You can't stop a Goodman! ;-) That was probably the first time it had ever been cleaned or charged, if that's junk, well... we'll see how long the Trane lasts with that dryer vent blowing it.
I’ve installed many many Goodman units. Never had an issue. I’ve got some out there that I’ve installed over 20 years ago and they’re still going strong. Ive installed just as many Carriers and I can honestly say that I’ve had more leakers / issues with ICP. Their commercial offerings are complete junk in my opinion. The debate over what brand is the best will always exist. They all have their nuances. I believe the quality of the install is more important than the name on the equipment and I tell my customers that. I stay away from NuBrite. It works well, but it will definitely take paint off of coated coils and also turns galvanized roofs black. I use Cal Clean HD or Tripower. By the way, I would have washed the other one too. 😉 I love your channel, your honesty, knowledge and work ethic. 👍
I agree but this guy has TRANE on the BRAIN and is blind to all others so he has to bash for no reason...he hasn't even proved that the Goodman products are leaking and not some line or valve.
I have a Goodman A/C only unit, much like the model in this video, and it has worked well over the last 20 years or so. Had to replace one capacitor, nothing else. I also have a Trane heat pump for another zone. It's only about 7 years old, and it has also been reliable. I agree with others that the quality of the installation (including specifying the appropriate equipment in the first place) and reasonable attention to preventative maintenance are more important than brand.
Say what you will about Goodman, They made every other manufacture up their warranty, They were the first ones to have a 10 year warranty. Goodman medium grade unit. Good video.
I put Goodman's in all my 9 rental homes, got rid of the Lennox, Ruud, Rheems, Carriers and the other junk !!!! They were nickel and dime and dollaring me to death !!!!! Blowing caps, fan motors burn up, circuit board every year, leaking here, leaking there, TXV problems....etc.... Now, all I've ever done is change a capacitor or contactor every few years !!!! I swear by Goodman, so easy to fix and don't have to wait weeks for a part from China or some other island in the pacific ocean !!!!!!! Oh, and did I mention I can buy 3 Goodman's for the price of 1 crappy Lennox or Trane !!!!!
But in the end they all leak eventually and Evan good quality stuff wears out.... especially if it's in constant use, don't be fooled man, there expensive and break due to poor maintenance alot of the time....... get it checked every 6 months and possible cleaned every 6 to 8 months or once a season 👀
I got a cheap fan and clean it every 6 month and grease it up and it's lasted me 2 years 😜 but for real the coils getting dirty and overheating the pump can cause it to eventually burn out........sometimes you can't win man........ bare in mind just because it's a known good brand doesn't mean it won't give you issues if not maintained properly 🙂
Your experience is based on success with nine goodmans and failures w , likely, the cheapest models of the other brands . Likely installed b the cheapest HVAC guys you could find I think I will more likely trust the thoughts of good HVAC guys who have experience with hundreds or more AC systems and service calls . Hope your luck holds up .
Had my Goodman 16 years, did absolutely nothing as far as maintenance, til it blew hot air. Got a new capacitor cleaned my vents and that sum uh gun blows colder than ever. $20 fix thank you Jesus
Decided to replace my still working, 17-year-old, 2.5 Ton Rheem with higher efficiency 3 Ton Rheem which paid for itself in about 2.5 yrs with the electricity savings here in South Florida. The original 2.5 Ton only required the replacement of one start capacitor and one condenser contactor during its entire life and required a limited intellect like me to do it. My dear brother went the whole hog and installed a fancy Trane which has required a specialized Trane brand technician four times and is not able to DIY "because of how complicated it is to do so", he says. Also says it even required a laptop to dianose! Feel bad for him as I imagine it's not easy drinking down several cups of that bitter regret-after-purchase brew. He recognizes that Trane is a superior product for superior personal incomes. Like your video and subscribed!
Got my junky old Goodman coils cleaned…hehehe. Loved your video. Thanks for helping a gal do it herself👍🏻✌🏻If I can do it, anybody can do it. I did need the help of a pry bar to get the cover back on and had to push pretty hard on the final corner of the bottom cage while pulling on the final corner of the cover, but by crackies, I got it! 💪🏻 My A/C guy lives and works by the same principles as you do. He treats his customers right. I didn’t feel the need to call him for this because I wanted to prove to myself that I can do easy maintenance. Plus he just cleaned it last winter. It wasn’t terrible but we’ve had a lot of dust storms and I’m doing fall cleaning anyway.
My dad taught me as a teenager back in the late 70 to clean those every year in the spring before they were needed. we would vac out the leaf buildup and just used a hose with a sprayer on it. then while it was drying he would bring the fan in the garage and put oil in the holes marked oil. that simple yearly maint made it last and almost never had break down beyond a cap or blower motor in the house I do it to my home now as well. The only thing is, the fans don't have oil holes on them anymore. And now they break down a lot more cause you can no longer oil the bearings
I met you a few years back on the Trane factory tour sat next to you on the bus. I really enjoy these videos and I can assure folks that watch these videos that your a man of the utmost integrity. Your an asset to your community and a trusted servant to your customers. There are a ton of hacks out here and many of them think they are the best at what they do. They may be right, they are great at ripping off the customers. If I were living in your area I would love to work for your company but all I can do is make sure what you practice there is practiced here by my techs as I am in the management field now. Your customers are blessed to have you and your company to service all their HVAC needs. BTW keep riding those HOGS!
C'mon man...I enjoy your videos and have learned alot from you. But can you please explain why you did not get the leaves out of the bottom of that unit before you sprayed it? Were talking 2 minutes here to get those leaves out....? There are weep holes stamped into the bottom that allow drainage. I am really surprised you left those leaves in the bottom.
As I have explained to several others, this is a temporary Band-Aid fix for a fatally damaged system. It is R22 refrigerant and it has a leak. Seem to have missed some of the video not to have caught that.
Part of the business is building a good reputation & gaining customer trust 👍 Good job! They sure will reach out to you when the time comes to replace that old unit
That unit will never die, what will happen is some unscrupulous tech will find a bad cap or contractor, BECAUSE THATS ALL THERE IS TO BREAK, and tell them they need a new unit.
