Amazon Kindle Scribe vs Remarkable 2 | The Showdown
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- The Remarkable 2 is the gold standard when it comes to the worlds most popular digital writing slate. Will this change with the advent of the Amazon Kindle Scribe? In this video, we take a look at the writing and reading experience on both devices. Will the Remarkable be dethroned by the Scribe?
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I have recently got the Kindle Scribe. I also am a Kindle reader. But I'm also someone who enjoys writing for a hobby, and it has served me well so far. I very much enjoy using it. The note taking/writing aspect on the Kindle Scribe feels great! The pen to "paper" feel is amazing and satisfying. Never thought I'd ever say that as I've always been the old skool pen to paper kind of gal. But this is great. No paper or pen waste! I can relax and read books whenever and then if I want to write some thoughts or whatever notes, I can do that too on the same device. I could do that with my tablet, which is what made me a little apprehensive at first, I can do all of that on my Samsung Tablet but I wanted something with no distractions. I get distracted quite easily. On this device, no pop ups. Just full focus on myself. I have depression and anxiety, but this helps me not feel overwhelmed and just think of my own enjoyment. :)
For my personal experience for a casual user, I can definitely say, Kindle Scribe is a great device. I have never used Remarkable 2. But I can attest to the Kindle Scribe!
Scribe also has LED backlight for reading/writing in low light, which is huge. RM2 has no light. Can't believe that didnt grt mentioned.
If you're not familiar with it, look up malacular degeneration. It's an irreversible condition caused by screen and monitor back lights. Your eyes get badly affected and your vision seriously deteriorates. But if youre not directly staring into the light, you're safe. So, using say an overhead light or a desk lamp on say a book or an R2 would protect you. That's why although it is inconvenient at times, in the round, I support the R2 not having this option. Cases of malacular degeneration are expected to rocket.
Thanks for the in-depth review. As a reMarkable 2 user, I'm very pleased about the latest firmware that enables unlimited canvas size by just zooming out with fingers, and also the capabilities of Google / OneDrive integrations etc. I also use the cut-and-paste, then move and resize the pasted contents a lot to organize my thoughts in the right sequence. It's truly focused on creating the best note-taking experience, and the team there keeps on adding new features in every release... just to justify the need to pay them a monthly fee by new users.
Comparatively, if you consume a lot of eBooks in the Kindle ecosystem (I do own a Kindle Oasis), rely on their tools (translation, sticky notes, and see what others have highlighted in the same book etc.), and you also want a larger screen to consume A4-size contents like magazines, with fairly occasional note-taking capabilities, Kindle Scribe would be a device for you. However, Kindle Scribe would be a heavier device than reMarkable 2 and so bear in mind its portability and whether its large screen and weight may put you off when using it as a eBook reader... just like whether you like holding a larger book to read all the time. Comparatively, reMarkable 2 has slightly taller layout and lighter weight, its usable screen size is slightly smaller than an A4 paper which makes it perfect for note-taking in meetings as most of the time you put it down and use it on a flat surface. Kindle Scribe may not fall short in that regards and could still be a good note-taking tool; just that if you are a heavy note-taker (e.g. you have a lot of business meetings to attend etc.), you will definitely appreciate the vast variety of tools and the distraction-free experience that reMarkable has to offer.
So after all, it all depends on your usage and priority on which one suits you better. It's not apple-to-apple comparison as both devices focus on slightly different market segments.
The Kindle Scribe does have one advantage for note-taking in certain situations, though: the backlight.
Amazons little fight with google is going to kill them. I won't get any device which makes accessing drive anything less than instantaneous.
@@OneKnifeYeHand Yes! I'm watching this video because I'm getting really tired of the lack of a backlight on the reMarkable.
Which would you say is better for taking notes on books while reading and maybe exporting then? This is the primary use I'm looking for
To summarize:
- You want to make notes (not on books): Remarkable
- You want notes on books?: Kindle
- You want to read books?: Kindle, but probably the smaller versions would be better coz you can hold them with one hand
- You already have a kindle and just want note-taking?: Remarkable. I dont think it's worth spending another 300-600$ to buy another kindle just to take notes with a pencil on a much bigger device that you can't hold with your one hand.
