TEE 2.0: The Future of European Passenger Rail Transport?
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- Today, Railways Explained team discusses German proposal to re-establish the network of EU international long-distance high-speed passenger trains - the so-called Trans-Europe Express 2.0 or just TEE 2.0.
But, what was the TEE 1.0?
For younger part of our viewers, it was a network of fast and comfortable international trains that existed in Europe from 1957 to 1995, connecting only major cities, and mostly dedicated to business class passengers.
It was followed by the attempts to syncronize rules, standards and procedures of different European countries in order to enable faster travel times, but it also had significant impact on the development of modern rolling stock.
At the peak of its operation (1974), the TEE network comprised 45 trains connecting 130 different cities, from Spain in the west to Austria in the east, from Denmark in the north to the Italy in the south.
However, if you thought Europe will never see TEE trains again, you may be wrong…
In this video, we are also trying to present a proposal for TEE 2.0, as part of the wider EU agenda to combat climate change (EU Green deal), and, in the light of the activities of European Commission that recently marked the 2021 as the year of rail.
We presented and discussed both, the TEE and the TEE 2.0, presented proposed train routes, explained the impacts and the potentials of these concepts, and finally, we gave our opion on their future.
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What do you guys think about the proposal for TEE 2.0?
If this was proposed by anyone but Scheuer, I'd have more hopes ...
@@KaiHenningsen lol what's wrong with him? is this some kind of EU joke that im too Chinese to understand?
I'd like just an expansion of the eurocity trains, not create another brand. Why would you do that?
@@signodeinterrogacion8361 Customized TEE rolling stock is quite nice wearing only one livery not 5 and the 1 out of the 5 railway companies could run into a financial situation and discontinue part of the network that were once theirs and creating another brand would mean that they only use the infrastructure but not the rolling stock and stuff
@@timlilijinsheng4070 he's known for not getting things done :)
The Eurostar services need to become part of this as well.
And more importantly:
Modern trains using the old TEE colour scheme!
Yesssssss 😍
I'm all for trains having their own unique look, that represent the class and the type of people traveling throughout Europe..
Those old European passenger trains are beautiful!
The Settebello especially is gorgeous! Its design reminds me of the old Odakyu RomanceCar engine.
Too bad they don't build them anymore. :-(
@@wyqtor they actually rescued an old settebello train and completely refurbished it
You come from a broke country?
Rendezvous on Champs-Elysees
Leave Paris in the morning with T.E.E.
From station to station, back to Düsseldorf City
Meet Iggy Pop and David Bowie
At Vienna we sit a late night cafe!
Kraftwerk….
TEE 2.0 annouced: oh, yes!
The idea was proposed by the current German minister of transport: oh no!
The idea hevily relies on German infrastructure newbuilds: *OH NO!*
Luckily the government is changing now, so there's a small chance ...
Oh, who am I kidding? Our grandchildren might be able to enjoy it though.
Its of course discussed with other member states.
Well the German Railways own the rights for TEE and also germany is like the heart of european railways.
These news make me hope that there existed in EU landroute(or a tunnel) to Finland so I could enjoy trans-Europe trains.
it might be possible to do a train ferry to Tallinn or to go through Russia, or to go north to sweden
Rail Baltica might include a rail tunnel between Tallinn and Helsinki as part of its route. From Tallinn, trains then make their way to Warsaw via Riga and Kaunas on a brand new standard gauge line.
@@bahnspotterEU If that ever happens I will be happy and maybe have enough time left to use it before I die.
7:55 I know I am a bit annoying but back then it was called “Deutsche Bundesbahn“
You are right, don't take it for bad 😊
Wow. That Settebello train looks awesome.
Indeed.
All I gotta say is that these trains look cool asf. I love the 60s space age aesthetic on trains. Makes them look really iconic.
Great video! Could you guys do one on AVE, the second largest HSR network in the world? There are no good English language videos on it. English language print media seems to only discuss its costs
That could be the topic some day, definitely 🙂
Great plan, but I'd love to see a north - south line on the east. Something from Budapest, through Vienna, Poland, Lithuania and maybe even up to the Baltic Nations.
