BTR#56 Rickenbacker / Rose-Morris: The Legendary UK Export Models

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  • Here we have an original vintage 1960’s Rickenbacker, a 345S or 1998 UK export model.
    This beautiful guitar is the iconic instrument by definition of the “Beatlemania” and the “Beat explosion” or “British invasion” phenomena, during the glorious days of "The Swinging London".
    This instrument is perfect to introduce the story of the celebrated Rickenbacker / Rose-Morris UK export models from the 1960’s.
    It’s a strange tale that bounces back and forth across the Atlantic, a fascinating chunk of guitar history!
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    00:00 - An Iconic Guitar
    02:00 - Birth and evolution of the Rickenbacker Company
    04:00 - Roger Rossmeisl: Birth of the "Capri series"
    05:43 - John Lennon and V-81 325 Capri Model
    06:35 - Restyling and evolution of the "Capri series"
    09:25 - "Beatlemania" and agreement with Rose-Morris
    14:44 - Vintage 345S or 1998 UK export model: a close look
    20:00 - Pickups and circuit
    21:45 - Pete Townshend & The Who
    22:22 - The "Beatle backer"
    24:22 - From "Beat Explosion" to... Shaftesbury
    26:34 - Sounds, Vintage Reissues & More Stories
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  • @BobsToneReview
    @BobsToneReview  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This wonderful Vintage original 1967 Rickenbacker 345-S / 1998 Rose-Morris UK Export Model shown on video is for sale; check it out!
    reverb.com/item/79018221-1967-rickenbacker-345s-or-1998-rose-morris-uk-export-model-vintage-fireglo

  • @collinwhitley3543
    @collinwhitley3543 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good video, Bob! You covered this topic very well, I have a particular interest in these guitars as a collector of them (I also started a Facebook group dedicated to 1960s era Rose Morris Rickenbacker guitars). Just a few notes that hopefully add context (or corrections):
    It’s important to point out that the 325 had completely discontinued production after 1959 until the Rose Morris order was placed in Dec. 1963. While an F-shaped sound hole was standard on the 325 models (both in 1958-1959 and when reintroduced in 1964), the first two batches of Rose Morris 1996 models had a wider sound hole on a different position (called “two o’clock” position). This was changed by May 1964 to the more typical F-hole of the other hollow-body Rose Morris Rickenbacker models.
    11:17 - the 1995 is not a version of any guitar that George Harrison played (he had a 425 with an added pickup, while the 1995 is identical to the 615 model). They are both through-neck cresting wave bodies, but the 615 has the pickups surface-mounted like hollow-body Rickenbackers, while the 425 is more budget oriented and recesses the pickups into the body.
    12:55 - the “Made in USA” printed on the truss rod cover was primarily done to identify the country of origin for import reasons, not necessarily for the benefit of customers.
    14:11 - I used to own this guitar (the ‘65 Rose Morris 1993 12-string), built in February 1965 and exported to Australia. I currently own another example from this same batch. Only 100 of these guitars were made, in four batches of 25 across a 10-month period.
    23:30 - that particular guitar shown (1964 Rose Morris 1993) is refinished. The color is, and always was, Fireglo. No Rose Morris models were ever officially “Autumnglo” but there was a shipment of “red burst” 1997 and 1998 models made in early 1966 after Rose Morris requested a red model, but they were not popular.
    25:50 - it wasn’t that Rickenbacker was unable to fulfill Rose Morris orders quickly enough….they were unwilling to do so. This is obvious when looking at the overall production records from Electro String (which produced all Rickenbacker guitars). 1966 and 1967 were the factory’s biggest production years in that decade. They were simply prioritizing U.S. domestic production after previously prioritizing export shipments in 1964-1965.

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hello CollinWhitley, first of all thank you for chiming in! I'm really happy that you liked the video. Thank you so much for sharing your observations: they are a great basis for constructive and interesting confrontation. No doubt you are a great expert on this subject. Even so I can't agree with everything you say.
      1 - I know about the "2 o'clock Position F-Hole" on the early batches of the 1996 Model. A TH-cam video, is not inherently the best medium or instrument to convey such level of detail. Although my channel is committed to this kind of information, exceeding with too many technical details can make the video dull, long and tedious, especially for less involved audience. That's exactly the reason why at the end of the video, I invite the viewers to deepen the topic from other sources, for more comprehensive information.
      2 - Thank you, I meant that the 1995 is reminiscent of George Harrison's 425, I should have made it more clear.
      4 - Thank you, great information, congratulations on your amazing collection!
      5 - I think that " officially" is the point of what you say; I'm sure that both of us have seen plenty of vintage rarities that do not exist in official literature. It is worth noting that Martin Kelly's book reports that a number of "Autumnglo" guitars were actually shipped to Rose Morris. A collector friend of mine also had an original 1998.
      6 - "They were simply prioritizing U.S. domestic production" - Yes, I completely agree with that.
      Still I believe that they would have processed the orders from the British distributor on time if they could.

  • @raw_vegan1
    @raw_vegan1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I enjoyed this video very much. Top quality information. Thank you.

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much for your kind feedback Rawfooder, I'm happy you enjoyed!

  • @Caziolin
    @Caziolin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bellissimo reportage Bob!!!!!
    Giusto giusto mi chiedevo se mai saresti riuscito a portare una Rick sul canale!
    Che pezzo di storia!