The remarkable 2 did not have all the features in the beginning. Hopefully, Amazon kindle scribe will update the software to have those cool features like remarkable 2.
Fat chance. Jeff Bezos doesn’t have enough yachts. Expect any updates to be included in a new device.
@@bob_the_bomb4508 I had a kindle paperwhite 2nd gen, and the transformation it went through over the 7 years I have had it has been amazing. I got about 6 years of updates on it. I think that the new features will be added, and that this is to gain market space.
@@johnpaulunderhill1388 so please me tell if I do purchase Kindle scribe is it possible to get future software update for writing improvement because I want a reading writing e-ink device with me most of the time
@@ritwikdebnath1369 I cannot predict the future, but I can say that the device will have updates just the same as other kindles, and I would be astonished if it did not receive any updates that improved the writing features.
The remarkable is a joke. It’s awful. Crap import export. Crap UI. SLOW AF. Subscription model and crap customer service
I still use my 2nd-gen DX at times just because it's the only larger e-ink device I own and I find it useful for PDFs. It's definitely time for me to take the plunge and get a comparably-sized modern device with stylus support, and this comparison series is really helpful. Thank you.
The Scribe is now the best Kindle book/ Audible reader/player with an added decent note/drawing ability, the Remarkable is an ok ePub reader, crucially missing the Kindle and Audible ecosystem but it is a superior drawing and note taker. The Remarkable was designed to remove all distractions and replace a notepad or a sketchpad.
It's crazy that the remarkable 2 is so good still 2 years later. 300ppi screen and kindle store does it for me. I've had my scribe for several days now and I love it.
can you pair a bluetooth keyboard to it type into your notes?
I think the only Main thing that the Scribe is missing, is Handwriting recognition... so, you can search notes. Other than that...I don't think pressure sensitivity or tilt is important for the Scribe. I think they are selling this as a large e-reader with a built-in note pad.
Yes, exactly my thoughts. They are selling it as a E-Reader with a built-in note pad, not an E-note
@@habibhassan7770 Amazon is selling a beta device... Focus on buying and buying in their store.
@@Maisonier :( I was really really looking forward to this but because the lack of usability for things like pdf, note taking etc I am disappointed. Will wait for some software updates and then will get it
@@Maisonier It's a first-gen device (with regards to the e-note taking), so of course it's not perfect yet. Everyone keeps rambling about the RM2, but they all forgot that the RM1 felt exactly like a first-gen product too, because it was. The Scribe will get software updates and the Scribe 2 will probably get more pressure sensitivity.
A lot of features the Scribe was missing has been added, like handwriting to text, selection tool.
I suppose it is important to compare it with other devices so that people fully understand what the scribe is all about. I really like you description of the scribe being a notepad. That simplicity is a good thing if you know that is all it does. I still would not go for the remarkable because of the restrictions and subscription they demand from users.
I don't know if this was an update Amazon pushed to the Scribe, but a lot of the features he said that the Scribe didn't have on the note taking side, it definitely does now (pen sensitivity, the ability to write/shade with the side of the pen tip, etc.)
Thank you for the comparison. Been following your reviews for many years. Still hoping e-ink will have its 'break out moment'
Ordered a scribe when it was announced. My take away here is - So the scribe is large ebook reader with +some+ note taking options and the remarkable is a large note taking device with +some+ ebook reader features. I guess the decision comes down to which of the dominant features is your main requirement.
@@bluein2red423 that is interesting. I was put off by the price of the first remarkable. Even used here they were €700 a couple of years ago. I nearly pulled the trigger on the rm2 when they seemed more reasonably priced. But then when you add the marker, case etc it started getting pricey for just note taking . Had I dug more into it and found out about the ecosystem (although am I right that the root acces is more recent?) then I may have bought one, I am a linux boy after all. However I do feel that the scribe being an ereader means I will get more utility from it. I have so many paper notebooks that iwm convinced one day I will write in!
If I’m hearing right, it’s a very good large screen ereader but falls short in the note taking category. The Remarkable 2 is the by far better device for that. So as usual, pick the device that meets your need. The really only great advance is the 300 ppi, a first in that size screen.
