Never heard of him,watched your video,his career stats in 332 regular season games are 17,4 points 10,2 rebounds and 3 dimes. Impressive. Good job on the highlights and promotion of this player.
That's literally the exact name I thought of in watching some highlights of Ruland. He was like a more rough and rugged version of Jokic. Dude was a force when he was healthy and in his prime.
Wow, I had no idea he was able to handle the ball like that. The first step and the baseline dunk at 3:04 was beautiful. Eye test and numbers (before injury) do not lie. Definitely would have been elite if not for the foot injuries/problems.
Jefff Rulan was no scrub. Check out his highlights. He ran the floor and could handle the rock. He would shoot also. Averaged a double double for his career. Plus he didn't even fould him 😮
"McFilthy"! Yup, Ruland was the American mini version of Arvydas Sabonis. Unfortunately, he ended up with a similar track record of injuries as his Lithuanian counterpart and didn't last long in the NBA as a result.
I remember Ruland....he could be called a Jokic prototype for a couple of years (1983-85)....but let's not get carried away.... he did not come close to having the dribbling skills of Jokic...and he suffered a broken bone in his foot and played just 37 games in 86. Ruland had brittle feet, like Bill Walton, and his NBA career was over by 1993.
I love it! 😂 And your dribble skill looked very good for a big in those times, people somehow forget the difference in training emphasis on certain skills now vs then@@jeffruland2176
Nikola is awesome, but his talent is maximized due to the spacing and weak rules that give him more liberty. Imagine if bigs in the past had the same space and freedom to move without tons of bodies around them?
Sixers traded Moses Malone & 5 games into sixers career he torn his knee up smh. What could've been playing with Barkley, maybe we never would've traded Barkley
@@Swove2204 - Tom McMillen; IIRC, played at Maryland -- He was prematurely gray but a very solid player -- 6 10 who could shoot. McMillen and Bill Bradley both became members of congress.
@@JohnnyRodgers3Jokic ranks as a top tier team defender this is crazy talk. Watch the Phoenix series from this years playoffs, dude just eats the middle of the floor and kills all the Booker and KD action. Larry was solid before injuries, but he’s never had that type of impact defensively in a playoff series. The last two seasons now Denver has had a top 5 defense with Joker on the floor, and league worst when he’s off.. might be something he struggled with in the past but he’s among the best in the league at defending in space and taking away angles.. he’s basically what Mark Gasol was the year Mark won DPOTY. Also, Bird ranks below him in rebounding, blocks, scoring efficiency.. shooting is comparable, Bird has a slight advantage from 3 and the FT line, but so far Jokic has shown the ability to maintain his shooting in the playoffs better than Larry. He’s got a long ways to go before he should be compared to Bird on their careers and look like a top 10 player, but you’re really shortchanging the player he is right now at this moment.
@@airgordo4 Larry bird has always had high defensive impact...I can't agree with that...not.only was he good at rotating and filling in space but he was GREAT at calling out defensive collapses and helping teammates get in position...sure jokic might better than bird in terms of interior contest...but is bird not far superior in terms of disrupting passes and denying open looks...even after injuries bird was still a better all around off ball defender and team defender than just jokic...yes they share similar IQ on both sides of the ball, but bird had the means and athletic ability to actually act on it more times than jokic...he's less of a liability on the perimeter, he's less of a liability in transition, he's very strong on the block...even after injuries he STILL played with more hustle and grit than jokic ever had...🤷♂️ and no jokic is NOT a better rebounder than bird...bird was playing along side Parish and Mchale....He's also a wing and was playing in a era where the paint was clogged...so going in for a rebound was damn near always met with resistance compared to today's NBA...(and it was even harder in wilts era)...and even with all that STATISTICALLY jokic is marginally better... VISUALLY and LITTERALLY bird is a superior rebounder...bird is also a far better 3 point shooter and shooter in general...and the same context applies...bird was playing in a low volume low % 3 pt era...jokic is playing in a HIGH volume good % 3 point era... look at how many % points on average and at their best that they ranked above league average....jokic is great don't get me wrong...but he's nothing we've NEVER seen before...sabonis, bird, Walton, wilt all tremendously gifted big men with high to elite passing IQ/ability....same thing with giannis...we've had bill russell, we've had David Robinson....with LeBron weve had Gus honey comb Johnson ...the only player who was probably the 1st of his kind is KD
