor do not compact land under it self so much.
What about getting stuck in mud? That empty space between the track and rim will fill up with mud, and gonna have you sucked down pretty good. Were those tyres tested for how they perform while the tractor is stuck?
+Ancalim We tested Mitas PneuTrac in various conditions and in factthey are performing very well in the muddy conditions thanks to the larger
footprint. Larger contact area with the ground means lower chance getting stuck
in the mud. Self-cleaning properties are good and we didn’t have a problem with
mud getting stuck between the track and the rim. It gets off the tyre while it
is moving thanks to the centrifugal force and specific shape of the tyre/track.
It is quite difficult to describe it in words and as soon as we will have a
video proving that we will release it.
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@@danielgorzel7222 Where is the mud?
How long will they last before all that deformation results in fatigue and failure of the tire material?
what happens when the tractor lifts a really heavy implement on the 3 point hitch or two round bales on the loader?
right pressure according to applicationThe same as will happen in any tire i.e. Tire has to be inflated to the
how do you set the pressure?
the same way you set the pressure of any tire. but...for standard tire in order to set the right pressure you need to know the actual load on the tire then set it according to the index book while with these tire you can simply judge it by the gap in the sidewall 'V' shape slit
the same way you do with a standard tire, each tire has to be inflated to a pressure according to operation condition, it is the same with Pneutrac (Galileo Wheel) only the range and level of deflection is such that for every given application you will have bigger deflection i.e. bigger footprint and higher draw bar and less soil compaction.
They simulated that weight with 2 500lb weights on the rear lift I still personally wouldn't like these tires we had them on a skis steer and they would get flat spots in them and ride like shit
how did i end up here
same here. youtube is amazing
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good question btw u forgot the ?
Is this guy saying Pinot track?
You have a curious brain.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that just looks like running around on flat tyres with a slightly different rim profile? Where's the new technology that you are using? If I get stuck I let the air out of the tyres and achieve the same effect.
Think of the additional fuel consumption....those poor farmers
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Gruff Morris same thing I was thinking
Gruff Morris.
It's just another snake oil promotion, that's all.
Why not let the 2 tractors pull against each other?
Hi. Who did the music for your video? I'd like to ask them a question.
I wonder what the tire pressure is on the tractor with regular tiires
Jarno Grooten probably like 80psi haha
Considering there wasn't much give over the posts I would estimate around 30psi which is about 12 too much for most tractors as the recommended is 18psi for the rears and usually 24 psi for the fronts and I know from experience on those larger Case tractors makes the tires look like they are half flat when they are properly inflated.
my tires are filled at about 14 psi, so they must have much less. Bigger tires require lower psi for the same weight
wiky5 i under stand that, i was saying 80psi, because they probably pumped them up so it wouldn't dig as much lol
exactly :)
i wonder how they stand up against the new low sidewall tires they look really sweet
what the hell happens when a 6 furrow plough is lifted! and all that flexing will give a very short life. how will they cope across hilly sloping land .not impressed
Почему не показали как он реагирует на склонах.. И когда тянет что то
the closest you will get to a track machine with a tire machine... brilliant I just wonder how many hours you can get with that New tire setup. seems like a lot of flex in the rubber could make premature failure
endurance tests shows these tire actually last lionger
When they were trying to show which one pulled better, why didn't they just hook both tractors together and let them pull each other? That tells the teil.
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Looks great, but how about fuel efficiency?
Покрышка неплохая, интересно как она себя поведет на глинистых почвах или черноземах, когда колеса полностью забиваются.
Anybody else notice that on the tractor pull the standard tyre tractor stays fairly level whilst pulling but the pneutrac is bouncing like a bunny. That's gonna be fun driving that all day with a load on. Yes it would help to weigh it down but not on a heavy straight pull
Really.. i saw both doing the same bounce during that pull.
