What a great video, exactly what I wanted to know, I was trying to know because most retailers say super red and red back is the same fish ! Thank you for this
In India mostly we get crossbreed and Amapa Red Backs and all the sellers here label them as Manacapuru Angelfish. After searching for more than 2 years finally I have found the real Manacapurus today. Thanks Brother.
thanks for the video. I have 3 manacapuru angels myself and I love them. Mine are very calm, very little quarrels with any other fish (one reason I like them)
Thank you for this very informative insight into how to keep manacapuru angels successfully. Very helpful to me as I look to adding them to my collection.
If you’re interested in seeing the strain that I have I’ve put a video on TH-cam showing the development from eggs to young fry of a few weeks old (Paul’s fishroom).
Awesome video! I was debating last year to ship them across the country (Canada), but than decided to wait and am playing with the idea to get Phillipino Blues. I just found some Thailand imported juveniles yesterday and so far are doing great. But so glad I found your video, was gonna add a 40 gallon tank, so better go to the 60 gallon instead. They are in a 20 gallon now, but only 4 month roughly. If they are truly calmer that`s great, but wasn`t aware they are bigger. Couldn`t find much info before, so thank you;0)
@@tropicalfishhub Yes right now they are just 4 month old, so much fun to see them setting in well. Hope to get the Philipino Blue and maybe Bulgarian Seal Point some time in the future. Glad I waited, these seem to be very healthy, even though they were imported from Thailand two month ago. My mom used to have Altums with her Discus in Germany and I had some regular angelfish that bred in the past. Now just having fun to watch them and learn more. Subscribed and looking forward to new videos to keep learning;0)
@mrswapyyc Check with the Planted Tank in Edmonton. They have also a new website now, makes it easier to check inventory. Or give Gene a call. He brings some stock in on request
Thanks again for an interesting and informative video. I’ve been keeping and breeding Manacapuru angels for the last 4 or 5 years and agree with much, but not all of what you say. For example, I find that the adults can be very aggressive towards each other both in a group or when breeding as pairs. I used to keep the adults in two separate tanks with the males in one tank and females in the other (I found this reduced aggression). Secondly, the strain that I have show full body bars and a reasonable amount of iridescence whereas there is a another “strain” that is lacking the body bars in the centre of the body but exhibit a strong bar that is closest to the caudal. Thanks again for the video 🤓👍
Thanks for sharing! This is an interesting observation about body bars. I had a fully striped variant as well. They were German-bred and I had strong suspicions that they had some striped scalare genes in them. They were also far more aggressive than my solo-striped Manacapurus. Interestingly, all solo-striped fish are either wild caught or f1. Do you know whether your original multi-striped stock is tank-bred or wild-caught? There is also a wild rio Nergo scalare variant with visible stripes and red back, which is sometimes crossed with Manacapuru or labeled as Manacapuru. Simon Forkel (the prominent German breeder) says that striped red back variant is 100% rio Negro, not rio/lago Manacapuru.
@@tropicalfishhub unfortunately I don’t know my Manacapuru origin they were simply purchased as Redback Manacapuru from a LFS. Simon Forkels comment are however very interesting
My Manacapuru Angel fish were fed on Vibra bites and Prime reef flakes. Prime reef flakes are something a ram breeder told me about great food even for freshwater fish and normally at a great price.
I purchased 6 blue zebra angelfish online and it looks like they've sent me manacapurus! Ive had them about a month feeding tetramin granules and they all have orange back now and doubled in size!
Thanks! Wildwoods used to import some German bred Manacapuru. I had mines from them. Sometimes Pier Aquatics also have some good quality ones in stock.
Thank you for this. I have been in the hobby for 45 years and only recently have I been introduced to the Manacapuru Angelfish. In fact, I am going to convert my 90 gallon aquarium into a SA biotope with the Manacapuru as the feature fish - - a group of 5. I recently saw some juveniles at my LFS that were labeled as "Manacapuru." Now these could be red backs OR just plain zebra coloration. I thought all Manacapuru's were red backs until I watched your viewed. I will need to be careful when purchasing and ask to make sure they are the red variety.
