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UK Officers are trained to "deescalate" situations. The US police often appear to escalate situations so they have an excuse to use their guns.
100%.
It's a side effect of their freakish fetish for military and police.
Some truth. But the US "civilian" population can often be more heavily armed than the police. Simple traffic stops or domestics really can be like walking into a war zone - bound to affect the policing style compared the much lower levels of armed offenders/citizens than the countries critising.
Unsurprisingly, the view of many British people is now that OUR police don't d do their real jobs anyway and need to be less obsessed with "de-escalating" situations and more intent on actually upholding the law and enforcing citizens traditional legal rights to protection and pursuit of their lawful business under "the King's Peace". In short, too many of our police are now seen as little more than a sort of toytown Stasi for the loathsome cult of PC/Woke and in many cases are as likely to penalise law-abiding citizens as they are to confront offenders.
@@HankD13 All the more reason to defuse a situation instead of running in like they´re in a movie
Same in Portugal... Try to de-escalate first...
Most situations can be resolved by everyone calming down.
Police in Europe carry guns and they are not at war with it's citizens.
EXACTLY.
well except normal police in U.K and norway don't carry guns on their body.
Most German cops don't have guns either. Not for normal patrolling anyway.
Maybe it's because Eurepean citizens do not have guns, mostly?
@@antcommander1367and Ireland too
I'm a former german police officer and police trainer and I follow several channels with US police activity and I see so much bad police tactics which could be used as textbook examples for bad policing.
Very much early gun pointing, aggressive yelling and enforcing. This leads to panicking and aggressive reactions from suspects. In Europe officer security did not come first.
Security comes for the most part from professionality, situation awareness, keeping the stress level of suspects as low as possible, talk and deescalate. US police has many serious problems. They are badly selected and badly trained. Their short training is focused on self protection and enforcing.
In Germany police cars are always manned with two officers. In car stops the police places in front of the suspects car, one officer approaches the suspects car showing no threatening behaviour. The other officers stays in the car monitoring the situation and keeping radio contact with the base. If the suspect is not cooperative it is never forced out of the car.
The US police system needs a total redesign. The US is in comparison really bad. The safety is lower, police kills too much citizns. Nevertheless there is more crime and prisons are much fuller.
Aggressive policing is no solution. Every random stupid guy with a gun can act like many of the officers in many bodycam footages.
To become a german police officer there is a difficult assessment about physical skills and psychological suitability and general knowlege. After passing this the practical and theoretical training is about three years fulltime.
In the the USA recently there was a similar situation. In Ohio, a pregnant shoplifter was fatally shot thru the car's windscreen by 2 policemen. I think it was only one bullet, but I believe the US police have a habit of firing until their magazine is empty. (Her unborn daughter did not survive). This a a further case of a murder where there was absolutely no provocation or danger.
Der Wilde Westen... viel Kultur haben sie nicht, aber trigger happy sind sie. :)
German guy here. Thank you for teaching our guys how it's done properly!
@@mikefraser4513 I commented this case earlier from my professional perspective. This also was a textbook example for bad policing.
@@mikefraser4513 CORRECTION. "In Ohio, an *alleged* pregnant shoplifter...."
They had no proof before nor after that SHE was a shoplifter. In other words they approached her with guns drawn and aimed just because they thought she might be a shoplifter. Let that sink in. Guns drawn and pointing to a civilian in a car even before the first words are uttered. INSANE
And why did they shoot her, because she was pulling away in her car very very slowly and that made one cop shoot in her general direction... killing her and her unborn baby.
I’m a European reacting to a US citizen reacting to Europeans reacting to US police. 😁
Same here.
Not just Europeans, but same.
Me too
Same
You have to understand that the cop who works in Northern Ireland must be employed in one of the most high risk forces in the developed world.
Apart from N.Ireland police, the only other police who are routinely armed are the Ministry of Defence Police, and the Civil Nuclear Constabulary who guard civil nuclear facilities.
@@mikefraser4513 The PSNI currently total ~6,500, to give a sense of the size of the service (by comparison, the NYPD numbers ~36,000).
Through the Troubles, 316 police officers were killed - but over 9,000 injured. From 2001-14 there were a further 16 murder,s - but the last shooting was in Feb this year, when two gunmen murdered an off-duty detective chief inspector while he was coaching school football.
In addition, levels of stress-related illness have been higher than in any other police force; almost 70 serving officers have committed suicide, many with their issued weapons.