All units are basically the same. The main problem I see, is with improper installation and dirty filters (or NO filter at all). You probably wouldn't be on this call as you pointed out...That dryer vent location. I always enjoy your videos and think you do an awesome job. When I used to do Real Estate HVAC inspections, my number 1 problem I found was Improperly sized returns. Over 10 years of doing them, and I only found 3 homes that where correct.
Honesty is so hard to come by these days, I followed your video, cleaned our evaporator coils that were clogged up and the results were obvious. Simple things that can be done by home owners too to save cost. Good Video and good honest thoughts for the customers ! Please keep going.
Thank you so much for the video. So many technicians that work for large companies, are too geared for SALE-SALE-SALE, as they make more commissions for every sale. It's Great to see a VERY HONEST technician going through patient and thorough examination and detailed quality service. I learned to use Commerical coil cleaner for a 2 year cleaning, and "Simple Green" brand cleaner every 6 months. My unit is 12 years old and cooled great. I finally changed to Carrier and jumped up 3 more SEER rating to save money down the road.
How Dare Thee! My Goodman is 24 years old, an R22 unit. It has Never seen a service technician except for the homeowner. My condenser unit is in the shade. So my CAP has never failed due to any over heating issues, but after 20 years, I simple changed it out for a shiny new Amrad Capacitor, my Contactor was still working good too, but I changed it out also, I think I got my monies worth. I clean the coils every year with my Nu-Calgon foaming coil gun and wand. Keep the leaves and debris out of the center compressor area, even check the Schrader valves for leaks, don't want to lose any freon. I can afford the highest efficiency brands but, I'm going to stick with Goodman. I kind of like the fact that every repair guy running around out there, has the replacement parts right on their truck, and I don't have to wait for parts shipped. Thats an additional value right there. Not that I EVER needed any, but it's a comforting thought..Lol
A "JUNKIE OLD GOODMAN"? I have this same model on my home that is 15 years old and has NEVER needed a service call. It runs now as good and efficient as the day it was installed. $215.00 Dollars an hour?!!!! What do you think you are.............A LAWYER!!!!!!
Never use nubrite or any kind of acidic coil cleaner. Coils are made by extruding copper tubing thru aluminum fins. When u use acids they cause oxidation where copper contacts aluminum,oxidation acts as insulation causing drop in efficiency. Loose the acid, water hose and dish soap work great
Hey, Ted.....Great video and refreshing to see a truly honest tech. You may want to contact that customer and have them also move the CENTRAL VACUUM DIRTY AIR DISCHARGE that is directly behind the Goodman unit - as well as the dryer vent. You can see brown discharge on ground under vent in the video. Color of dirt on Goodman coils was mostly brown not white coming most likely from vac discharge. Keep up the good work !
I replaced my 1995 model Goodman two years ago. I replaced it with another Goodman. An HVAC business owner told me that he recommends Goodman over other brands. I agree with that, and have no complaints.
Next level junk. 😉 I’ve had multiple Trane and Rheem systems in my properties I manage that get 15 or 20 years plus. Never had a Goodman make it anywhere near that. My oldest currently in service is a Rheem from 1993. It’s knocking 30 years in the rear end. In the south, Goodmans just wear out faster in this heat, where it’s 75 at night sometimes in the summer. Maybe up north where people have gas heat and use AC sparingly, Goodmans may be ok. 🤠
@@stevenlavimoniere sure but I guarantee you a Goodman will leak sooner and don't even get me started on their heat pumps we use here in the south, complete garbage units. Our company refuses to sell Goodman anymore. Rheem/Ruud is our basic system and they are really good units for tne money.
I have 3 Amana units which are just Goodman with the Amana badge. One heat pump and 2 A/C. No issues from the condensing units other than a couple bad capacitors. Just changed one today that has a 5/5/2009 date on it. These are 13 year old units. Installed them myself after getting EPA 608 I, II and III certified. Had trouble finding an HVAC company to do it because they were all going out of business due to the 2008 financial crisis. Back in 2017, I had to replace all three evaporator coils due to the infamous leaks in the extremely thin copper pipes. Actually, I replaced the 2 that were in the gas furnaces because they were available at good prices. All aluminum. For the air handler, I could only find one coil that cost as much as a better air handler so I bought the better air handler instead with the aluminum coil. R410A was under $100 for 25 lbs back then. It's over $500 for 25 lbs today. The amana furnaces have stainless heat exchangers. Not sure if the goodman do also since the selling point of the amana is that stainless heat steel exchanger. Anyway, when the cap died, I noticed that the back and side of the A/C unit and heat pump in that location were caked with gray fuzz. The dryer vent is about 5 ft away so they've been sucking in all the dryer lint for about 5 years. We've been doing a lot more clothing because we have a teenage girl and she wears a weeks worth of clothing in a day so my wife is always washing and drying her clothing.
It would be interesting to get your reasons why you wouldn't install a Goodman for your own home. I'm no AC/Tech at all, but I am a savvy shopper and see a very good availability of non-overpriced parts from Goodman that even a semi-skilled homeowner can order and replace. That's why I am considering a Goodman for my next heat pump.
@@TedCookHVAC Well this one is pretty old and still going strong. We have 2 Amanas built by Goodman that are 14 years old and we have had little problems with them.
Thanks for the info on how to clean the unit it seems to have solved my problems. I have had a hvac guy out a few times and he never even checked that.
This video is great PR for your company. A shaky fly by night service tech would never show everyone everything he did and why. You are right about customer service too. Be honest with them, do what you can to help them out and give the work value, and they will be with you forever.
Always a surprise when the customer has to buy an AC…. Couldn’t be more true. It is odd that people dont seem to mind spending $100k+ on a brand new car, or millions on their homes but flip out at the few grand necessary to spend on a quality unit replacement. I always maintain that our trade is a highly under appreciated one, until theres no air!
