I love how fresh MrMobile's reviews feel... In a world where all tech youtubers are following pre defined set of rules while reviewing gadgets... MrMobile somehow makes that process fun and addicting to watch like seriously kudos !
For real, most others are essentially reading off the specs list, MrMobile talks a lot about the usability and actual day-to-day use experience -- the things we genuinely need to know in reviews!
This is my friend's second Kindle. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOnUR4NaproSbBbD2sdI4XcDZ58Jz8GOx The first one which is about 5 or 6 years old quit charging because the bottom connector went bad. When I saw they upgraded to a USB C connector I knew it was time. I think the old USB Micro connectors are a PIA. Her new one is great. It synced right out of the box and connected to WiFi immediately. The thing is perfect! Sooo mine will arrive tomorrow. (Been reading off an old Fire) What bugs me are the reviewers that give this product one star because it didn't work out of the box or they were too dumb to figure it out. If it doesn't work send it back and get another one. It couldn't be easier with Amazon. Giving it one star because it didn't work says nothing about a good one that does work. I bet a bad one is one in a thousand or more. Give it a break...just get another one.
Man, there's so much about this that looks amazing with some somewhat mind-boggling omissions, especially at the price. I definitely want to still give this a look as it seems like one of the more interesting things from their new lineup of products.
One thing that I would like to see is a minimal word processor and the ability to pair with a Bluetooth keyboard. That would just be so handy for writing articles or blog posts
Amazon should publish a features roadmap for this device given the lack of features. It may encourage people who bought it to keep it and encourage those on the fence to purchase.
I have a large astigmatism in one of my eyes which means reading on a screen at night is way too difficult. I picked up a kobo after one of your e-reader reviews and absolutely love it. I’m happy to see Amazon adding a pen to kindle and I can’t wait to see how e-paper keeps developing!
Kobo also has an eReader with pen support. Actually it has two of them, check out Kobo Sage and Kobo Elipsa. ;-) If you're already in the Kobo ecosystem, it might make more sense to get a Kobo device with pen support than migrate to Kindle.
Deals are out there. I got my Fold 3 from Best Buy for $1k off plus Verizon gave me $800 for trading in a Pixel 4XL. Device payment minus monthly bill credits and I'm making $0.08 per month on the phone
Nice review Michael. I'm using a remarkable 2 and the biggest advantage it has over the kindle or iPad is that you're disconnected from the web while focused on your writing. I use it to take extensive notes that I can sync up to my phone or pc. You can also send pdf and web articles to the R2. It serves it's purpose by keeping you focused on that one thing you need to use it for.
If it works for you, well good. But really you're paying them (well, new customers are) to limit what you can do on your device despite it being perfectly capable of doing it. You could do what you do with any device.
I definitely feel this. Made a big deal out of the "intentional limitation" approach to tech on my Kindle Paperwhite Signature review. Just feels like a product like this, which is meant for wider use cases, deserves more capability than Amazon has chosen to include. Especially for the price.
The problem with devices like this is that paper and pen still has the advantage. e-ink has to go full colour with 60hz refresh rate before it will be considered by anyone other than a niche audience of.. people who want to draw on books?
Eh? But then... you lose the advantage of very good battery life. So, low 'refresh rate' is not disadvantage per se, but a trade-off. Take look at Onyx Boox Tab Ultra, it has significantly improved in terms of responsiveness/refresh rate, but, the cost, is quite worse battery life. Still, it is at the point, where browsing internet is actually reasonable experience
after waiting a few months for scribe to arrive , it arrived today , promptly crashes and gets itself stuck in a loop updating its Os. amazon support were quite deeming and belligerent in their online chat to the point were i have hung up , raised an official complaint about the whole matter and will be shipping the scribe back to amazon tomorrow and most likely investing in kobos eclipse and converting may 500 book library !! buyer be warned !!
Early impressions.. great if you want to read kindle books on it (you can’t with the Remarkable) and the backlight is great for varying light conditions (Remarkable has no backlight) As for writing the screen/pen has no pressure sensitivity so you can’t emphasise text by pressing harder/lighter. Scribe screen does a full refresh when you use the erase which is annoying/distracting. And there are fewer pen styles to choose from
Is it just me or Michael's channel hasn't seen much spurting growth as compared to other tech channels. The script, editing and video quality is excellent as always, but the subscriber count is rather constant. I enjoy the road trip videos Mr Mobile makes. And it would be very fun to watch him move them up a scale. Like going to Asia with a new mobile to test it out.
I would have loved this as a digital legal pad when I was in school. I’m a firm believer in hand writing improving retention. I got by with the first GEN iPad mini, and a capacitive stylus.
I would love to know your thoughts on why non e-ink tablets weren't mentioned outside of the tablet writing, especially when it comes to price. If we're comparing practicality, a Scribe with pen is punching relatively close to a base model 10th gen ipad.
I got the 9th gen ipad for $50 less than the cheapest configuration of this brand new. This shouldn't be over $250 imo, but many will still buy at the current price I am sure.
I also have the reMarkable 2 and won't be rushing to replace it with the new Kindle Scribe. I like what I saw in your review, but the biggest feature I use with reMarkable is the screen sharing. I call it my "magic white board." I use it during my software bootcamp instruction. Also, when you compare the Kindle Scribe to the vast array of eInk / Scribe devices, Kindle Scribe feels like a mere Kindle upgrade - which is probably all Amazon was shooting for, anyway. Thanks for your work, I'm subscribed, and continued success!
IMO, as long as the Kindle doesn't require an active subscription to make notes, the increased price can be argued as worth it compared to Remarkable's subscription
I love Kindle Scribe. For a table editor who needs to read manuscripts and originals, and annotate observations for reading reports, Kindle Scribe is a fantastic choice.
As someone who’s always had trouble using tablets and digital pens for art specifically *because* of the way using said pens on smooth plastic/glass feels, this Kindle almost has me hooked. Almost. The lack of a color display, along with a severely undercooked browser, are the two big things keeping me on the fence. Not to mention…you know…this is Amazon we’re talking about here; I don’t wanna give my money to a company that forces its employees to work in horrendous conditions for barely-acceptable wages.
