Learning to Trad Climb: Part 5 - How to abseil/rappel

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  • Follow DMM Graphic Designer Clare on her journey as she learns the Tools of the Trad with AMI instructor Alice Kerr.
    In Part 5 of this series, Alice shows Clare how to abseil/rappel from the top of a crag.
    Untying ropes safely: 0:00
    Threading an in-situ maillon: 1:20
    Knots in the ends of the rope: 2:47
    Throwing ropes off the edge: 3:25
    Using lanyards: 4:38
    Tying a prusik loop: 5:49
    Safely unclipping a lanyard: 6:22
    Correct stance: 8:32
    Clare rappels/abseils: 9:10
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  • @ericvallespi8233
    @ericvallespi8233 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What an amazing series! Very well filmed, edited and everything is explained in a super clear way!!! (and the place looks fantastic)
    Congrats to all the people involved in this project!
    Really enjoying every episode. Keep them coming ;D

  • @wojciechkotas4452
    @wojciechkotas4452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the movie, thanks Alice. It might be worthy to inform that the recommended (and used) prusik knot is "French Autoblocker".

  • @IsuckYoungBlood
    @IsuckYoungBlood ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video! Clearly and nicely explained.

  • @smurf9857
    @smurf9857 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent series!

  • @rara58524
    @rara58524 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As a beginner at first I got the impression from my instructors that rappelling is like the easiest safest part of climbing. Later I learned that actually the majority of climbing accidents happen on rappel. I've had one small accident myself - when I didn't judge the slope direction properly, so I ended up rappelling to the side of the anchor, rather than straight below it. Eventually my feet lost friction and I got violently pendulumed across and smashed into the opposing corner wall. Super silly mistake in hindsight but please do always check that your route of rappelling is actually straight below your anchor and not to the side of it, forming a longer and longer pendulum.

  • @deinie2606
    @deinie2606 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    a nice trick is to clip the end of the lanyard to the rope you want to pull at the end to save having to remember

    • @matsr_2279
      @matsr_2279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I like that one as well

    • @peteryoung9772
      @peteryoung9772 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      These videos are excellent! Another little trick is to install the prussik on the rope first before doing the belay device. You can then pull some rope through and it will hold the weight of it and give you some slack making it easier to load the device and less chance of a fumble/drop.

  • @annemetteeskildsen6651
    @annemetteeskildsen6651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a great and well explained video! Thank you

  • @sergioroman7862
    @sergioroman7862 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice work Alice , thumbs up

  • @rafaelgomez1284
    @rafaelgomez1284 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very pedagogical lesson, whith a factual rappel. The main rason is tech safety, not only promote gear. That is fair for leanr how to proceed in the mpuntain.

  • @kaspareevald2264
    @kaspareevald2264 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Good work!

  • @peterbutcher4848
    @peterbutcher4848 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent series, all the needs to know with a sprinkling of nice to know. Btw remember to reapply the sunscreen

  • @tjb8841
    @tjb8841 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you explain why you had the student untie first, instructor untied and threaded her ends through the anchor? As you mentioned, you don’t want to drop your rope, so I would usually want to thread the ropes through the anchor before the other person untied.
    Am I missing an advantage to this order?

  • @edmundravagotv171
    @edmundravagotv171 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @quickdraw30
    @quickdraw30 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice

  • @TSchulzeMasterClimb
    @TSchulzeMasterClimb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Obrigado por compartilhar! Saudações de Brasil.
    Eu faço e recomendo: antes de procedimentos com corda (retirar corda de harness), prender a corda em algum lugar. Aqui, em vídeo, estamos tranquilos. Depois de uma atividade cansativa, onde estaremos desatentos, podemos - sem querer - deixar a corda cair. E teremos uma situação critica ou/e desesperadora.

  • @llovebeats3749
    @llovebeats3749 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So how do i get down the anchor after im done rappelling down?

    • @grimlund
      @grimlund 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You dont. Thats why bolted belay stations is to prefer.
      Sometimes you must build a station using your own gear.
      Then you must leave gear on the mountain.
      Its actually more common then people might think.

    • @rorybaker3376
      @rorybaker3376 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could you also make the mid section of the rope at the top simply go around tree or fixed loop and then you leave nothing behind

  • @atvairmax
    @atvairmax ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do you do this when there is no anchor or bolts at the top? You just have to leave gear behind?

    • @acidduk
      @acidduk ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tying a loop of accessory cord (aka "tat") round the biggest rock you can find seems a fairly common practice in that case, and that is left behind.

    • @huwcunningham7812
      @huwcunningham7812 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Often at popular crags there will be 'tat' (usually a loop or two of accessory cord approx 8mm) and a maillon left in place for all to use, it's always checked by the climbers and often replaced by your own kit. This is usually wrapped around a solid feature (think massive boulders).
      Climbers will often carry tat and a few maillons to avoid having to leave your own expensive gear. This is left for the next person to use or for your own retrieval at a later date.
      I carry around 5 meters of tat cord to make abseil stations and a few abseil rings/maillons.

    • @jr.6199
      @jr.6199 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What alternatives do you like, instead of having newbies hold the prusik down with one hand, since people tend to clench and pull in, during a panic, leaving a prusik less effective. Also a prusik after a load is difficult to loosen.

