I tried like hell to get a Hawk 250 but everyone was out of stock for the next 4 months, so I go a 150cc scooter. At least it's a 2020 model and does 65mph. During winter I will bolt on a 171cc head and piston so it's easier on the motor. Great work Cheez.
i recently tried a skyteam dax with 190cc engine same as this, and i got say holy shit that thing got some serious power, did power wheelies in all 5 gear and a lot of torque
You will definitely want to install that oil cooler. These large displacement high output horizontal motors have minor issues with thermal control, which is why you get said oil cooler.
Great video as always... and that's the difference between the U.S and Canada. You guys get all the fun toys.. Id love to be able to get my hands on a hellcat here.
This one was awesome! Good overall edit. I especially liked the jumping around instead sped up! Huge difference to the viewer. Hellcougar sounds pretty throaty with stock carb. Bigger carb, pod filter, decent exhaust or even gutted would help. Gear her up a bit maybe 16 possible 17 if it’ll fit easy. Any faster an I’m betting your leaving a** prints in that seat for sure! Looking forward to a proper thrash session once she’s broken in some!!!
MotoCheez oh I am sure you know exactly what flavor your going with this build. It’s awesome to see more swaps!!! I don’t watch to many more tubers in this area. Mainly your channel an hearing you mention other channels by name had me check them out for sure. I figure if the people I like to watch enjoy them they are worth checking out. So hats off to you sir yet again for spreading the word of others through your channel. Looking forward to whatever happens next... ha never really know what you may drop an when!!
Yeah buddy! Let me know if you have any starter chain issues! Only thing im concerned about they also say trans are finiky and you shouldnt use kickstart
Good heads on on the wiring. I'm putting a 125cc pit bike engine on my '65 C100 Honda and mothballing the original 50cc. I just have to figure out the starter button and headlight to swap for a 12V version in the same size.
@@MotoCheez nice. When I figure everything out, I'll make a build video on my channel. I'm used to building bigger bikes. So, learning what all I can do with the small engine stuff is an awesome way to relive my childhood with my son.
Very impressive work !! Thank you for sharing that. I hope you can get a better clutch cable and if you ever have that starter side cover off again, maybe you can hammer out a new gasket with a sheet of gasket material from the automotive store. Or see if Zongshen sells the correct one that actually fits the castings ?
Some quality meme action as usual. Swap looks like it went really well all ways nice to have some more power. I'm sure when you find a bigger header it'll be even better. Hope you keep the stock exhaust, part of the fun with these bikes is keeping it quiet and stealthy in the woods!
Wish I had the patience to pull this off. I'd be over it in short order though. Maybe you should make a MotoCheez 190 swap kit where all the modifications are done and it's just a bolt on, mark it up a few hundred bucks per engine. 👍
@@MotoCheez What you did with the swap would take most people an entire weekend to accomplish. There's a market for mods that people just don't want to spend the time to do. A lot of people have more money than time. I think you'd make a pretty penny if you bought some of those 190 kits, modified them for faster install and then resell them at a nice markup to save people time. Just an idea. Keep up the great vids!
Probably, but I rather do the videos...I have people ask me all the time for mods 😁 it's easier for me to just do videos and not deal with sales and people.
thanks finally found a good test ride with the 190. i would like to see how it handles while stunting, seems like no one has made a video like that, maybe ill be the first. im thinking about to buy this engine for stunting but i dont have alot of cash so i get anxiety.
@@MotoCheez nice so whats your thoughts about the engine. Does it seem like good quality and will be lasting a long time? Also before going on a ride think about to change the exhaust you need 25mm or bigger diameter exhaust with no restrictors or the engine vill overheat and bog down.
So far it's great, I did break the starter chain (working on video) I know stock exhaust is restrictive. I ordered an aftermarket exhaust and 30mm carb!
MotoCheez yeah I just watched your more recent videos. Glad you to see you already upgraded! Just saw this video on my recommended and I love the videos. Definitely subscribed💪🏽
Excellent excellent wow that kicked it up a notch. How much do you have into it between the bike in the 190 motor? Thanks motocheez for another entertaining video....Brogs Out !
I found out the hard way with that poor fitting gasket,it filled up with muddy water over a period of time,ended up buying a new stator/flywheel.And made my own gasket in the end.