Pick the one with the better hardware. Because software always improves via updates. Scribe has the better hardware
@@ch3ckm8 Except Amazon has no motivation to further develop their note-taking software beyond just a quick note-pad rather than a full-blown notebook system like Remarkable has. They aren't trying to sell it as a notebook, they're selling it as an E-Reader that can take a few notes and write in your books to sell their Kindle service. There's no reason for them to compete with Remarkable, Kindle Unlimited is their money maker, not even the device itself
So, specifically about the note-taking features, I'm imagining that Amazon's Kindle team see reMarkable 2 and Kobo Elipsa as the primary competitors to Kindle Scribe, which would also give me an idea of the next features they'd implement in the next firmware updates, but at the same time, they'd likely roll them out alongside bug fix updates for the other currently supported models.
I'm also surprised that reMarkable 2 pen tilt works with third-party pens.
Newest Kindle software seems to be leaps ahead of the video.. i'm not sure how the remarkable it updated, but Kindle has come along way...
Great review. These devices are getting so much more usable than they were just a few years ago.
I don't usually go for notes on my devices (ebook, tablet), but I am currently reading a book on self organization for people with ADHD, and I think making a hand note on a device might be a useful experience
FYI - you don't have to pay to use the original Remarkable 2 features anymore (e.g. send to email, convert to text, etc). Those are all now available without any subscription. The Kindle Scribe honestly reminds me a lot of the Kobo Elipsa - an excellent large-screen eReader with frankly subpar writing capabilities. If you're looking for a proper eink writing tablet where you can organize notebooks, have a file structure, copy & paste text and images, layer with templates and do basically whatever you want with the content that you draw, you're going to want a dedicated writer and not an ereader. The Kobo Elipsa kind of flopped and I suspect this will too.
One big disadvantage of remarkable . Its super thin and very light but very fragile. When using it I always felt nervous and worried about dropping it . I actually had to reach out to them when I bought mine a few months after buying it, the charger couldn't connect properly and wasn't able to use after the battery died. I was given a replacement with no extra fees so I was happy about that. I really like the remarkable for what it is and hope they release one in the future with built in light as well as Bluetooth compatible to connect with a keyboard. A built in dictionary would be amazing as well .
We have had a few remarkables break over the years just in our offices across our five locations ourselves. It is quite brittle
Another great video, Peter. Thanks for sharing your views, and perspectives, about the Kindle Scribe versus the reMarkable 2 tablet. I cannot wait for reMarkable to release their 3rd version of an electronic tablet later this year...
remarkable is always going to be different in a special way. Its less powerful. But they really want to make the user experience good, after 10min you can figure out how to do everything. The software is so modern and clean. When users don't like something they fix it, they messed up with connect, they fixed it and added new features. To me, it doesn't matter remarkable has one of the best looking os. 2 different view point, all other tablets try to replace your tablet but fall short. reMarkable is just paper with digital powers, Focus not replacing your laptop or tablet.
I think it comes to Remarkable if you want advanced note taking features and Scribe if you want a better reader
I have to say hats off to Amazon for this device. I'm switching from my Remarkable Mark 1 to this. I held off from buying the Remarkable 2 as it could not use Kindle. The only missing killer feature from that device. Also it usually makes sense to skip one generation between upgrades so they will lose my sale this time. I would buy the Remarkable 3 eventually provided they really beef it up, speed it up and give us even more advanced drawing ability. (It is already the industry best) and I can't wait to see what they do next. If they can move Remarkable to Linux and just make the OS they use now a Linux app then that would be something...we could then use thousands of Linux apps as well as KINDLE. Then they would beat the Scribe.
You can install Linux on the Remarkable yourself. Not sure if that applied to the 1 or 2, but I know that one of them has the ability.
So generally speaking Scribe provides nice hand writing feeling and e-reading quality. Agree with Jay that this is a larger e-reader with a built in note pad. However to be as a e-note, no hand writing recognition, no pdf auto-edge-cut, no pdf re-composing and translation, etc.. Guess I would return it..😢
Have made a printscreen and measured black and white areas on both devices. Remarkable 2 still has better contrast. The blacks are darker, the whites are brighter.