@@JohnnyRodgers3 Visuaully and literally he isn’t a better rebounder though. The gap between isn’t even particularly close. Jokic is in the top 15 on his career for rebound%, Bird is 144th. The gap between them larger than the gap between Bird and guys who don’t even crack the top 250.. and if you want to take Bird’s peak year (rookie year) where he wasn’t playing next to any of those guys mentioned, and Jokic’s peak year (last year) that gap is even larger than the gap they have on their careers. Jokic’s peak rebound% is Dennis Rodman’s career average rebound%. You’re underselling him. No doubt more bigs and more resistance on the glass in previous years, but also less long rebounds from outside shots and more chances around the rim to grab boards when you aren’t being pulled away from the rim on pick and rolls every play on defense and pulled from the rim to set ball screens at the three point line every play on offense. Impossible to determine which effects rebounding more (most likely close to a wash) but they aren’t even close enough for us to debate it if we are being realistic. Even as a center Jokic likely spends more time away from the rim on both ends than Larry, and still crushes the glass. “Far better shooter” is a stretch. Jokic isn’t high volume from three either and unlike Bird he’s rarely left wide open from three (because of how little it was utilized/defended in that era).. nobody knows what high volume attempts from Bird would look like or how it would translate because we are making up something that we’ve never seen/never existed. Right now Jokic is over 40% on his career in the playoffs, he’s barely under 40% this past regular season. Comparable to any seasons from Bird. He shot 59% on deep twos this past year, and 50% on 10-16ft mid-range shots, and 64% on 3-10ft mid range shots with a lethal floater.. this is both better than Kevin Durant from mid range, and what little tracking we have of Jordan in the late 90s from mid range. To say he isn’t comparable as a shooter at this stage isn’t fair at all to what he’s been producing. Jokic had some similarities to passing bigs like Walton and Sabonis but his ability to hit those Bird-like flip passes, and hit guys at full speed with either hand in stride like Kidd/Magic definitely make him unique in comparison to any other big in league history. Regardless of how you feel about he vs Bird, any of this “far better this”, “far better that” is greatly underselling how good Jokic is right now in this moment.
Ruland was a very good player -- In those days a severe injury and you were done. Bill Walton, Bob Lanier, Artis Gilmore, Austin Carr, Sabonis, and many others were never the same after their injuries. Today they are likely out for only part of the season.
murderous !! shoulda been given 60 shot a game!! what a nuclear bobm!! bird n parish dont know what to do!! lol look at that back door over top pass 003
Never heard of him,watched your video,his career stats in 332 regular season games are 17,4 points 10,2 rebounds and 3 dimes. Impressive. Good job on the highlights and promotion of this player.
Special talent, hopefully there’s more footage of him that comes out in the future
Just taking a peek at these highlights, he actually looks more like Arvydas Sabonis than Jokic to me.
💯
definitely not on the level of either
He was also the Bad Boys prototype along with Rick Mahorn.
Him & Mahorn,the beef brothers.Damn the 80's basketball was great.
That's literally the exact name I thought of in watching some highlights of Ruland. He was like a more rough and rugged version of Jokic. Dude was a force when he was healthy and in his prime.
Great insight! I loved watching Jeff play and also saw the comparison to Jokic. Thanks for making people aware. A shame Ruland's career was cut short.
Thanks for posting this. I didn't really know him.
Wow, I had no idea he was able to handle the ball like that. The first step and the baseline dunk at 3:04 was beautiful. Eye test and numbers (before injury) do not lie. Definitely would have been elite if not for the foot injuries/problems.
I loved watching his smooth moves and power
it's for this kind of video that I subscribe to this channel
Jefff Rulan was no scrub. Check out his highlights. He ran the floor and could handle the rock. He would shoot also. Averaged a double double for his career. Plus he didn't even fould him 😮
Just remember Sabonnis before the knee injuries and Fred Flintstone makeover.