Something like this, ideally at a lower price and a slightly more portable size, would be great for me. I'm a musician and i currently write lyrics on my phone, but being able to physically write them down on something i can carry everyday would be great for me purely because i tend to be more commited when physically writing as opposed to typing. Scribbling out ink or erasing pencil lead is much more work than holding backspace, so rethinking and overthinking spur of the moment thoughts on something that emulates how annoying erasing over and over is would happen less
Weird to hear myself saying it, but ... if you can get a Surface Duo on the cheap, consider that. Not a great phone, but it has pen support and is a wonderful portable e-notebook.
I've used the remarkable and have a kobo elipsa myself. And the amazon seems to be nailing it with this one. The remarkable is a great device with the big disadvantage that it lacks a backlight. The writing is the best I've tried on any device (it feels like a wacom tablet with a nice pen) and it has great features like projecting your eink display to your pc so you can draw on a projector or in a teams meeting. The kobo is worse in writing features and writing quality and is alot bulkier but is a more advanced ereader with a backlight. If amazon does the best of both then it is a no brainer. These devices are great for work, its the notebook or scrap paper in front of your keyboard that you can organise at ease. Take it home and you can still read a nice book. I also disagree with your remarks on reading on a foldable phone. E-ink displays don't strain your eyes since it is magnetic black pigment instead of light which is objectively healthier regardless of your preference.
Especially with the rise of eInk Android tablets which allow for more note options, as well as the Kindle app, this seems like a super niche and clunky product. I still don’t understand why Amazon didn’t use FireOS with this device and preload it with some stuff that a reader might want, while giving them the option to use actual Android apps. I’m sure this product will go on sale, but as someone who takes a ton of handwritten notes for school and work, I would never be able to justify buying this device when it has so many syncing limitations, along with a god awful web interface (something critical if you want to download PDFs without the use of a separate computer or phone).
kindle's OS is made from the ground-up for an e-paper/e-ink display. it's designed to make the slow refresh rate look good, and minimize distractions, whilst most android apps would perform poorly at best on such a low-refresh display, not to mention the power draw android has compared to this ultra-lightweight device. as for syncing, very valid point, you might want to see if you can get access to wifi at your school or work, which would remedy any syncing issue i could find.
@@Hittsy the syncing issue refers to the fact that a lot of PDFs that someone might want to edit and then upload are hosted on a website or through cloud storage (enterprise or personal). For instance, my professors will post the lectures or homework in PowerPoint or PDF form on the class webpage. From there we can download them and mark up as needed. In the case of homework, we often need to upload the marked up document. On an iPad or Android tablet this is super simple and there’s no need for a separate device. On the kindle scribe this would be a much more convoluted process as it still requires using a laptop or phone to send the stuff over. This extends to outside of academia as well. If you want to upload notes to a shared drive via an iPad, it’s usually pretty simple and can be done on device. With the Kindle scribe, this potentially involves emailing the document, then using a separate device to upload and download. Also from my understanding, the eInk Android tablets can still have a week or longer battery life, especially when measured under the same parameters that Amazon advertises the kindle scribe battery life. It’s not amazing but a week is totally sufficient for the vast majority of people who aren’t like Appalachian trail backpackers
great review. ive been eyeing a e-ink device I can write notes on. However, ive always found them expensive (looking at you ReMarkable2). Thought this Kindle Scribe would be the answer. However, im not sure if paying $480+ for a Scribe or if it would be better spent buying a 2018 used iPad Pro for around $400+$100 for the stylus. I think im gonna stick with my $2 dead tree notebooks, till the e-ink notetaking devices become better
Personally, I have an iPad that has a matte screen protector and a third-party stylus which cost $25 and is fantastic. I use it every day to take notes for school, as well as do homework, and the matte texture, will not precisely emulating the feel of writing on paper, does do a good enough job, considering that it only cost $8 for a two pack. It also substantially reduces glare outside. For me electronic note taking is worth it, as an can hold all of my textbooks, notes from my entire time in university, along with other stuff specific to school. I wouldn’t recommend it for someone who is only jotting down maybe a page or two a week however.
Almost bought one but canceled for a signature edition paperwhite with black friday discount for half the price. I wonder why they went with the big bezel at one side. Since this isnt a one hand device a 1cm bezel all around would have been better with decent protection against unwanted inputs. Or alternatively they could have gone the Oasis route. I hope they'll refresh the oasis some day.
I absolutely love my reMarkable 2, but it would be way more useful if I could buy ebooks on it... a shame the Scribe's design isn't quite as nice though. Might wait for the Scribe 2, if they make one.
I love the idea, but the lack of cellular is a weirdly big omission to me. One of the best parts of the older Kindles was having the ability to just grab a book whenever you wanted from the web without the need to either have existing wifi or starting up my phone as a hotspot.
Great review. Well balanced and practical analysis. 👊🏻👏🏻 The editorial independence peice is important and why this channel is always somewhere to go for a trusted review IMO.
I am not sure why Kindle doesn't include a speaker or headphone jack (or via USB-C) so we can use the decive for Audiable as well!! Most other e-ink tablet do include it
They used to have a headphone jack and speaker, they got rid of it in the gap between models where they flat out killed Audible support for a long while there.
Have you ever taken a gander at the tolino line of E-Readers? They're very solid Readers by a German conglomerate of bookstores, designed to be as open and accessible as possible whilst also having great integration with the online bookshelves of the stores that created it.
Here’s a question. My SO is an artist who draws a lot on her ipad pro+apple pencil. But for some reason, she sticks to paper notebooks for notetaking. And she does a crap ton of note taking. Do you think getting her this as a gift would finally get her off of paper notebooks? Or is it closer to an ipad with pencil that she’ll end up still using paper notebooks? The problem here is archiving her notebooks. Digital is just easier and she’s lost a ton of old notebooks from termites and humidity.