@@MotoCheez your on the zs190 swap page right? I can link you in a video if u want. But its definitely not quite but I do also have the baffle removed from the can.
@@MotoCheez Check this out at Amazon.com HIFLO FILTRO HF118 Premium Oil... www.amazon.com/dp/B07FZG4T48?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share this is the filter from amazon disregard the fact that it says it's for a can am outlander it definitely is not. But it is the correct size for the atc/grom/zs190
Hi wondering if you can help. I’ve ordered same engine for my west pit bike 140 but they also do the Welsh pit bike 190 beast and the engine looks identical to these 190’s. Am i gonna need to do the wiring etc you had to do? (I hope not as I’m not competent) thanks
I basically just done this I kept the loom of my 140 cut the main plug that goes to engine and wire up the same plug that on the zs190 colour match the wire. yellows goes to yellows white/blue to white/blue and red/black to red black and green to green and ya can't go wrong!
I guess after investing for a new motor, the Hellcougar is a keeper now, right? Only thing i dont like of the new engine is the location of the starter motor
Did you keep the stock coil? I have an icebear champion and i have all the original electronics besides cdi and regulator. Starts idles acts like its running outta gas after driving. 40 idle 120 main on a 212zs. 190zs coil a tad thicker. My engine came with harness. Running fake makuni
Well I think Im gonna pull the trigger on the daytona 190fe 4v 5speed on tbolt for the z125! I just emailed them to make sure its in stock! Do you think its the same motor mount as the zs190 cause steady garage has the bolt it motor mount for the z125 to zs190??
i had to do exactly what you did to make my carb fitt backwards. in this video you never put on air filter what did you end up doing abouut that? my cone filter hits the frame but i wonder if the filter with the curved rubber connection would fit and still stay under the plastic fairings? i really dont want to spend 40$ on the clocking flange when i could send my 10$ straight air filter back to amazon and buy the 12$ curved one.
I got the 212cc 4 valve head and legit sounds funny and won’t even start youd think after years of people having trouble with his motor they would’ve fixed it. I mean I paid 2K for this engine what a joke
Hopefully the oil cooler doesn't give you issues since it's an engine swap. I know a lot of guys that did big bore kits on Groms in the early days ended up destroying the engines because even though they had oil coolers, the stock pump wasn't strong enough to flow the oil through it. And it's quite strange to me that none of these bikes seem to have 5-speed transmissions out of the box, outside of maybe the (rather different) Kymco Spade 150. I mean, there's been a 5 speed kit for the Grom since year one, you'd think at least one of these clones would have something like that from the get go.
@@MotoCheez I would HIGHLY recommend it if it gets really hot up there in the summer. Honestly, these things should have all had oil coolers from the start.
They make a different pitch front sprocket that will fit on there, the link that I have in the description sends you to a page where you can actually pick a different pitch sprocket
this engine can run with out the oil cooler ( the radiator? ) im planning to buy one of these and put it on my honda trial 90 700$ for this motor is a bit much, they retail for 350$ in China which I have the access to the market
Yes you can definitely run this engine without the real cooler, it's just an extra insurance to make sure the oil stays cool if you're in traffic or idling in the trails a lot
First thing I gotta say is, your audio is fantastic! What do you use for a mic? Also was debating whether to buy this motor or a big bore kit for my 125. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks. When I have a helmet I use mic inside helmet, when assembling I use my Samsung S20. I was going to do a big bore but never found a confirmed fit for the engine. So I did the ZS190 swap 😁
In my town (Modesto, Ca) craigslist there is a vader with a 212. Do you think you'd have to make some adaptions to get it to fit? Asking because I don't see any on youtube so guessing it's not as easy as the 190
I'm sure they can, I don't know the bikes you're talking about too well, horizontal motors are all the same mounts. If it's vertical cylinder you could put a hawk 230cc engine on it
This was by far the best video on this engine swap. Great work!
Thanks👍😁
That's a great upgrade that wont break the bank. Thanks for showing us what we need to get it done right.
Thanks!
Well done without lengthy minutes showing nothing. Moto Cheez is the whiz, Cheese Whiz.
