Just turned 50 and only now this man comes into my view. I’m so happy to find recorded moments like this where his opinions can be heard and for me, respected, believed, understood & absorbed into my personal view of modern politics. The belief in humanity over profit, not education for jobs but to enhance personal identity & subsequent individual strengths. Never has anyone ‘spoke’ to me with such reverence, I’m genuinely happy to find another human who has - Even if it’s hope from the grave, hope none the less. Thank you Jim ❤️
My father was a soviet journalist, who works in London as a correspondent for "Izvestia" newspaper more than 4 years. He went to Glasgow and been there during all this events, visit one of strikes when Jimmy Reids spoke to workers and dockers. Then, together with scotish correspondent of Morning Star newspaper Arthur Milleghen he visited mister Reids home in Glasgow, saw his wife and three daughters. But most important thing, that he brought an invitation and air tickets Glasgo-London-Moscow to visit Soviet Union and have rest. Also it was a gift from soviet workers and unions. Great Jimmy Reid who struggle much for right of Scotland workers, mechanic, headman, municipal councilor, political committee member of communist Party of Great Britain, rector of Glasgow university, big worker man celebrated its 40th anniversary on Soviet land in 1972
"But although he believes change must come via the ballot box, he has no love for the parliamentary politics of today". That is exact how I feel and have felt since I was about 17. The first time I could vote was when I realized, regardless of the best intentions of most labour and left candidates i've voted for, bourgeois tinpot democracy is drastically inefficient and borderline oppressive. How the hell can one man or woman truly represent the will of tens of thousands of people on a national level? This disconnect between local action and national government shows just how inefficient the whole process is. And when the likes of clay cross councilors in the 70s and liverpool's in the 80s try and take these actions into their own hands they get labelled as subversive and dangerous when all they were trying to do is uphold the promises they kept when they got so much as a whiff of power! Britain is a truly decadent and corrupt society, at least in political terms and nobody cares for each other because that kind of attitude is dissuaded. It's a shitshow.
Brother, you just summed up the Scottish Indy movement in a nutshell, we suffered Thatcher and her ill's, we will NOT suffer it's like under the post Brexit UK Westminster, Scotland is already lost to it, it's now when, not if. But take heart, many of us up here are trying to save, what once the best of being British was, i.e. giving a shit about the next guy along, and at least trying to make our kids lives better than ours, radical ideas these days i know, but we Scots believe in a thing called society, and lastly, politics is alive and thriving up here, and will positively explode post Indy, to the betterment of us all.
@@jamesgraham4242 I'm going to vote to dissolve Union, and end the UK, and I'm not alone in having that very real aim. And all with a wee X on a ballot paper, that's dropped in a black box. Tick Tock
@@scottishbombolini7794 You had your chance in 2014 and you blew it. The Jimmy Reid of the 1970's would have had zero to do with you and your SNP/IndyRef. I was there. In West Dunbartonshire we had a 55% win on a 90% turnout. I was part of that and you Judas scum let me down. Now you've all gone full Russophobe and NATO Nazi lover and not a single communist amongst you. You couldn't run a bath never mind govern and run a communist country. All Trots and pseudo-socialists. You even voted to join NATO and the EU. Now we're really up shit creek without a paddle. A total sell out of the Scottish working class.
The tragedy of British industry in the twentieth century. Class divisions were such that the two sides spent most of their time fighting eachother and destroying the industries as a result.
? They didn't destroy it. The ruling class offshored it. That is what was happening here. They deindustrialisation of the West. Capital flight from West to East. Containerisation reduced transport costs to pennies.
A time when people had opinions, and spoke to their fellow men person to person not write like I am doing now most people will read this then watch Bugs Bunny
I think the sort of folk who are reading this still care about their fellow man and woman. The last thing they'll be looking for is bugs bunny. I do understand your point though. The modern generation is far too materialistic and the majority of them appear to have traded their humanity for personal possessions. As a shop steward for over forty years I remember the days of the 70's, the north of England suffered much the same fate under the Tories as Scotland. They wanted our tax revenue for bugger all in return. The qualities of Jimmy Reid are to be admired. Those who decried him then are the same soulless types that are proliferate today. We move away from Jimmy's beliefs at our own peril. The world is becoming more selfish, greedy and uncaring. In other words right wing. A great man ❤️
Not one of the workers he represented was forced to work for the shipyards. They signed on voluntarily. Those he vilified for "shoving pieces of paper around", could have lost everything - but they chose to gamble and took the risks. The labourers who made those boats were paid to do so. They could have made boats themselves - but they chose to take the safe option, for a regular wage. He put his own men on the scrap heap, by invoking perpetual strikes and making shipbuilding uneconomical. Now we buy ships from Korea, China, Japan and India. His union members ended up with zero. (Who would want to run a shipyard beset with workers continuously involved in "industrial action"?). He got rid of the Scots businessmen "shoving pieces of paper around" and handed it all to Asians instead - who treat their workers 1000 worse than any Scottish employer. I hope his union members felt the exercise was worthwhile, as they lined up in the unemployment queues. He ruined the Scottish shipbuilding industry due to his jealousy of rich people. Socialism and communism tears the heart out of human drive and initiative. People like Reid are parasites and demagogues. They pose as the saviour of the working man but actually are their sworn enemies.