At the end of the day, the Kindle Scribe is just a Kindle Paperwhite with a pen. Take away the pen and it's identical to the Paperwhite as Mr. Mobile pointed out. Just with a slightly bigger screen. While the bigger display can be nice, It also makes the Scribe far less portable. It's not as convenient to stuff into bags or smaller pocket areas as a Kindle Basic or Kindle Paperwhite. The Kindle Scribe also doesn't offer water resistance like the Kindle Paperwhite or wireless charging like the Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition nor even the Kids functionality option the Paperwhite has. And the Paperwhite still offers note-taking abilities even without the pen. And the price of the Scribe is a lot more than the Paperwhite. So if you plan on buying a Scribe, make sure you really want the convenience of the pen or the larger display. Because you're going to pay a whole lot more for it and it won't be quite as portable and will be heavier to hold. And you will lose the water resistance and wireless charging abilities of the Paperwhite Signature Edition. Some people will love this device. It is a Paperwhite with a pen after all. But most will probably still stick with the Paperwhite I'm willing to bet since you still get everything the Scribe offers (Minus the pen and bigger display.) Personally, I love the Scribe. But the pen functionality is a bit too limited. And at the end of the day, my "Paperwhite Signature Edition" does everything the Scribe does. (Again minus being able to draw and write on the display with a pen.) And the steep price is asking a bit too much. Now if it gets new features added in with software updates then it may become worth it. But most likely the bulk of these new features will all be released as soon as the 2nd generation Scribe releases sometime in 2025. Usually, it's the 2nd generation device that finally gets all the bells and whistles. And this is because manufacturers like Samsung, Apple, and Amazon with the Kindle all know early adopters will always run out and buy it so sales are likely a non-issue. It's the 2nd generation that brings a lot of improvements to keep the sales momentum going from the 1st generation devise because now you're dealing with the average consumer and not early adopters. Just look at how much better the Galaxy Fold 2 was compared to the first-generation Fold. (Especially with the hinge redesign.)
I use a remarkable for college notes. Being an engineering student I have so many equations and diagrams in class that are just not practical to do through typing
I have a Remarkable 2 and now it is in the drawer. I save so much paper with the Kindle Scribe (it is worth the money). Remarkable 2 problem is the screen isn't bright enough and the Kindle Scribe is bright and easy to use without a light on.
Would have been interesting to know more about how good of a note-taking tool this is. Can you search through notes (with OCR)? How does it handle notebooks, archiving, etc?
thanks for showing highlighting text in a book, that's what I've been curious about (but don't see other vids showing) 3:23. At least I think that's book text and not just a pdf
That odd block shape kills this for me. I'm very intrigued by some of the color e-ink tablets too but I haven't been convinced anything is better than my Fold paired with my Tab S8 Ultra. Interesting thought would be a foldable or dual screen device. Outer display is an S22 Ultra size and style while the inside is an e-ink with stylus support. Now THAT would be a "shut up and take my money" device and one I'd surely buy after seeing a Mr. Mobile review of.
Pretty sure they have that. Forget the phone name though. came out a couple years ago....not sure if they ever kept it up. They have had laptops as well. I'm always interested when I see them!
While I am unsure if I would ever want to buy one of these, as my Ipad is what I prefer for writing, I do like some of the things that Amazon did here. I like that they have the built in eraser feature and the fact that there is a custom button on the side to do whatever you need it to do. Lots for Apple and Samsung to learn from here even if they dont make tablets like this.
"Lots for Apple and Samsung to learn from here"? Such as? I have an iPad Pro 12.9 and there is nothing for them to learn from this from a software point of view. Hardware is a different kettle of fish though but the only differentiator is e-ink and that market has plenty of options......
@@cosmonz um, I never said anything about them learning anything on a software point at all actually. Never even said anything about the device as well. All I said was that there were a handful of things that Amazon did in the stylus that I thought Apple and Samsung should copy as they are nice features.
Amazon is offering 20% discount + $30 credit if you trade in a their 6.8 inch kindle....picked up the base version of my scribe for around $240 which made it an easier purchase.
Fantastic review as always. I am right now very unsure if I am going to get a scribe or if I'll stick still a bit longer with my voyage. I love to use the pen on my surface 8, but the e-ink displays are so much better for my eyes when reading before sleeping. I also use the pen on my note 20... Well, "First world problems" I guess, as long as this are my only problems I have to be really thankful.
Michael, I have an Onyx Boox Note Air 2 that does everything that the Kindle does, plus the facility of having an Android system and 64 gb, which gives me more freedom. It costs around 400 bucks. I think Amazon got a little over on the price. If this kindle costs around 250 dollars, I would consider it. But I think that there is better options right now o the market. Amazon is late on this run.
Not everything, Kindle has the best display by far in this size category (300 ppi) and the point of e-readers is providing distraction free reading, no point in having a full Android system with horrible app display and response.
@@randomuser5237 thank you for the reply. Indeed, the Kindle does have a better screen, but that’s it. My Note Air is my e-reader, and I don’t complain about the quality of the screen. And the facility to get other archives (like mangas) on the android is a no-brainer for me. But, everyone has a need, right? I’m used to the Android system on it, and right now, getting a Kindle would be a downgrade for me. But, if you never had an e-reader with a stylus, and don’t miss the other features, it’s a good choice. But I still think it is a bit overpriced.
I would be curious about your thoughts on a foldable Scribe (or Remarkable or Boox or Supernote or whatever else). Would having a book on one side and notes on the other, or two screens to allow for better emulation of the pages of a book, etc. be enough to make you want a dedicated reading/note taking device apart from your phone?
My ereader selection is purely ecosystem based, since as a Canadian I can connect to my library and like the ability to sideload I generally go to Kobo
4:25 - So, you don't read (aside FB, Twitter or very occasional web site or blog - I read web content longer than a screenful by sending it to Kindle.) Otherwise, you would realize that e-readers belong to a completely different category from tablets and smartphones. I _do_ understand that your folding phone bridges the gap between smartphone and tablet - that's why those complex beasts are there. But read a novel in one or two sittings - you wont do that on your foldable phone. You will either get a proper e-paper based reader (not necessarily Kindle), or go for a good old DTB. that said, I _do_ agree that Amazon kind of stopped halfway with Scribe.