I'm glad the video was useful. Non-red back Manacapurus are a rarity and only specialised retailers stock them, in which case they always labelled as non-red back. but of course it is always safer to ask!
I live in Sweden and too got F3 from a Polish breeder here who had his ones från Simon Forkel as F2 :-) Very regal fish and after having a nightmare of having black marble scalare constantly squabbling and killing each other, these ones are just "angels" for real. Have 3 of them and a zebra since before. They all got in pairs and divided the tank in two defending their territory. Though not closely as ugly as nasty black ones. Just miner pokes and pushes if a intruder approaches. They go with gourami and ternezias, very peacefully indeed, but as clearly an alpha fish of the tank. Colored out at probably 7-8 months in very bright red now though Tetra Pro color is not every day on their meny - mostly frozen larvae of all kinds, as I spoiled them, haha. They often ignore dry food nowadays.
This is fabulous information. I am getting a small group of them soon, however there is conflicting information online about what is the temptature to keep them at?
So many questions come to mind when I watch your videos, I keep posting them so I don't forget... in your tank you have sump. In one of the pictures in this video there was an inlet for a canister filter. Why do you have a sump instead of a canister? I think sump would be cleaner and more efficient for gas exchange, besides easier to maintain. Are these the main reasons why you chose sump? Thanks very much for the videos and answers! All the best!
Thank you:) I used to have sump on my main display tank and canister on other smaller tanks. The sump was great, but unlike saltwater hobby there is no point of installing a sump on smaller tank; there isnt much of a bioload there so canister is more than enough.
I have a pair that looked the ones you have on your video but the only difference is the have long fins. The upper dorsal bends and it’s long but the have a red back with the red spots where the red is but the two lower fins are almost neon blue. Have them for 6 months but they are a total of 9 months now pretty big but nit super big. Do you know what type I have?
I got ten yesterday :) now about 3 cm body, no red just yet edit 11:00 now I wonder, if 90 gallons is enough for that many. Besides catfish they are the only ones in the tank, I think they should be OK?
@@tropicalfishhub Are they that territorial? Are they aggressive? Perhaps I should have done some more research before I got them, but I did learn a lot from your video. I grabbed them because my fish guy showed me some photos, but he didn't say much of any of the topics you brought up. I had koi angels in the tank previously, they were OK in there, but body size only about 8-10 cm. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post :)
@@nobrainsnoheadache2434 angels will fight each other and other fish when breeding. However, there is no guarantee that you will get a breeding pair out of your group, so no need to be concerned about it yet. You can move a breeding pair into a different tank in case if they pair up
@@tropicalfishhub well an update :) they are starting to get some colour on the back, and I have a couple of pairs at least. One has occupied front and centre of the tank and they are fighting off everyone, they even go at the intruder as a pair; there's a lot going on in there :) They are absolutely voracious, with very heatlhy appetites and they eat everything I give them. So far so good, they are turning out to be beautiful :) thank you so much for your responses and for making this video :)
Hi! Sorry to bother You, but I got stuck. Do You have any information about Lago Grande de Manacapuru natural habitat? I couldn't find enough info about fishes, plants which are located there.
As far as I know its a blackwater biotope, with white sand, a lot of driftwood, leaf litter, but no aquatic plants. Discus also live there and geophagus, severums, many tetra species, including rummy nose, checkerboard cichlids, possibly no L-numbers.
Loved this video. I wanted to ask you how many could I keep in a 360 litre tank? I was hoping to keep MAX 5, would that be ok or even more? Thank you for your help.
What would be the minimum height for a tank with Altum or Manacapuru angels in your opinion, please? Let's say for a 180cm long and about 45cm front to back tank? Would 50cm be enough for it's height? Would those measurements be good to keep about 10 to 15 Altum and/or Manacapuru angels? Thanks!
