I travelled on this just after the war with my family. My Dad was in the navy during the war on corvettes protecting the convoys. Later he was seconded to an armed merchantmen, He was on radar. As we travelled on the railway we came to Canada Dock I believe. We were really surprised to see the ship he had been on docked there now in its white peacetime colours. This ship was the SS Arawa of the Shaw Saville line from New Zealand! I’m 84 now!
My grandfather and uncle were merchant seamen working on the convoys , perhaps your father escorted them ? All brave souls RIP TO ALL AND THE OVERHEAD what a loss😥
In 1954 I went on a trip organised by our school (Manchester Road County Primary if anyone knows it). Starting at Manchester Docks we embarked on a boat called the Egremont and travelled up the Manchester Ship Canal to Liverpool. We disembarked and were shepherded on to the overhead railway. This took us along the line and at some point (can't recall detail) we got off and caught a main line train back to Manchester. The whole trip cost the princely sum of 13/6 which is approximately 67 pence in today's money! A memorable and treasured memory. Sad to hear of its demise.
I learned of the existence of the overhead line only a couple of years ago and had seen nothing of it. This video is wonderful. It's such a shame that it was forced to close. It was spectacular. Thank you.
I vividly remember my father taking me on the overhead railway in the late 40’s or early 50’s. The memories of that day have never left me. There were sights that as a small boy simply amazed me. A brand new steam locomotive being hauled onto a ship, for delivery goodness knows where. Countless ships being loaded and unloaded, and a view of a huge railway siding filled with large WD locomotives, presumably surplus after the war. We lived on the North Wales coast so everything was extraordinary and special on that day. I regret never going back.
wow! I had no idea this had even existed. incredible. the footage looks like it could be Chicago until you see the three graces.. another fascinating video.. thank you :)
My Dad used to talk about this all the time, such a shame. It would be great to see it make a comeback. Imagine the lower congestion, better air quality, less stress of getting around the city. Tourists would love it, school trips to teach the kids about the city's history, the views would be fabulous.
Typically a great way to pay the people of Liverpool for their suffering in the ww2 ,not investing in the dockers railway , And then letting a part of Britain's industrial heritage rust to bits,
My dad used to travel on this when he was young he said it was fantastic. Liverpool city council have committed so many crimes pulling down fantastic buildings over the years.
I became aware of the Liverpool Overhead Railway in the 1980s while at school and remember feeling a huge sense of sadness when I realised what we had lost. Unfortunately, it was not part of nationalisation in 1948 and the need for repairs arose at a time when the city was turning its back on the older dock estate and cars were seen as the future, which the author notes in his commentary.. It would be a great asset now and having seen Overhead railways in Berlin and Paris, you can see how useful they are. There is a decent cycle route from the Albert Dock/Pier Head area and if you have a plan of the route from on line or a book, you can get a good idea of how it fitted into the locations along the North docks. Its a bit more fiddly along the south docks to dingle, but a bike is a good way of exploring the route and brings old photos to life. Great film!
This is a splendid video, Ollie. To think that this overhead railway system got demolished was sacrilege. So advanced for it's time, it' would have most certainly become a real tourist attraction these days, without a doubt. Manty thanks for this showing.
I believe the Liverpool Overhead Railway, gave Chicago and NYC their ideas for elevated railways. I've ridden on both of them, and the construction seems to be very similar with cast iron sections under the tracks.
theirs had even pre-dated Liverpool's though; the LOR's claim is the 1st el to be designed for electric traction, narily necessitating any retrofitting either
I visited the waterfront museum and the re developed dock area, only one word Liverpool, fantastic. There is a small but very interesting overhead railway display including a full size railway car which you can sit in on a section of the overhead ironwork in the museum. There is so much to see and do in our Country. Switch the telly off for a month and get out and about a bit.
I was born and lived in Seaforth for the first few years of my life. I still remember being taken on a few occasions on the Overhead Railway to visit my Uncle Bill and his son Ted, who lived above the Herculaneum Dock in Dingle. My brother and I got to view the activity in the whole length of the Liverpool docks on that journey. It is a major memory of my childhood. It was great to see this video that reminded me of that time.