Feels weird to see a sorta onyx boox note air knock off. I bought that like a year ago and love it, but I can see how the experience might be a step more but you get full Android in return with almost endless possibilities
I genuinely wish I had a reason to use something like this, but I NEVER have to write anything. Maybe once or twice a year will I have to actually write something. Kinda makes me sad. Wish this thing was around when I was in school.
thanks i was thinking of buying one. Convenience of amazon store doesn't matter to me since i will mostly be transferring pdfs. Is it still better than other e-readers?
Why would you buy this for reading and annotating pdfs. Text size adjustments, text reflow, scrolling vertically and horizontally, displaying scientific and mathematical notations are something that can never be comfortable with an e-ink display.
Thank you... Is it Andriod based or Unix? And if its Andriod based, can you download apps from the store? Is the tip of the pen ceramic (lifetime no need to be replaced)? I am currently using SuperNote, which is Andriod based but limited access to apps to be installed (which I am ok with) but want to know if the Kindle is a better option, being a Kindle user since Kindle started.
the Kindle runs Linux. you can jailbreak it, but only when you’re on a software version that’s supported by a jailbreak. (the best way to do this is to stick around on as low a firmware as possible, and keep an eye out for the latest exploits on MobileRead.) once there’s a jailbreak, you can run whatever you want on the Kindle - alternative readers, apps, or even a full Linux installation, complete with Google Chrome and package repositories, for… whatever you’d possibly want that for!
In the EU it compares like this: Kindle Scribe (64gb, premium pencil, no folio): 450€ - 430g Remarkable 2 (8gb, marker plus, no folio): 478€ - 403g - not compatible with kindle Huawei Matepad Paper (64gb, M-Pencil, folio included): 450€ - 360g - capable processor, solid audio, normal tablet functionality - the downside: batteries will be consumed much faster
@@ZverseZ there is also the Onyx Boox note air 2 plus which seems to be a great reader/Notepad tablet and runs android 11. It's 479$ right now and seems to be as a complete package as the matepad paper plus having a better stylus. Only downside: with 445 it's the most heavy option.
Kindle forever after. A tablet or phone is not even comparable for me. The whole experience is much better. I personally prefer the small kindle for reading. Best dimensions for the job. But the big one could come in handy in certain tasks
The Display coating on my Kindle scribe comes off in the upper left corner after only 24 hours and without transporting the kindle. and the notes app has hung up several times with an error message. very strange.
As a remarkable 2 owner I kinda hope Amazon buries remarkable with the kindle scribe. My issue with remarkable has always been that I can’t really read anything other than pdfs on it….which is not what I really wanted when I bought remarkable. It was good but rather than update to a remarkable 3 I’ll be getting the scribe. Now I can read all my ebooks
@mrmobile thanks for the review! I suggest looking at the boox line up. I have the note 2 plus and it’s fantastic. The new Ultra looks miles ahead of the Kindle.
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I love how fresh MrMobile's reviews feel... In a world where all tech youtubers are following pre defined set of rules while reviewing gadgets... MrMobile somehow makes that process fun and addicting to watch like seriously kudos !
For real, most others are essentially reading off the specs list, MrMobile talks a lot about the usability and actual day-to-day use experience -- the things we genuinely need to know in reviews!
This is my friend's second Kindle. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxOnUR4NaproSbBbD2sdI4XcDZ58Jz8GOx The first one which is about 5 or 6 years old quit charging because the bottom connector went bad. When I saw they upgraded to a USB C connector I knew it was time. I think the old USB Micro connectors are a PIA. Her new one is great. It synced right out of the box and connected to WiFi immediately. The thing is perfect! Sooo mine will arrive tomorrow. (Been reading off an old Fire) What bugs me are the reviewers that give this product one star because it didn't work out of the box or they were too dumb to figure it out. If it doesn't work send it back and get another one. It couldn't be easier with Amazon. Giving it one star because it didn't work says nothing about a good one that does work. I bet a bad one is one in a thousand or more. Give it a break...just get another one.
Man, there's so much about this that looks amazing with some somewhat mind-boggling omissions, especially at the price. I definitely want to still give this a look as it seems like one of the more interesting things from their new lineup of products.
One thing that I would like to see is a minimal word processor and the ability to pair with a Bluetooth keyboard. That would just be so handy for writing articles or blog posts
This!
Amazon should publish a features roadmap for this device given the lack of features. It may encourage people who bought it to keep it and encourage those on the fence to purchase.
I have a large astigmatism in one of my eyes which means reading on a screen at night is way too difficult. I picked up a kobo after one of your e-reader reviews and absolutely love it. I’m happy to see Amazon adding a pen to kindle and I can’t wait to see how e-paper keeps developing!
What settings on your Kobo helps with your Astigmatism?
@@NerdishlyActive i think it's more the fact that it's e-ink, rather than it being a kobo
Oh wow I didn’t know astigmatism caused that. Now I feel less incompetent
Kobo also has an eReader with pen support. Actually it has two of them, check out Kobo Sage and Kobo Elipsa. ;-) If you're already in the Kobo ecosystem, it might make more sense to get a Kobo device with pen support than migrate to Kindle.
I'll drop my Kindle when I can get a folding phone for under a grand.
You can. Buy second hand.
Get you a fold 3, most are in near mint condition under a G!
Surface duo 256gb for $400 on Amazon
@@TonyJenn The Duo? Wow. What'd I do to *you?* ;-)
Deals are out there. I got my Fold 3 from Best Buy for $1k off plus Verizon gave me $800 for trading in a Pixel 4XL. Device payment minus monthly bill credits and I'm making $0.08 per month on the phone
Nice review Michael. I'm using a remarkable 2 and the biggest advantage it has over the kindle or iPad is that you're disconnected from the web while focused on your writing. I use it to take extensive notes that I can sync up to my phone or pc. You can also send pdf and web articles to the R2. It serves it's purpose by keeping you focused on that one thing you need to use it for.
If it works for you, well good.
But really you're paying them (well, new customers are) to limit what you can do on your device despite it being perfectly capable of doing it. You could do what you do with any device.