Yes your tank size should be great for a group of angels. Some people say that need minimum tank height of 60cm, but I think 50cm works quite well. They rarely grow taller than 30cm
im watching this video 2nd or third time never gets old , nice video my ones did net get the color yet , still yellowish color 😁 . they are like 6 montha old i think i bought them in february . when i got them they are like 1.5 cm length . 5 inch height , never fed colour feedings until now . i fed ultra fresh exellent bits and dr Basler chlorella . now im going to mix vibra bites of hikari also . only gave that food two days . 🔴will they get the red color when they grow . they are in a bitope aquarium with geos an corydoras . n 🔴 giving a color feed disturb breeding ? our breeders don t give color enancing foods thats a pain 😥
Thank you:) I'm happy that you liked the video. Some Manacapuru strains might take more time to colour up. If your fish are not from wild parents or f2/f3/f4, they may never get truly red because red colour begins disappearing with over breeding. I think you don't need to feed them colour foods, just wait another month or so and they may colour up
I have been curious about the Mamacapuru. Thank you for the video. Is their temperament like a standard wild scalare or clam like an Altum? Thank you for your videos.
Actually, my tap water is at pH 7.0 and it drops to 6 or lower within few days after adding to aquarium. I have tons of driftwood which I believe helps to lower the pH a bit
well, a lot of Manacapuru angels are so heavily interbred that no food can colour them up! Most fish sold at non-specialist aquatic stores are likely farmed, I wouldn't expect much of them.
@@tropicalfishhub when I buy them as babys from fish store 2 years ago the told me the was F1 and the told me the will be really red but I cant even se somthing red 🤔
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absolutely excellent discussion about this particular variant. A+++
What a great video, exactly what I wanted to know, I was trying to know because most retailers say super red and red back is the same fish ! Thank you for this
Thank you. There is usually no way of telling a difference between regular and super red forms until you see an adult fish
In India mostly we get crossbreed and Amapa Red Backs and all the sellers here label them as Manacapuru Angelfish.
After searching for more than 2 years finally I have found the real Manacapurus today. Thanks Brother.
Hi i am from Kolkata, where you have found real manacapuru can you share pls?
thanks for the video. I have 3 manacapuru angels myself and I love them. Mine are very calm, very little quarrels with any other fish (one reason I like them)
Thank you for this very informative insight into how to keep manacapuru angels successfully. Very helpful to me as I look to adding them to my collection.
Thank you. Glad the video was useful. I am sure you will enjoy Manacapuru angels!
I just order my first breeding batch of these babies. Great video bro. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for showcasing this type of angelfish! Just getting into Angelfish too so couldnt have come at a better time cheers
Glad I could help!
If you’re interested in seeing the strain that I have I’ve put a video on TH-cam showing the development from eggs to young fry of a few weeks old (Paul’s fishroom).
Thank you so much for this informative video.
Awesome video! I was debating last year to ship them across the country (Canada), but than decided to wait and am playing with the idea to get Phillipino Blues. I just found some Thailand imported juveniles yesterday and so far are doing great. But so glad I found your video, was gonna add a 40 gallon tank, so better go to the 60 gallon instead. They are in a 20 gallon now, but only 4 month roughly. If they are truly calmer that`s great, but wasn`t aware they are bigger. Couldn`t find much info before, so thank you;0)
Thank you:) I'm glad the video was useful. If your angels are still juveniles, they should be fine in 20 gallons
@@tropicalfishhub Yes right now they are just 4 month old, so much fun to see them setting in well. Hope to get the Philipino Blue and maybe Bulgarian Seal Point some time in the future. Glad I waited, these seem to be very healthy, even though they were imported from Thailand two month ago. My mom used to have Altums with her Discus in Germany and I had some regular angelfish that bred in the past. Now just having fun to watch them and learn more. Subscribed and looking forward to new videos to keep learning;0)
@@hamaarahof5712 Thank you! Good luck with raising the Angels; it is always so much fun to see how they colour up and mature!
@hamaarahof5712 Where can I find these in Canada? I am in Calgary.
@mrswapyyc Check with the Planted Tank in Edmonton. They have also a new website now, makes it easier to check inventory. Or give Gene a call. He brings some stock in on request
Mejor video sobre Manacapuru en la Web. Excelente!!!