And use Rail Baltica and the proposed Tallinn-Helsinki tunnel to end its journey in Helsinki.
@@GustavSvard I knew about Rail Baltica, but the Tallinn - Helsinki tunnel is a new one for me. The longest rail tunnel in the world? A connection between the EU and Finland more than 10 times quickier? YES PLEASE!
4:31: "One such train was Italian 'Settebello', introduced in 1953 and included as TEE in 1947."
Did it have a flux capacitor?
add 1.21 gigawatts and you have an intertime train service.
Rotterdam - Zürich HB should be a TEE / TEE-N line too. since i would use it alot.
Ah, the new intro tune is much better!
Thank you. And what do you think about the new logo? 😁
Aww. I loved the old tune better. But the new logo is awesome
@@RailwaysExplained Æ
Until the different governments work together to offer AFFORDABLE train travel this is not going to be appealing.
I can fly across the continent for 30 EUR on a cheap easyJet flight, but I pay 28 EUR to travel the 60 km to my closest airport.
That should tell you that flight prices are simply too low. I hope that this will change with the introduction of the new CO2 pricing schemes.
because air travel is heavily subsidized. and trains arent. But wait when they take the subsidies of oil gas and air travel away, and they will put some of that money towards train travel. short distance ar travel becomes suddenly very expensive as it should as aircraft make a terrible noise when they fly overhead above neighbourhoods before they make the landing. de-subsidize oil gas and air travel ( only make continental flights affordable ) subsidize trains, and there you go suddenly everyone will take the train.
This is so interesting. I think you deserve so much more attention!
Dass der Scheuer mal ne gute Idee hat hätte ich niemals gedacht.
Thank you. Resurrection of TEE and Euro-night trains is absolutely necessary.
The TEE lives on my HO Marklin layout! I missed out on the original TEE...TEE 2.0 would be attractive...however I did travel on the overnight TEN! It was very comfortable and service was done by CIWL...
9:37 Oh well Andi. The service will be a failure if that guy is anywhere near it.
Scheiss scheuer
Content: European railways
1:06 Showing the dirtiest subway system in the very non-European country whose national passenger railway transport system is essentially disfunctional.
Hahaha, good catch. It is the dirtiest and most unsafe subway system in the so called developed world.
Where? Us in the UK? Looks like it... 😔
@@موسى_7 NYC Subway
10 bucks this was the first stock video that came up when they searched for "business person on train".
@@eggheadegghead DC metro had more issues per passenger until very recently
I hope that Stuttgart 21 is done soon. Our infrastructure here in Germany is outdated.
Lol USA: cool story bro at least it’s not Amtrak bad all Germans need to do is give ICE separate tracks stop sharing tracks with local trains
@@qjtvaddict Yes, our transit system is not as bad as the US one, but there are far more problems here than ICE trains sharing their tracks...
What is your opinion of the new Station in Stuttgart?
@@moover123 It is a needed addition to the rail network of southern Germany, but the construction is taking too much time.
What europe is going to do after the pandemic is going to be intresting for sure
It wil never end
Forever lockdown
I will shared this video to my dad. He would be so happy to hear the TEE is coming back :)
I absolutely love your content! This is the type of content I need. Love from Czech republic.
Thank for for educational and entertaining presentation✌
Sounds great acutally! Just a shame they left out Luxembourg. Also, great video!
I don't understand this either, after all, there are several European institutions in Luxembourg, so it would make sense to integrate Luxembourg into the new network.
Yes!
Luxembourg just doesn't have High Speed Rail. The highest you can get is 140 km/h and the next high-speed track is ~75 km to the south (Paris-Strasbourg) - much more km of actual railway. Connections to the east (Frankfurt; no reasonable route) and north (Liège; mostly 90 km/h single track) are even worse.
So it would cost billions to connect a "larger village" (compared to Berlin, Paris, Madrid, Rome...), just for symbolism and a few politicians.