As always Americans visiting Liverpool and wirral took ideas home with them like Birkenhead Park few years later Central Park then they spotted overhead railways few years later Newyorks overhead appears 🤔
I left school in 1956 and worked in a goods rail station in Birkenhead. Had to take some documents to Waterloo station, Liverpool. Probably September in that year, just before it closed. The 1951 Ealing comedy ‘The Magnet’ starring eleven year old James Fox has a sequence on the overhead railway.
I’m a scouser through and through, and honestly, This is a fantastic video! I do wonder though, if the LOR survived - Maybe it would’ve became part of the Merseyrail network? Maybe it would’ve been extended? Who knows really, but it’s interesting to think about.
Thank you so much. On a TV show last week there was a reference to this railway. It lasted just a few minutes or so. To watch and listen to the social history and sad decline of it is just great. Thank you for your time and effort producing this wonderful video. Thanks and take care.
I went on it a couple of times when I was a child. Once to drop my uncle off to board the ship he was sailing on and once the full length just for the experience. Fabulous memories.
My late grandfather shared his memories of the LOR with me. I was born too late and love to have travelled the line. I visited Liverpool One museum just to see the surviving car no: 3 which you can sit in and i imagined being a passenger travelling the route. I thought I should point out that though you mentioned the dacaying of the structure was down to age and war damage, a video that I watched states that as it was constructed over the steam operated harbour railway, the smoke from their locomotives contributed towards rust and decay.
Fantastic well-made video about something I knew nothing about despite being a rail enthusiast from nearby Stoke on Trent. I loved the melancholy music and wondered if The Beatles must have used this railway as children? Thanks for making this excellent mini-documentary. 🙂
If you ever get to Liverpool, go to the Museum of Liverpool by the Albert Dock as they have recreated a section of the overhead railway and have an original Motor-coach (No.3) sitting on top which you can go into and have a seat inside of , along with a few displays about the L.O.R. It's been a while since I've been there myself (and I live in Liverpool) but from memory, they also have a steam locomotive (Lion, built in 1838) along with other rail related items.
Thank you for putting this on You Tube, I am in my eighth decade, & live in Greater Manchester, and I don't recall ever hearing of this mode of transport on Mersey Side. Local History is one of my hang ups. And anything to do with the Industrial revolution era. researching this subject can not have been easy, and I commend your huge effort in making such an interesting video, about something that is no longer with us. Thanks again, I am still going through your back archive, with interest. B.
As a 19 year old I used the overhead to take cotton samples from the North docks usually West Hornby or Canada Docks as far as the Pierhead after every ship unloaded the cotton cargo.
Went on the overhead back in the mid 1950s on a school trip, Empress of Canada listing in dock after a fire. Then followed by a river trip on the Royal Iris I think, bright yellow and very curvaceous. Happy days.
Thanks for that Ollie, another piece of history I knew nothing about ...until now! Have to say, your production skills are fantastic. The editing, script, and background music fit together seamlessly. I know from experience how much time and effort goes into achieving the end result I've just enjoyed. Hope you're enjoying the extra day's off this weekend mate....cheers!
Aw cheers Mike. The editing and script come easy but I always have trouble with the music. I'm spoilt for choice most of the time and I'm not very decisive at the best of times!
Knew about this as my late father grew up in Liverpool and he told me about it ..... riding it down the docks and liner row ...must have been some place back in the day ...never knew it was the world's first overhead electric railway though ...predating the iconic Chicago and New York systems... Brilliant and informative 👏 👍
Thank goodness people saw fit to take video clips and photos, otherwise we would never have been able to imagine what it looked like Thanks for posting.
This was superb. I only recently learned about this. I've worked on and off in Liverpool for over a decade and love the place. So rich in history. The people are awesome, so friendly and always up for a laugh👌🏻
That was brilliant, so very very interesting. Thank you for this as I had not known of this elevated railway in Liverpool. You videos do us such a great service. Cheers Well done.
Hamburg still has many overhead railways on its metro and I think Hamburg is very similar to Liverpool generally. So if you want a rough idea of what it would have been like I’d suggest that to be the city to go.
A fascinating account...so informative, nicely put together and a pleasure to watch and to learn. My knowledge had previously been limited to seeing an image of one of the posters in a railway book about 50 years ago. A gem of a video!