Thanks again for an interesting and informative video. I’ve been keeping and breeding Manacapuru angels for the last 4 or 5 years and agree with much, but not all of what you say. For example, I find that the adults can be very aggressive towards each other both in a group or when breeding as pairs. I used to keep the adults in two separate tanks with the males in one tank and females in the other (I found this reduced aggression). Secondly, the strain that I have show full body bars and a reasonable amount of iridescence whereas there is a another “strain” that is lacking the body bars in the centre of the body but exhibit a strong bar that is closest to the caudal. Thanks again for the video 🤓👍
Thanks for sharing! This is an interesting observation about body bars. I had a fully striped variant as well. They were German-bred and I had strong suspicions that they had some striped scalare genes in them. They were also far more aggressive than my solo-striped Manacapurus. Interestingly, all solo-striped fish are either wild caught or f1. Do you know whether your original multi-striped stock is tank-bred or wild-caught? There is also a wild rio Nergo scalare variant with visible stripes and red back, which is sometimes crossed with Manacapuru or labeled as Manacapuru. Simon Forkel (the prominent German breeder) says that striped red back variant is 100% rio Negro, not rio/lago Manacapuru.
@@tropicalfishhub unfortunately I don’t know my Manacapuru origin they were simply purchased as Redback Manacapuru from a LFS. Simon Forkels comment are however very interesting
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Thank you so much!! You explained a lot of valuable information that I needed.
Perfect explanation mate. Lovely
Thanks
Thank you:)
How often and in what percentage should water be changed in a 55 gallon tank ?
My Manacapuru Angel fish were fed on Vibra bites and Prime reef flakes. Prime reef flakes are something a ram breeder told me about great food even for freshwater fish and normally at a great price.
I will try those flakes! I never checked marine foods before.
I purchased 6 blue zebra angelfish online and it looks like they've sent me manacapurus! Ive had them about a month feeding tetramin granules and they all have orange back now and doubled in size!
Great video, is there a retailer in the UK you would recommend to buy these through?
Thanks! Wildwoods used to import some German bred Manacapuru. I had mines from them. Sometimes Pier Aquatics also have some good quality ones in stock.
Thank you for this. I have been in the hobby for 45 years and only recently have I been introduced to the Manacapuru Angelfish. In fact, I am going to convert my 90 gallon aquarium into a SA biotope with the Manacapuru as the feature fish - - a group of 5. I recently saw some juveniles at my LFS that were labeled as "Manacapuru." Now these could be red backs OR just plain zebra coloration. I thought all Manacapuru's were red backs until I watched your viewed. I will need to be careful when purchasing and ask to make sure they are the red variety.
I'm glad the video was useful. Non-red back Manacapurus are a rarity and only specialised retailers stock them, in which case they always labelled as non-red back. but of course it is always safer to ask!
perfect info ,thanks
Awesome information!!! I just acquired some Manacapuru Angels that are very small, I believe they are striped wild type. I'm hoping the get real big.
Thank you! Good luck with your Manacapurus. There is always a chance that they'll be redback because small fish never display red colour
I live in Sweden and too got F3 from a Polish breeder here who had his ones från Simon Forkel as F2 :-) Very regal fish and after having a nightmare of having black marble scalare constantly squabbling and killing each other, these ones are just "angels" for real. Have 3 of them and a zebra since before. They all got in pairs and divided the tank in two defending their territory. Though not closely as ugly as nasty black ones. Just miner pokes and pushes if a intruder approaches. They go with gourami and ternezias, very peacefully indeed, but as clearly an alpha fish of the tank. Colored out at probably 7-8 months in very bright red now though Tetra Pro color is not every day on their meny - mostly frozen larvae of all kinds, as I spoiled them, haha. They often ignore dry food nowadays.
I also noticed that Manacapuru angels are more docile than captive bred varieties. I guess decades of inbreeding has made marble scalare aggressive.
@@tropicalfishhub It probably what it is!
Thanks for the good information. I will get my 12 Angles in the next days. Hope that 900 litres are sufficient 🙂
Good luck with them! Your tank should certainly be large enough for this group.
900 litres should be enough. But how tall and long. Preferably at least 5 feet long and 2 feet tall.
Great informative video thanks,
I have 5 super reds quick growing majestic fish
Thank you!