Best in-depth review as always! Thanks Peter
If the Kindle scribe was available in my country, I would buy it immediately.
I think the biggest "problem" for the Kindle Scribe is keeping the ecossystem closed, this could delay some implementations because they want to make their way and not the way that already exists, like the time they took to accept epub on the kindle mail.
I live in Brazil and the only device that I can buy here with warranty is the Kindle, I like the device and if they launch the Scribe here and I have the money by the time, I would buy the device, but these proprietary things pisses me off sometimes.
The Scribe looks so much better that the Remarkable from the actual design of the device, it's a shame it seems to lack behind it from all the features that count.
Are we looking at the same device..when are giant bezels a great design aesthetic?
Nearly all manufacturers in the e-reader business make devices with large bezels
These are not smartphones
This is not new information
Just saw a Remarkable ad, I'm a gadget nut always looking to blow some money, so thought I'd give it a look. Unfortunately, as much as I'd like a new toy, I personally couldn't justify buying either of these. I read a lot of music e-books with audio links. With all of the limitations described between the Scribe and the Remarkable, I think I'll stick with my iPad Pro 12.9, Notability, and Kindle apps. Not to mention that I also have a regular Kindle for reading content without media files.
Really excited about this new Amazon device. I take a lot of notes when reading books... Hope the pen is as good as Remarkable
Thank you for the review!
I struggle to see the Niche where the scribe fits in. Part of the joys of a kindle ereader is the small form factor and portability. Yes, the scribe still has an e-ink display, but a basic iPad with a “paper like” screen protector is far more functional for note taking and even drawing/designing and is similar in price to a scribe. I would have to try a scribe out for free to see if I like it more or less than an iPad which performs the same and more function.
But the iPad isn’t a great reader. Not fresh for your eyes. And even with Paperlike, the writing experience on an IPad sucks compared to a Remarkable, Kindle Scribe, SuperNote. I have all of them.
I'll be getting my Scribe in s couple of weeks. Looking forward to it for sure.
I really didn't understand what qualities the Remarkable had that made it so good at note taking. The writing changes shades depending on pressure? I never want it to when I'm writing. Only improvements I'd like to see. Calendar, schedule planner, Index marker for long notes, and hand writing to text converter.
It's time for Remarkable 3, Remarkable. Change what you have into a Linux app and run your version 3 on Linux so we can have the full Kindle reader experience. What are you doing? nearly 3 years since your last release.
I never tried a device like this, what I don't like much is Amazon boundaries for files extensions and their own store.
I originally got a Remarkable because I wanted to read books for school (textbooks). But my remarkable was so flawed. The pen barely worked. The notes didn't work. I just had nonstop issues and their customer support was horrible. Thinking of trying t he scribe or Boox out now.
Had the same experience. It's horribly slow, so I just sold mine and returned to pen and paper. For reading I use a kindle.
I went with the Onyx Boox Tab Ultra a few weeks back and really enjoying it. It's not perfect, but a great note taker and ereader and android tablet all in one, so I enjoy all the reading and writing options it gives. Plus the writing on the screen is outstanding.
You could have almost bought both of these devices for the price of that one!
*sniff, sniff*
... Do I smell... Competition?!
Honestly it's actually a hard choice between the two. The resolution and better kindle-reading on, well, the kindle, is tempting, but then the Remarkable's note-taking abilities are light-years ahead so far, despite the lower resolution.
I don't mind greatly having to convert reading material to PDF to read it on the R2. No back light isn't a deal killer either, it's bad for the eyes. But the actual on the screen reading experience, has to be right up there with the best, at this price point. Being a great note taker with a merely okay reading experience, just doesn't cut it for the money.
I was more curious about the Kindle vs Onyx Boox Note Air 2.
The Scribe looks interesting but it really needs a lot more cooking.
As far as I'm concerned the very least I expect of a digital notebook is being able to rearrange notes (cut/paste/move regions), which is one of their biggest advantages over paper.