@@Critizens In Luxembourg the tracks are very good, and could be easily upgraded to high speed rail. It's the neighbouring countries that have a bit issue. Mainly the Belgians refuse to upgrade the Luxembourg to brussels line.
@@alph5230 Honestly: Most sections seem way to "curvy" for a high-speed upgrade. Maybe you can upgrade the 90 km/h sections to 110/120 and the 140 km/h to 160.
But no way you could "easily" upgrade the single-track 90-100 km/h sections to 230+ km/h double-track. That would require an entirely new line.
Check out openrailwaymap to see how straight high-speed tracks in neighboring countries are designed compared the the existing network.
PS: There is the "EuroCap-Rail" initiative. So let's hope for the best :)
imagine if they bring back the catering services and the good seats and also the original livery that would be awesome and also the old CIWL sleeping car configurations, but in China the sleeper trains' quality are just getting worse and worse, the new EMUs carry a sickly greenish livery, runs at 160km/h but charge as much as the ones running at 250km/h and they also cancels the old 160km/h Z-trains that used to be comfortable and at least doesn't provide disgusting microwaved food
Hey are you talking about the CR200J trainset?
@@edisonz2006 You Chinese? 哪里人？
@@timlilijinsheng4070 Yeah. I'm from Shanghai but I live in the US. Which city you from?
@@edisonz2006 out of curiosity, what made you leave Shanghai for am guessing a western or Eastern city in the U.S. is it for better political system or plain economic opportunities
@@virtutemodestia3477 Shanghai is still my favorite city though. I am planning to come back to Shanghai when I graduate high school and college in the US.
It's not a new TEE, just a European overnight railway network. The new TEE is the European high speed railway network.
This entire video i kept hearing in my head the 1980’s song, “trans euro express” lol
Fares will have to come down drastically to compete with air travel.
Or airtravel should be taxed as much as rail.
This is very exciting. Whatever the banner or reason for the reinstitution of Trans European service, it means more trains and new equipment, facilities and infrastructure! Yes, it’s going to be a great time for rail fans! Bravo!
EU needs high speed railway network.
And modernization of current one. For example in Czech Republic old lines can be upgraded to 200-230kmph with ease, in fact some preparations should be underway, but problem is that they are shared with local and freight trains as well as there simply is no alternative route for electric freight trains as other main lines are in bad shape, even so called "Right bank railway" running alongside Elbe and bypassing Prague. And as those main liens are overloaded there is no room for speed increases as the same line is used by modern Vectron that is able to run at 200kmph and old "six-wheelers" with top speed of 90kmph. This causes problems and capacity is not utilized to extent that it could be. As well KFNB from Přerov to Ostrava is overloaded. And so on. There is plan to solve it by parallel High-speed line, but after Covid I doubt that there will be enough funds to do that.
But if parallel lines that exist would be upgraded and electrified, part of the load from main lines could be shifted away and there would be room for upgrades and speed increases. Sadly the state railway operator is either blind or don't want to do anything and there is no sign of even attempt to solve capacity problems. Yet reconstruction of some 35km of line would be able to redirect certain amount of trains from most critical part of network. There is no plan so far. When one main line was recently upgraded, no attempts to partially reroute it were made as state perhaps still believes that soon there will be high speed line. Yet it would perhaps be cheaper to rebuild the line for 160-200kmph. Well, that part should server for some time as part of HS line until it will eventually by finished in entire length.
And what is worst, state is unable to even fix connection of lines so they would form one continuous line without need for changes of direction. So usability of certain routes is hampered by fact that more than century ago somebody build routes in that way.
But what is perhaps most problematic is inability of Czech Republic to strike a deal with Germany for massive reconstruction of some line other than that around Elbe and base tunnel that should be build somewhere in this century.
@@MrToradragon yes. Poland is able to get fund from EU. I can feel the Czech government is divided. Politicians play their own games.
@@hong3170 Divided... only single task of ministers is to keep PM AB in position as long as possible. Hell most of them even are not MPs they are just some random folks that were willing to get near him and do what he orders them. I would be happy if politicians would play any game at all, prime minister behaves like child that don't know that bashing other children to head with toy truck is not the right way to make friends. Some of us just wait for autumn and hope that this nightmare will end. We need to change generations once again.