I don't work in this industry. OTOH, I took care of the water treatment for the Goodman R&D and the Goodman factory in Houston, so I walked through every month, until Daikin bought them out and moved the factory. Plus- Goodman was very involved in R&D, and torture testing. They would put units in rooms and run them in extreme temps and rain/humidity. Minus- Goodman (or their distributors) would sell to anybody with money and a truck or van. Nearly every problem with their units had a installation or maintenance problem.
Watch this channel so much I DIY all my Hvac maintenance. Getting 22.5° temp differential on a 1970's carrier A/C that hadn't been serviced in at least 15 years. So old it has oil ports on the condenser fan motor. Thanks alot for your time putting these videos out
Airflow is the issue. That much delta says the air is in contact with the coil much too long. Some of the causes would be slow fan speed, clogged fan blades, clogged coils, clogged filter, restriction in the ducts.
I like your philosophy Ted. Not blowing smoke here!!! That’s how I like to be treated as a customer myself and I will certainly make sure the people I do business with will be taken care of. That’s how good partnerships with customers is built!!! 👍👍
As a home owner, I have lint issues as well, not from the drier but we have dogwood trees in the neighborhood. I ended up buying an ac screen that wraps the outside of the unit. Then I can run my hand over it to remove the lint. It probably does reduce the air flow a little, but if monitored and cleaned regularly, less then getting the dogwood lint on the coils themselves.
The only people who down Goodman are the ones with Carrier, Trane, etc. on the side of their truck. The better 410 Goodmans also have a lifetime warranty on the rotary compressors. Talk to someone who services all brands and they will tell you that most premature failures belong to the units with the fancy nameplates. BTW, in 2006 or 2009 this unit could have been either 410A or R22. You need to check the plate on the inside panel to be sure.
I have the same vintage model Goodman on my house, and it's a good call not to take the sides off. They are cheaply made and very difficult to get back together!
Amazing how even only a coil cleaning service video is enough to teach me valuable information . Thanks for this video, starting to watch a lot more of your videos then others
Say what you will about Goodman but I’ve worked on my fair share of trances and they are no better or worse than any other brand. They are all junk anymore.
Just replaced my 20 year old still- working 5 ton Goodman condensing unit. It was a trouble free unit. It always had an annual check up and cleaned the coils annually and never let them get clogged up.
very good man io started to clean out them systems over 4 years ago and i may want to becomes a tech in this field soon i know it is alot of people out there that would have charged so much just to clean it out and than adding any R22 would have been more like 1000 bucks easy thank you for being a good person we need more like you
My neighbor has a 2.5 ton Goodman that was installed in the year 2000. She had the same issue but worse including dog hair. I cleaned it for her and then noticed 20% of the cooling fins were totally corroded and gone from where the dog had been urinating on it for years. Put all back together, turned it on and has been running like a champ ever since with no leaks. That was 3 years ago.
I wish I would have watched this video before cleaning my goodman today. I had the darndest time getting that top portion off the unit so I could clean in there. I even scratched the top of pretty good so i'm a little upset as its just several months old. I'm not sure I could have set it against my wall like that because the wires going to the fan motor were pretty tight. Anyways I have the same problem with a dryer vent being right beside my unit like this causing a mess! So I've got to see what I can do to get that moved asap! Great video!
You are Very good business man, you and I think very much alike, I always keep my service calls as low as possible and still accomplish what is needed to make the ac perform as good as possible, in return they always call me the next time , whether it’s another service call or a system change out
Goodman is a 10 year unit they aren’t quality units trane is more expensive but you get what you pay for at the end of the day I’ve replaced a Goodman system that was 5 years old and the system was a lemon all together I will say if you flip house and you need a new system then go ahead and put a Goodman in because they’re cheap but if you are talking about long term reliability go with a trane
I've got the same Goodman condenser, was severely plugged up coil last year; but still kicking it!!. Severely neglected for 15 years, have no issues whatsoever. I gave it the deep clean with the Venom Coil cleaner, and it cooled the house down right quick!!. The only problem is getting the side panels off, kind of a pain; but take your time and be careful installing.
You are the man we had that exact same unit installed in 2005 Still running had to change the capacitor last summer but it’s still running and now I know how to clean it myself thanks
The subdivision I live in is about 11 or 12 years old. I believe all of the houses were built with cheaper Goodman AC/Furnaces. When building a new house, they definitely go the cheapest route with everything. My house was built in 2010. The condenser unit is still running good, however, the AC coil froze up last year due it leaking Freon.
Things made today are not intended to last very long. Manufacturing company's have learned they can make a lot more money by making products that crap out on you in a much shorter time period. It looks like the biggest problem these people had with there Goodman was the lack of maintenance. I also think you gave them a pretty good price for the work you did, kudo's to you for not sticking it to them like a lot of other's would have done.
Looks like the condenser fan shroud was missing. Maybe someone put a larger fan blade in. Hence - That condenser might/gonna struggle a lil bit without it. Yes, they're a bit of a PITA. (I have two of 'em of my own that I struggle with each year when I do my maintenance! Dual coils on a 4 and a 5 ton unit) Good job as always, Ted!
Obviously, you being a DIY person will explain why you did not catch the key factors here that do not want a very thorough preservation job of this particular unit. For one thing, it is an R 22 unit with a refrigerant leak. Did you not catch that? Fatal issues, but the leaves in the bottom are worth my time and the customers money for me to remove ??
I have the money to put in a Trane, Bryant, Carrier, etc. My Trane is about 25 years old, but I will be 80' soon, so I got three other estimates and all three above compared to the Goodman were three times the price for the same Seer rating, 4 ton unit, etc. and combined with an 80,000 BTU furnace. Go figure! After reading over 75+ reviews I see Goodman scores about 90% favorability even over these more expensive brands. I also have an older A.C. Tech guy and am concerned how long he can keep on keeping on, so I have a back-up plan for that too, another friend who is young that has his own Air & Heating company, just in case I out live my tech. I outlived all my doctors, so why take a chance. I believe this case was the dryer duck issue and the family took terrible care of the unit too. If you do the annual cleaning, etc. on the Goodman it will just go into my estate, as we can not take a Trane with you either. I know the Egyptian Pharaohs tried to take even boats with them, but they still sit inside the tomb. I saw them, so my Goodman will go with the estate sale as you can not take them with you!