@@wessexdruid7598 My dad had 2 tours in NI with UK troops from the Rhine Army around 1980 I think. He told me it was worse than in a normal war because you could not tell who your enemy was. The worse was going armed thru the streets at night back to back not knowing if turning into the next street might be your final move.
Between August 1969 and July 2007 1,441 military personnel died as a result of operations in Northern Ireland. Even when he was in Germany he was not safe driving a car with GB plates because the IRA were also present.
I would never have joined the PSNI for that reason.
@@mikefraser4513 I was last there (Omagh) in 1992, but I first took the Queen's Shilling in 1978.
@@mikefraser4513 There are several armed SO units in the Met, counter terrorism, close protection, diplomatic protection, guarding embassies, Westminster and some royal residences, also airports, I assume other forces with airports in their area have an armed section that covers that duty.
The issue isn't even that the police in the US have guns, they absolutely need them in that gun heavy culture. But they should be given so much more and better training. If they're going to be heavily armed and given so much power, they need to be heavily vetted to make sure they're mentally capable of doing the job well and held to account when they don't.
Ok. But abolish qualified immunity. Every person has to answer to the law when you break it.
*and held to account when they don't* - This.
Well, then I ask you: Why? Why are there so many civilians wearing a gun? In a "Land of Fredom!"???? For protection? Thats the job of the police and the government! As a civilian person ypu have NO RIGHT wearing a gun for self protection! Some criminals are better armed than the hole military soldiers of germany! And you tell us, that police officers in the US need a better training? You're joking, right?
Lol Police have guns in EVERY European Country, except one of two. You Americans really can't get that!
Better training means to be better in making decisions and better restrain. You don't need to shoot someone who is cuffed with 20 gun shots who's not a treat. It's about selfcontrol and deescalation. If you first shoot and then ask questions, you doing it wrong. @@toycarcrush
Qualified immunity is not an Onion article. It's a major reason reason police officers act violently. They operate with no fear of financial repercussion.
Yeah, watching poor Connor trying desperately wrap his head around it was rather sad to watch. He gets very defensive sometimes in videos when his ideas of the US get fact checked. It's not his fault, he's been spoon fed propaganda most of his life, but he is trying learn and that's why I like his videos. He wants to educate himself. I wish more US citizens did the same.
@@JonInCanada1 ,
It's what happens when something is completely unbelievable, one's mind tries to find a reason why it is not as it seems.
Several times we saw Connor speechless - for a good reason. I was speechless, too. It´s so far from an European understanding about "helpful" police, accountability, attitude, deescalation, saving lives....
Many Americans say it´s the best country - nothing against it ... but I guess we have a different measure as to what we call "best".
Nowhere else in the world allows law officers legally to get away with the activities they prosecute others for. Normally, they are held to a HIGHER standard - but in the USA, they can rob, kill and maim without consequence. So it is no surprise that they do.
The police in Northern Ireland carry guns as a rule, unlike in the rest of the UK, and have to deal with deadly violence all the time and yet aren’t “trained” to have that violent mindset in the same way. They are still trained to de-escalate first. As the Northern Irish police officer said, after 20 years in the service he still has to check under his car in the morning to check if there’s a bomb there.
My father was in the Rhine Army in Germany (just after "The Troubles") and his car had GB plates of course. When he was in another city in Germany he always had a mirror on a stick and checked beneath before driving off.
The last NI police officer killed by a bomb under his car was in 2011. Thirteen years AFTER the Good Friday Agreement was signed. The last one shot dead was this year.
The Dallas PD fires more aimed shots in a day than the entire German police force in a year. Need I to say more?
Hey Connor. Everytime a UK police fire arms officer fires a shot it is referred to the independent police body. There was a big fuss after a police fire arms officer was charged with murder for firing one shot through a car window and killing an unarmed suspect just over a year ago. The independent body decided non lethal force should have been used. This was one of 2 times in London fire arms were discharged last year even though fire arms officers attended just over 4000 incidents in London last year.
It's the same here in Canada, the moment the gun is pulled it automatically triggers oversight. Like the UK, Canadian police go through rigorous training, both practical and classroom.
He was NOT unarmed. He tried to run the officer over, after ramming a police car. A car is a weapon.
Us police have shot and killed more civilians in one month than Britain has in two decades
If you think about the fact that the NYPD (Population New York City estimated at 8.3 million for 2022) in some years shoots more bullets at people than all of the police forces in the entirety of Germany (population 83 million) together... German police also don't usually empty their gun (SWAT team interactions with organized crime nonwithstanding...) And unlike UK police officers, German police officers are all regularly armed.