@@MrToradragon Here in CZ we just need to wait till October when the Parliamentary elections will take place. A law discriminating coalitions was just changed to no longer discriminate smaller parties and with this law in effect PM's ANO party will most likely end up in an opposition.
@@jmsmilfajt I know, I know :D I Have celebrated that change with bottle of wine.
Love the New Intro and the Logo! 😊
Thank you! 🙂
There should also be a line between Berlin and Lisbon because the train connection between these capitals are really bad.
If you travel from Lisbon to Berlin you have to drive through Portugal and then you cross the Portuguese/Spain border and then you have to wait 9 hours for the train to Barcelona. In Barcelona you need to wait 11 hours for the train to Paris and from Paris you go to Frankfurt and then to Berlin. The journey time is about 55-64 hours. The airplane only needs 3-4 hours and it costs normally under 100€.
I would like to see the TEE come to the UK and Ireland as well. If there would be a railway bridge or tunnel to be built between Cairnryan and Larne, trains from Berlin to Belfast and Dublin could be doable. Loading gauge isn't a problem if dual loading gauge track was used on the Irish/Ulster parts of the TEE routes that would also allow for trains from London to Belfast and Dublin too. Just a thought.
Awesome video!
Thank you
The new intro is good
Thanks
I support this no matter what!
at 12:51 won't be a problem anymore multiple operators are slowly installing ERTMS on their lines.
They should use tilt trains
Very interesting and entertaining video! Thank you for sharing!
A comment for the almighty TH-cam algorithm.
Srećno!
Hvala 😁
The image you are using for Den Hollander is actually that of a German Wehrmacht officer....
11:00 if you're planning to wait for Stuttgart 21 you'll never do anything.
on a first view it's quite a pleasant idea - but the important reliability on such longer routes inbetween things like privatisation-policies, commuter-focused traffic, freight et cetera won't be that easy to reach
steady overnight offers(TEEN) as addition to HST with attractive timings on middle distances(Milan-Paris/Milan-Frankfurt/Munich-Lyon/Frankfurt-Lyon/Barcelona-Nice/Nice-Venice/Venice-Belgrade for example) could have success
for daytime travel(TEE) it should be taken into consideration that trips longer than four hours aren't attractive enough for a "commuter-jet-society" ...
therefore, flexible agency trains are more promising for longer liaisons
Aahhh new intro. I like it, although I liked the old one as well (simply because I like Japan haha)
great video!
1:06 That's a New York City subway!
Hopefully they keep the design in beige/wine red.
Europe has been proven to be unable to organise economically and still has organisational issues.
Happy to hear that Europe is improving its international railways infrastructure. Good job EU!!
Yes international trains are a good idea. Well done EU for breaking down the barriers with their railway legislation so that it's far more easier to run them now than in the 1960s. Not so good that the state railways led by DB (who bought out their partners in operating international night trains then shut them down) want to create a new cartel to block out any competition from running international trains.
I can only hope it ll come
A great way of expanding TEE 2.0 would be through the Channel Tunnel to UK cities like Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham and Plymouth. If infrastructure was improved in the UK it could cut journey times to the tunnel then they could use European infrastructure. However these trains will need to be built to a smaller gauge to navigate the smaller loading gauge of the British domestic network.
yeah using the upgraded Midland Mainline could enable TSI GB+ loading gauge standards
TEE will return as 200+ MPH HSR international lines.
Would be great to have scu a system back in the EU 🙂
Make a video on India's under-construction HSR and future plans.
There is already a video about Mumbai - Ahmedabad project in India on our channel.
This is so great!
4:42 "Between Meelan"
_itaian hurt noises_
TEE basically just got replaced by EuroCity, Thalys, Lyria, Eurostar etc.
Where does TEN T fit in to this?
Me at the start of the video: ah yes, Olten, I'm in
Is the Rail Baltica project not part of TEE 2.0? Both connect high-speed trains to Warsaw seems odd to leave the new link out.