Shipbuilding went abroad because it could. It would've gone sooner if the technology and the political system had allowed it. Free movement of capital is the problem. Your gamblers and risk taskers bravely and gallantly went cap in hand to the government for tax payers money for decades until Thatcher cut taxes and turned off the taps. And what are your gamblers doing with themselves now? Have they emigrated to Korea?
@@grahamjohn678 "Your gamblers and risk taskers bravely and gallantly went cap in hand to the government for tax payers money" Surely a Communist like you would be all in favour of this kind of behaviour? Is that what you're all about? Doing everything you can to get your hands on other peoples money?
You've got me right. I am a communist and I am in favour of all of that. Just not for private profit. As Marx said, profit is the unpaid labour of the working class.
Just turned 50 and only now this man comes into my view. I’m so happy to find recorded moments like this where his opinions can be heard and for me, respected, believed, understood & absorbed into my personal view of modern politics. The belief in humanity over profit, not education for jobs but to enhance personal identity & subsequent individual strengths. Never has anyone ‘spoke’ to me with such reverence, I’m genuinely happy to find another human who has - Even if it’s hope from the grave, hope none the less. Thank you Jim ❤️
there's a great debate on (Parkinson) with him and Kenneth Williams and the audience. A great 1 hrs of nostalgia from the early seventies...
worked out well for shipbuilding, or any other industry in Scotland for that matter.
What a man. Where are the men like Jimmy Reid today? A gentleman with integrity and vision.
A voice from a time when British workers could hope to create a fair society to live and work in. Long gone now.
Mick Lynch ;)
My father was a soviet journalist, who works in London as a correspondent for "Izvestia" newspaper more than 4 years. He went to Glasgow and been there during all this events, visit one of strikes when Jimmy Reids spoke to workers and dockers. Then, together with scotish correspondent of Morning Star newspaper Arthur Milleghen he visited mister Reids home in Glasgow, saw his wife and three daughters. But most important thing, that he brought an invitation and air tickets Glasgo-London-Moscow to visit Soviet Union and have rest. Also it was a gift from soviet workers and unions. Great Jimmy Reid who struggle much for right of Scotland workers, mechanic, headman, municipal councilor, political committee member of communist Party of Great Britain, rector of Glasgow university, big worker man celebrated its 40th anniversary on Soviet land in 1972
He came from Govan and lived in Clydebank, Faifley. I was in his house, after he flitted to Rothesay. John Foster wrote the book on the UCS work-in
I really appreciate your comment annd this details James. Thank you very much
all these years later his shadow still shines a light on what could. I am ashamed of what we have become.
Such a shame Jimmy never became an MP. Wonderful to see and to hear the arguments long since burried by time and treachery.
Thank you ThamesTv! More about the trade unions/70s politics!
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Thank you ThamesTV and Jonathan Dimbleby.
Wish he was still with us. What a giant of a man.
He was a good communicator. made it simple to understand.
This footage of Jimmy Reid goes very well with Perry Anderson's recent massive summation of postwar british history in the New Left Review.
Outstanding
Dude's a Legend...reminds me of ma Granda Osborne so he does,
God Bless The Dead.....
A LEGEND OF THE PEOPLE
And then we got Thatcher….Can someone see to it that Kier Starmer watches this.
A great poet
9:10 THE ICY!!
"But although he believes change must come via the ballot box, he has no love for the parliamentary politics of today".
That is exact how I feel and have felt since I was about 17. The first time I could vote was when I realized, regardless of the best intentions of most labour and left candidates i've voted for, bourgeois tinpot democracy is drastically inefficient and borderline oppressive. How the hell can one man or woman truly represent the will of tens of thousands of people on a national level? This disconnect between local action and national government shows just how inefficient the whole process is. And when the likes of clay cross councilors in the 70s and liverpool's in the 80s try and take these actions into their own hands they get labelled as subversive and dangerous when all they were trying to do is uphold the promises they kept when they got so much as a whiff of power! Britain is a truly decadent and corrupt society, at least in political terms and nobody cares for each other because that kind of attitude is dissuaded. It's a shitshow.