And if you then consider that German police are prohibited by law to shoot in a way that is highly likely to kill unless there clearly is no other way to stop immediate serious danger, and indeed most lethal shots by German police are snap shots, whereas aimed shots are regularly targeted to the thighs to immobilize.
@@ohauss I lived in Spain were police officers like Germany do carry a gun but using it is a last resort.
I think it's a mentality thing with European cops compared to US cops.
As a British person, I've always found the USA to be a curious country. From proudly violent police officers to a discriminatory and cruel health service, it blunders about the place like a giant with the mind of a child. The clear solution to the gun problem is to severely restrict access to guns. Yes, that goes against the second amendment but surely a new amendment can be added to the constitution; one that limits one firearm per household or something. There's certainly no need for one person to own 12 Uzis or whatever.
The USA is a relatively young country, although there are younger (Pakistan and Latvia, for example). The USA has a juvenile tendency to throw its toys out of the pram when things don't go its way. If that's not the definition of childish I don't know what is, frankly. Also, you're incredibly squeamish about nudity and swearing after 9 o'clock at night. It's infantile and irritating, if I'm being honest. Sorry, I've gone off on a tangent there, but I hope my point is still clear.
1-The root cause of gun violence is poverty and hopelessness. Poverty is not difficult to solve. But the ruling class has zero interest in addressing it. In fact, they aim to create more poverty.
2-Amending the constitution is nearly impossible, even more so with the fracturing of the country.
@@cygnusx-3217 I agree as a Brit observing, poverty is the number one issue, poor infrastructure, a rigged health system, appalling insurance practices even for cars, if you're poor in America you're a second class citizen, oh and employment laws are an absolute joke, it's third-world country standards of treatment, you dealt with these main factors you'd probably see a difference in quality of life that would drop crime drastically, I feel like Americans fetishsize revenge and punishment instead of wanting to address the why, it's like they assume "bad" guys just happen. I think he's right about nudity though, you guys censor swearing and nudity which is harmless and show violence as in Europe I feel it's the opposite.
@@cygnusx-3217 While I agree that poverty is a factor in gun violence, I will point out that there's poverty here in the U.K. as well. It's certainly true that desperate people will do desperate things in desperate times, yet guns are incredibly rare here. As such, I would argue that the main cause of gun violence in the U.S. is gun ownership.
Poverty is root cause of cirme, not of gun violence in general. You must make it REALLY hard for a common citizen to obtain a gun, and you'll see the gun violence drops significatily in a few months/years. But still you USA people seem uncapable to understand this...@@cygnusx-3217
"Amending the Constitution is nearly impossible" oh c'mon on! There have been dozen of amends, in the past, right? And if you're right, well... that only shows how stupid you Americans are, to the rest of the World. How can you create a law, a Constitution in this case, that is "nearly impossible" to amend? What were you thinking about? That the society would have ALWAYS been the same, through centuries, and that, so, it was a good idea to approve a Constitution that was impossible to change? C'mon on...@@cygnusx-3217
The £225k theft was not a limit....it was a case where a group of cops stole that amount....if I remember it was stolen during a propery search....but the court let them off
Policemen and Policewomen are there to " HELP " people and to keep people safe . . simple
Not so simple in a country where the criminals shoot at you. If the pay is ok, just.. and you have to engage in gun fights armed with pepper spray so life expectancy is 15 months.. that will negatively affect recruitment to the police force.
I think these days, it's mostly about protecting property.
@@user-zu6ir6kj5g It always was. There were no Police, until people were forced off the land, and into the cities, to work in the new factories.
@@kristena9285I mean, if the cops are likely to shoot you or choke you to death, armed or not... why not be armed? Better being a copkiller in prison than being dead.
When I read that motto "to protect & serve" on the doors of US police cars. I have to shake my head.
The impression given is that the US "Cop" is more like an occupation army than a civilian police service.
when US military cops are safer than their regular police officers.
Better trained, gun disciplence
@@antcommander1367there was a case where a former US military turned police officer was fired, because he recognized a suicide by cop attempt and didn’t shoot, while his colleague (who only received cop training) shot on arrival, while the former military guy tried to de-escalate.
The problem in America is exactly the one you demonstrate. Guns are widespread in a lot of countries where the police are not armed. If a cop can't handle an armed criminal without waving a gun at him, he's just no good at his job. In the UK, unarmed police arrest armed criminals all the time.
there's a difference between a police service and a police force!
Explain it.