Although I'm not a fan of the not-really-paper-like feeling so I guess I'm skipping it even if they add the missing features.
True, we see a lot of ads for remarkable
There was one right before this video began. 😄
after waiting a few months for scribe to arrive , it arrived today , promptly crashes and gets itself stuck in a loop updating its Os. amazon support were quite deeming and belligerent in their online chat to the point were i have hung up , raised an official complaint about the whole matter and will be shipping the scribe back to amazon tomorrow and most likely investing in kobos eclipse and converting may 500 book library !! buyer be warned !!
Amazing review! Which one would be best for a study notebook?
Amazing review 👍🏻 want to have these to get my book reading habit back and read in between class breaks.
You have a very straight gaze into the camera. Lol. By the way, readers find these Mediatek-powered Kindle devices to be really fascinating.
Thank you! Helped me loads! I will go with Kindle!
Good comparison. Either one would be a good tools for taking notes.
can i open an ebook and write my own notes in the book the same way as u would with a pdf imported into microsoft note ? or can i just mark words in the book ?
Great review!! Keep going making fantastic videos. Cheers from Argentina!!
You forgot to mention the biggest difference:
Kindle Scribe has backlight and warm light support. Remarkable 2 has no backlight at all.
Yes I know, we have mentioned the lack of glow light on the remarkable countless times. We have nearly 3,000 videos on our Channel :-)
@@goodereader I think the Remarkable 2 has better writing experience because of the lower latency. They didn't use backlight for a reason.
The backlight in the Scribe requires a thicker layer screen which resulted in a slightly worse writing experience. It's a tradeoff, but I think it's worth it.
Thanks Peter! I've already ordered my Sribe, so, let me try it :)
So hard to find a good e-reader. So many good choices out there
Thank you for this. I know this calls for speculation... do you guys think that Amazon will issue software updates that will enhance the note taking experience?
Pointer Usage - When you have gloves on your hand & if you want to use it for pointing, you can do it using the Pen & doesn't need to remove the Glove
Yeah we kind of got to the bottom of that during our live event
Thank you for doing all of these helpful videos!
Thank you for the great review. I have been thinking for a while to get a digital notebook for myself. I really like the posibility to study, draw and take notes and have everything organized while being confortable. I own a kindle that is great for reading but not so much to study with PDFs. What I miss on the Scribe is the layer feature because I would like to also use it as a sketchbook. I'm waiting a little bit to see if I can get an used one or get a sale since right now I can't afford it. Do you know any good / cheaper alternatives?
Which e-reader/ note take would some recommend: I want to use the device for 2 purposes. 1) Read and highlight passages and take notes of those passages. 2) Use the device for morning pages. (writing 3 sides of A3 paper notes every morning) which one would you recommend? thank you.
i got the scribe a week or so ago and very happy with it
It is really interesting to see all the comparisons on TH-cam Scribe Vs Remarkable, Scribe Vs iPad even. But what about the Boox Tab Ultra? Is this part of the embargo deal?
thanks for the review. it looks like an amazing device, but i am just not sure where it fits in for me. also, at some point there has to be a better way to get stuff in an out of the device, and i just think the Amazon software is just a bit clunky. i love my Kindle as a reader, it is probably one of the best devices i have ever purchased. i just hope they start to improve a somewhat stale software experience.
I was going to comment on your first Scribe video how it compares to the remarkable . Thank you
Yeah for sure. We had to let the review rest a bit
I've just one for someone who prefers reading paper books and doesn't like the size of regular kindles - too small, she says. I hope that a shared Kindle library will help her see benefits of reading ebooks more :)
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Imagine if Amazon and Remarkable worked together on a device...wow! Perhaps Amazon should buy Remarkable out and then offer a few of these. Perhaps A5 (half current size), A4 (current size) and A3 (double current size). They could do 2 models in each size, standard and pro. The standard would be like the scribe, and the pro could add the Remarkable's advanced sketching and drawing tech as well as the Remarkables more evolved feature set. That would be the ultimate version of this device.