I moved from the UK to the USA in the early 1980s and they had a number of elevated rail sections in New York City. Locals called it the 'El' (for Elevated). I'm not sure if they are still there or not.
We were up in the Museum at the weekend and apparently a decision was made back in the 50s to demolish it as it was going to cost £2 million then to refurbish the line. I agree though in that it was short sighted not to keep it running. What an amazing attraction it would be now and also useful for getting in and out of the city.
Liverpool had the first electric elevated Railway in the world. But NYC had the first el line in 1868 that ran by cable and was later replaced by a steam dummy locomotive. It was later rebuilt with 2 tracks and ran on Greenwich Street and 9th Avenue. Finally rebuilt again with 3 tracks and ended service in June 1940.
It was a huge dock, with numerous fuel storage rooms at the back running the whole width of the dock, which was fed by the River Mersey. After years of being left untouched after it was used as a car park for the Liverpool Garden Festival back in the 80's, it has been transformed. There are now apartments built on the land, and part of the old dock has been dug out and filled to make a water feature.
It had to be a wonder of the world. The first of it's kind. Had it been a building it would have been listed protected an preserved. But then this is the city that flattered the cavern and turned it into a car park.
Fascinating, as a self confessed anorak its to my shame that I never new that this existed. I wonder if it hadn't been demolished in the 50s if the gentrification, and for want of a better word the yuppification of the docks that began in the 1980s, would have started earlier in the 60s.
Maybe this could be rebuilt with more modern materials that last longer. With the need to reduce car dependency, and clean up the air in cities, a returned Liverpoool Overhead Railway would be more likely to be a success now, especially if it was built and run as part of the Merseyrail network. The central section would obviously attract tourists, as well as commuters, and they could extend eastwards, if they rebuilt this, extending into suburbs of Liverpool that do not yet have railways. Is the route still clear or have any buildings been constructed in the way of it?
Perhaps Liverpool CC should sue the German Government for replacement costs & reinstate the overhead railway...it would make a great tourist attraction!!
Belter well done on your research and info you have us. Your not even a local lad but it seemed you presented this with a bit of passion. Im only 40 so don't have any experience of it but would kill someone to have something similar back. I can't understand why someone hasn't done similar for tourists an that. Maybe in the future when the renovation of all the dockland areas.has been done someone might. I hope its in my lifetime tho. So jelous of me nan an that having been on it. Anyway thank you so much. Appreciated.
Am I right in thinking that, the tunnel at Dingle (shown in the video) was visible on the way into Liverpool Garden Festival? I’m sure I noticed it on the way in to the festival from the car park.
Yes...you are right...Dingle underground starion was the start or finish point depending on whether you travelled north or south...I remember travelling to work on it in the early fifties from Dingle Mount...alighting at Wapping....an old man's recollections....
I used to travel on this frequently with my uncle who was a tug boat captain, it was fantastic and went underground at the Dingle, I was told it’s demise was because of the steam engines that travelled underneath it gave off steam which damaged the metal supports which held up the overhead railway, I wish it was available now
I vaguely remember the removal of the road bridge of the Aintree extension at Seaforth Sands station. Although the station buildings were long gone many Corporation bus services still terminated there and crew facilities in a building across the road survived for a number of years.
My father was part of the team from John Summer's steel works at Shotton who cut it up for melting in the steelworks furnaces. He said it was a terrible job as the steel was covered in grease and oil wihich burned and gave off huge amounts of smoke.
Great vid, the sad thing is that it started corroding quickly from day one due to the smaller steam shunting engines that ran underneath the structure on a lot of the north docks
My mother worked in the ticket office in 1954 at WAPPING STATION, I have a photo of her at the exit gate in her uniform , RIP MUM xxx
I travelled on this just after the war with my family. My Dad was in the navy during the war on corvettes protecting the convoys. Later he was seconded to an armed merchantmen, He was on radar. As we travelled on the railway we came to Canada Dock I believe. We were really surprised to see the ship he had been on docked there now in its white peacetime colours. This ship was the SS Arawa of the Shaw Saville line from New Zealand! I’m 84 now!