Yeah they both bouncing lol
Both where bouncing but the pneutrac bounced a hell of alot more. IMHO
It seems like a good idea but if you hit something in the field like a rock or stump there's a pretty good chance that you are going to damage the rim
How they go in stoney ruff ground
sure looks like it has a lot of buck during the pull
I saw that too, power hopping.
jamesfl1968 yeah for sure power hopping. I would guess that it was in a higher gear and that’s why it slowly pulled ahead and causing the power hop as well. Cheers from Arkansas
How could anyone ever take a person serious who's trying to sell a product that they cannot even pronounce its name!
all I see is powerhop at around 2:40 on that you will NOT be able to control.
so can I just drive around on a flat tire then? it's the same principle
Dalton Phillips That's because that technology only works on lighter vehicles, not heavy ones like the tractor.
Flat tires flex differently, often caving in the middle giving you a less efficient contact patch and placing stresses on the sidewalls.
What is their weight rating can they be put on your heavy tillage tractor and withstand the weight of the equipment attached. They squat quite a bit with just the tractor. I like the idea compared to say fendt variogrip system with the airlines running everywhere. But there is also no variability. It seems like they went maximum grip while sacrificing load capacity.
La esfera en el aire que es?
Sure hope you can send them in for a re-mould given how much more they must cost
So they invented a tire that acts exactly like a normal tire if that normal tire had way less air in it?
do you lose any ground clearance at all?
I wonder how long these tires will wear with the flexing system they have?
I guess time will tell.
How is this different from simply airing down?
well this costs more :) thats the difarance. these are allways gripy and never fuel eficient and will always grind away rubber like a 18year old boy whit his first car. when you air down a tire you can put air back and make it fuel efficient again xD these tires you cant air upp so non fuel efficient
it will give you much better traction and wont destroy the tire' better ride comfort and will keep all lateral stability
you you don't loose lateral stability you dont destroy the tire no buckling under the tread check out www.galileowheel.com
where can I buy these tires for my small tractor?
I wonder how that tire would behave at 30 below zero.
Also how it is with the wear and how it works with snow chains.
Is this product available for cars,bikes.
What about availability.
Any source at india
So I have to say that pneu is the French word for tire. The p is pronounced out loud and the rest is proounced new, not no, so it is P-new, not p-no. Full english translation is tire trac, in French it is pneu trac.
Ballast?
how's the cost difference?
why is it called pneutrac? pneumatic is when somthing uses air but these dont use air do they?
Yes they do!! go to galileowheel.com
they do!! these are pneu,atic tires check out www.galileowheel.com
As for durability - on drum test high load (150% of required ISO test) we gain 300h which is 400% better than the required running time. Our tread wear-out is better by 20% than a premium brand and 40% from a mid market brand.
What is. It? Panochaa??
By this pronunciation, pneumonia is p-noumonia.
Bruh. It's newtrak.
Yep, pretty ridiculous that their own product rep can't pronounce his own product!
pa'no track lol.
Nope it is a french word that means tire. it is infact pronounced p-new. Not p-no. You are correct in both french and english in regard to pneumonia, however. So for the illness the p is not pronounced. But for a tire the p is pronounced.
@@Randy-uh8wd the pneu prefix for tyre comes from the same place as for pneumonia... to do with air/wind... but yes im also annoyed TH-cam has shown me a video from 2015 where the guy cant even pronounce his product properly
do you need new wheels for these tyres ?
I bet these would not last very long in heavy tillage operations with constant torquing on them.
not skeptical, just looks strange, How About when Trailering heavy loads on wind and steep roads?
New-trac sounds better than no-trac. We don't use no-matic tires
In the pull you cansee under load its hopping like crazy
yep, it's the tire loading and unloading like a spring.... Boing, boing, boing
Look at all that wheel weight you loose by not having a tire you can fill with washer fluid! That's a couple hundred lbs of extra traction. My farm is all hillside, I need that weight to keep my tractor upright.
Какая цена? Я готов купить !!!