👍😁
I tried like hell to get a Hawk 250 but everyone was out of stock for the next 4 months, so I go a 150cc scooter. At least it's a 2020 model and does 65mph. During winter I will bolt on a 171cc head and piston so it's easier on the motor. Great work Cheez.
Yeah, they're fun! Everyone is sold out of everything!
Looks like a worthy upgrade to my Trail 90, it already has a Honda 125 engine but it's needing a rebuild. Good video.
Thanks!
"Did we just become best friends?" "Do you wanna swap pit bike motors in the garage?" "Yup."
😅😂😂😁
N ok
Sean Tourtelotte “Come eat that horse with me vegeta.”
@@nachothemacho0389 boats and hoes
i recently tried a skyteam dax with 190cc engine same as this, and i got say holy shit that thing got some serious power, did power wheelies in all 5 gear and a lot of torque
They're insane!!!
You will definitely want to install that oil cooler. These large displacement high output horizontal motors have minor issues with thermal control, which is why you get said oil cooler.
Dude the little add ons you put in your videos are just great, loving your videos and everything bud
Thanks 😁
Like watching a surgeon at work.
😅😅😅👍
Nice! My CSC tt250 is also a Zongshen. Pretty reliable so far.
I’ve got 2500 miles on mine. How many do you have?
I've got the SSR XF250, which i think is similar
@@Arvm1007 I have a little over 1000 miles on mine. Completely stock.
Good video, glad yours wasn't messed up. I fixed mine thankfully, these should be offered w a 190 when new. The swap is totally worth it buddy 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks again! Of course I didn't record the shift selector swap...
@@MotoCheez anytime buddy, lol dont feel bad I didn't video my repair. 😭😭 I didn't realize it was fixed lol. Sucks when that happens.
Nooooo!
Dona video describing it then
@@MotoCheez yea lol best I could do.
This was top quality info! Can't wait for more feedback and riding!
Thanks! More on its way
Great video as always... and that's the difference between the U.S and Canada. You guys get all the fun toys.. Id love to be able to get my hands on a hellcat here.
You can't get a version of this there? It's called an icebear too I believe
@@MotoCheez not in ontario that i can find. But it is what it is. But great work on the bikes. Always fun to watch your vids
Thanks😁
Great video as always. Others say wiring is plug n play
Thanks! Not plug N Play on this bike 😅
Excited to see what’s next! Love the fact you have the stock exhaust...
Thanks, trying to keep it quiet as possible!
This one was awesome! Good overall edit. I especially liked the jumping around instead sped up! Huge difference to the viewer. Hellcougar sounds pretty throaty with stock carb. Bigger carb, pod filter, decent exhaust or even gutted would help. Gear her up a bit maybe 16 possible 17 if it’ll fit easy. Any faster an I’m betting your leaving a** prints in that seat for sure! Looking forward to a proper thrash session once she’s broken in some!!!
Thanks! 😁 I plan on some tweaking for sure
MotoCheez oh I am sure you know exactly what flavor your going with this build. It’s awesome to see more swaps!!! I don’t watch to many more tubers in this area. Mainly your channel an hearing you mention other channels by name had me check them out for sure. I figure if the people I like to watch enjoy them they are worth checking out. So hats off to you sir yet again for spreading the word of others through your channel. Looking forward to whatever happens next... ha never really know what you may drop an when!!
Thanks!😁
Thinking about getting a CT200-EX and mounting this guy to it. Perfect mini cruiser.
Awesome cheezy new motor for Whitey Cheezy ! And that motor swap was so fast! You are a cheese whiz!
Wow! That worked out great. Kudos to your skills.
Thanks
I think I may get one of these and just build a bike around it. Looks serviceable for sure.
Nice to see the carb not sticking out the front.
I hope you start a tend, with cheap adventure/ dual sport minibikes
A camping/ overlanding type of build would be awesome
Would be fun!!!
Oh HELL YEAH! I've been waiting for this episode.👍
Yeah buddy! Let me know if you have any starter chain issues! Only thing im concerned about they also say trans are finiky and you shouldnt use kickstart
K, will do! Trans seems good sofar as it breaks in, can't use kick anyway
Good heads on on the wiring. I'm putting a 125cc pit bike engine on my '65 C100 Honda and mothballing the original 50cc. I just have to figure out the starter button and headlight to swap for a 12V version in the same size.
