Building the Meng 1/32 Fokker DR I Triplane, (The Red Baron Triplane )
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The Fokker used a Oberursel UR2 engine, that was a copy of the Rhone rotary engine. The brass/copper pipes lead to the back of the engine. The Meng people did it correctly.
Very nice build.
It looks like the UR.II could have the pipes either in the front or the back but the pictures I see of DR.1s all have them in back like the kit does. By the way, those pipes are the intakes. The exhaust just blows out of the cylinder head, it's timed so the exhaust valves open when the cylinder is at the bottom of airplane as the motor spins. There are no exhaust pipes.
The instructions for the engine (and some pictures of the engine on the plane) can be found on the wingnutwings site. Air intakes are on the back. The instructions seem to say that the Rhone engine used copper while the Oberurssel copy had metal pipes
@@axelvanderminne2124 I reviewed the instruction manual and it appears parts of the engine are left unglued and intended to rotate - but does the engine and propeller rotate together as a unit or is the engine stationary and only the propeller moves? I really would like a model that depicts a proper rotary engine.
The model was dynamite, the diorama was the kicker. Great job Andy.
You need a Snoopy kit to go with that one.
Once Revell sold models of Snoopy and his German foe. Was pretty cute ...
@@letoubib21 Those kits have been re-released by Atlantis Models
@@Hjerte_Verke Thanks!
Shut up.
Oh, definitely!
I received my kit in the mail the same day this video was posted, so I'm excited to get building. I'm glad to see you build and paint this as an average modeler could do, and not in multiple layers of paint and weathering powders. It's also good to know that the parts fit well enough so that we average builders won't have to struggle with ill fitting parts. If those were your goals, mission accomplished!
have fun building it.
Beautiful job! Thanks Andy.
I wish there were more cool hobby shops like yours. Great work on the the DR.1.
Many years ago(about 30 or 40 as I recall) I saw Richtofens DR1 seat and one of the fuselage black cross markings and a wing tip on display at the Royal Canadian Military Institute in Toronto....they acquired them from Roy Browns family....Brown was given the trophies after he originally got credit for shooting him down...they have since moved locations but I believe they still have the artifacts and can be seen if one makes an appointment....it was pretty exciting for me to actually see pieces of the real aircraft Richtofen was shot down in...I'm from Toronto and had no idea they were there until I read about it in a book by Dale Titler called The Day the Red Baron Died....I called them up and they said I could come down and see them as long as I made an appointment which I immediately did...they were part of a display behind glass and I remember the curator telling me that a previous curator (decades prior) had been fired for giving away(or selling ) small pieces of some of it !....
wow , cool story thanks for sharing it.
The engine from the Triplane is in the Imperial War Museum in London. Where I have a mention on the Jadgpanther!
Amazing little plane.
Nice kit excellently built.
Absolutely brilliant build, you are such a fab builder.
I'm glad you went with the Red Baron version. It's an outstanding build.
Thank you
Awesome job on Red Barron Andy. Look forward to purchasing kit.
Another great build Andy, well done, keep safe and well
An amazing build as always! I may give this one a try as there's no canopy for me to paint badly.
Excellent work!
Another great build and video Andy.
Just to clarify, scraps of the fabric taken as souvenirs by soldiers from the genuine aircraft, which I have seen in museums, suggest that the underside of the MvR triplane was painted a pale blue, near to light grey. Something close to WW2 Luftwaffe hellblau.
Barry
It looks great!
Many thanks, this will be very helpful for all our future builds of the kit
Glad it was helpful!
Great job, and very informative. Thanks Andy, love your vids.
Came out great Andy! I was hoping you'd do the alternative markings though as we've all seen this version so much.
Thanks for sharing your build a friend from Canada Rob ✌
That looks great, I definitely gotta get one sometime.
Great review Andy. Was daunted by the all over red scheme but you made it work really well. I'm now confident enough to order one for myself. Keep up the fantastic work on the channel. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Derek
Thank you for a helpful demonstaration of this kit. I got it this year and managed to get a 'bookazine' including instructions but nothing beats watching a good modeller do the build, especially for a returner to the hobby after several decades.
Cool modell👍👍
Beautiful detail!!!!😀
Thank you! 😊
That's a beautiful model!
Thank you .
Great build Andy.
Very cool Andy!!!! 👍👍👍
I got mine yesterday. I was hoping you'd post a build video before I started on mine. I'm looking forward to building it now.
Hope you enjoy it!
Yes, compared to a stationary radial motor, the "rotary' motor is in reversed.
In the latter, the block rotates on a stationary crank. This necessitates the accessory drive & intake pipes next to the firewall.