My grandfather and uncle were merchant seamen working on the convoys , perhaps your father escorted them ? All brave souls RIP TO ALL AND THE OVERHEAD what a loss😥
In 1954 I went on a trip organised by our school (Manchester Road County Primary if anyone knows it). Starting at Manchester Docks we embarked on a boat called the Egremont and travelled up the Manchester Ship Canal to Liverpool. We disembarked and were shepherded on to the overhead railway. This took us along the line and at some point (can't recall detail) we got off and caught a main line train back to Manchester. The whole trip cost the princely sum of 13/6 which is approximately 67 pence in today's money! A memorable and treasured memory. Sad to hear of its demise.
I learned of the existence of the overhead line only a couple of years ago and had seen nothing of it. This video is wonderful. It's such a shame that it was forced to close. It was spectacular. Thank you.
Yeah me too. I only heard of it a few years ago. Such a shame its gone.
@@BeeHereNowuk was it called Dockers Umbrella 🌂
@@irenedavo3768 aye, it was~
I vividly remember my father taking me on the overhead railway in the late 40’s or early 50’s. The memories of that day have never left me. There were sights that as a small boy simply amazed me. A brand new steam locomotive being hauled onto a ship, for delivery goodness knows where. Countless ships being loaded and unloaded, and a view of a huge railway siding filled with large WD locomotives, presumably surplus after the war. We lived on the North Wales coast so everything was extraordinary and special on that day. I regret never going back.
wow! I had no idea this had even existed. incredible. the footage looks like it could be Chicago until you see the three graces.. another fascinating video.. thank you :)
Cheers thank you!
My Dad used to talk about this all the time, such a shame. It would be great to see it make a comeback. Imagine the lower congestion, better air quality, less stress of getting around the city. Tourists would love it, school trips to teach the kids about the city's history, the views would be fabulous.
Typically a great way to pay the people of Liverpool for their suffering in the ww2 ,not investing in the dockers railway , And then letting a part of Britain's industrial heritage rust to bits,
My dad used to travel on this when he was young he said it was fantastic.
Liverpool city council have committed so many crimes pulling down fantastic buildings over the years.
I became aware of the Liverpool Overhead Railway in the 1980s while at school and remember feeling a huge sense of sadness when I realised what we had lost.
Unfortunately, it was not part of nationalisation in 1948 and the need for repairs arose at a time when the city was turning its back on the older dock estate and cars were seen as the future, which the author notes in his commentary..
It would be a great asset now and having seen Overhead railways in Berlin and Paris, you can see how useful they are.
There is a decent cycle route from the Albert Dock/Pier Head area and if you have a plan of the route from on line or a book, you can get a good idea of how it fitted into the locations along the North docks. Its a bit more fiddly along the south docks to dingle, but a bike is a good way of exploring the route and brings old photos to life. Great film!
Never seen moving pictures off this ,belting ,love the then and now shots .
This is a splendid video, Ollie. To think that this overhead railway system got demolished was sacrilege. So advanced for it's time, it' would have most certainly become a real tourist attraction these days, without a doubt. Manty thanks for this showing.
I believe the Liverpool Overhead Railway, gave Chicago and NYC their ideas for elevated railways. I've ridden on both of them, and the construction seems to be very similar with cast iron sections under the tracks.
theirs had even pre-dated Liverpool's though; the LOR's claim is the 1st el to be designed for electric traction, narily necessitating any retrofitting either
The French Connection.
I visited the waterfront museum and the re developed dock area, only one word Liverpool, fantastic. There is a small but very interesting overhead railway display including a full size railway car which you can sit in on a section of the overhead ironwork in the museum. There is so much to see and do in our Country. Switch the telly off for a month and get out and about a bit.
My Nain (Welsh Grandmother) told me about “The Dockers’ Umbrella” from when she worked in service in the city as a young woman.
I was born and lived in Seaforth for the first few years of my life. I still remember being taken on a few occasions on the Overhead Railway to visit my Uncle Bill and his son Ted, who lived above the Herculaneum Dock in Dingle. My brother and I got to view the activity in the whole length of the Liverpool docks on that journey. It is a major memory of my childhood. It was great to see this video that reminded me of that time.
Cars have so much to answer for with respect to the loss of human infrastructure serving human spaces.