I'm putting the old 125 on my newer Z50
@@MotoCheez nice. When I figure everything out, I'll make a build video on my channel. I'm used to building bigger bikes. So, learning what all I can do with the small engine stuff is an awesome way to relive my childhood with my son.
Awesome. It why I do it too
Should try to get the 212 big bore kit for it next. There's no replacement for displacement.
I saw that kit!
Lengthen pipe at exhaust shop. BBR just put a 190 engine and had the same problem. I think they have top pipe where it can't get smashed.
Great video as usual. impressive upgrade.
Thanks!
Gotta say it was thanks to your video I was able to finish my swap today hahaha
AWESOME
cool ass shit. this is how you build a proper "grom clone" for less than a used grom. you should definately do a video of this vs a grom
Thanks. I will Do a VS soon
Very impressive work !! Thank you for sharing that. I hope you can get a better clutch cable and if you ever have that starter side cover off again, maybe you can hammer out a new gasket with a sheet of gasket material from the automotive store. Or see if Zongshen sells the correct one that actually fits the castings ?
Thanks! I do have to investigate that
Aye. 'Dat Hellcat has fire in his blood....now. 😎
Cheez gets things done; nice job!
Thanks!
Gotta say; You do some cool stuff MC... 👍
Thanks!!
Great video been looking for a quality build of this engine
You may need a bigger auxiliary pop bottle. Lol. I think the sound was different. Good video.
Let's go 190CC!!! Wooohooo
put that hellcat 125cc engine on the pit bike..
Z50!
Some quality meme action as usual. Swap looks like it went really well all ways nice to have some more power. I'm sure when you find a bigger header it'll be even better. Hope you keep the stock exhaust, part of the fun with these bikes is keeping it quiet and stealthy in the woods!
I want quiet for sure
You make it seem so easy. You just know what your doing
It's not that hard to do the swap
Wish I had the patience to pull this off. I'd be over it in short order though. Maybe you should make a MotoCheez 190 swap kit where all the modifications are done and it's just a bolt on, mark it up a few hundred bucks per engine. 👍
It's only the stator plug and swapping the shift indicator (which I didn't record) rest is bolt in
@@MotoCheez And grinding off the petcock and modifying the exhaust and grinding off the sprocket cover....etc.
Yeah.... I see what you're saying...
@@MotoCheez What you did with the swap would take most people an entire weekend to accomplish. There's a market for mods that people just don't want to spend the time to do. A lot of people have more money than time. I think you'd make a pretty penny if you bought some of those 190 kits, modified them for faster install and then resell them at a nice markup to save people time. Just an idea. Keep up the great vids!
Probably, but I rather do the videos...I have people ask me all the time for mods 😁 it's easier for me to just do videos and not deal with sales and people.
thanks finally found a good test ride with the 190. i would like to see how it handles while stunting, seems like no one has made a video like that, maybe ill be the first.
im thinking about to buy this engine for stunting but i dont have alot of cash so i get anxiety.
Yeah, do one... Be good to see. Have another good ride going up at noon today
@@MotoCheez nice so whats your thoughts about the engine. Does it seem like good quality and will be lasting a long time? Also before going on a ride think about to change the exhaust you need 25mm or bigger diameter exhaust with no restrictors or the engine vill overheat and bog down.
So far it's great, I did break the starter chain (working on video) I know stock exhaust is restrictive. I ordered an aftermarket exhaust and 30mm carb!
I have a 26mm on my 110cc. Runs like a bat outta hell low end and High, definitely look into a 30+mm. These engines love to breath and flow.
Absolutely! I can't believe they don't put a larger carburetor at the factory.
MotoCheez yeah I just watched your more recent videos. Glad you to see you already upgraded! Just saw this video on my recommended and I love the videos. Definitely subscribed💪🏽
Thanks man! 😁
Great job!
Thanks!
sweet epic bro its ganna be fun!
👍👍👍👍🔥
Super cool 😎 Mr. Cheez. Hope you’re having a great day. Happy 4th of July. 👍
Thanks you too!