When modeling for accuracy, these details make a big difference.
BTW, beautiful job!
You out did yourself, Andy. Beautiful work.
Thank you you Glenn
The Red Baron airplane 1/32 scale , by Meng is fantastic . I build with a few years ago also that Red Baron project , but at the diferent scale (1/72 ) , made by Revell . Thank you for sharing , my friend !🏆🥇🙂👍
awesome job as usuall
Another top job!!
I love the engineering on Tamiya kits. Makes it a pleasure to make
You are right but this is a Meng,maybe a close 2nd fit to the great Tam
Nice job Andy
Sehr schönes Modell.
The actual engine taken as a trophy is in the imperial war museum London.
Copper pipes to the rear. The prop is fixed to the engine as it is a rotary.
The control stick and other artifacts are located at the Australian War Memorial Canberra.
Anyhow nice build.
I saw the control stick and compass at Australian war museum Canberra
Australian war museum is awsome
@@ianashby1449 i would love to go down and see it someday.
It’s definitely worth a visit was there from open till closeing
it is a radial engine not a rotary
I don't know much about the plane's history but you built it interestingly enough to study
Andy awesome build one of your best to date and the engine is in the right way Steve 🇬🇧
Thanks 👍
Another great build
Glad you like it
This build is wunderbar mein herr! They did the red lady justice!
Thank you
Wow, famous and gorgeous!😍😍
Thank you Phil.
Very realistic. 👍
Nice work Andy enjoy your videos
Thanks 👍
As usual !!!
GREATE !!! Greate video!
Thank you!
Thanks you.
Fun video Andy , thank you for sharingbthis review if your build and paint Andy
Lifted my low spirts today
Thank you Andy
Great job!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Engine is correct. The Le Rhône 9J engine was manufactured under license in Germany by Motorenfabrik Oberursel and sold as the Oberursel Ur.II. These were standard in a Dr.I. However some German pilots would pay a bounty to infantrymen who could get them a Clerget engine from the wreck of a shot down Sopwith Camel. Almost same engine, but an extra 30 or so horse power. So, some images online may show that.
Awesome music choice yet again!!
Not sure how many versions of the red DR 1 there are but the one that I’ve seen the most has a white rudder.
Nice build. Weathering always makes a nice touch.
Thanks for sharing
From research I've done, the Baron had at least two fully red tripes. The first was 152/17 which sported a progression of red until the plane was fully red. The other completely red one was 425/17, the one he flew the day he was killed. Depending on the time frame, 425/17 had a white rudder but was eventually painted over with red. There is a third Triplane that has been stated was painted in overall red... 477/17. My research shows this aircraft being described as all red in some photos and also as the factory finish of streaked Fokker green over doped linen with the red struts, cowl and wheel covers denoting JG1. Keep in mind that all triplanes were delivered in this streaked green finish.
Very nice.
Brilliant
Nice work! I like how you do the steps in putting it together. This kit is not Wingnut Wings quality overall, the instruction book and decals most noticeably aren’t near that benchmark. But the plastic and working parts are very close. Meng makes very, very good stuff, but WNW was in a class by itself. Of course it also costs $20-$30 less than had it been a Wingnuts Kit also. Just glad we have it and Meng came through. Thanks for the video! 👍
Finally a build video for this kit!
Glad to see it goes together so well. One thing I noticed here, and on my kit, is the warped wings. Especially the top wing. I'll definitely be straightening mine out, but otherwise, the detail on this kit is gorgeous.
Only other negatives of the kit itself: no rigging instructions at all. And the colour call outs are wrong in some cases. Tires on these planes were not black, but more frequently a very pale grey or even pink colour.
I'm hoping someone will release alternative markings for this kit, as I want to paint mine up as one of the Baron' alternative machines; 477/17.
Even with the negative points, I will most likely build a couple of these. It's one of my favourite planes, and there's so many different colour schemes.
Thank you for the video, I clicked like as soon as I saw it.
Thank you
Nice kit
It sure is
I will be driving back to get one of those awesome Fokker DR-1’s 😁
IVE GOT PLENTY , thanks for watching
Beautiful. I would suggest doing a blue base coat under the red. The DR1 at the Deutsches Museum in Munich says they have fabric from Richthofen‘s plane which is bluer red than xf7. I miss the WNW instructions and photos too!
yes there instructions are great.
OMG😱😱 SO GOOOOOODDDDDD
Andy, do not forget to add a large amount of "burnt oil", on the underside, right behind the engine. These airplanes had engines with a total loss oil system. The burnt castor oil became dark-brown, almost black, and stained the underside quite a bit.