Arranging for re-locating that dryer vent away from the HVAC units would seem to be an absolute #1 priority for that customer; to pony up the money & actually get it taken care of.
It's funny how people think that number being high means you are making a killing when reality after insurance, labor, fuel, utilities, parts, tax, and everything else you're lucky to see 5-10% of that in alot of cases.
They would probably appreciate you cleaning out the leaves so the drain holes aren't clogged up. This will cause the unit to go out from the rain water not draining properly. Yes the cleaning is helping the unit last longer, but finish the job.
Thanks for a good honest approach and keeping the customer at the top of the list.If that were me I know I would def give you the best look on a quote for a new system.I really appreciate the honesty and standing behind your name and business.
Goodman gets a bad wrap because of their affordability which means low end techs/installers are doing the jobs. I’ve had 2 issues in 10 years with my Goodman installs and 1 was an installer error.
Think he likes Goodman, LOL! We have 2 Goodman's on my house in Phoenix AZ since 1/07 and only charged once and I replaced the starter cap for upstairs unit. The AC guy wanted $300 to replace a cap that he said was $80. I went to electronic supply warehouse and picked one up for $40, although this was in 2015. I replaced the thing myself. Now whomever manufactured the air handlers upstairs has a lot to be desired as I have had to replace the blower motor on the same handler twice in '13 (for motor) and '16 (for both motor and cage blower) as AC man wanted over $700 ('13) which I had him do it, and quoted me $900 ('16). Maybe have the fact they both died in the middle of summer, LOL! I have electronic tech degree and my father is a certified electrician and AC tech so I called him up in FL and he gave me some pointers and here it goes; I DIY'd it, LMAO!! Replaced both motor and blower cage which was a stamped POS that separated so I spent extra and purchased one that was tack welded to the tune of $380. No problems since! We have the units checked every spring and I clean the compressors unit coils myself. Being a son of an Army vet and myself an ex-Navy squid, preventative maintenance is in my blood. It has literally saved us thousands of dollars.
The Goodman heat pump installed in our home lasted 9 years. A total piece of junk. We spent several thousand dollars in repairs over and above the annual service visits during the 9 years. All of my neighbors with Goodman heat pumps had similar problems and replaced with different brands. Life spans of the Goodman units were 7 to 12 years; all were new construction installation. I won’t have a Goodman unit ever again.
That hose spray handle you use is available at any garden center, it is a Gilmore with a quick connect part, and a plastic cover. I use it on all my coil cleaning jobs. Best handle there is.
Exact same unit I have in a 4 ton. Past 2 years I’ve had to charge it when spring comes around. Compressor started squealing last year from higher head pressure when it’s real hot outside. Yeah I’m pushing as long as I can, but you could eat off the coils. 🤣🤣
I have installed AC/Furnaces for 40 plus years , Just my observation , I noticed the dryer vent is next to condenser may suck lint right into outdoor unit ,it may need to be moves ,I hope this helps,Dave
We have an old tan (which has faded to gray) Janitrol branded Goodman. We are getting it replaced on Monday. It’s leaking pretty bad and needs to be recharged often now, and we are also getting the furnace replaced with it. The air coming out of the vents is very weak.
You can't stop a Goodman! ;-) That was probably the first time it had ever been cleaned or charged, if that's junk, well... we'll see how long the Trane lasts with that dryer vent blowing it.
$215 an hour now I know why I do my own cleaning of both the evap and cons.
I have a goodman that's 22 years old now, zero issues besides one blown capacitor 3 years ago. It's been excellent.
Mine is from 1998, still runs like a champ
I’ve installed many many Goodman units. Never had an issue. I’ve got some out there that I’ve installed over 20 years ago and they’re still going strong. Ive installed just as many Carriers and I can honestly say that I’ve had more leakers / issues with ICP. Their commercial offerings are complete junk in my opinion. The debate over what brand is the best will always exist. They all have their nuances. I believe the quality of the install is more important than the name on the equipment and I tell my customers that. I stay away from NuBrite. It works well, but it will definitely take paint off of coated coils and also turns galvanized roofs black. I use Cal Clean HD or Tripower. By the way, I would have washed the other one too. 😉
I love your channel, your honesty, knowledge and work ethic. 👍
I agree but this guy has TRANE on the BRAIN and is blind to all others so he has to bash for no reason...he hasn't even proved that the Goodman products are leaking and not some line or valve.
We just replaced our 22 year old Goodman with a new Goodman unit (5 ton) and have never had a problem with the old unit.
ON the money regarding quality of install being important . (chain only as strong as weakest link)
I have a Goodman A/C only unit, much like the model in this video, and it has worked well over the last 20 years or so. Had to replace one capacitor, nothing else. I also have a Trane heat pump for another zone. It's only about 7 years old, and it has also been reliable. I agree with others that the quality of the installation (including specifying the appropriate equipment in the first place) and reasonable attention to preventative maintenance are more important than brand.
Seems only snobby Carrier and Trane dealers bash Goodman
I have a Goodman and have had it for about 15 years and only had to recharge the system once. I clean it every other year and still works great.
Say what you will about Goodman, They made every other manufacture up their warranty, They were the first ones to have a 10 year warranty. Goodman medium grade unit. Good video.
I put Goodman's in all my 9 rental homes, got rid of the Lennox, Ruud, Rheems, Carriers and the other junk !!!! They were nickel and dime and dollaring me to death !!!!! Blowing caps, fan motors burn up, circuit board every year, leaking here, leaking there, TXV problems....etc.... Now, all I've ever done is change a capacitor or contactor every few years !!!! I swear by Goodman, so easy to fix and don't have to wait weeks for a part from China or some other island in the pacific ocean !!!!!!! Oh, and did I mention I can buy 3 Goodman's for the price of 1 crappy Lennox or Trane !!!!!