Excellent excellent wow that kicked it up a notch.
How much do you have into it between the bike in the 190 motor?
Thanks motocheez for another entertaining video....Brogs Out !
The bike was $1060 (more now) and the motor was $700 so still half the price of a Grom and much faster
Black engine FTW 👌🏼
2V, correct ? Seems like you made Easy work of it !
Yes, 2V
I seriously need that terminal kit.
I found out the hard way with that poor fitting gasket,it filled up with muddy water over a period of time,ended up buying a new stator/flywheel.And made my own gasket in the end.
Great video 👍👍👍🙂
Thanks!
Thank you for this nice and informative video. Can you guide me if can use this engine in my 100 cc honda motorcycle?
If it's a horizontal style engine, yes
I have the same motor! From david! 73 no tuck gps. I also paid for the shift star fix. The grom uses the same oil filter.
I used everything from my old bike even the grom performance exhaust bent for the 125 it fit right up.
Sweet! Thanks for the filter info.. is the exhaust loud?
@@MotoCheez your on the zs190 swap page right? I can link you in a video if u want. But its definitely not quite but I do also have the baffle removed from the can.
@@MotoCheez but it's not obnoxious. It definitely sounds like crf250r ish
@@MotoCheez Check this out at Amazon.com
HIFLO FILTRO HF118 Premium Oil... www.amazon.com/dp/B07FZG4T48?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share this is the filter from amazon disregard the fact that it says it's for a can am outlander it definitely is not. But it is the correct size for the atc/grom/zs190
Great job but your audio made me think my earbuds went bad lol almost chunked em till i went to another video
Sorry! The settings were off when I rendered this video. Just got a new laptop.... It's been corrected.
Yep i watched another 1 of your videos to find out it was on your end lol thanks all your other vids are great audio.
Thanks 😁
Great video! Do you remember where you got the RPM signal from on the ZS-190 for your tachometer?
Thanks, not off the top of my head but I'm pretty sure I put it in the video it was the yellow wire possibly
It seems like that gasket is designed for an other motor, and they went 'good enough!'
Agreed, if it fit correctly it would seal ok
Nice video n links!
Thanks!
Always love the video cheezy
GREAT VIDEO!
Thanks! 😅
Hi wondering if you can help. I’ve ordered same engine for my west pit bike 140 but they also do the Welsh pit bike 190 beast and the engine looks identical to these 190’s. Am i gonna need to do the wiring etc you had to do? (I hope not as I’m not competent) thanks
I basically just done this I kept the loom of my 140 cut the main plug that goes to engine and wire up the same plug that on the zs190 colour match the wire. yellows goes to yellows white/blue to white/blue and red/black to red black and green to green and ya can't go wrong!
How was the sprocket setup did you like the 15 tooth? or did you go with a 16 or 17? Also did you change the back sprocket at all?
I changed but went back with stock gearing.
I guess after investing for a new motor, the Hellcougar is a keeper now, right?
Only thing i dont like of the new engine is the location of the starter motor
Yeah, not a fan of the starter underneath either for off-road
@@MotoCheez well i guess you are going to figure it out how to make a protector in the next days 😉🖒
Nice build👍
Thanks 😁
Did you keep the stock coil? I have an icebear champion and i have all the original electronics besides cdi and regulator. Starts idles acts like its running outta gas after driving. 40 idle 120 main on a 212zs. 190zs coil a tad thicker. My engine came with harness. Running fake makuni
Sounds like your gas tank vent is plugged. Open tank when that happens to see if it's venting
@@MotoCheez That or crud in my tank ;/ stuck a magnet in my tank and picked up all kinds a nastys GRR
Mmmyeah
30.mm Nibbi will work very well i put it in mine.
What exhaust did you run? Looking for someone quiet if possible.
Well I think Im gonna pull the trigger on the daytona 190fe 4v 5speed on tbolt for the z125! I just emailed them to make sure its in stock! Do you think its the same motor mount as the zs190 cause steady garage has the bolt it motor mount for the z125 to zs190??
The 4v is 4 valve. The mounts should be same I'd assume but IDK honestly
I just was looking for this 🙏🙏
I kind of wish Zongshen would come out with a 300cc for upright motors.