I definitely feel this. Made a big deal out of the "intentional limitation" approach to tech on my Kindle Paperwhite Signature review. Just feels like a product like this, which is meant for wider use cases, deserves more capability than Amazon has chosen to include. Especially for the price.
I also thought the Remarkable app integration is superior, something you didn't get into. But core to a good note taking workflow.
The problem with devices like this is that paper and pen still has the advantage.
e-ink has to go full colour with 60hz refresh rate before it will be considered by anyone other than a niche audience of.. people who want to draw on books?
Eh?
But then... you lose the advantage of very good battery life.
So, low 'refresh rate' is not disadvantage per se, but a trade-off.
Take look at Onyx Boox Tab Ultra, it has significantly improved in terms of responsiveness/refresh rate, but, the cost, is quite worse battery life.
Still, it is at the point, where browsing internet is actually reasonable experience
after waiting a few months for scribe to arrive , it arrived today , promptly crashes and gets itself stuck in a loop updating its Os. amazon support were quite deeming and belligerent in their online chat to the point were i have hung up , raised an official complaint about the whole matter and will be shipping the scribe back to amazon tomorrow and most likely investing in kobos eclipse and converting may 500 book library !! buyer be warned !!
Early impressions.. great if you want to read kindle books on it (you can’t with the Remarkable) and the backlight is great for varying light conditions (Remarkable has no backlight) As for writing the screen/pen has no pressure sensitivity so you can’t emphasise text by pressing harder/lighter. Scribe screen does a full refresh when you use the erase which is annoying/distracting. And there are fewer pen styles to choose from
Is it just me or Michael's channel hasn't seen much spurting growth as compared to other tech channels. The script, editing and video quality is excellent as always, but the subscriber count is rather constant.
I enjoy the road trip videos Mr Mobile makes. And it would be very fun to watch him move them up a scale. Like going to Asia with a new mobile to test it out.
I would love to see a Mr. Mobile ski/split tour or hut trip!
He doesn't do enough videos.
He’s nowhere near as active enough.
I would have loved this as a digital legal pad when I was in school. I’m a firm believer in hand writing improving retention. I got by with the first GEN iPad mini, and a capacitive stylus.
I would love to know your thoughts on why non e-ink tablets weren't mentioned outside of the tablet writing, especially when it comes to price. If we're comparing practicality, a Scribe with pen is punching relatively close to a base model 10th gen ipad.
I got the 9th gen ipad for $50 less than the cheapest configuration of this brand new. This shouldn't be over $250 imo, but many will still buy at the current price I am sure.
Because… it is not eink?
Bc why would you compare e-ink tablets to regular screen tablets?
Different target audiences! This device is about quality and lasting battery.iPad is...well...iPad. 🤣
@@jayh40515 Why should this be that cheap? It has features that an iPad doesn't.
I also have the reMarkable 2 and won't be rushing to replace it with the new Kindle Scribe. I like what I saw in your review, but the biggest feature I use with reMarkable is the screen sharing. I call it my "magic white board." I use it during my software bootcamp instruction. Also, when you compare the Kindle Scribe to the vast array of eInk / Scribe devices, Kindle Scribe feels like a mere Kindle upgrade - which is probably all Amazon was shooting for, anyway. Thanks for your work, I'm subscribed, and continued success!
IMO, as long as the Kindle doesn't require an active subscription to make notes, the increased price can be argued as worth it compared to Remarkable's subscription
All right fine, you have subliminally convinced me to buy the Mathew Perry book
I love Kindle Scribe. For a table editor who needs to read manuscripts and originals, and annotate observations for reading reports, Kindle Scribe is a fantastic choice.
As someone who’s always had trouble using tablets and digital pens for art specifically *because* of the way using said pens on smooth plastic/glass feels, this Kindle almost has me hooked.
Almost.
The lack of a color display, along with a severely undercooked browser, are the two big things keeping me on the fence.
Not to mention…you know…this is Amazon we’re talking about here; I don’t wanna give my money to a company that forces its employees to work in horrendous conditions for barely-acceptable wages.
Something like this, ideally at a lower price and a slightly more portable size, would be great for me. I'm a musician and i currently write lyrics on my phone, but being able to physically write them down on something i can carry everyday would be great for me purely because i tend to be more commited when physically writing as opposed to typing. Scribbling out ink or erasing pencil lead is much more work than holding backspace, so rethinking and overthinking spur of the moment thoughts on something that emulates how annoying erasing over and over is would happen less
Look at the Boox Nova or Note models.
Weird to hear myself saying it, but ... if you can get a Surface Duo on the cheap, consider that. Not a great phone, but it has pen support and is a wonderful portable e-notebook.
Or you could get an e ink phone don’t look for kindle as the only option
The kobo sage is much smaller and has basically all the same functionalities (plus page turn keys)
I've used the remarkable and have a kobo elipsa myself. And the amazon seems to be nailing it with this one.
The remarkable is a great device with the big disadvantage that it lacks a backlight. The writing is the best I've tried on any device (it feels like a wacom tablet with a nice pen) and it has great features like projecting your eink display to your pc so you can draw on a projector or in a teams meeting. The kobo is worse in writing features and writing quality and is alot bulkier but is a more advanced ereader with a backlight. If amazon does the best of both then it is a no brainer.
These devices are great for work, its the notebook or scrap paper in front of your keyboard that you can organise at ease. Take it home and you can still read a nice book.
I also disagree with your remarks on reading on a foldable phone. E-ink displays don't strain your eyes since it is magnetic black pigment instead of light which is objectively healthier regardless of your preference.
Especially with the rise of eInk Android tablets which allow for more note options, as well as the Kindle app, this seems like a super niche and clunky product. I still don’t understand why Amazon didn’t use FireOS with this device and preload it with some stuff that a reader might want, while giving them the option to use actual Android apps.
I’m sure this product will go on sale, but as someone who takes a ton of handwritten notes for school and work, I would never be able to justify buying this device when it has so many syncing limitations, along with a god awful web interface (something critical if you want to download PDFs without the use of a separate computer or phone).