Brother, you just summed up the Scottish Indy movement in a nutshell, we suffered Thatcher and her ill's, we will NOT suffer it's like under the post Brexit UK Westminster, Scotland is already lost to it, it's now when, not if. But take heart, many of us up here are trying to save, what once the best of being British was, i.e. giving a shit about the next guy along, and at least trying to make our kids lives better than ours, radical ideas these days i know, but we Scots believe in a thing called society, and lastly, politics is alive and thriving up here, and will positively explode post Indy, to the betterment of us all.
Many in the TU movement were against the EEC (EU.) The price paid by British working class bore out those concerns as Britain deindustrialised.
@@scottishbombolini7794 Judas
@@jamesgraham4242 I'm going to vote to dissolve Union, and end the UK, and I'm not alone in having that very real aim. And all with a wee X on a ballot paper, that's dropped in a black box. Tick Tock
@@scottishbombolini7794 You had your chance in 2014 and you blew it. The Jimmy Reid of the 1970's would have had zero to do with you and your SNP/IndyRef. I was there. In West Dunbartonshire we had a 55% win on a 90% turnout. I was part of that and you Judas scum let me down. Now you've all gone full Russophobe and NATO Nazi lover and not a single communist amongst you. You couldn't run a bath never mind govern and run a communist country. All Trots and pseudo-socialists. You even voted to join NATO and the EU. Now we're really up shit creek without a paddle. A total sell out of the Scottish working class.
Where are MEN like him now ?
"The Rat race is for Rats"
_Jimmy Reid
The tragedy of British industry in the twentieth century. Class divisions were such that the two sides spent most of their time fighting eachother and destroying the industries as a result.
? They didn't destroy it. The ruling class offshored it. That is what was happening here. They deindustrialisation of the West. Capital flight from West to East. Containerisation reduced transport costs to pennies.
Jimmy ried , and the Scots guards what a complication , Scotsman every one.
A time when people had opinions, and spoke to their fellow men person to person not write like I am doing now most people will read this then watch Bugs Bunny
I think the sort of folk who are reading this still care about their fellow man and woman. The last thing they'll be looking for is bugs bunny.
I do understand your point though. The modern generation is far too materialistic and the majority of them appear to have traded their humanity for personal possessions.
As a shop steward for over forty years I remember the days of the 70's, the north of England suffered much the same fate under the Tories as Scotland. They wanted our tax revenue for bugger all in return. The qualities of Jimmy Reid are to be admired. Those who decried him then are the same soulless types that are proliferate today. We move away from Jimmy's beliefs at our own peril.
The world is becoming more selfish, greedy and uncaring.
In other words right wing.
A great man ❤️
Yes they had it all. It wasn’t enough. No more.
Reid was well intentioned, but couldn't understand Communism was destined to fail.
Except in China and because Western capitalists haven't found a way to destroy it yet.
Not one of the workers he represented was forced to work for the shipyards. They signed on voluntarily.
Those he vilified for "shoving pieces of paper around", could have lost everything - but they chose to gamble and took the risks. The labourers who made those boats were paid to do so. They could have made boats themselves - but they chose to take the safe option, for a regular wage.
He put his own men on the scrap heap, by invoking perpetual strikes and making shipbuilding uneconomical. Now we buy ships from Korea, China, Japan and India. His union members ended up with zero. (Who would want to run a shipyard beset with workers continuously involved in "industrial action"?). He got rid of the Scots businessmen "shoving pieces of paper around" and handed it all to Asians instead - who treat their workers 1000 worse than any Scottish employer. I hope his union members felt the exercise was worthwhile, as they lined up in the unemployment queues.
He ruined the Scottish shipbuilding industry due to his jealousy of rich people.
Socialism and communism tears the heart out of human drive and initiative. People like Reid are parasites and demagogues. They pose as the saviour of the working man but actually are their sworn enemies.
Shipbuilding went abroad because it could. It would've gone sooner if the technology and the political system had allowed it. Free movement of capital is the problem. Your gamblers and risk taskers bravely and gallantly went cap in hand to the government for tax payers money for decades until Thatcher cut taxes and turned off the taps. And what are your gamblers doing with themselves now? Have they emigrated to Korea?
@@grahamjohn678 "Your gamblers and risk taskers bravely and gallantly went cap in hand to the government for tax payers money"
Surely a Communist like you would be all in favour of this kind of behaviour?
Is that what you're all about? Doing everything you can to get your hands on other peoples money?
You've got me right. I am a communist and I am in favour of all of that. Just not for private profit. As Marx said, profit is the unpaid labour of the working class.
@NoosaHeads LIAR