@@gabrielesolletico6542a police service SERVES their community. A police force FORCE the compliance of laws.
In the Uk, any firearms officer who shoots somebody in the line of duty has to be immediately suspended and tried for the offence and only return to duty when found not guilty by a court. Where does training come in to it when that US police officer thinks she is holding a tazer and then finds out it was her gun after shooting someone to death. In Britain we are not afraid of the polce generally
In Finland officers carry a gun. They have to write a report though even if they just take it out from the holster while on duty. There is a show where cop from LA visits nordic countries and Finnish officer shows what they carry when on duty but they don't show their gun and that is the reason. If they would have done that they would have had to write a report from it. Also with their training killing is not the first response. There was a situation few years back where couple guys ambushed local officers in here. Two of them got hurt really badly and still rest of them who chased the guys down brought them in alive so that those got their day in court. It's how you educate them to do their work and in US the training is that you are in war with rest of the people who live in the same country with you.
There is couple different programs, that have episodes here in youtube, where US cops visits nordic countries to see how we do things in here, since all of us have similar BA level training with our officers. I think that is actually how the officers are trained in whole Europe.
You might want to check out which country has the most mass shootings, and whether having every citizen in your country owning multiple guns is equal into making your country safe......
Georgian is its own language, and a very unique and interesting one! It has the most gorgeous script.
and where it's said wine was first made.
When first my family and I lived in the US, as a six-year work rotation for me, the second issue my two oldest children brought up was how different "coppers" were from their previous experience. They were 8 and 10 at the time. I think that, back then, the best remembered idea a foreign kid had of a US cop was of either Andy Griffith or those on Adam 5. These are not what my two saw on the streets of DC in the 80s and 90s. Btw, the first issue that shocked them was using a pencil to write at school. My then 8-yr old even asked me, "Haven't they invented fountain pens yet in the USA, Dad?"
Hey Connor if you had a police car behind you do you feel intimidated knowing how it could go in that if they pull up the wrong information on you it could go badly. Here in the UK we don’t have that feeling usually.
Honestly? When a cop car is on my ass here in Europe I'm nervous because I wonder if I did something wrong that will get me a fine whereas in the US I would be nervous because I would be wondering if I get to life another day.
@@PDVismI‘d say fearing a fine is very different from fearing to die.
There was a video that went kind of viral like 10 years ago when Swedish cops on vacation in New York arrested a guy on the subway. "Did These Swedish Cops School The NYPD?" Very specific moment but kind of crazy it became so much watched.
Something similar with a Spanish cop again in NY, when you see the number of hours that US cop are trained, you can't surprise about it.
I think when you say "listen to the person" it has to do with police training, which is almost non-existant in the US.
I've seen way too many videos here on youtube in which police officers are acting outside of the law, breaking the constitution constantly just for the police to investigate themselves and seeing nothing wrong with their actions. Problem with this all is that because of qualified immunity, barely a fraction of the court cases holds the policemen involved accountable. That means that it's not the cops that will pay out the settlements, it's the tax payers money that does it.
I know that this isn't every policemen in the US, but truth is that a lot of police departments in the US are corrupt and couldn't care less about their citizens.
5:35 I urge you to continue learning about the actual role police play in society ... in whose interest they serve. Your current understanding is *severely* lacking.
Whose society? In the USA, the origins of the police forces were slave patrols, who captured runaways and quashed slave riots.
agreed, there was way too much copium in his explanations througout the reactions, and then to think that he probably more progressive then many of his countrymen because of these reaction videos
I think some reasonable training might help, I also think qualified immunity sucks, it lets police believe they are above the law.
Currently, they ARE above the law, so very often.
In my country, police has immunity as long as they stick with the rules. They also usually get the benefit of the doubt, but when they do something that was against the law, where they violated rules, they will be sentenced like any civilian that did the same.
Police has nothing to fear, as long as they follow the law, but when they break the law, they get punished.
We also have the problem with police covering for each other, but I've heard of a lot of judges who are really upset about this, reacting with even harsher punishments for those cops that were proven to have violated the law.
I don't think perfect police exists, but there definitely is a difference between countries that try to get it right and countries that just don't give a damn.
I only had to ask a New York cop for directions in the early 90's, and got a mouthful. I was stunned from England
Sorry, what's a "mouthful"? I'm not a native speaker, and google translate did not help me.
@@gabrielesolletico6542 A 'mouthful' is a UK term for coarse/foul/aggressive or just plain unpleasant speech. Completely unprofessional from a cop particularly if he's dealing with a visitor to his city - way to represent.