It looks a bit like the trains in New York. Amazing footage and very interesting information. Ta 😉
As always Americans visiting Liverpool and wirral took ideas home with them like Birkenhead Park few years later Central Park then they spotted overhead railways few years later Newyorks overhead appears 🤔
Wow enjoyed that. I had no idea Liverpool once had an overhead railway. It's amazing what we lose for so called progress!
I have childhood memories of the Overhead Railway from visits to my Grandparents, who lived in Liverpool. I was delighted to come across this video.
Also know as "The Dockers Umbrella" as my Uncle George told me as a kid! Great video.
I left school in 1956 and worked in a goods rail station in Birkenhead. Had to take some documents to Waterloo station, Liverpool. Probably September in that year, just before it closed. The 1951 Ealing comedy ‘The Magnet’ starring eleven year old James Fox has a sequence on the overhead railway.
Liverpool had so many first its unbelievable 👍🏻
...and us Scousers are rewarded for that with poverty and austerity.
@@caramelldansen2204 and a great sense of humour and groundedness (if that’s a word)
I’m a scouser through and through, and honestly, This is a fantastic video! I do wonder though, if the LOR survived - Maybe it would’ve became part of the Merseyrail network? Maybe it would’ve been extended? Who knows really, but it’s interesting to think about.
Wow, didn't know it was there. Fantastic video.😎
Thank you so much. On a TV show last week there was a reference to this railway. It lasted just a few minutes or so. To watch and listen to the social history and sad decline of it is just great. Thank you for your time and effort producing this wonderful video. Thanks and take care.
I went on it a couple of times when I was a child. Once to drop my uncle off to board the ship he was sailing on and once the full length just for the experience. Fabulous memories.
This is a fantastic documentary, excellently presented with superb archive photos and films. Good choice of music too. Many thanks!
superb video - great archival videos - thanks for sharing
A gem of a railway such a shame to lose it.
Excellent. This subject fascinates me being a frequent visitor to Liverpool.
Great video, i hope sometime in the future it will be rebuilt and brought back, even just as a tourist attraction.
My late grandfather shared his memories of the LOR with me. I was born too late and love to have travelled the line. I visited Liverpool One museum just to see the surviving car no: 3 which you can sit in and i imagined being a passenger travelling the route.
I thought I should point out that though you mentioned the dacaying of the structure was down to age and war damage, a video that I watched states that as it was constructed over the steam operated harbour railway, the smoke from their locomotives contributed towards rust and decay.
Fantastic well-made video about something I knew nothing about despite being a rail enthusiast from nearby Stoke on Trent. I loved the melancholy music and wondered if The Beatles must have used this railway as children? Thanks for making this excellent mini-documentary. 🙂
If you ever get to Liverpool, go to the Museum of Liverpool by the Albert Dock as they have recreated a section of the overhead railway and have an original Motor-coach (No.3) sitting on top which you can go into and have a seat inside of , along with a few displays about the L.O.R. It's been a while since I've been there myself (and I live in Liverpool) but from memory, they also have a steam locomotive (Lion, built in 1838) along with other rail related items.
Wonderfully evocative footage of this - to me anyway - previously unknown ‘EL’. Thanks for posting!
Thank you for putting this on You Tube, I am in my eighth decade, & live in Greater Manchester, and I don't recall ever hearing of this mode of transport on Mersey Side. Local History is one of my hang ups. And anything to do with the Industrial revolution era. researching this subject can not have been easy, and I commend your huge effort in making such an interesting video, about something that is no longer with us. Thanks again, I am still going through your back archive, with interest. B.
As a 19 year old I used the overhead to take cotton samples from the North docks usually West Hornby or Canada Docks as far as the Pierhead after every ship unloaded the cotton cargo.
Wow! When was that?
Went on the overhead back in the mid 1950s on a school trip, Empress of Canada listing in dock after a fire. Then followed by a river trip on the Royal Iris I think, bright yellow and very curvaceous. Happy days.
Thanks for that Ollie, another piece of history I knew nothing about ...until now! Have to say, your production skills are fantastic. The editing, script, and background music fit together seamlessly. I know from experience how much time and effort goes into achieving the end result I've just enjoyed. Hope you're enjoying the extra day's off this weekend mate....cheers!