Loved hearing Mike and Tommy
im so proud to say one of the best basketball vaults in the world, comes from a Pistons fan. You and Keith Black Trudeau 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Pride of the Iona Gaels!
What buffles me is that this is the same broadcaster for the Celtics of today 😅
Yup Mike Gorman has been doing it for a long time! Sadly, this upcoming season will be his last 😢
@@dblanch99and they won the championship so that’s only fair
If he doesn't get injured he's a no questions hall of famer.
Former Iona Gaels Head Coach. Took the Gaels to the NCAA Tournament three times in the 2000s
MVP! MVP ! MVP!
Ruland looks more like mini Arvydas Sabonis 😅
A cheaper Sabonis that is lmao
"McFilthy"! Yup, Ruland was the American mini version of Arvydas Sabonis. Unfortunately, he ended up with a similar track record of injuries as his Lithuanian counterpart and didn't last long in the NBA as a result.
The american Sabonis.
I remember Ruland....he could be called a Jokic prototype for a couple of years (1983-85)....but let's not get carried away.... he did not come close to having the dribbling skills of Jokic...and he suffered a broken bone in his foot and played just 37 games in 86. Ruland had brittle feet, like Bill Walton, and his NBA career was over by 1993.
Was my knee. U must be a brain surgeon
I love it! 😂 And your dribble skill looked very good for a big in those times, people somehow forget the difference in training emphasis on certain skills now vs then@@jeffruland2176
Parish looks like a teenage next to him :) White Shaq
One of the too many players with a career wrecked by injuries and physical issues impossible to overcome.
Ruland was faster up and down the floor than Jokic.
Didn't have anywhere near joker's shooting range, though.
Nikola is awesome, but his talent is maximized due to the spacing and weak rules that give him more liberty. Imagine if bigs in the past had the same space and freedom to move without tons of bodies around them?
he could ball,I feel for him too many injuries
Jugo en España
Sixers traded Moses Malone & 5 games into sixers career he torn his knee up smh. What could've been playing with Barkley, maybe we never would've traded Barkley
*traded Moses Malone for him
2:30 I romimber that gray haded whistledink he ustee play onto Atlatlantla
Looks like he just got out of the hospital after a car crash...😅
That’s Tom McMillen, who went on to become a United States Congressman.
@@Swove2204 - Tom McMillen; IIRC, played at Maryland -- He was prematurely gray but a very solid player -- 6 10 who could shoot. McMillen and Bill Bradley both became members of congress.
More like Sabonis
Not as skilled, but probaly a better athlete then Jokic!
Not probably.. DEFINITELY more athletic than jokic
"A mid-80's Nikola Jokic prototype"
That's Larry Bird lmao
Bird was a wing that could play guard. Jokic is a center
@@JohnnyRodgers3Jokic ranks as a top tier team defender this is crazy talk. Watch the Phoenix series from this years playoffs, dude just eats the middle of the floor and kills all the Booker and KD action. Larry was solid before injuries, but he’s never had that type of impact defensively in a playoff series. The last two seasons now Denver has had a top 5 defense with Joker on the floor, and league worst when he’s off.. might be something he struggled with in the past but he’s among the best in the league at defending in space and taking away angles.. he’s basically what Mark Gasol was the year Mark won DPOTY.
Also, Bird ranks below him in rebounding, blocks, scoring efficiency.. shooting is comparable, Bird has a slight advantage from 3 and the FT line, but so far Jokic has shown the ability to maintain his shooting in the playoffs better than Larry.
He’s got a long ways to go before he should be compared to Bird on their careers and look like a top 10 player, but you’re really shortchanging the player he is right now at this moment.