Oh, I see.@@julianc3682
I'm totally shocked that you'd never heard of qualified immunity!!!!
The biggest problem with US cops is their lack of training. An average of 647 hours. Half of what a barber gets. Then they're give a badge and a gun and let loose on the streets. You mentioned using pepper spray, but it is well known most cops reach for their service weapon first, before even considering their taser or pepper spray. Whilst America is obviously dangerous for cops, it doesn't mean every cop gets to unload a full clip into a stationary vehicle. Especially as Americans are allowed to legally own weapons. 647 hours isn't enough training to make that kind of a decision!!!!
4:52 "I haven't been in a job where people could hurt you." Well, you are living in a country where people could hurt you.
The UK has a police service, not a police force, which is meant to define its relationship with the general public.
*cough* the MET *cough*
@@w0t3rdog The vast majority of Met officers are fine. The people that have an issue with them are generally the sort that look for something to moan about.
@@Bungle-UK I mean, 300 MET officers turned in their guns in protest against one of their own facing repercussions for killing an unarmed dude.
That doesnt sound like a few. Sure, there are something like... 33000 employees in the MET. But far from all of them actually work outside of the offices. And of the ones actually outside, even fewer actually use guns. 300 is quite alot in context. Enough that the MET had to call in backup from adjacent departments and the military.
If enough of your department support the killing of an unarmed civilian, so you need the military to step in... you got some serious problems.
@@w0t3rdog So, you’re showing a complete lack of understanding there. The officers were concerned at the murder charge brought against one of their colleagues. They rightly questioned this decision which undermines armed officers ability to make a split second decision about whether to fire or not. Murder requires premeditation, which clearly isn’t there in this case. In 2022-23 armed police were deployed to more than 18,000 incidents across the whole of England and Wales and only 10 of them resulted in police actually using a firearm….hardly evidence of a trigger happy police service.
@@Bungle-UK Considering the vast majority of Police in the UK dont carry arms. At all. Them being snowflakes about being held accountable when using theirs is what's going on.
Accountability, especially when people's lives are at stage, is paramount for trust. If they dont see that, then I honestly dont trust them to have guns anyways.
What it all should come down to... Protect and serve at all cost to ALL citizens. Here in Europe we empathize deescalation as a first response.
My mate was a Manchester Met cop for 8 years, then spent 1 year training to be an armed response officer. If you failed then you failed and couldn’t apply again for another 3 years. Every single year they have to go through a 2 week reassessment; physiological, physical, weapons, tactics and codes of conduct. If they fail this reassessment, then they can’t ever be an armed response officer again. The standards in the EU and UK seem to be much much much higher. Deescalation, calmness and NOT seeing every single person around you as a criminal seems to be the key difference between US cops and cops from the EU and UK.
Georgian is a language in the Kartvelian language group (only a little over 5 million speakers worldwide), and isn’t related to any Indo-European or Turkic language. It also has a unique script.
The Northern Irish cop is working in a potentially much more risky environment than the others and USA. Clearly getting different training than US cops.
8:30
When seeing those, i guess, SWAT cops ...
I feel the need to point out that the german police unit GSG9, one of the top SWAT and anti terror units in the world, rarely fired their guns in almost 50yrs.
Police officers are just civilians in uniform, once an officer takes control of a person THEY are entirely responsible for that person's safety, just as the Geneva Convention says a POW should be handled.
People always think I’m lying when I say that hair color specialist have more training than police officers.
It is impossible to know the exact number of American colonists who favored or opposed independence. For years it was widely believed that one third favored the Revolution, one third opposed it, and one third were undecided.But France and Spain encourage it.
Noooo pepper spray is illegal just about everywhere except USA and it should be illegal everywhere
While it's true it's illegal for the general public in the UK the police can carry and use it
And even in Spain it's legal for anyone over 18
@@gillianhollins3003 they can only use it in uk if they do not have a fire arm
That's virtually the whole police force armed officers are not the thing here they are here but only used in rare occasions
You seem to be under the impression that lots of cops in other countries aren't armed with guns when in fact most regular cops in most countries do have a side arm. However, whenever a cop uses his gun, it's national news and possibly even reported in the surrounding countries if he/she really did something stupid like shooting at something which wasn't warranted.