Solid points, all!
Kindle app on e-ink devices is awfuly slow!!!
kindle's OS is made from the ground-up for an e-paper/e-ink display. it's designed to make the slow refresh rate look good, and minimize distractions, whilst most android apps would perform poorly at best on such a low-refresh display, not to mention the power draw android has compared to this ultra-lightweight device. as for syncing, very valid point, you might want to see if you can get access to wifi at your school or work, which would remedy any syncing issue i could find.
@@Hittsy the syncing issue refers to the fact that a lot of PDFs that someone might want to edit and then upload are hosted on a website or through cloud storage (enterprise or personal).
For instance, my professors will post the lectures or homework in PowerPoint or PDF form on the class webpage. From there we can download them and mark up as needed. In the case of homework, we often need to upload the marked up document. On an iPad or Android tablet this is super simple and there’s no need for a separate device. On the kindle scribe this would be a much more convoluted process as it still requires using a laptop or phone to send the stuff over.
This extends to outside of academia as well. If you want to upload notes to a shared drive via an iPad, it’s usually pretty simple and can be done on device. With the Kindle scribe, this potentially involves emailing the document, then using a separate device to upload and download.
Also from my understanding, the eInk Android tablets can still have a week or longer battery life, especially when measured under the same parameters that Amazon advertises the kindle scribe battery life. It’s not amazing but a week is totally sufficient for the vast majority of people who aren’t like Appalachian trail backpackers
If you want for school leave kindle brand, kindle brand marketing for everyday person…
i'll wait for the next generation of the scribe before getting one. its a terrific step forward, it just needs some more development
great review. ive been eyeing a e-ink device I can write notes on. However, ive always found them expensive (looking at you ReMarkable2). Thought this Kindle Scribe would be the answer. However, im not sure if paying $480+ for a Scribe or if it would be better spent buying a 2018 used iPad Pro for around $400+$100 for the stylus.
I think im gonna stick with my $2 dead tree notebooks, till the e-ink notetaking devices become better
Better? Or just cheaper? ;)
Personally, I have an iPad that has a matte screen protector and a third-party stylus which cost $25 and is fantastic. I use it every day to take notes for school, as well as do homework, and the matte texture, will not precisely emulating the feel of writing on paper, does do a good enough job, considering that it only cost $8 for a two pack. It also substantially reduces glare outside.
For me electronic note taking is worth it, as an can hold all of my textbooks, notes from my entire time in university, along with other stuff specific to school. I wouldn’t recommend it for someone who is only jotting down maybe a page or two a week however.
Standard wisdom I thought was that the 2018 Pro was the worst value to buy second hand because newer iPads are cheaper and more powerful?
Almost bought one but canceled for a signature edition paperwhite with black friday discount for half the price. I wonder why they went with the big bezel at one side. Since this isnt a one hand device a 1cm bezel all around would have been better with decent protection against unwanted inputs. Or alternatively they could have gone the Oasis route. I hope they'll refresh the oasis some day.
If it's a Mr Mobile review ,I'm just gonna watch it. Period.🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Would love to see a Remarkable review next!
I absolutely love my reMarkable 2, but it would be way more useful if I could buy ebooks on it... a shame the Scribe's design isn't quite as nice though. Might wait for the Scribe 2, if they make one.
The guy's diction, vocabulary and narration is so cool. Amazing. I am buying the Kindle Scribe right away.
I love the idea, but the lack of cellular is a weirdly big omission to me. One of the best parts of the older Kindles was having the ability to just grab a book whenever you wanted from the web without the need to either have existing wifi or starting up my phone as a hotspot.
Ten years and Amazon still hasn't improved PDF support on Kindle.
and no arabic OCR also
Great review. Well balanced and practical analysis. 👊🏻👏🏻 The editorial independence peice is important and why this channel is always somewhere to go for a trusted review IMO.
I am not sure why Kindle doesn't include a speaker or headphone jack (or via USB-C) so we can use the decive for Audiable as well!! Most other e-ink tablet do include it
It supports Bluetooth for wireless headphones.
@@TheMrMobile sweet. Thanks
They used to have a headphone jack and speaker, they got rid of it in the gap between models where they flat out killed Audible support for a long while there.
Have you ever taken a gander at the tolino line of E-Readers?
They're very solid Readers by a German conglomerate of bookstores, designed to be as open and accessible as possible whilst also having great integration with the online bookshelves of the stores that created it.
Here’s a question. My SO is an artist who draws a lot on her ipad pro+apple pencil. But for some reason, she sticks to paper notebooks for notetaking. And she does a crap ton of note taking. Do you think getting her this as a gift would finally get her off of paper notebooks? Or is it closer to an ipad with pencil that she’ll end up still using paper notebooks? The problem here is archiving her notebooks. Digital is just easier and she’s lost a ton of old notebooks from termites and humidity.
At the end of the day, the Kindle Scribe is just a Kindle Paperwhite with a pen. Take away the pen and it's identical to the Paperwhite as Mr. Mobile pointed out. Just with a slightly bigger screen. While the bigger display can be nice, It also makes the Scribe far less portable. It's not as convenient to stuff into bags or smaller pocket areas as a Kindle Basic or Kindle Paperwhite.
The Kindle Scribe also doesn't offer water resistance like the Kindle Paperwhite or wireless charging like the Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition nor even the Kids functionality option the Paperwhite has. And the Paperwhite still offers note-taking abilities even without the pen. And the price of the Scribe is a lot more than the Paperwhite.
So if you plan on buying a Scribe, make sure you really want the convenience of the pen or the larger display. Because you're going to pay a whole lot more for it and it won't be quite as portable and will be heavier to hold. And you will lose the water resistance and wireless charging abilities of the Paperwhite Signature Edition.
Some people will love this device. It is a Paperwhite with a pen after all. But most will probably still stick with the Paperwhite I'm willing to bet since you still get everything the Scribe offers (Minus the pen and bigger display.)
Personally, I love the Scribe. But the pen functionality is a bit too limited. And at the end of the day, my "Paperwhite Signature Edition" does everything the Scribe does. (Again minus being able to draw and write on the display with a pen.) And the steep price is asking a bit too much.