But in the end they all leak eventually and Evan good quality stuff wears out.... especially if it's in constant use, don't be fooled man, there expensive and break due to poor maintenance alot of the time....... get it checked every 6 months and possible cleaned every 6 to 8 months or once a season 👀
I got a cheap fan and clean it every 6 month and grease it up and it's lasted me 2 years 😜 but for real the coils getting dirty and overheating the pump can cause it to eventually burn out........sometimes you can't win man........ bare in mind just because it's a known good brand doesn't mean it won't give you issues if not maintained properly 🙂
Wait till you put a brand new Goodman in and have the condenser coil leaking immediately. Badman is more like it lol
Still US made, I believe.
Your experience is based on success with nine goodmans and failures w , likely, the cheapest models of the other brands . Likely installed b the cheapest HVAC guys you could find
I think I will more likely trust the thoughts of good HVAC guys who have experience with hundreds or more AC systems and service calls .
Hope your luck holds up .
I would think the customer would want the 🍁 leaves out of the bottom. 5 minutes
Had my Goodman 16 years, did absolutely nothing as far as maintenance, til it blew hot air. Got a new capacitor cleaned my vents and that sum uh gun blows colder than ever. $20 fix thank you Jesus
Decided to replace my still working, 17-year-old, 2.5 Ton Rheem with higher efficiency 3 Ton Rheem which paid for itself in about 2.5 yrs with the electricity savings here in South Florida.
The original 2.5 Ton only required the replacement of one start capacitor and one condenser contactor during its entire life and required a limited intellect like me to do it.
My dear brother went the whole hog and installed a fancy Trane which has required a specialized Trane brand technician four times and is not able to DIY "because of how complicated it is to do so", he says. Also says it even required a laptop to dianose! Feel bad for him as I imagine it's not easy drinking down several cups of that bitter regret-after-purchase brew. He recognizes that Trane is a superior product for superior personal incomes.
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Got my junky old Goodman coils cleaned…hehehe. Loved your video. Thanks for helping a gal do it herself👍🏻✌🏻If I can do it, anybody can do it. I did need the help of a pry bar to get the cover back on and had to push pretty hard on the final corner of the bottom cage while pulling on the final corner of the cover, but by crackies, I got it! 💪🏻 My A/C guy lives and works by the same principles as you do. He treats his customers right. I didn’t feel the need to call him for this because I wanted to prove to myself that I can do easy maintenance. Plus he just cleaned it last winter. It wasn’t terrible but we’ve had a lot of dust storms and I’m doing fall cleaning anyway.
My dad taught me as a teenager back in the late 70 to clean those every year in the spring before they were needed. we would vac out the leaf buildup and just used a hose with a sprayer on it. then while it was drying he would bring the fan in the garage and put oil in the holes marked oil. that simple yearly maint made it last and almost never had break down beyond a cap or blower motor in the house I do it to my home now as well. The only thing is, the fans don't have oil holes on them anymore. And now they break down a lot more cause you can no longer oil the bearings
I met you a few years back on the Trane factory tour sat next to you on the bus. I really enjoy these videos and I can assure folks that watch these videos that your a man of the utmost integrity. Your an asset to your community and a trusted servant to your customers. There are a ton of hacks out here and many of them think they are the best at what they do. They may be right, they are great at ripping off the customers. If I were living in your area I would love to work for your company but all I can do is make sure what you practice there is practiced here by my techs as I am in the management field now. Your customers are blessed to have you and your company to service all their HVAC needs. BTW keep riding those HOGS!
HVAC repairs typically cost $75 to $150 per hour.
This guy states $215. per hour.
C'mon man...I enjoy your videos and have learned alot from you. But can you please explain why you did not get the leaves out of the bottom of that unit before you sprayed it? Were talking 2 minutes here to get those leaves out....? There are weep holes stamped into the bottom that allow drainage. I am really surprised you left those leaves in the bottom.
Are you serious? that's a 35$ up charge for this guy 😂
As I have explained to several others, this is a temporary Band-Aid fix for a fatally damaged system. It is R22 refrigerant and it has a leak. Seem to have missed some of the video not to have caught that.
Part of the business is building a good reputation & gaining customer trust 👍 Good job! They sure will reach out to you when the time comes to replace that old unit
That unit will never die, what will happen is some unscrupulous tech will find a bad cap or contractor, BECAUSE THATS ALL THERE IS TO BREAK, and tell them they need a new unit.
All units are basically the same. The main problem I see, is with improper installation and dirty filters (or NO filter at all). You probably wouldn't be on this call as you pointed out...That dryer vent location. I always enjoy your videos and think you do an awesome job. When I used to do Real Estate HVAC inspections, my number 1 problem I found was Improperly sized returns. Over 10 years of doing them, and I only found 3 homes that where correct.
Honesty is so hard to come by these days, I followed your video, cleaned our evaporator coils that were clogged up and the results were obvious. Simple things that can be done by home owners too to save cost.
Good Video and good honest thoughts for the customers ! Please keep going.
They condensers were put there so the homeowner doesn't have lint in their yard.
Thank you so much for the video. So many technicians that work for large companies, are too geared for SALE-SALE-SALE, as they make more commissions for every sale. It's Great to see a VERY HONEST technician going through patient and thorough examination and detailed quality service. I learned to use Commerical coil cleaner for a 2 year cleaning, and "Simple Green" brand cleaner every 6 months. My unit is 12 years old and cooled great. I finally changed to Carrier and jumped up 3 more SEER rating to save money down the road.