Aw cheers Mike. The editing and script come easy but I always have trouble with the music. I'm spoilt for choice most of the time and I'm not very decisive at the best of times!
Knew about this as my late father grew up in Liverpool and he told me about it ..... riding it down the docks and liner row ...must have been some place back in the day ...never knew it was the world's first overhead electric railway though ...predating the iconic Chicago and New York systems...
Brilliant and informative 👏 👍
Thank goodness people saw fit to take video clips and photos, otherwise we would never have been able to imagine what it looked like Thanks for posting.
This was superb. I only recently learned about this. I've worked on and off in Liverpool for over a decade and love the place. So rich in history. The people are awesome, so friendly and always up for a laugh👌🏻
Absolutely. Totally agree with you there. It's such a friendly place! I love Liverpool
@@BeeHereNowuk You wouldn't be saying that if you lived there.
The dockers umbrella 😊
That was brilliant, so very very interesting. Thank you for this as I had not known of this elevated railway in Liverpool. You videos do us such a great service. Cheers Well done.
Cheers thank you!
Wonderful footage; well-presented.👍
Very well explained and informative, thanks!
My grandfather worked at Liverpool docks in the 50's and always referred to it as the 'dockers umbrella' 😁. Great video.
That is the comment that I was looking for. My grandad used that same name.
If anyone is ever in Liverpool, the spoons in line Street station has some old posters about the overhead rail framed and hung up on the walls.
Hamburg still has many overhead railways on its metro and I think Hamburg is very similar to Liverpool generally. So if you want a rough idea of what it would have been like I’d suggest that to be the city to go.
I visited Hamburg once and thought of the LOR once I saw it's rail system
Great video again. The Dingle tunnel mystery... Always wondered where it ended up! 👍🏻
Thanks for an interesting video
Well i never . Brilliantly presented as usual. Thanks .
Thank you!
I travelled on it with my grandmother when I was about 4yrs old. A lovely memory :)
A fascinating account...so informative, nicely put together and a pleasure to watch and to learn. My knowledge had previously been limited to seeing an image of one of the posters in a railway book about 50 years ago. A gem of a video!
Top quality as usual!
Another great video, brought to life by the footage and the photo! I never knew this existed. Thanks.
I moved from the UK to the USA in the early 1980s and they had a number of elevated rail sections in New York City. Locals called it the 'El' (for Elevated). I'm not sure if they are still there or not.
You would see them in US shows, some car weaving in and out.
Now a tourist attraction, an interesting walk with bars and restaurants!
The "El",was based on,and inspired by Liverpool's Overhead Railway.
Many of the NYC subway are still elevated.Lot in the borough of Brooklyn.I rode it last month.
El is still an important part of Chicago transport infrastructure.
Amazing amount of research and fantastic photographs
We were up in the Museum at the weekend and apparently a decision was made back in the 50s to demolish it as it was going to cost £2 million then to refurbish the line. I agree though in that it was short sighted not to keep it running. What an amazing attraction it would be now and also useful for getting in and out of the city.
Liverpool had the first electric elevated Railway in the world. But NYC had the first el line in 1868 that ran by cable and was later replaced by a steam dummy locomotive. It was later rebuilt with 2 tracks and ran on Greenwich Street and 9th Avenue. Finally rebuilt again with 3 tracks and ended service in June 1940.
Yeah absolutely. I'd have loved to have seen the nyc line in its heyday!
Nice one. I've always seen the exhibition at the Museum of Liverpool, but it's hard to imagine it was ever actually there.
"Herculaneum Dock". What a magnificent name.
It was a huge dock, with numerous fuel storage rooms at the back running the whole width of the dock, which was fed by the River Mersey.
After years of being left untouched after it was used as a car park for the Liverpool Garden Festival back in the 80's, it has been transformed. There are now apartments built on the land, and part of the old dock has been dug out and filled to make a water feature.
It had to be a wonder of the world. The first of it's kind. Had it been a building it would have been listed protected an preserved.
But then this is the city that flattered the cavern and turned it into a car park.
Very cool bit of industrial history. Never heard of it before. Thank you.
Fantastic video many thanks 👍
A fantastic informative video 👏🏻👏🏻. Great seeing these old images and learning the history from you. Thank you for educating us. 🙏🏻
Never knew this existed. Bit like telling kids about trolley buses.