Now if it gets new features added in with software updates then it may become worth it. But most likely the bulk of these new features will all be released as soon as the 2nd generation Scribe releases sometime in 2025. Usually, it's the 2nd generation device that finally gets all the bells and whistles.
And this is because manufacturers like Samsung, Apple, and Amazon with the Kindle all know early adopters will always run out and buy it so sales are likely a non-issue. It's the 2nd generation that brings a lot of improvements to keep the sales momentum going from the 1st generation devise because now you're dealing with the average consumer and not early adopters.
Just look at how much better the Galaxy Fold 2 was compared to the first-generation Fold. (Especially with the hinge redesign.)
I use a remarkable for college notes. Being an engineering student I have so many equations and diagrams in class that are just not practical to do through typing
|Have you seen the formula function on Samsung Notes
I have a Remarkable 2 and now it is in the drawer. I save so much paper with the Kindle Scribe (it is worth the money). Remarkable 2 problem is the screen isn't bright enough and the Kindle Scribe is bright and easy to use without a light on.
I’ve have waited so impatiently for this review! Your opinion matters, man, thanks!
Would have been interesting to know more about how good of a note-taking tool this is. Can you search through notes (with OCR)? How does it handle notebooks, archiving, etc?
thanks for showing highlighting text in a book, that's what I've been curious about (but don't see other vids showing) 3:23. At least I think that's book text and not just a pdf
That odd block shape kills this for me. I'm very intrigued by some of the color e-ink tablets too but I haven't been convinced anything is better than my Fold paired with my Tab S8 Ultra.
Interesting thought would be a foldable or dual screen device. Outer display is an S22 Ultra size and style while the inside is an e-ink with stylus support. Now THAT would be a "shut up and take my money" device and one I'd surely buy after seeing a Mr. Mobile review of.
Pretty sure they have that. Forget the phone name though. came out a couple years ago....not sure if they ever kept it up. They have had laptops as well. I'm always interested when I see them!
While I am unsure if I would ever want to buy one of these, as my Ipad is what I prefer for writing, I do like some of the things that Amazon did here. I like that they have the built in eraser feature and the fact that there is a custom button on the side to do whatever you need it to do. Lots for Apple and Samsung to learn from here even if they dont make tablets like this.
"Lots for Apple and Samsung to learn from here"? Such as? I have an iPad Pro 12.9 and there is nothing for them to learn from this from a software point of view. Hardware is a different kettle of fish though but the only differentiator is e-ink and that market has plenty of options......
@@cosmonz um, I never said anything about them learning anything on a software point at all actually. Never even said anything about the device as well. All I said was that there were a handful of things that Amazon did in the stylus that I thought Apple and Samsung should copy as they are nice features.
I just got mine today and I love it !
For my needs it's perfect
Hi. Can you tell me if it's possible transfer PDFs files from a laptop to this e-reader?
@@jousa5112 According to the reviews I've seen, yes.
I have the remarkable 2, and I'm excited for this product.
Where the remarkable 2 has fallen short is the inability to read my Kindle books.
Would love a foldable with an outside e ink screen like the yotaphone
Would love to see a comparison with Remarkable.
Amazon needs to copy the Surface Duo’s design and apply it to the Kindle. I would love a two sided kindle with eink.
I put a paper-like screen protector on my Surface Duo for that reason. =)
Amazon is offering 20% discount + $30 credit if you trade in a their 6.8 inch kindle....picked up the base version of my scribe for around $240 which made it an easier purchase.
"...graphite scraping on dead trees", LOL
Fantastic review as always. I am right now very unsure if I am going to get a scribe or if I'll stick still a bit longer with my voyage. I love to use the pen on my surface 8, but the e-ink displays are so much better for my eyes when reading before sleeping. I also use the pen on my note 20... Well, "First world problems" I guess, as long as this are my only problems I have to be really thankful.
Michael, I have an Onyx Boox Note Air 2 that does everything that the Kindle does, plus the facility of having an Android system and 64 gb, which gives me more freedom. It costs around 400 bucks. I think Amazon got a little over on the price. If this kindle costs around 250 dollars, I would consider it. But I think that there is better options right now o the market. Amazon is late on this run.
Not everything, Kindle has the best display by far in this size category (300 ppi) and the point of e-readers is providing distraction free reading, no point in having a full Android system with horrible app display and response.
@@randomuser5237 thank you for the reply. Indeed, the Kindle does have a better screen, but that’s it. My Note Air is my e-reader, and I don’t complain about the quality of the screen. And the facility to get other archives (like mangas) on the android is a no-brainer for me. But, everyone has a need, right? I’m used to the Android system on it, and right now, getting a Kindle would be a downgrade for me. But, if you never had an e-reader with a stylus, and don’t miss the other features, it’s a good choice. But I still think it is a bit overpriced.
I would be curious about your thoughts on a foldable Scribe (or Remarkable or Boox or Supernote or whatever else). Would having a book on one side and notes on the other, or two screens to allow for better emulation of the pages of a book, etc. be enough to make you want a dedicated reading/note taking device apart from your phone?
There are 13.3 e-ink readers out there also. It would be awesome if you could review Max Lumi 2. Thanks!
from your comment, i got to know that, Amazon kindle is not the only one, amazon must concern towards all availability tech rather than marketing.
how does this compare to a remarkable 2?
I saw you had a folding phone, you might want to upgrade in the future to the surface duo line. It’s so much better.
Its too good.
@@Mf_Cooldawg I don’t know if that’s a complement or an attack?
what’s the name of the tablet that has a color ink display?
Onyx Boox Nova Air C...mouthful name
My ereader selection is purely ecosystem based, since as a Canadian I can connect to my library and like the ability to sideload I generally go to Kobo
Not interested in kindles but still liked the video and let it run in the background because you deserve it.
You missed the target. You should have talked about how large the system font can get, and if it'll play spider solitaire.