It was impossible to keep these airplanes clean, especially on the underside. So, if you weather a model like this, showing an airplanes that had flown for quite some time, you must add a dark brown belly. Ofcourse, it took a couple of weeks to get that dirty.
Never the less, the model turned out just great...!!
Yea I agree
What a nice job , love it!! How many hours in to the build was it?
Andy - a fine build & thanks for doing it. Didn’t you notice the wings were warped before starting it though?
Beautiful work as usual Andy. I'd like to build von Richtoven's flying circus myself, the variety of exotic brightly coloured liveries would be spectacular !
That would be cool
To quote Borat, "Very Nice." Seriously, looks great. I'm at the point in my modeling journey where I need an airbrush. Santa will come through this year.
well done
That looks wonderful Andy all you need now is Snoop on his doghouse to shoot the Red Baron down lol👍👍
That looks super Andy, great job! 👍🏻 Unfortunately mine is one of many that arrived with broken and warped sprue B, but Meng and my supplier are sorting this. 🤞🏻
Thats good
Great job. I wanted to add that I've read that von Richthoven sometimes had to have the red paint thinned because it was in short supply. Because of this, some of his planes showed the factory paint under the red. Something to consider the next time you do a Dr.1.
Keep in mind too, that the markings for JG1 had red cowlings, struts and wheel covers. Even the factory painted Fokker green aircraft would carry these red struts, cowls and wheel covers. The remainder of the aircraft could be painted as the pilot wished. For example, you see Dr.1 152/17 often depicted in a partial red scheme with the red cowl, struts and wheel covers, top surface of the upper wing and the fuselage aft of the Eisernes Kreuz (as time passed this fuselage color eventually extended to the rear edge of the cockpit and eventually completely red (152/17 was his first all red tripe). MvR's brother Lothar flew Dr.1 454/17 which was painted with the red cowl, struts and wheel covers in red, but the upper surface of the top wing and the rear part of the fuselage were painted in yellow. MvR was a Uhlan, depicted by the red coloring, LvR was Cavalry, depicted by the yellow. LvR was shot down in 454/17. He was involved in a dogfight and the upper wing started to disintegrate... he was able to get the plane down but upon landing crashed and bashed his face into the machine guns, breaking his jaw. MvR crashed one of his earlier tripes, Dr.1 114/17, which threw a cylinder, knocking off the cowling and forcing the Baron to crash land.
Hello Andy,
That was a nice built, as for the engine, and it has mentioned before, it is the right way now. Indeed it is an Oberursel Ur.II, not a le Rhone as You mentioned in the video (although an Oberursel is is licenced built of Le Rhone) hope I got the words right, I'm Dutch 😁
Anyway, picked up mine yesterday at a (almost) local hobby store and startend to built it right away.
As always I enjoy your built, and tips comming along with it.
Geen probleem, je hebt ze goed.
The exhaust runs behind the cylinder heads. You also weren’t sure but the ammo box then wing spar area and then fuel tank as you work from the cockpit forward. I fly a 3/4 Triplane that I built from an Airdrome Aeroplanes kit. My favorite airplane for sure.
Also. The paint at the time was flat and not gloss. I’ve seen the actual fabric and motor. Both at the imperial war museum, national museum of the air force. and Kermit Weeks has some of the actual fabric that he used to paint his full size triplane.
My final comment. Very nice by the way. Inside the fuselage there should be some red bleed through on the fabric. There is no structure outside of the plywood that lets the paint color bleed through. Nit picks for sure nice model. Keep up the good work.
Good video and great looking result. Early on you questioned the wood color for the seat, but you didn't comment on that later on, and it looks like the wood color was used.
This will be great with Fokker streaked camo decals!
Yes! Can't wait for Aviattic to release theirs for this kit :).
Great video build Andy as for the engine goes I've looked at reference pictures the engine is correct way round The old way round Arno does the Germans foyer.
Thanks for the info
A very iconic WWI airplane. That turned out really nice.
Thank you I had fun building it.
That looks great. But I really wanted to see you paint the propeller. You did a great job and looks like real wood
God job 👍
Most metal parts in the interior of WW1 german airplanes was painted with a grey-green primer and your choice of color look right to me.
I just use RLM 02 for German WW I interior metal parts.
I have this kit in my stash and will soon start work on it (having received a replacement Sprue B from Meng after the first arrived damaged). I really like the way the photoetch isn't attached I find sanding the stubs off really small PE a serious challenge, to say the least. However, what does peeve me is that they leave instructions for rigging holes to drill, but no instructions about the rigging itself.
Rigging on the Triplane was relatively easy. There were crossed wires bracing the landing gear struts, crossed wire bracing between the struts between the fuselage and upper wing, control cables obviously and two wires leading from the fuselage to the top wing denoting the aileron control cables. that's it.