Greatest loss to our city.
Showing my age used to live quarter of a mile from it, went on it numerous times.
Lovely and informative video! Thnaks
I love seeing old footage like this. Thanks! ❤️
How forward thinking were they to use electric back then!
Beautifully told story. Great historic footage and photos. Thanks.
Thank you!
Thanks for this piece of unique history..
glorious tribute with priceless imagery, wow...now I've a pair of superbly fantastic screenshots 🍺
Fascinating, as a self confessed anorak its to my shame that I never new that this existed. I wonder if it hadn't been demolished in the 50s if the gentrification, and for want of a better word the yuppification of the docks that began in the 1980s, would have started earlier in the 60s.
Maybe this could be rebuilt with more modern materials that last longer.
With the need to reduce car dependency, and clean up the air in cities, a returned Liverpoool Overhead Railway would be more likely to be a success now, especially if it was built and run as part of the Merseyrail network.
The central section would obviously attract tourists, as well as commuters, and they could extend eastwards, if they rebuilt this, extending into suburbs of Liverpool that do not yet have railways.
Is the route still clear or have any buildings been constructed in the way of it?
I knew about it , but whow..well done mate 👍👍👍👍
👍 brilliant video
Getting rid of the trams was a mistake also😟
They knocked this down and built Cantril Farm ...wtf
Fantastic film. They could do with that railway nowadays!
Perhaps Liverpool CC should sue the German Government for replacement costs & reinstate the overhead railway...it would make a great tourist attraction!!
Did the UK government ever pay Hamburg and Berlin for their overhead rail and subways that had to be rebuilt after being damaged by the RAF? 🤔
fascinating - thank you for sharing this
Belter well done on your research and info you have us. Your not even a local lad but it seemed you presented this with a bit of passion. Im only 40 so don't have any experience of it but would kill someone to have something similar back. I can't understand why someone hasn't done similar for tourists an that. Maybe in the future when the renovation of all the dockland areas.has been done someone might. I hope its in my lifetime tho. So jelous of me nan an that having been on it. Anyway thank you so much. Appreciated.
Cheers thank you!
Am I right in thinking that, the tunnel at Dingle (shown in the video) was visible on the way into Liverpool Garden Festival? I’m sure I noticed it on the way in to the festival from the car park.
Yes...you are right...Dingle underground starion was the start or finish point depending on whether you travelled north or south...I remember travelling to work on it in the early fifties from Dingle Mount...alighting at Wapping....an old man's recollections....
I used to travel on this frequently with my uncle who was a tug boat captain, it was fantastic and went underground at the Dingle, I was told it’s demise was because of the steam engines that travelled underneath it gave off steam which damaged the metal supports which held up the overhead railway, I wish it was available now
What a pity this would have been great for travel to Everton stadium at Bramley Moor dock - site of old generator !
Great video and neat footage. I enjoy your Lancastrian based videos as it helps me get my Lancastrian fix here in Texas.
Haha glad to help.
I vaguely remember the removal of the road bridge of the Aintree extension at Seaforth Sands station. Although the station buildings were long gone many Corporation bus services still terminated there and crew facilities in a building across the road survived for a number of years.
Well, something I never knew, thank you for the upload 😎 excellent vid
Cheers thank you
Thanks for the old historic views of the railway, and the history. All those pubs on the Dock road, one on every corner, they survived a bit longer.
The Dockers ' Umbrella. Quality Vid lad. 👍👍
My father was part of the team from John Summer's steel works at Shotton who cut it up for melting in the steelworks furnaces. He said it was a terrible job as the steel was covered in grease and oil wihich burned and gave off huge amounts of smoke.
Never been to Liverpool, but I wish this still existed
Learn something new everyday. Your narration and archival images and film used really told a great story. Keep history alive.....
Cheers Mike. Glad you liked it.
Great video.
Great vid, the sad thing is that it started corroding quickly from day one due to the smaller steam shunting engines that ran underneath the structure on a lot of the north docks
And thanks for sharing those Liverpool memories.
It’s crazy they let this go! Great video oli
Thank you very much, whoever you are 😂
Fantastic video