It's like the idea that lots of Americans have that in most countries it's illegal for citizens to have guns when in fact there are only 14 countries where it's utterly illegal.E.G. in all of Europe citizens are allowed to have guns BUT there are rules, regulations, registration, safe guards, training etc and not like in the USA where anyone can buy a gun legally without any training, license, checks or registration
The mantra that I've seen from the recordings of American police training has been 'Better to be judged by twelve than carried out by six.'
The meaning of this is that many police officers are effectively taught that it's better to incorrectly take a life than die themselves. They are taught to fear their own death over the life of civilians.
Even further they are taught to fire off their entire magazine when they use their gun, which is why so many of the reports and videos show the un-necessary police shootings putting eleven or more shots into the same person.
I recently had a conversation with a Swiss police officer with more than two decades of experience. He told us that he only ever had to use pepper spray twice on the job, both times to bail out a fellow officer who had gotten into trouble.
US Cops are treating US Citizens with rights and freedoms in the US Constitution assuming they are guilty until proven innocent from an outsiders point of view. If a US citizen was treated this way by foreign police forces overseas there would be action.
If my son was an officer in the u.s I'd want him to be armed but he's not he's fortunately an officer in the u.k , I must say I sleep a little easier too knowing its highly unlikely to come across someone with a gun . The met police have some bad eggs too Connor .
If I’m not wrong in Italy if you are a policeman and in a situation you shout a gun you are suspended from your service and have to go trough an investigation to confirm that it was the only viable option
Here’s a few real life uk police shows. Police interceptors, 24 hours in police custody, Street crime UK, traffic cops, “Costa street crime Spain” which follows Spanish police in a British nightlife hotspot for drunk Brits and the Spanish police are very strict 😂
I hope you know why. A drunk it's not the actual problem with your felow Brits here.
Your thoughts about "pepperspray" are incorrect. I'm a retired Dutch police officer. I've seen an angry man, high on adrenaline, being sprayed correctly and the spray having no effect at all for .. 25 min, then the pepper certainly kicked in. We brought him to the police station and there at the special eye rinsing station he had to rinse and cool his eyes for more than half an hour before he could use his eyes again. So pepper spray is not always effective.
I remember several of my professional traffic policing contacts with USA tourists, totally amazed how I engaged them and talked with them while doing my job. Totally different as in the USA.
I also have seen an experienced police colleague of mine meet a USA girl, married her and went to the USA. After getting USA citizenship he became a police officer again in USA for many years. I remember all the lovely Facebook comments when he retired. He was very special to the whole community.
But.. the police of a country is part of that country and has the mentality of that country. A racist unequal anti social country produces the police it deserves, no other options possible.
when you need less training than a barber, but qualified to judge life and death situations...
There are actual footage of Italian police enforcing law in dangerous situations where no one gets hurt.
As Italian, I was always shocked by seeing what happens in America.
Just today I was shopping in a local big mall and there was a delegation of the Police making "diplomatic relations" with the rest of the citizens during a public driving test.
Everyone was so calm and happy to see the police there that looked almost a surreal situation.
"My problemen is" and "Here in America " Sounds like an excuse
agreed, there was way too much copium in his explanations througout the reactions, and then to think that he probably is more progressive then many of his countrymen because of these reaction videos
A properly trained police officer doesn't need any weapon, not even pepper spray.
In 99% of cases that's definitely true, but in a country where you can freely carry assault rifles, not having a gun is not really an option.
But only because they carry it, does not mean that they have to use it on a daily basis...
Most cops in my country I talked to told me that they hope they'll never have to fire their gun outside of the shooting range. They know that they only kill when they have to, not because it's comfortable. A police officer that does not value the life of the citizens is not a police officer.
The amount of semi illiterate private security guards in america is well over the top. 😢😢😢😢
Yeah American police definitely need guns because their are so many guns. They just need better training like what the uk firearms police have and to not take their egos to work
In the US, with their gun-culture, it's a vicious circle. It will never stop.
No you need better gun laws or the same gun law as we do in europe
@@weybye91They need:
1. Better gun laws. It should be much harder to obtain a gun permit.
2. A country-wide gun amnesty. The genie has to be put back into the bottle somehow. This will be extremely expensive but needs to be done.
3. Fewer police forces. 18,000 is about 17,000 too many! Germany is the size of an average US state but only has 17 ( not 360).
4. Harmonised laws across all states and districts within those states. It's crazy that something can be perfectly legal in one district, but illegal in another district 5 miles down the road. No wonder everyone is confused about the law!
5. Better trained police officers. 647 hours of training is about 3 months whereas most European police officers are trained for about 3 years.