Well, at the moment the TEE is just a proposal. It's still time to make suggestions
@@mrm7058 Thanks, didn't realize it was still in proposal stage
Berlin - Tamilin would be cool
Just to clarify, would this new proposal use high speed sleeper trains like the ones in China? I hope so as I think they would make for a great alternative to longer distance flights.
I think most european sleeper cars in service are based on carriages designed for up to 200 km/h.
If it is an idea by Andreas Scheuer it will certainly a failure.
It's more of a PR Stunt to keep his Approval rating to slip into single digits.
Basically every German still wonders why he is still in charge for the Department of Transportation after wasting billions in tax money.
By now the question why he got not fired because a running gag.
Still I hope it comes it will become something good but I will keep my expectations low by anything Andi Scheuer does.
fortunately Scheuer is only jumping on the bandwaggon, let's say. He's now promoting the Nightjetlines from OEBB. My only hope is that he doesn't intentionally and wilfully obstruct the change that's there, even though he's the secretary of transportation, not because.
Luckily he is gone in 7 months!
You should have also mentioned PKP
No subtitles? Anyways still a good video!
Working on it..
instead of tee, they should expand the EuroNight network
Why not both?
It seems the plan is to use the momentum created by the current expansion of the ÖBB nightjet network (which is already helped by SBB, and there are rumors that even some at DB regret pulling out of international night trains). And to create a new international company to run those trains - which might also be beneficial. Currently ÖBB has quite some trouble getting suitable timeslots for their night trains (especially in Belgium, France and Italy). An internation company with investment from all national railways might be able to overcome lots of red tape.
I really think it depends on the price, for i guess short distance such a train would be a good idea (like Hamburg-Copenhagen lasting 3 hours instead of 4,5 hours). But i doubt people will like it long distance, like Stockholm to hamburg or beyond, the distance is to long (els there would be more direct trains between stockholm-copenhagen). Night trains is another story, I can see people spending 14 hours in a train between Stockholm and Paris (I doubt 9 hours for that trip if average speed is 200 km/h - els the connection Hamburg-Paris/Vienna would be better today (6 hours instead of the present 9 (made by ICE driving 200 km/h some of the stretches))).
The point isn't so much that all passengers will travel the full length of the route, but that it connects multiple important cities along the route so most passengers will travel overlapping portions of it - but still there will be people who will travel long distance. Just like with EC trains today.
@@stephanweinberger well as said you need to travel less than 30% of its route to have a train beeing faster than planes (like less than copenhagen - stockholm) and most of the route you have fast trains (ICE/TGV). These travel relativ slow in germany because of a large car lobby i guess. I am aware that tracks are rebuilt today. Still most German train passengers would be happy if the ICE would be on time (but this program talks about speeding them up with 50% - the top speed of german ICE trains has been getting lower)
Dont get me wrong i love the idear of copenhagen munich in 4 hours or Berlin to Munich in 3 hours. I think a lot of passenger would use it in stead of a plane.
@@Dovndyr13 Well, I know many people (myself included) who have no problem taking the train from eg. Vienna to Hamburg. That's currently about 9:30-10 hours for about 900km (745 as the crow flies), with fewer stops and/or improvements along the line it should easily be doable in well under 9 hours.
But even if people onlly take the train for e.g. 500km maximum, a continuous line makes more sense than running a bunch of separate trains (where passengers will more likely need to change trains, which makes the journey less attractive to most).
"The Future of European Passenger Rail Transport"? This was about the history................. with 3 minutes on the future.
Is it just me or does it feel like cross border trains in europe stop services for the night, earlier than domestic ones? It's just kind of annoying if you live and work and socialise in a border region.
How that BR103 ended up in Domodossola?
This sounds like a good idea, but it will prob be a disaster given that its coming from Scheuer.
A lot of people thought the same! :)
I used to travel from south of France to Paris in the seventies with my parents on board of the french branch of the TEE : "le Mistral" between Paris and Marseille. Too long ! Ugly and rude passengers from Paris-gare de Lyon to Marseille St Charles. When i was enough adult to take a plane ticket i did not choose too long !!! First it was the mythic "Caravelle" and an aircraft built by Dassault "Le Mercure" and at last it an Airbus A300...