Put the rims on their widest setting or have weighted rims
Or who really cares. Use whatever you want. 🙄
But, i think these type of tyres need more power as compare to ordinary tyres because of its flat surface.
but on the field they sink less therefore less rolling resistance
it's not pronounced peneo track. it's "new track"
What is the point
DEMO #5: Fuel Economy - not included
Give me some flat tires and I can go over logs pretty smooth too.
Wouldn't that wreck the tire
Tractors has flat on the bottom. Maybe the farmer ran over the big nails or something that ends up with a flat tires.
Funny I would have thought it would be pronounced New-Trac, shrug
I guess this guy doesn't know the p in pneumatic is silent.
rick, with a silent P.
as in swimming pool.....
we are surrounded by people who know better.............."peeeeeno" .....really ?? You were home-schooled,right? Mommy taught you everything she doesn't have a clue about.
Unless you are french then it is P neu but he is a yank,
puh-no track... right!
con los nuevos neumaticos no se espicharian los tractores tienen mas agarre del suelo y el rendimiento es mayor en trabajos pesados de arar tierra.-
This dude is saying "p-kno track", and sounds like he's reading a script. So I guess I'm wrong or he never got pronunciation information. Figured it would be pronounced "nu-track", like pneumatic... Like pneumatic bias tires.
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Crammy James Pneutrac. Pneu is french for tires, he is just trying to pronounce it the french way but doesnt quit workout
Thats because he doesn't Kah-now any better 😜
Pronounced " NOY TRAC"
The saying goes like this, "The proof of the pudding, is in the eating ". Which means, don't tell me it's a great pudding, let me eat it and I'll tell you whether it's a great pudding or not. The real value of something can be judged only from practical experience or results and not from appearance or theory.
Won't last long and if you hit something like a stump then you will need a new rim....
Doesn't look like a more comfortable ride, there is alot of hopping going on.
When he said lets go ahead and move the tractors they MOVED and its too fast for the naked eye to see ! Amazing Technology !
If you pronounce it like it's written, is NEWTRAC, not P-NOTRAC.
Nope you got it wrong as well. It is P-new trac. This is the french word for tire. The p is pronounced out loud so it is P-new. The narator of the demonstration was pronouncing this french spelling, p-nau. which is not even a word. But au is pronounced o in French.
2015 ... It is 2019 ... If these tires had been any good, we'd see them all over my area . We operate a mid size veggie farm, fresh market 225 acres using 8 tractors all on various tilling and harvesting equip. but have never seen a set of these around our neighborhood ...
2019 ... Where did this concept go ? Hum ...
The bad thing about this demo is it could easily be rigged. But not being there it's hard to say which is better
I don't know about all the test being practical because tires are making contact with dirt.
They should stick to selling the ability to withstand punctures. Which they didn't do.
What kind of destruction can these tires go through before you have to replace them.
That's the only real selling point
This system will only be efficient on dirt where the thread can sink in the soil and allow the smooth par of the tire to touch the soil.
Otherwise there is no benefit to use a bigger footprint if only the thread itself touch the ground,like on a compacted dirt road or asphalt.
if you want to reduce ground pressure you need to increase the surface touching the ground,so the whoe tire,not only the thread.
it's only for soft soil,otherwise ,no point at all.
This is ridiculous. It's simple and cheaper to let air out of your tyres in boggy areas where you need to increase your footprint and then re-inflate them for harder ground use. Many vehicles, like Russian military vehicles, do it on the move, at the flick of a switch!.
Most common sense observation!!
as for fuel efficiency - on road: in cursing we measured (by leading OE) 7% more fuel on road when going up gears 10% less fuel so total road fuel consumption depends on specific routing. Off Road full consumption depends on soil in a sandy soil you can expect up to 40% better traction and fuel economy
Yes this may increase fuel efficiency and lower the payment in fuel but ur sticking that right back into new tires because I bet these cost twice as much as a normal tires.....
Those are pretty cool but I bet they are expensive
gee, I always avoid FLAT tires
cause flat tires for the normal tires is bad... more deformation cause more ware and tear. Where this tire it is made for it.