4:25 - So, you don't read (aside FB, Twitter or very occasional web site or blog - I read web content longer than a screenful by sending it to Kindle.) Otherwise, you would realize that e-readers belong to a completely different category from tablets and smartphones. I _do_ understand that your folding phone bridges the gap between smartphone and tablet - that's why those complex beasts are there. But read a novel in one or two sittings - you wont do that on your foldable phone. You will either get a proper e-paper based reader (not necessarily Kindle), or go for a good old DTB.
that said, I _do_ agree that Amazon kind of stopped halfway with Scribe.
Will. you do an update about the new features?
Feels weird to see a sorta onyx boox note air knock off. I bought that like a year ago and love it, but I can see how the experience might be a step more but you get full Android in return with almost endless possibilities
Hello Michael. Can it share screen (mirroring screen)? Thanks!
There’s also the ReMarkable. Think you can give it a look, Michael?
You have been the best tech reviewer in 2022 🔥.
Mine is coming tomorrow - hopefully.
Heck yea I get mine Friday!!! Glad you did a review 🎉
Neat! Kindle and eDiary with pen support . I would of loved this as a kid
Top quality content as usual sir
Can you highlight on pictures with the kindle scribe? I have some photos that id love to highlight on the kindle, pictures of my textbook.
Can one write, sign and easy (few steps/ idiot proof) save on the home network? Thanks for your avant garde gadgets and reviews!
Really vining with that cool denim jacket thing you’ve got….where do I get one?
I genuinely wish I had a reason to use something like this, but I NEVER have to write anything. Maybe once or twice a year will I have to actually write something. Kinda makes me sad. Wish this thing was around when I was in school.
thanks i was thinking of buying one.
Convenience of amazon store doesn't matter to me since i will mostly be transferring pdfs. Is it still better than other e-readers?
If you're not buying it for the Amazon ecosystem, there are competitive offerings from Onyx (Boox), reMarkable, etc.
Why would you buy this for reading and annotating pdfs. Text size adjustments, text reflow, scrolling vertically and horizontally, displaying scientific and mathematical notations are something that can never be comfortable with an e-ink display.
@@TheMrMobile thanks man
Thank you...
Is it Andriod based or Unix? And if its Andriod based, can you download apps from the store?
Is the tip of the pen ceramic (lifetime no need to be replaced)?
I am currently using SuperNote, which is Andriod based but limited access to apps to be installed (which I am ok with) but want to know if the Kindle is a better option, being a Kindle user since Kindle started.
the Kindle runs Linux. you can jailbreak it, but only when you’re on a software version that’s supported by a jailbreak. (the best way to do this is to stick around on as low a firmware as possible, and keep an eye out for the latest exploits on MobileRead.) once there’s a jailbreak, you can run whatever you want on the Kindle - alternative readers, apps, or even a full Linux installation, complete with Google Chrome and package repositories, for… whatever you’d possibly want that for!
@@fkyuga Thanks for the info. Was hoping Kindle would move to Andriod with the Scribe.
I'd like to see this kindle price compared to other drawing tablet prices
In the EU it compares like this:
Kindle Scribe (64gb, premium pencil, no folio): 450€
- 430g
Remarkable 2 (8gb, marker plus, no folio): 478€
- 403g
- not compatible with kindle
Huawei Matepad Paper (64gb, M-Pencil, folio included): 450€
- 360g
- capable processor, solid audio, normal tablet functionality
- the downside: batteries will be consumed much faster
@@georgvonrechenberg2217 basically no competition in the U.S. then, because Huawei isn't available America and remarkable seems like a downgrade
@@ZverseZ there is also the Onyx Boox note air 2 plus which seems to be a great reader/Notepad tablet and runs android 11.
It's 479$ right now and seems to be as a complete package as the matepad paper plus having a better stylus. Only downside: with 445 it's the most heavy option.
I understand that this product is applicable to someone’s use case, but the giant wooly mammoth in the room is the base model iPad.
My problem with Kindle has always been forced DRM and lock in.
I so want something like this with a full fledged color screen. Would be awesome for comics AND notes 🤩
Wait. You can use the pen to highlight books ? I think I saw that
So how does it relate to the remarkable then?
Does Scribe feel better to write on as compared to reMarkable?
I have no direct experience with ReMarkable, so I can't say. Kindle Scribe feels incredible to write on though, as noted
Kindle forever after.
A tablet or phone is not even comparable for me.
The whole experience is much better.
I personally prefer the small kindle for reading. Best dimensions for the job.
But the big one could come in handy in certain tasks
I agree with you on the unambitious part hope in 2 or 3 years the new iteration will be worth the price
The Display coating on my Kindle scribe comes off in the upper left corner after only 24 hours and without transporting the kindle. and the notes app has hung up several times with an error message. very strange.
I like these kind of e readers but money has been an issue so far, but still on the to buy list, as always great video
Can't unsee the smiley on the back of the kindle :)
As a remarkable 2 owner I kinda hope Amazon buries remarkable with the kindle scribe. My issue with remarkable has always been that I can’t really read anything other than pdfs on it….which is not what I really wanted when I bought remarkable. It was good but rather than update to a remarkable 3 I’ll be getting the scribe. Now I can read all my ebooks
I feel as though this to high praise of this kindle is a lack of knowing the competitors like Boox or Remarkable and various other better competitors
Enjoyed the review so much that I didn’t fast forward the commercial 😂
Thanks for the great reviews. If im ever interested in a product i look to see if have reviewed it first. Thanks for your videos.
the big question for me is
can it run ms office smoothly??
at least word and one note
if yes, then i'll buy it
Hey what is the name of the theme you're using on your Chrome browser ?
Does the Kindle Scribe have Wacom EMR stylus support?
hey, where can i find the wallpaper that you are using on s22 ultra??
Is there any support for 3rd party notes app such as Onenote, Evernote, etc. I've currently a student and already years deep into those apps.
@mrmobile thanks for the review! I suggest looking at the boox line up. I have the note 2 plus and it’s fantastic. The new Ultra looks miles ahead of the Kindle.
Does this also work with audible books like the oasis?
I want nothing to do with the Amazon system, but I still had to watch it just because these reviews are so well made! It's soothing for the soul.