Hi…nice video. Do you think that manacapuru are bigger than rio nanay? Thanks.
Yes they are usually larger
recently bought 2. at what age should i expect the red color to fill in? These were not cheap at $60 per fish at 3 inch size!
This is fabulous information. I am getting a small group of them soon, however there is conflicting information online about what is the temptature to keep them at?
Thank you:) temperature is the same as for other angelfish 25-28C
Thank you
What is the name of the plant you have growing out of the tank?
Pothos and monstera
Good information❤
Great video thank you
So many questions come to mind when I watch your videos, I keep posting them so I don't forget... in your tank you have sump. In one of the pictures in this video there was an inlet for a canister filter. Why do you have a sump instead of a canister? I think sump would be cleaner and more efficient for gas exchange, besides easier to maintain. Are these the main reasons why you chose sump? Thanks very much for the videos and answers! All the best!
Thank you:) I used to have sump on my main display tank and canister on other smaller tanks. The sump was great, but unlike saltwater hobby there is no point of installing a sump on smaller tank; there isnt much of a bioload there so canister is more than enough.
I have a pair that looked the ones you have on your video but the only difference is the have long fins. The upper dorsal bends and it’s long but the have a red back with the red spots where the red is but the two lower fins are almost neon blue. Have them for 6 months but they are a total of 9 months now pretty big but nit super big. Do you know what type I have?
It sounds like they are some form of cross; it is not usual for manacapuru angels to have neon blue fins
I got ten yesterday :) now about 3 cm body, no red just yet edit 11:00 now I wonder, if 90 gallons is enough for that many. Besides catfish they are the only ones in the tank, I think they should be OK?
90 gallons should be ok while they are juveniles. You'll have to separate them once they pair up
@@tropicalfishhub Are they that territorial? Are they aggressive? Perhaps I should have done some more research before I got them, but I did learn a lot from your video. I grabbed them because my fish guy showed me some photos, but he didn't say much of any of the topics you brought up. I had koi angels in the tank previously, they were OK in there, but body size only about 8-10 cm. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post :)
@@nobrainsnoheadache2434 angels will fight each other and other fish when breeding. However, there is no guarantee that you will get a breeding pair out of your group, so no need to be concerned about it yet. You can move a breeding pair into a different tank in case if they pair up
@@tropicalfishhub well an update :) they are starting to get some colour on the back, and I have a couple of pairs at least. One has occupied front and centre of the tank and they are fighting off everyone, they even go at the intruder as a pair; there's a lot going on in there :) They are absolutely voracious, with very heatlhy appetites and they eat everything I give them. So far so good, they are turning out to be beautiful :) thank you so much for your responses and for making this video :)
@@nobrainsnoheadache2434 I'm glad you are enjoying them! Sounds like there will probably be some spawning soon
Hi!
Sorry to bother You, but I got stuck. Do You have any information about Lago Grande de Manacapuru natural habitat? I couldn't find enough info about fishes, plants which are located there.
As far as I know its a blackwater biotope, with white sand, a lot of driftwood, leaf litter, but no aquatic plants. Discus also live there and geophagus, severums, many tetra species, including rummy nose, checkerboard cichlids, possibly no L-numbers.
Loved this video. I wanted to ask you how many could I keep in a 360 litre tank? I was hoping to keep MAX 5, would that be ok or even more? Thank you for your help.
Thank you! You can have 6-8 of them in your tank. If they pair up and start breeding, you'd probably have to reduce their numbers.
@@tropicalfishhub ah that’s really good I’m happy to hear that. Thank you so much.
Hi i got 2 albino ones today, cool vid but my questions are how long is their lifespan and will albino have red back?
I've never heard of albino manacapuru! Regular manacapuru can live over 15 years.
Would Super Red also be called Red Shoulder or is that a different variety?
Red shoulder typically is used interchangeably with red back, so it is the same fish
How many of them can I keep in 46 gallons tank ? I have a few tetras as of now.
you can keep an adult pair of angelfish, or 6-7 juveniles.
@@tropicalfishhub thank you so much and what if I plan to go with discus how many can I add ?