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ha! Ha! Grazie Lorenzo, per fortuna ci siamo riusciti!!

  • @roughcutguitars
    @roughcutguitars 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bravo! Bravissimo! Very well done. Great focus on the RM line with just enough cultural/historical additions for context, and excellent editing.

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your nice words and kind feedback RoughCutGuitars! I'm really happy that you enjoyed! Please feel free to keep an eye on my channel :for more! )

  • @gianfrancobacco3437
    @gianfrancobacco3437 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bravo Bob!

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grazie caro Bacco! Forse passo a trovarti tra una decina di giorni... se mi vuoi : )

  • @meadowlarkfine4646
    @meadowlarkfine4646 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very good video, Bob. I didn't know any of this history. Thank you!
    As for the guitars themselves, I like the sound of Rickenbackers, but I just don't care for the look-except for the basses; those are pretty cool.

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for kind comment Meadowlarkfine, I'm happy that you liked the story!
      I'm with you: I love the 4001 (or 1999) bass, both for its cool look and for its great tone. When I hear a great bass tone in a live show, the bass player is often wielding a Rickenbacker bass (backed by a good Ampeg stack amp). As for Rickenbacker Capri guitars, I think they have high quality construction, classy elegance and good tone.

    • @roughcutguitars
      @roughcutguitars 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@BobsToneReview I love the deeper bodies of the Capri, but I never liked the 'f' sound hole - too traditional looking for the modern aesthetic of the body shape and lines. It MUST have the 'cat's eye'!

  • @davidecillo4693
    @davidecillo4693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🔥🔥

  • @Rick_Cleland
    @Rick_Cleland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good stuff, mate!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👌🏻

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for your kind feedback Rick! Please feel free to browse through the other content of the channel!

  • @chrisst8922
    @chrisst8922 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    9:34 Interesting that the agreement was signed so early, prior to the appearance of the Rickenbacker 12 string. At this point only John played Rickenbacker routinely, Harrison's 420 being used only for a short period.

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good point Chris. In fact, as you can see at 10:39, the 12 string model was not even included in the first run of instruments shown in the Rose Morris catalog; also only a few batches of these guitars were ever produced.

    • @chrisst8922
      @chrisst8922 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BobsToneReview Another point is the effect of RM importing the Shaftesbury brand. Today Rickenbacker are renown for protecting their intellectual property and I've often thought that this has its roots in this period.

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@chrisst8922 Chris, that makes absolutely sense. in fact I think that presenting maliciously the Shaftsbury copies with the same model codes of the originals, was definitely a deal breaker.

    • @chrisst8922
      @chrisst8922 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BobsToneReview The Shaftesbury guitars were played by The Rolling Stones briefly.
      I live near London and have visited Denmark Street many times. Whilst other shops appear slightly down at heel and have come and gone, Rose Morris's shop appears to be the nicest shop on the street. On display are pianos, acoustic guitars and music books, unless you knew you'd never associate them with something as cool as The Beatles. Then last year they displayed a brand new 4005XC and there was a poster proclaiming something to the effect that Rickenbacker was back after half a century.

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@chrisst8922 I didn't know the Stones played Shaftsbury; that souns funny if you consider that they had an endorsement from Gibson during the McCarty era! 🙂
      I've been several times in Denmark St. and the Rose Morris shop; that's quite an experience if you love guitars! I even bought an early reissue of Firebird back in the early 1990's, can't remember the name of the particular shop.

  • @tbeau6663
    @tbeau6663 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    💜💚🧡❤💙💛

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Tbeau, I'm happy you enjoyed!

  • @stefanhoock1917
    @stefanhoock1917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bob, may I please correct you regarding the following incorrect statements you made in this video? 🙂 You stated: "The first 325 production model ever built had serial number V81, where "V" stood for "vibrato" - this is unfortunately factually incorrect, as A. the first 325 ever built (in 1958) has serial number *V80* , and B. Rickenbacker guitars from that era that have a serial number starting with "V" are actually *short-scale* guitars, and the "V" of those guitars' serial numbers have *nothing* to do with a vibrato that was installed on these (many of these instruments did not even HAVE a vibrato installed...). Another thing that I would kindly like to point out is that John Lennon probably did NOT buy his Rickenbacker 325 at the end of 1960 at the Steinway Musikhaus in Hamburg, but at the *Rotthoff* music store in that city. Cheers and all the best. :-)

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Stefan! Of course my main concern is to spread historically correct information so any puntualization or correction is more than welcome. For the record, my main sources are several articles and Martin Kelly's Book "Out of the Frying Pan into the Fireglo", which is highly regarded as the ultimate Rickenbacker book. Nevertheless everything you say sounds absolutely dependable 😄so I have no doubt that you stand correct.
      I hope that you forgive my inaccuracies and enjoyed the video. 😄

  • @Caziolin
    @Caziolin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    P.s.: strano quel controllo,per te che sei un suonatore esperto,ti dà noia o una volta imparato è un gioco da ragazzi?

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ciao Lorenzo! Ti confesso che non ho mai suonato quella Rick "sul campo", con le mie band.... però una volta imparato "il trucco", non è complesso. Al contrario, è nato proprio per maggiore praticità: in alcuni casi può essere un'alternativa rapida all'uso del selettore.

  • @julianward5482
    @julianward5482 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice! Keep em coming Bro

    • @BobsToneReview
      @BobsToneReview  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your kind feedback Julian, see you soon!