How Dare Thee! My Goodman is 24 years old, an R22 unit. It has Never seen a service technician except for the homeowner. My condenser unit is in the shade. So my CAP has never failed due to any over heating issues, but after 20 years, I simple changed it out for a shiny new Amrad Capacitor, my Contactor was still working good too, but I changed it out also, I think I got my monies worth. I clean the coils every year with my Nu-Calgon foaming coil gun and wand. Keep the leaves and debris out of the center compressor area, even check the Schrader valves for leaks, don't want to lose any freon. I can afford the highest efficiency brands but, I'm going to stick with Goodman. I kind of like the fact that every repair guy running around out there, has the replacement parts right on their truck, and I don't have to wait for parts shipped. Thats an additional value right there. Not that I EVER needed any, but it's a comforting thought..Lol
As a homeowner, really appreciate your videos. This one is same situation we have. Build install dryer vent right next to our outside unit.
A "JUNKIE OLD GOODMAN"?
I have this same model on my home that is 15 years old and has NEVER needed a service call.
It runs now as good and efficient as the day it was installed.
$215.00 Dollars an hour?!!!! What do you think you are.............A LAWYER!!!!!!
Everything you said about customer service and retention is spot on. Glad I don't do AC even though it's stamped on my van!
Never use nubrite or any kind of acidic coil cleaner. Coils are made by extruding copper tubing thru aluminum fins. When u use acids they cause oxidation where copper contacts aluminum,oxidation acts as insulation causing drop in efficiency. Loose the acid, water hose and dish soap work great
Hey, Ted.....Great video and refreshing to see a truly honest tech. You may want to contact that customer and have them also move the CENTRAL VACUUM DIRTY AIR DISCHARGE that is directly behind the Goodman unit - as well as the dryer vent. You can see brown discharge on ground under vent in the video. Color of dirt on Goodman coils was mostly brown not white coming most likely from vac discharge. Keep up the good work !
Teaching me a lot. Appreciate the video. I am switching into hvac as a career. These kinds of videos are helpful.
I replaced my 1995 model Goodman two years ago. I replaced it with another Goodman. An HVAC business owner told me that he recommends Goodman over other brands. I agree with that, and have no complaints.
YOU CANT STOP A GOODMAN MAMA NEXT LEVEL
The only thing you can't stop a Goodman from doing is LEAKING Momma that's what they are best for doing!!!
Lmao ohhhyeaaa
@@tuffram2165 THEY ALL LEAK ALL BRANDS AND MODELS DONT BE FOOLED
Next level junk. 😉 I’ve had multiple Trane and Rheem systems in my properties I manage that get 15 or 20 years plus. Never had a Goodman make it anywhere near that. My oldest currently in service is a Rheem from 1993. It’s knocking 30 years in the rear end. In the south, Goodmans just wear out faster in this heat, where it’s 75 at night sometimes in the summer. Maybe up north where people have gas heat and use AC sparingly, Goodmans may be ok. 🤠
@@stevenlavimoniere sure but I guarantee you a Goodman will leak sooner and don't even get me started on their heat pumps we use here in the south, complete garbage units. Our company refuses to sell Goodman anymore. Rheem/Ruud is our basic system and they are really good units for tne money.
i see a good man here that does not over charge either,great to see this!
I have 3 Amana units which are just Goodman with the Amana badge. One heat pump and 2 A/C. No issues from the condensing units other than a couple bad capacitors. Just changed one today that has a 5/5/2009 date on it. These are 13 year old units. Installed them myself after getting EPA 608 I, II and III certified. Had trouble finding an HVAC company to do it because they were all going out of business due to the 2008 financial crisis.
Back in 2017, I had to replace all three evaporator coils due to the infamous leaks in the extremely thin copper pipes. Actually, I replaced the 2 that were in the gas furnaces because they were available at good prices. All aluminum. For the air handler, I could only find one coil that cost as much as a better air handler so I bought the better air handler instead with the aluminum coil. R410A was under $100 for 25 lbs back then. It's over $500 for 25 lbs today. The amana furnaces have stainless heat exchangers. Not sure if the goodman do also since the selling point of the amana is that stainless heat steel exchanger.
Anyway, when the cap died, I noticed that the back and side of the A/C unit and heat pump in that location were caked with gray fuzz. The dryer vent is about 5 ft away so they've been sucking in all the dryer lint for about 5 years. We've been doing a lot more clothing because we have a teenage girl and she wears a weeks worth of clothing in a day so my wife is always washing and drying her clothing.
Boy the top of that dual run capacitor sure looks sweaty..
Nothing wrong with that Goodman, prob last another 15 years if properly maintained. Shop vac those leaves out of the bottom.
Honestly, great work man. Clearly you care about what you do. You have a spirit of a fighter who keeps things going. Respect 👍
It would be interesting to get your reasons why you wouldn't install a Goodman for your own home. I'm no AC/Tech at all, but I am a savvy shopper and see a very good availability of non-overpriced parts from Goodman that even a semi-skilled homeowner can order and replace. That's why I am considering a Goodman for my next heat pump.
Because Goodman is nothing but junk !
@@TedCookHVAC Well this one is pretty old and still going strong. We have 2 Amanas built by Goodman that are 14 years old and we have had little problems with them.
love this guys honest opinion. straight to the point old school talk. good work brother ive learned alot
Thanks for the info on how to clean the unit it seems to have solved my problems. I have had a hvac guy out a few times and he never even checked that.
This video is great PR for your company. A shaky fly by night service tech would never show everyone everything he did and why. You are right about customer service too. Be honest with them, do what you can to help them out and give the work value, and they will be with you forever.
Always a surprise when the customer has to buy an AC…. Couldn’t be more true. It is odd that people dont seem to mind spending $100k+ on a brand new car, or millions on their homes but flip out at the few grand necessary to spend on a quality unit replacement. I always maintain that our trade is a highly under appreciated one, until theres no air!
That is more than reasonable for all that work! You are watching an excellent troubleshooter and tech here folks! TY Sir!
I don't work in this industry. OTOH, I took care of the water treatment for the Goodman R&D and the Goodman factory in Houston, so I walked through every month, until Daikin bought them out and moved the factory. Plus- Goodman was very involved in R&D, and torture testing. They would put units in rooms and run them in extreme temps and rain/humidity. Minus- Goodman (or their distributors) would sell to anybody with money and a truck or van. Nearly every problem with their units had a installation or maintenance problem.
really have enjoyed your videos throughout theses years!!!