I'm currently building this kit and two things I noticed:
1. you've oversanded the back of the fuselage, there's supposed to be ridge there
2. the instructions don't call for a cushion in the Red Baron's version, it goes into scheme B and D (Werner Voss and Walter Gottsch)
Overall, from what I research I did prior to starting this kit, plane 425/17 is often misidentified in photos, or parts of it are obscured, so the details are unclear (white engine cowl? white tail denoting squad leader? white stripe on the fuselage under the cross, again denoting squad leader?).
Oh and I'm not sure if I'd trust that green-ish colour of the cockpit parts in surviving Fokkers,. it could've been painted on after the war.
Just found your channel and subscribed. I haven’t done a model since I was a teenager. But after watching this, I’m going to go to your online store👍
That's an awesome finish Andy, and will make a great companion to your earlier Albatross build. I missed it, but was the wire that you used for the bracing included in the kit or was it something that you had laying around?
I had it , it was not part of the kit
I would have liked to have seen how you painted up the propeller, there a few methods for this that I have seen online using oil paints? Fantastic build Andy!
I just painted a desert tan color masked it with 1 mm tape and the painted a darker brown Then when dry a put a light coat of brown panel liner on it.
The Oberursel engine is modelled correctly. The exhaust pipes are at the back of the engine. The cylinders are positioned directly in the airflow to improve cooling. At Hahnweide Oldtimer Meeting in 2019 I could attend the "dogfihgts" of Mikeal Carlson with his DR1 and a fokker E3 replica. Very amazing. In YT you could find some films of these event, inculding pictures from the exhibition with details of the Oberursel engine.
This looks awesome. Great build Andy. I think it needs a Sopwith Camel and a dio. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink say no more.
Andy, that is a beautiful Red Baron! WOW! How did you do the laminate wood look on the propeller?
What I love about you Andy is your no BS approach to modelling. I am sick to death already of so called ‘professional modellers’ moaning about to this kit, using its ‘faults’ as a reason to show off their ability to count rivets. But you, you just get it done and produce a build any of us ‘mediocre modellers’ (see what I did there 😉) would be proud of. A awesome video...just one tiny question....where or how did you get the prop to look THAT good!
Thank you . I just painted a desert tan color masked it with 1 mm tape and the painted a darker brown Then when dry a put a light coat of brown panel liner on it.
Everyone else is correct on the engine. I worked on Pratt & Whitney R-1340 radial engines for 9 years and the first thing I noticed when you showed the models engine was the nose case and pushrod tubes were up front. That told me right there that the engine wasn’t on backwards. Now, don’t hold me to this, but instead of just the propeller spinning, the whole engine may have been spinning. Some did during WWI, but I’m not sure which ones did it that way. Other than that, another great video and another superb model by you.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you,,i found out to the whole engine spun too . thanks for watching.
Werner Voss Fokker F.1 has a captured Le Rhone engine from a crashed Nieuport but production Fokker DR.1 triplanes has Oberursel engines.
Love it Andy, have a couple....handful, that I want to do and Red Baron's is definitely among them! Friedrich “Fritz” Kempf with the "KEMPF" - "Kennscht mi noch?" 213/17, Josef Jacobs and his black Dr. I, Karl Bolle's 413/17....
Looking forward to the next build!
Thank you
The Fokker DR 1 at the Aviodome aircraft museum in the Netherlands has an Oberursel Ur.II 9-cylinder rotartie motor, 110 pk. By looking at the pictures you have the engine in the right way.
How does this compare to Merit 1/24 scale version? Looks really nice.
Nice
IMO very good weathering! They took care of their planes/equipment, so I don’t think that the machines were very dirty all the time.
And the pilots seat is made from ? Nice job Andy .
I would have to look at my airdrome books on the dr1
Informative video as always. My only question is the top wing supposed to have dihedral? Maybe I've never noticed.
No it’s not suppose to and I didn’t know either. I have to admit I love WW I planes but never researched to much about them . I had fun building it and would build it again ( different markings of corse lol) thanks for watching
All three wings were built around a straight box spar. The ribs were very thin and slipped over the box spar and fixed into place with gussets. The entire wing was relatively strong. The V.4 Prototype actually was designed and built without the outer wing struts, relying only on the v struts from the fuselage and the cable bracing to hold it steady
What about rigging in the cockpit? As far as I know there was a lot of wires inside...
How did you paint the wood effect on the propeller ?
What a beautiful model. I always ask myself how many kills Manfred von Richtofen would have had if he had survived April 21st, 1918 and flown the Fokker D-VII ?