6. An emphasis on diffusion not escalation. Use of guns should be a last resort not a first one.
7. Absolutely no qualified immunity. If a police officer uses his gun he should be investigated and, if found to have used it improperly, tried - just like any other citizen. 28:28
Seriously, listen to that Northern Irish police officer. He's been doing the job for 30 years, which means we was doing it in the 90s. The 90s in Northern Ireland were a time when police officers were far more likely to be hurt or killed than any US police officer is today. There were places in NI were sniper teams were targeting police and military, and several helicopters were shot down. There were homemade bombs, mortars and other military scale weapons deployed against the police. If an officer who served through that says that American police are out of line, then the issue is NOT that American criminals are too dangerous.
just watched a program on 5star TV showing a paramedic and a police officer working as a team covering each other they ride around in a joint car and do their own duty as required.
it is said that our own armed police are paramedic-trained
in the uk we have a police service ,in the us you have a police force
Imagine being a teacher with a class full of teens like Conner. No wonder teachers feel underpaid and overworked.
And why the heck do you feel the need to insult Conner ????? What kind of an idiot whould do this. Don't watch the clip, don't comment it. Just go away. Can't be that hard.
Imagine being a teacher with a class full of teens like you ...... That must be hell on earth.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Imagine being a teacher with a class full of teens like you. Teachers underpaid and overworked? Some workers would love their holidays and lack of accountability for results. Look at the responsibility of all these police officers from around the world. Now that’s being underpaid & overworked with a huge amount of responsibility.
I'm sure that some other people pointed this out, but: in Italy police officer's and detectvie are all armed with an handgun, and every patrol unit (2 officers) have 1 machine gun, so...
US police don't seem to assess the situation, they go right to drawing their gun right away.
It seems that progress of the police force in the US has stalled since the Knapp Commission in 1970. The training for US police officers is woefully inadequate to prepare them for life on the streets.
It’s been reported that Derek Chauvin, the police officer who held down George Floyd’s neck, had 18 previous, separate complaints filed against him & 3 previous shootings, one of which was fatal. He also had 2 letters of reprimand. His previous experience was working in security in the same nightclub where George Floyd worked at the same time & he was a short order cook. A disaster waiting to happen.
Here in Austria Police are only allowed to open fire if they are shot at or somebody is in a life threatening situation
Remember that only the English officer here is from a force that dosn't carry guns,
Even the northern Irish police are routinely armed (9mm pistol)
German police are armed. I presume Georgian police are armed
The difference is that the gun stays holstered unless it's actually needed...
They wouldn't draw their gun while approaching a car in a traffic stop just on the off chance they might need it....
Maybe a lot of the shootings in the US have something to do with the cop already having their gun in their hand which is the encumbering them from drawing a baton, handcuffs, pepper spray, taser or whatever
There was a documentary by Sky News called "Hard Wire: Law of the gun".
It's about US police officers visiting Police Scotland to learn the differences. It's about 7 years old but still quite relevant.
They speak Georgian (Kartvelian) in Georgie. But Russian is widely understood. Because of the old Soviet Union.
British police are heavily trained in de-escalation techniques.
Unless you accidentally use the wrong pronouns.
I saw on tv an American cop tazer a woman 5 times within about 30 seconds and she was in the back of the police car!!!!
Connor , i live in Spain and the Police carry guns but the public can't . . thats the ideal
In Spain there's 2 forces at the national level, several regional ones (whose exact functions vary from the purely ornamental to greatly replacing the national ones) and a multitude of local ones. But all local ones have the same functions, so even with a large number of "police forces", knowing where a particular piece of paperwork goes isn't terribly difficult.
And, like in every country pictured in the original video, a lot of the functions which in the US are dumped on the police, in Spain would trigger a call to the medical system or to social services.
Your comment during 24 min is so good...
Love you man
Once the heart rate exceeds a certain rate the brain cannot function properly that’s why British military in particular SF forces practice so much, then in any action the heart rate hardly raises enabling the person to make decisions
I enjoyed your reaction except for your insistence that pepper spray won't kill anyone. Please remember that some people have a capsicum allergy so pepper spray CAN KILL. The allergy is quite rare, but you never know if a stranger has it. If someone you love has this allergy, it's pretty terrifying when everyone assumes the spray is non-lethal.
There are so many videos out there showing encounters with cops in the US. And it's absolutely striking to me, how unprofessional US cops are at times. They're dropping f-bombs, call people motherf*cker (I don't even know why I censor myself here, apparently that word is no big deal!) and other insults.