Watch this channel so much I DIY all my Hvac maintenance. Getting 22.5° temp differential on a 1970's carrier A/C that hadn't been serviced in at least 15 years. So old it has oil ports on the condenser fan motor. Thanks alot for your time putting these videos out
Airflow is the issue. That much delta says the air is in contact with the coil much too long. Some of the causes would be slow fan speed, clogged fan blades, clogged coils, clogged filter, restriction in the ducts.
Remember folks, leave the DIY stuff to the pros, especially when it comes to operating a garden hose or changing your air filter.
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I have a Goodman had it installed last spring, I keep a cover over it during the fall and winter season to keep out the leaves and other debree.
I like your philosophy Ted. Not blowing smoke here!!!
That’s how I like to be treated as a customer myself and I will certainly make sure the people I do business with will be taken care of. That’s how good partnerships with customers is built!!! 👍👍
As a home owner, I have lint issues as well, not from the drier but we have dogwood trees in the neighborhood. I ended up buying an ac screen that wraps the outside of the unit. Then I can run my hand over it to remove the lint. It probably does reduce the air flow a little, but if monitored and cleaned regularly, less then getting the dogwood lint on the coils themselves.
The only people who down Goodman are the ones with Carrier, Trane, etc. on the side of their truck. The better 410 Goodmans also have a lifetime warranty on the rotary compressors. Talk to someone who services all brands and they will tell you that most premature failures belong to the units with the fancy nameplates. BTW, in 2006 or 2009 this unit could have been either 410A or R22. You need to check the plate on the inside panel to be sure.
I have the same vintage model Goodman on my house, and it's a good call not to take the sides off. They are cheaply made and very difficult to get back together!
Amazing how even only a coil cleaning service video is enough to teach me valuable information . Thanks for this video, starting to watch a lot more of your videos then others
Say what you will about Goodman but I’ve worked on my fair share of trances and they are no better or worse than any other brand. They are all junk anymore.
I think I like this guy’s awork ethic. He is in it for the money, but it’s not just about him it’s about his customer too.
Just replaced my 20 year old still- working 5 ton Goodman condensing unit. It was a trouble free unit. It always had an annual check up and cleaned the coils annually and never let them get clogged up.
Something about the sound of an AC compressor / fan is so relaxing to me lol
Yes the Goodman covers are a pain to mess with but they need to be removed to do the cleaning right.
very good man io started to clean out them systems over 4 years ago and i may want to becomes a tech in this field soon i know it is alot of people out there that would have charged so much just to clean it out and than adding any R22 would have been more like 1000 bucks easy thank you for being a good person we need more like you
Dang man pretty much up there with lawyers with those prices
I was taught by an old school guy very much like yourself, I like the way you operate sir.👍🏽
My neighbor has a 2.5 ton Goodman that was installed in the year 2000. She had the same issue but worse including dog hair. I cleaned it for her and then noticed 20% of the cooling fins were totally corroded and gone from where the dog had been urinating on it for years. Put all back together, turned it on and has been running like a champ ever since with no leaks. That was 3 years ago.
I wish I would have watched this video before cleaning my goodman today. I had the darndest time getting that top portion off the unit so I could clean in there. I even scratched the top of pretty good so i'm a little upset as its just several months old. I'm not sure I could have set it against my wall like that because the wires going to the fan motor were pretty tight. Anyways I have the same problem with a dryer vent being right beside my unit like this causing a mess! So I've got to see what I can do to get that moved asap! Great video!
You are Very good business man, you and I think very much alike, I always keep my service calls as low as possible and still accomplish what is needed to make the ac perform as good as possible, in return they always call me the next time , whether it’s another service call or a system change out
In my opinion Goodman is a great value for the money and fairly reliable. Trane makes an excellent product but overpriced.
Goodman is a 10 year unit they aren’t quality units trane is more expensive but you get what you pay for at the end of the day I’ve replaced a Goodman system that was 5 years old and the system was a lemon all together I will say if you flip house and you need a new system then go ahead and put a Goodman in because they’re cheap but if you are talking about long term reliability go with a trane
As Steve Lavemoire would says, "She's a leaker mama!"
Lol at least, get his name right.
"Shes a crusty one mr grinch"
Great job, and the thought process you went through - that screams quality old pro.
I've got the same Goodman condenser, was severely plugged up coil last year; but still kicking it!!. Severely neglected for 15 years, have no issues whatsoever. I gave it the deep clean with the Venom Coil cleaner, and it cooled the house down right quick!!. The only problem is getting the side panels off, kind of a pain; but take your time and be careful installing.
You are the man we had that exact same unit installed in 2005 Still running had to change the capacitor last summer but it’s still running and now I know how to clean it myself thanks
Keep doing your thing man...no need to explain yourself brother your the real deal.
great Job Ted you obviously know the value of taking care of the customer
The subdivision I live in is about 11 or 12 years old. I believe all of the houses were built with cheaper Goodman AC/Furnaces. When building a new house, they definitely go the cheapest route with everything. My house was built in 2010. The condenser unit is still running good, however, the AC coil froze up last year due it leaking Freon.
Things made today are not intended to last very long. Manufacturing company's have learned they can make a lot more money by making products that crap out on you in a much shorter time period. It looks like the biggest problem these people had with there Goodman was the lack of maintenance. I also think you gave them a pretty good price for the work you did, kudo's to you for not sticking it to them like a lot of other's would have done.
You’re a good man and I have learned a lot from you. Great videos
Looks like the condenser fan shroud was missing. Maybe someone put a larger fan blade in. Hence - That condenser might/gonna struggle a lil bit without it. Yes, they're a bit of a PITA. (I have two of 'em of my own that I struggle with each year when I do my maintenance! Dual coils on a 4 and a 5 ton unit)
Good job as always, Ted!
Dude I love that work van. Boxes right there eye level on the side. Holy smokes I am going to look for that. Express from chevy looks like.
I like how he just leaves all those leaves at the bottom of the unit. And that's why I DIY.