@@mohitbaid8148 You keep there a pair of discus but it will be too small for a group
What would be the minimum height for a tank with Altum or Manacapuru angels in your opinion, please? Let's say for a 180cm long and about 45cm front to back tank? Would 50cm be enough for it's height? Would those measurements be good to keep about 10 to 15 Altum and/or Manacapuru angels? Thanks!
Yes your tank size should be great for a group of angels. Some people say that need minimum tank height of 60cm, but I think 50cm works quite well. They rarely grow taller than 30cm
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Is there anyway to identify between Male and Female fish when there young?
Unfortunately, not. It is a huge challenge even when they re adults.
fillteration ?
Hi. I am about to buy a longfin manacapuru red back angelfish. Is the longfin variety a wild type or a new man made strain?
It is certainly not a wild type. Its selectively bred cross-breeding manacapuru with striped long fin.
Yes. You are right. The seller just told me thar they're a new man made strain from Taiwan.
im watching this video 2nd or third time never gets old , nice video my ones did net get the color yet , still yellowish color 😁 . they are like 6 montha old i think i bought them in february . when i got them they are like 1.5 cm length . 5 inch height , never fed colour feedings until now . i fed ultra fresh exellent bits and dr Basler chlorella . now im going to mix vibra bites of hikari also . only gave that food two days . 🔴will they get the red color when they grow . they are in a bitope aquarium with geos an corydoras . n 🔴 giving a color feed disturb breeding ? our breeders don t give color enancing foods thats a pain 😥
Thank you:) I'm happy that you liked the video. Some Manacapuru strains might take more time to colour up. If your fish are not from wild parents or f2/f3/f4, they may never get truly red because red colour begins disappearing with over breeding. I think you don't need to feed them colour foods, just wait another month or so and they may colour up
Is It normal a manacapuru angel red back without stripes?
Most manacapurus only have one noticeable stripe. Depending on their mood, they might display no stripes at all.
I have been curious about the Mamacapuru. Thank you for the video. Is their temperament like a standard wild scalare or clam like an Altum? Thank you for your videos.
They re certainly not as calm as Altums. They can be rather quarrelsome with other angels, but tend to ignore all other fish
@@tropicalfishhub Thanks for the info and keep up with the videos. Very informative!
@tropicalfishhub sorry I'm late ....I said manachapuru ignore other fishes!!!..Do they avoid cardinal and rummy nose tetra too?
4 months old @ 20 CM height.
Do you mean 20 CM from fin to fin.
In just 4 months
that is including fin extensions, and manacapuru angels have long fin extensions:)
@@tropicalfishhub how can we make sure the fish grow so fast in captive, any spl tips plzzz.
@@ankushkaul6909 I feed them 5 times per day, mostly with brine shrimp, 29-30C, and one 50% water change per day. They will grow like crazy.
Can we use decapitated artemia dry insted of bbs , just asking cuz bbs hatching loksabha complicated to me.
@@ankushkaul6909 I'm not sure whether it has the same nutritional value, but if your fish older than 1 month you can feed frozen brine shrimp
Thanks
I heard you mention a PH of 6, how do you manage and maintain such a low PH? RO water?
Actually, my tap water is at pH 7.0 and it drops to 6 or lower within few days after adding to aquarium. I have tons of driftwood which I believe helps to lower the pH a bit
Hm i did use the same tetra food now for 2 years on my red back but the are not red
well, a lot of Manacapuru angels are so heavily interbred that no food can colour them up! Most fish sold at non-specialist aquatic stores are likely farmed, I wouldn't expect much of them.
@@tropicalfishhub when I buy them as babys from fish store 2 years ago the told me the was F1 and the told me the will be really red but I cant even se somthing red 🤔
@@Tooadie That's strange! F1 should have a lot of red on them, especially at that age. Do you have a video of them?
@@tropicalfishhub i do not only 1 pic
Hi, I'm about to order 18 of them. They're coming in at 1.75 -2 inches in size. Would my 100 gal be ok?
They should be Ok there as juveniles, but you'd probably will have to move some of them as they grow up
@@tropicalfishhub hi where can i order these? Thanks!