Even now travelling by train stresses me !! Old ladies speaking too loud on phone ! Young workers taking off their shoes ... No way !!! I do not like to take the train !!
Great 🍀🍀
uniting europe by train: 11:36
Portugal and Spain: the renegades
the Spaniards have to change the width of the railways to be able to enter this project, the example can be found on an abandoned border station between France and Spain as well as the same reasons that made the TEE terminate
The Iberian gauge is a curse… a strategic decision from times past, that now only makes us technically isolated. But also helps too many national lobbies, that don’t want us to change to euro gauge for fear of competition.
what happened to the JR jingle? :)
We decided to change it. Which one do you like more? :)
@@RailwaysExplained The new one is very professional and suits better I think but I have nostalgia from all the train rides around Tokyo so always get excited hearing the holiday jingle;) Fantastic channel btw. I'm always looking forward to your updates!
Any Kraftwerk fans here?
Are train tickets supper expensive like the US Amtrak?
For example the train between Warsaw and Berlin pre-COVID cost 29.90 euros ($36.50). The distance is roughly 320 miles. So I guess it's a bit cheaper than the Northeast Regional, but I believe that it might be a bit slower too.
@@adamwojcinski2281 Paid about $400 for a round trip from DC to NYC on Acela in 2017. Or it is about $80 one-way on a regular train from DC to NYC. It is about 250 miles trip.
I did Berlin - Amsterdam last summer for 30 Euro (one way)
Nope they aren’t
They better do it quickly. The Chinese variable gauge bulley train is coming and it's matketed as "intercontinental bullet train". 😝
I'd like to see this project become reality, especially at the Eastern European and Scandinavian parts.
Talgo (a Spanish manufacturer) already has (semi-) high-speed variable gauge trains for many years, but how is that actually relevant to this video? Except in the Baltics, Finland and Portugal, there is no EU country without standard gauge (in the case of Spain, the high-speed network is also standard gauge). This proposed TEE project doesn't even plan to go to those countries, which are quite
peripheral anyway (Finland can't even be reached by train except via Russia).
@@anonomia5535 @anonomia Talgo variable-gauge has top speed 250kph. The Chinese one is designed to operate at 350kph. Talgo variable-gauge trains are operated between Moscow and Berlin but they are slow trains hauled by locomotive. Plus Talgo is not the only company that holds variable-gauge technology.
What I mean is if CRRC (a Chinese company) starts mass-producing these trains and operate it on Trans-Siberian railway and then European routes via the connections established by Belt and Road Initiative, TEE will not be competitive, unless they enter this market quickly and first, and stabilize their reputation.
@@RD-ht6go The question is where you would even want to use variable gauge trains in the EU (since this is really an EU project)? I mentioned the Baltics and Finland, but even that is not relevant since the Rail Baltica project, linking Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Finland, would be standard gauge. The only place left would be Portugal, but if they ever want to join, I'm sure they can also build a high-speed line from Spain to Lisbon in standard gauge.
And do you think it is realistic to run a direct high-speed train route from Beijing to the EU? Or even from Russia to the EU? I don't think the passenger demand between these places is high enough to justify many (daily) routes with variable gauge trains. And if you really want to let Chinese high-speed trains run in Europe, you're already free to do so. International railway traffic in the EU has been liberalized already.
Well, do you realise that one way it is long and other one through Russia? and there is no reason for connecting Eastern Europe to Russia and China. There is much more need to connect it firmly to the Western Europe, revive and improve lines and connection in lands of former Austro-Hungarian Empire.
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in the video you give the title 'the beginning of the end' but in the subtitles you wrote 'the beginning of an end'.
i dont like it.
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Eiro City and TEE 2.0 should both be recreated with TEE 2.0 will only go to the most major economic cities and be as it was the first time - TEE 2.0 would have all luxury cars for the wealthy and wealthy buisness men/weman, or luxury class! - the euro city can have 1 luxury class car!! With trains that can travel at the speeds of the higest speed tracks in eorppe and change wheel guages automaticly so Russian cities can be part of the network, the trains would make money!!!!