Obviously, you being a DIY person will explain why you did not catch the key factors here that do not want a very thorough preservation job of this particular unit. For one thing, it is an R 22 unit with a refrigerant leak. Did you not catch that? Fatal issues, but the leaves in the bottom are worth my time and the customers money for me to remove ??
I have the money to put in a Trane, Bryant, Carrier, etc. My Trane is about 25 years old, but I will be 80' soon, so I got three other estimates and all three above compared to the Goodman were three times the price for the same Seer rating, 4 ton unit, etc. and combined with an 80,000 BTU furnace. Go figure! After reading over 75+ reviews I see Goodman scores about 90% favorability even over these more expensive brands. I also have an older A.C. Tech guy and am concerned how long he can keep on keeping on, so I have a back-up plan for that too, another friend who is young that has his own Air & Heating company, just in case I out live my tech. I outlived all my doctors, so why take a chance. I believe this case was the dryer duck issue and the family took terrible care of the unit too. If you do the annual cleaning, etc. on the Goodman it will just go into my estate, as we can not take a Trane with you either. I know the Egyptian Pharaohs tried to take even boats with them, but they still sit inside the tomb. I saw them, so my Goodman will go with the estate sale as you can not take them with you!
Arranging for re-locating that dryer vent away from the HVAC units would seem to be an absolute #1 priority for that customer; to pony up the money & actually get it taken care of.
When I moved into my house, the dryer vent was right behind the outside unit. I moved it and later discovered the coils were slap packed with lint.
But it only took 15 yrs. to become an issue.
so
$215/hr? Dang, I'm changing careers lol
That has to cover
vehicle costs
Supplies
his other employees
building costs
Taxes
Training from OEMs
Tools
Knowledge is Power! When yea know yea know haha
It's funny how people think that number being high means you are making a killing when reality after insurance, labor, fuel, utilities, parts, tax, and everything else you're lucky to see 5-10% of that in alot of cases.
@@Newberntrains Don't forget about insurance costs.
Yes, I used to be a doctor.
Now I'm an HVAC tech.
Cowboy Ted has did a awesome job on this Goodman junk !
They would probably appreciate you cleaning out the leaves so the drain holes aren't clogged up. This will cause the unit to go out from the rain water not draining properly. Yes the cleaning is helping the unit last longer, but finish the job.
Thanks for a good honest approach and keeping the customer at the top of the list.If that were me I know I would def give you the best look on a quote for a new system.I really appreciate the honesty and standing behind your name and business.
Goodman gets a bad wrap because of their affordability which means low end techs/installers are doing the jobs. I’ve had 2 issues in 10 years with my Goodman installs and 1 was an installer error.
Think he likes Goodman, LOL!
We have 2 Goodman's on my house in Phoenix AZ since 1/07 and only charged once and I replaced the starter cap for upstairs unit. The AC guy wanted $300 to replace a cap that he said was $80. I went to electronic supply warehouse and picked one up for $40, although this was in 2015. I replaced the thing myself.
Now whomever manufactured the air handlers upstairs has a lot to be desired as I have had to replace the blower motor on the same handler twice in '13 (for motor) and '16 (for both motor and cage blower) as AC man wanted over $700 ('13) which I had him do it, and quoted me $900 ('16). Maybe have the fact they both died in the middle of summer, LOL! I have electronic tech degree and my father is a certified electrician and AC tech so I called him up in FL and he gave me some pointers and here it goes; I DIY'd it, LMAO!! Replaced both motor and blower cage which was a stamped POS that separated so I spent extra and purchased one that was tack welded to the tune of $380. No problems since!
We have the units checked every spring and I clean the compressors unit coils myself. Being a son of an Army vet and myself an ex-Navy squid, preventative maintenance is in my blood. It has literally saved us thousands of dollars.
I would sure like to see how the new shop/show room is doing.
I have a 2009 goodman still running strong. had to replace capicator once other than cleaning coils every spring, its flawless
Protecting the customer’s interests. Excellent!
The Goodman heat pump installed in our home lasted 9 years. A total piece of junk. We spent several thousand dollars in repairs over and above the annual service visits during the 9 years. All of my neighbors with Goodman heat pumps had similar problems and replaced with different brands. Life spans of the Goodman units were 7 to 12 years; all were new construction installation. I won’t have a Goodman unit ever again.
That hose spray handle you use is available at any garden center, it is a Gilmore with a quick connect part, and a plastic cover. I use it on all my coil cleaning jobs. Best handle there is.
Goodmans "selling like hotcakes",, "i'll have an orange juice, an order of Goodmans, and a coffee" please.
Ted you do great work!
Ted, I love your approach and your logical methods. Thank you!
Exact same unit I have in a 4 ton. Past 2 years I’ve had to charge it when spring comes around. Compressor started squealing last year from higher head pressure when it’s real hot outside. Yeah I’m pushing as long as I can, but you could eat off the coils. 🤣🤣
Coustomer Relations and Reputation go hand in hand. Thanks Ted.
I love my Goodman! 18seer and easy to work on if I need to. so far only a Run Cap replacement.
I agree with everything you said and did Ted. I appreciate the way you run your business.
Your coil cleaner looks like you bought from Toys R Us 😂😜 good job brotha
Are we taking bets on how long until the capacitor call-back?
I have installed AC/Furnaces for 40 plus years , Just my observation , I noticed the dryer vent is next to condenser may suck lint right into outdoor unit ,it may need to be moves ,I hope this helps,Dave
You put the dryer vent cover back on upside down 😁
Nice a new Video Ted keep the good work love ya videos
Dude, why didn't you get those leaves out and clean the drain holds out? Standing water inside your unit can't be good for it.
I'd have used my hands and removed those leaves before the water was used. What, two minutes of work?
We have an old tan (which has faded to gray) Janitrol branded Goodman. We are getting it replaced on Monday. It’s leaking pretty bad and needs to be recharged often now, and we are also getting the furnace replaced with it. The air coming out of the vents is very weak.