Well there is always going to be sceptics in regards to anything new nowadays....
+John O'Donnell tractores jhondeere
🇧🇷 está galopando, tem q fazer melhorias em contra pesos.
Same as running tire with low air pressure for slow wheeling.
Not even close.
Should have gotten someone who knows how to enunciate the name of the tire. Pneu as in pneumatic so its enunciation is New-track.
just give me a tire with air.. no need to reinvent the wheel
Radials are simply an improvement to an already existing good technology that allows increased weight capacity and stability however running these airless tires is a complete reinvention of tire technology. You should think about that before attempting to make a smart ass comment.
I doubt these will reinvent the industry, but you sound like the stoneass luddites that were clomping around in the 40's with steel wheels!
If you’re going to pronounce it wrong why not call it the pee in you track?
Looks like a nightmare to take off the rim to fix punctures.
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Bom mas queria ver trabalhando em solo argiloso molhado
Hmm...the pic shows a Deere but this sales pitch contains no Deere.
case forever bdw fuck these tires
I wish the announcer would realize that the P is silent. OMG
That tractor pull didn't prove anything unless the RPM's were synchronized and tire diameters were exactly the same and a manual transmission is used. Try using a competition sled and pull until the wheels spin. That would be proof.
What is the figure eight supposed to prove?
Wasn't the tread wider on the pneumatic tire? Was it properly inflated?
Tread depth? Rubber durometer? Cold weather flexibility? Special wheels required?
I have more questions but not more time.
Bye
just looks like an expensive way to make it look like you need to add some air to the tire.
doesn't look like it's as good as Firestone 23 degree super all- traction,
especially with a 5 bottom rollover plow.
Sziastok szerintetek mek a job
Looks like they finally designed a tire to be run aired down and not destroy itself, much like off-roaders do and good off-road truck tires are designed to do. They are designed to be run slow with lots of sidewall flex. If you run a truck tire aired down at highway speeds long, you will destroy it because of heat caused by all the flex. Tractors will never do that. I would imagine they designed the sidewall to handle the flex of being run near-flat as well as the flex from the torque of pulling. It drives me craze how he calls them "peno track" instead of "new" track. I would hope it's not because he's an idiot and is actually because the corporate heads are idiots saying they are called that....a "marketing gimmick."
Why not just install tracks on the tractor -- seems to me the tire corporations are trying keep farmers from buying a track system for their tractors
Was his Grandad drunk? He should have said
“The proof of the pudding is in the eating”.
Great tyres by the way.
Farming Simulator 19 brought me here........LOL
I paused Farming Simulator 19 to watch some TH-cam, and came here too :-)
The normal tires have to much Psi
Why does he say "Pa-no-Trac"....It's obviously supposed to be pronounced "New-Trac"...like pneumatic.....
Jake Nelson the name of the product is PNEUtrac, pneu is the french word for tire, he is just trying to say the word pneu but he just cant pronounce it right
Jake Nelson.
He's American = Stupid.
_"The proof of the pudding is in the eating"_
Pneu = new not pen-o Newmatic not penomatic
New tires has much worse stabilization than old ones as we see in this movie.
all they did was make a tire with a stiff sidewall so it could be used with no air in the tire. of course a flat tire I'd going to offer more traction, more comfort in bumps. but I bout vet those tires wouldn't last as long as a normal ag tire would. plus the edge of the rim is exposed and will allow things like dirt, rock, mud to wedge itself in between the tire bead and the rim. I can't believe they are acting like they have created a new universe over a flat tire.
lower you tire pressure and done ..
This another evolution trick like they use in Dutch only one low pressure tyre in front of larger JD-s and others. More tyre in contact on land meaning better weight distribution so tractor do not compact land under it self so much.
Looks like power hope.
i feel bad for my ass after a few hours in a tractor like that...
actually the ride comfort with these tire is much much better go to galileowheel.com and see
Looks like a tire with low air pressure
I have to study, idk why i seing this
Я так понял,что победил чувак,на красном тракторе.