Amazon buying Remarkable is a terrible idea. Amazon is a giant company, and they aren't selling the Kindle scribe to be a note taking device, they're selling it to sell their Kindle service. They really have no motivation to improve note-taking, because they aren't even trying to compete with Remarkable. The way these things are priced, I'm certain Amazon is losing money with these devices, E-Ink technology is expensive. Same way Xbox and Playstation lose money on their consoles, they make back with subscriptions.
Wait!!! A monthly fee. That’s a deal breaker especially with the new Remarkable Pro (colour)
The Remarkable is done. Yes, the drawing experience may be better with more types of pens and features like tilt, feathering etc. However, you are not getting an e-ink device to draw. If you want to draw, you do it on devices like an iPad. You use e-ink devices to read, write, take notes, etc. And the Scribe is good enough. Now you add the Amazon ecosystem, Kindle books, etc. means again the Remarkable is done. At most it will just be a niche player
Althouth I applaud Kindle for creating such a device, it is, a note taking device for people who want a Kindle... having owned a Boox for 2 years now, I don't see myself going back to the Kindle OS
Does the Remarkable still require a subscription?
Amazon is usually best with Amazon prime.
so just to clarify, i can see all of my notes in one book at the same time by going to references?
Aside from both hardware, I like this kind of review. I dont need to go to hardware store to experience it.
The Supernote A5X / A5X2 is vastly superior than the Remarkable 2 as a note taker, usability, tools, notes management etc.
Any idea if kindle scribe will be sold in Mexico?
thanks. a very useful comparison.
I just wish Amazon had a color version of the Scribe.
For Note Taking Purpose, I Will Choose Remarkable 2
You did not go into the ecosystem of each device. Remarkable has apps for IOS and Android. The Scribe makes use of its Kindle app in pretty much the same way. Remarkable is in beta for version 3 of its software. Scribe is promising integration with Microsoft Word. Both can email pdfs of their notes. I own both and am testing over time. The front light on the Kindle is the reason I bought it. There is still a simplicity of purpose that I like about the Remarkable. Much of it comes down to the needs of the user and whether Remarkable can survive the oncoming of the Scribe as it matures. I hope it can.
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Hi I have a question. I’m writing a book on a MacBook and would like to send the file to a device such as a remarkable or a scribe and continue ‘writing’ while in bed. (Then back it up on the laptop) do you have a recommendation on which device would best suit this scenario
Unfortunately no access to Scribd on either.
With inflation I've become much more careful of what I buy, so thanks for making such a good comparison!
My husband's kindle DX has gotten so that the batter doesn't last very long. So, when I saw this Kindle Scribe, I didn't even think . . . it's a lighted screen with 300 dpi . . . bought it immediately!
Christmas for him is DONE! I'll see whether he likes the note taking, but for anyone that reads textbooks . . . this is a no brainer.
I borrowed a remarkable from a friend for him to try, but he didn't like it because he couldn't access is Amazon Docs.
Can any of the two devices allow you to email a document? For example if I sign a document on them, can I sign and send via email?
The point of using the pointer rather than your finger is so you don't have to put the pen down. it would also help with certain disabilities brother.
thank you - everything I needed to know is here! :)
Awesome!
Oh Man i want both can’t decide
The baby is going to be a beast for manga.
Can I draw and edit electronics schematics or music sheet music on the Amazon?
I'm sure Amazon will add features to the Scribe. Maybe it's time I buy a Kindle
For me charging is a small price to pay for good color and high refresh rate.
I generally go with hard cover books but that's just too much space consuming.
Remarkable 2 all the way!
Can someone explain why is the Remarkable not a good reader? It feels so counterintuitive, and people announce that as a fact.
The scribe is so good!!
But alas it is not available on Amazon India.
Great review, thank you!
i didnt like the quick notes on the scribe, you should be able to write onto the book directly thatd be cool
Lord Both these big screens would make great ereaders for me - I have visual processing impairments.
Love that Remarkable, although a bit expensive for my wallet. But that's not why I'm commenting here. The 🔥 HD is mine! MUAHAHA!
Good info. I am not going to bother choose between the two. I will get the remarkable for writing and the kindle for reading e-books. Period! :-)
Hey the Scribe is the new kid on the block. It will get better with time.
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Thank you for this video.