    • @acidduk
      @acidduk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A french prusik should be easy to unlock even when loaded. If you clench the prusic and pull in, surely you are, by extension, clenching the rope, so that should keep the braking action via the ATC? If you are doing a stacked abseil as in this video, the more experienced person is going to be at the bottom already and can give the second abseiler a firemans belay if necessary too.

    • @mattbaker1683
      @mattbaker1683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acidduk the fireman's belay is fine for short stuff but causes inconsistencies when trying to abseil, sure it's useful, but can lead to miscommunication, for example, abseiling person stops because (unknowingly) fireman has them, next they both let off and abseiling person becomes freefalling person! I actually had a fireman do a fireman's belay because my rope was a bit short by a metre or 2, and what a faff it was. I had to ask him to let go because I couldn't move, but I had to grip really hard when he let go.

  • @ralphmunn1685
    @ralphmunn1685 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That "Prusik" is actually a Penberthy; it performs the same function as a prusik, but is easier to tie with one hand, easier to untie and can be formed from thicker cord, reducing the [small] chance of burn-through. And yes, "prusik" has long been in use for friction knots in general, but it's useful to understand the differences between them.

    • @mattbaker1683
      @mattbaker1683 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A what?! It's a French prusik to me! Not entirely how I'd do it but that's generally because I use a sewn one (Beal jammy) or a single stranded one to eliminate the twists, both of which are easy to show but hard to explain. I'd also tie the friction hitch first to give slack for loading the rope(s) and to prove the hitch. I'm happy to stand corrected though. I have honestly never heard that name in any video or book, British or US.

    • @bloodink9508
      @bloodink9508 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mattbaker1683 in climbing we tend to think the word ‘prusik’ is the word for ‘friction thingy that keeps me from falling’ on a rappel. Nothing wrong with this, but prusik is the name of a specifically formed ‘knot’. The oc is simply informing that the particular formation shown here serves the function of a prusik but is not the actual formation a person identifying knots in rope work would call a prusik. There are a handful of methods which perform this function, and are often called prusiks. Autoblock, penberthy, microtraction and so on. Just so happens one of them is actually called prusik both in function and in fact.

    • @sergioroman7862
      @sergioroman7862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think Ralph and Blood are being a little fancy/ pickie on the choice of words here , this video series is an introduction to trad , keep it simple guys , Nice work Alice Kerr

  • @thomasmira6306
    @thomasmira6306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That one is a prusik? it seems like a machard...

  • @student207
    @student207 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    :50 she should have secured the rope thru first then the other climber untie and drop ends, just in case.

  • @CuncunHadiantoLbbf
    @CuncunHadiantoLbbf ปีที่แล้ว

    Gunakan ikatan atau pengaman tali dobel supaya lebih aman, jika putus ada tali lain yg menopang

  • @rfcdgaf
    @rfcdgaf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Didn't the euro death knot get tied at 2:10 lol?

  • @adrian1990ts
    @adrian1990ts ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel it is quite Risky to untied your rope First without securing it with a knot or through an eye...
    Btw , the know you are using for rapel it is call Machard, not prusik!

  • @henkmenda
    @henkmenda 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    FYI knot used on rope is not prussik, its klemheist, very similiar to prussik, but its not the same and you shouldnt squeeze them with yourhand

    • @SaoirseStuff
      @SaoirseStuff 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's a french prusik, not a klemheist. They're friction hitches not knots. You are supposed to squeeze it, as shown.
      All these friction hitches are colloquially called prusiks

  • @mtndncer
    @mtndncer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Both of you are anchored into the rope, no hitches, just in one rope, not a safe anchor!! I'd recommend a hitch in the rope & backing up your anchor with another sling, cordelette or webbing. :)

  • @silviorussino3271
    @silviorussino3271 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's machard knot, not a prusik! Bye 😉

  • @ShailenSobhee
    @ShailenSobhee ปีที่แล้ว

    Need a PhD to understand all these steps well xD

  • @adamwojtyczka5748
    @adamwojtyczka5748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    overhand knot on the end of dropped ropes is BIG MISTAKE...never do that please

  • @tomvana4270
    @tomvana4270 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nose hardware is gross.

  • @causeitsthere
    @causeitsthere ปีที่แล้ว

    First take the rope and clove hitch or figure 8 to a biner so you don’t drop the rope. Then untie. A double figure 8 is the only rappel is the only rappel knot I used in 20 years. Take one rope and make a single figure 8, then take the other and feed it through the first figure 8 and complete the knot. This chick just showed you the famous eurodeath knot. Just yell rope twice. When you start saying to many words no one can understand you. Rappel, then yell up to your partner Off rappel. Most people prusik to their leg loop to avoid a junk show on your belay loop as the prusik is back up.

    • @jeffreyschmidt3997
      @jeffreyschmidt3997 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You make some good points here but edk can be tied safely and is easier to untie after loading. Look up reasons to avoid tying autoblock (not prussik) to your leg loop, as this is dangerous practice

    • @causeitsthere
      @causeitsthere ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffreyschmidt3997 I never autoblock.

    • @jeffreyschmidt3997
      @jeffreyschmidt3997 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@causeitsthere I'm not referring to what you do, I'm referring to what you said most people do. Prussik is not releasable under load, and so autoblock or another releasable friction hitch should be used. My points were related to not using leg loop and safety of edk when tied properly