Its nice. But as usual, its not TEE, its TWEE (Trans Western European Express).
5:40 I don't know if it's on purpose, but you actually pronounced SBB as it's pronounced in the local variant of German, rather than standard German ("Äss" instead of "Ess").
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Love the vision but with a lead country like Germany something like that will never happen... they have good ideas for projects, but executing them or sticking to commitments is not really what they do
TEE 2.0 wouldn't make much sense without the most populated and geographically central country of the EU. Of course Germany needs to be aboard at a helm position.
Two aisle high speed train will be more stable, safely, faster, powerful, capacity in the future design, seat configuration can be: first class 1/2/1, business class 2/2/2, economy class 3/3/3. what do you think!
Even 2 + 3 seating arrangements found in some commuter services are pushing it in terms of comfort. And like on airplanes, no one wants to sit in the middle. You can't just make Trains wider (if you don't want to rebuld the entire european network for a new XL loading gauge), so no thanks, i'm sticking to 2+1 for 1st and 2+2 for 2nd class long distance services.
@@p4rz1val Exactly! The biggest Standard gauge loading gauges (the width and height that's available for a railway vehicle so it doesn't collide with platforms, signals, bridges and so on) are in Sweden, and while a lot of regional trains there use 3+2 seating, its a tight squeeze. Same goes for in Norway which uses the same width!
TEE should mean "Transport (of) European Elite", because - 1st class only? how is that a significant thing in terms of capacity at all??
You're talking about the 1950s TEE 1.0. Other times, other requirements. TEE 2.0 has different goals of course, as is rightly mentioned in the video clip too. ;-)
To take advantage of "Economies Of Scale", Europe should get China to build more high speed rails, also take advantage of the exchange rates and lower labor cost & its highly productive rail & bridge building machines (low labor intensive as well). And will not miss the completion targets.
No thanks. Europe needs to develop its own high-speed rail construction technology in order to compete with your country in other world markets. Also, there's this rumor about deadly diseases emerging in your country and we don't really need people bringing them from over there.
So, Europe should outsource their railway industry to China? Yeah, that'll get political support...
@@nykos222 Go read The Lancet to learn more about 'deadly diseases".... and see the world for yourself, it might change your mind... :)
@@p4rz1val Thinking of a big man.
We should be avoiding trade with China, a predatory country that's committing genocide, not establishing more.
These videos are getting all the same.
But there's no real analysis of european freight and its' high costs and general uselessness, though that is one thing that would be interesting to know about.
I wonder why everybody keep focusing on the passenger stuff, we get it by now.
I could imagine that's because people and not containers watch videos like this. ;-)
@@randuru I'm more interested in containers than commuting with a train
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Trains are expensive and ALWAYS be. They are not the future transport. Well... maybe in 3rd world.
Cars, as they are today, are also quite costly, you are just not paying the price in money... So-called external costs (costs of traffic pollution, gas emissions and other environmental harm, traffic jams, accidents etc) will soon (most likely) become a part of the traffic costs (through fuel price, ticket costs). Guess which traffic mode will be the most expensive?
love the contradiction of claiming that trains are expensive and then claiming its something for the 3rd world. Utterly stupid and uneducated.
Not only europe and japan prove that trains are vital to the future, china probably overtaking us all with their train development.
As for expensive ... not really, especially whereever car infrastructure capable of replacing trains eats away huge chunks of cities and forcing them to claim valueable land in massive scale just to not choke on cars ... the US barely manages doing without extensive train networks so far because they could expand freely, a luxury only very few developed nation had in the last hundred years. And for some years now a mass of US cities hit walls with their car centric approach as the scale of their car infrastructure simply is unsustainable, hence their infrastructure is falling apart, claiming needlessly lifes en mass and escalating debt of communities.
Anyone who can do basic math knows that trains are worth their money and are a necessity for any densly populated developed region if the infrastructure has to be sustainable.