Another HUGE issue is that US cops seem to be alone and on their own most of the time. In Germany there are always at least two cops per car. If they're out on motorcycles, bikes or on foot, it's at least two of them.
If you're out there on your own, knowing that support is at least several minutes away you of course reach for your gun much faster in fear of being overpowered. A little more manpower might have helped to deescalate that situation instead...
Jin Jeffries did some police ridealongs. They’re fun and Amsterdam is my favorite.
In France, police is called "Gardien de la Paix" (Guardian of the Peace) i think it's says a lot
I find it so sad that you can’t imagine an American Police Force without guns. Strategies for reducing guns should be being explored. The police are peace keepers not warriors.
You didn’t know? Qualified immunity is federal. In simple terms it means no civil (only criminal)lawsuits/persecution can be filed against the police.
By European standards American police are incredibly trigger happy and the number of deaths that occur at their hands would be completely unacceptable anywhere else. However, when you have a society in which there are more firearms than people the police are bound to be jumpy. That is only natural but it is a bad mindset for officers having to deal with the public, often in very stressful situations. Unless there is a complete sea change in American attituded towards firearms, the Second Amendment and everything it entails I cannot see any meaningful change in the near future.
as if americans miss understood ''well regulated'' wrongly. in ''well regulated militia''.
USA: "Police is the new cowboys-from-the-movies".
The thing that makes this really interesting is the guy from Northern Ireland. Cos Northern Ireland was literally a war zone (in all but name), with armed soldiers routinely patrolling the streets, as recently as 1997.
Police in NI are armed, and they are still being targetted by terrorists, and shot and bombed (while off duty) - the most recent one was this year.
So when a police officer from Northern Ireland, who is probably in susbstantially more daily danger than an average US cop, thinks the US police culture is insane... Be worried.
Long range pepper spray made me laugh. I am from the UK and am so pleased to have the Police we do here. The American police frighten me with their penchant for using violence to diffuse a situation.
I've just had a thought, as the right to carry guns in the USA is to protect from tyranny, the police have to be unarmed first for there to be no reason for the citizens to have guns?
Maki Haberfeld, a professor of law and police in New York, criticized in 2015 that the recruits were often too young and often only had a high school diploma. Haberfeld told US broadcaster NPR that on average police training takes 15 to 16 weeks. Police students primarily learn how to use firearms and some local and federal law. There are also a few hours in various social sciences. In Germany, training to become a police officer takes 2.5 to 3 years!
What needs to be fixed is required training for cops. IN many of the situations we see, the cops seem absolutely overwhelmed by the situation they're in and they escalate, thinking it would get them control over the situation. Training would help them be in charge in a non-escalatory way.
Mate, you are good at sourcing interesting videos. But it is just me, or have you started to talk a lot more lately? Your reacts are of course important but, let the clips run a bit longer for context before commenting please. Keep up the good work!
"18000 levels of accountability" hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i watched this about 1 year ago and was disturbed by it. ban all guns to the public and thats a start
When I left school I worked at Boots the Chemist as a temp. One thing they said was customers do not remember the 95% when it goes right, only the 5% when it goes wrong.
I think the same applies with U.S policing, but the trouble is their 5% that goes wrong is just so terribly BAD!
Takes 4 years to become a cop in my country and requires collage to enter
Main problem with pepper spray is that there are people who have no reaction to it. They're small minority but they do exist. These are people who can eat chilis without getting "burn" from it.
I was taught the police were there to PREVENT crime and to PROTECT people. You should go to a police officer if you felt you needed help. Would I go to a US officer? No way!!
21:55 By what you are saying here, maybe the ubiquitous police motto "To Serve And Protect" should be changed to "To Intimidate And Oppress"...
Check the videos about police in Norway.
Well educated police never make glaring mistakes.
I believe the qualified immunity is about stopping us citizens or raiding their home and taking goods/cash etc which is perfectly legal which is bizarre to most outside the usa ❤
IMO also this "I smell weed so i need to search the car" has to change. Sometimes maybe true, but all to often just a BS excuse.
If people are this terrified from going to work, they should be in a different line of work.
I've heard and read that some US counties and cities elect their sheriffs. No idea if this is true but if it is that doesn't seem to be a good idea. Shouldn't it be competency based and not a political popularity contest.
Just the names imply the difference. Police "force" in US and police "service" just about everywhere else. It's a different mindset.
Statisticly though.... The job of being a cop isn't far more dangerous than they make it out to be.... It's just something they repeated so often that people believe it! 🤷♀😑