@@airgordo4 Larry bird has always had high defensive impact...I can't agree with that...not.only was he good at rotating and filling in space but he was GREAT at calling out defensive collapses and helping teammates get in position...sure jokic might better than bird in terms of interior contest...but is bird not far superior in terms of disrupting passes and denying open looks...even after injuries bird was still a better all around off ball defender and team defender than just jokic...yes they share similar IQ on both sides of the ball, but bird had the means and athletic ability to actually act on it more times than jokic...he's less of a liability on the perimeter, he's less of a liability in transition, he's very strong on the block...even after injuries he STILL played with more hustle and grit than jokic ever had...🤷♂️ and no jokic is NOT a better rebounder than bird...bird was playing along side Parish and Mchale....He's also a wing and was playing in a era where the paint was clogged...so going in for a rebound was damn near always met with resistance compared to today's NBA...(and it was even harder in wilts era)...and even with all that STATISTICALLY jokic is marginally better... VISUALLY and LITTERALLY bird is a superior rebounder...bird is also a far better 3 point shooter and shooter in general...and the same context applies...bird was playing in a low volume low % 3 pt era...jokic is playing in a HIGH volume good % 3 point era... look at how many % points on average and at their best that they ranked above league average....jokic is great don't get me wrong...but he's nothing we've NEVER seen before...sabonis, bird, Walton, wilt all tremendously gifted big men with high to elite passing IQ/ability....same thing with giannis...we've had bill russell, we've had David Robinson....with LeBron weve had Gus honey comb Johnson
...the only player who was probably the 1st of his kind is KD
@@JohnnyRodgers3 Visuaully and literally he isn’t a better rebounder though. The gap between isn’t even particularly close. Jokic is in the top 15 on his career for rebound%, Bird is 144th. The gap between them larger than the gap between Bird and guys who don’t even crack the top 250.. and if you want to take Bird’s peak year (rookie year) where he wasn’t playing next to any of those guys mentioned, and Jokic’s peak year (last year) that gap is even larger than the gap they have on their careers. Jokic’s peak rebound% is Dennis Rodman’s career average rebound%. You’re underselling him.
No doubt more bigs and more resistance on the glass in previous years, but also less long rebounds from outside shots and more chances around the rim to grab boards when you aren’t being pulled away from the rim on pick and rolls every play on defense and pulled from the rim to set ball screens at the three point line every play on offense. Impossible to determine which effects rebounding more (most likely close to a wash) but they aren’t even close enough for us to debate it if we are being realistic. Even as a center Jokic likely spends more time away from the rim on both ends than Larry, and still crushes the glass.
“Far better shooter” is a stretch. Jokic isn’t high volume from three either and unlike Bird he’s rarely left wide open from three (because of how little it was utilized/defended in that era).. nobody knows what high volume attempts from Bird would look like or how it would translate because we are making up something that we’ve never seen/never existed. Right now Jokic is over 40% on his career in the playoffs, he’s barely under 40% this past regular season. Comparable to any seasons from Bird. He shot 59% on deep twos this past year, and 50% on 10-16ft mid-range shots, and 64% on 3-10ft mid range shots with a lethal floater.. this is both better than Kevin Durant from mid range, and what little tracking we have of Jordan in the late 90s from mid range. To say he isn’t comparable as a shooter at this stage isn’t fair at all to what he’s been producing.
Jokic had some similarities to passing bigs like Walton and Sabonis but his ability to hit those Bird-like flip passes, and hit guys at full speed with either hand in stride like Kidd/Magic definitely make him unique in comparison to any other big in league history.
Regardless of how you feel about he vs Bird, any of this “far better this”, “far better that” is greatly underselling how good Jokic is right now in this moment.
@@airgordo4 also 2 more talking points 😭
1. The 60s-mid 70s was the true golden age of big men
2. Who's your starting 5
So, a white center from dinosaur era....
You completely missed the point of the video!
@@recorz98 I didn't, I just make jokes...
Bad ones.
Ruland was a very good player -- In those days a severe injury and you were done. Bill Walton, Bob Lanier, Artis Gilmore, Austin Carr, Sabonis, and many others were never the same after their injuries. Today they are likely out for only part of the season.
murderous !! shoulda been given 60 shot a game!! what a nuclear bobm!! bird n parish dont know what to do!! lol look at that back door over top pass 003
Ruland was faster up and down the floor than Jokic.