Me too! And bigger
Great content. Loved it. Found a suplyer for your merch??
Motoloot said it was almost ready last week so I figured I'd wait...
That 190 is hating that stock muffler.
I know! Been searching for the best solution...
i had to do exactly what you did to make my carb fitt backwards. in this video you never put on air filter what did you end up doing abouut that? my cone filter hits the frame but i wonder if the filter with the curved rubber connection would fit and still stay under the plastic fairings? i really dont want to spend 40$ on the clocking flange when i could send my 10$ straight air filter back to amazon and buy the 12$ curved one.
I did put an air filter on. It's in the next episode I believe
How fast yall want this kitty to go 🤪. 👇
Fat enough to take on highways 😁
All those wires confused me. Good job.
Thanks! Was pretty basic wiring
I got the 212cc 4 valve head and legit sounds funny and won’t even start youd think after years of people having trouble with his motor they would’ve fixed it. I mean I paid 2K for this engine what a joke
Sounds funny? Like starter chain? That's really the only issue I've heard of.
I bought a Lifan KP150, my own version of whitey , going get a big bore kit that takes it to 210cc
Nice! Let me know how it goes. I might get one for Florida.
@@MotoCheez so far it's pretty peppy just adding a 28mm pwk and port matching the intake port
Hopefully the oil cooler doesn't give you issues since it's an engine swap. I know a lot of guys that did big bore kits on Groms in the early days ended up destroying the engines because even though they had oil coolers, the stock pump wasn't strong enough to flow the oil through it.
And it's quite strange to me that none of these bikes seem to have 5-speed transmissions out of the box, outside of maybe the (rather different) Kymco Spade 150. I mean, there's been a 5 speed kit for the Grom since year one, you'd think at least one of these clones would have something like that from the get go.
Agreed.. I'm keeping an eye and ear on temperature. May not use cooler at all, although I'd like to have it on the summer days
@@MotoCheez I would HIGHLY recommend it if it gets really hot up there in the summer. Honestly, these things should have all had oil coolers from the start.
The link for where to buy that engine is gone where can I find it please point me in the direction
Should be a zs190 face book group, guy sells them in there
did you ever have to do shift star mod? and did you ever fill that gap with silicone?
No, never had an issue with shifting at all
@@MotoCheez thank god. i just ordered the engine straight from china 600$. thanks for the video
will be on a turbo tho?
I engined swapped my 125cc pit bike and put this motor on but the chain doesn't fit on the front sprocket what do I do??
They make a different pitch front sprocket that will fit on there, the link that I have in the description sends you to a page where you can actually pick a different pitch sprocket
@@MotoCheez AHH okay thanks brother
@@MotoCheez which link?
Do you think you need to rejet again? I bet a new exhaust and rejet it'd really wake it up. Do you have any bolt on exhaust system options?
Definitely can gain rejetting.. looking into pipes
Well you just convinced me to do the 212 swap. My wife isnt gonna be happy 😭
🤣😂😅👍👍👍
Could a splined end (if it's splined) from the kickstart lever be cut off welded on to a tube and welded back on to extend it?
Yes. I thought about doing one for under seat in emergency
this engine can run with out the oil cooler ( the radiator? ) im planning to buy one of these and put it on my honda trial 90
700$ for this motor is a bit much, they retail for 350$ in China which I have the access to the market
Yes you can definitely run this engine without the real cooler, it's just an extra insurance to make sure the oil stays cool if you're in traffic or idling in the trails a lot
First thing I gotta say is, your audio is fantastic! What do you use for a mic?
Also was debating whether to buy this motor or a big bore kit for my 125. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks. When I have a helmet I use mic inside helmet, when assembling I use my Samsung S20. I was going to do a big bore but never found a confirmed fit for the engine. So I did the ZS190 swap 😁
Yoy should try out either the 115cc daytona or 190daytona they have the best preformers
I looked into them. This is 2 valve so a little less power than the daytona but half the price! 😁
@@MotoCheez wacth @rottaraicing video aboat it its a crazy motor but you need to take care of it
Your videos are getting too good dude
Thanks! 😁
I really want to put that in my Honda CD70
That would fly.
@@MotoCheez probably
Thanks alot!!!
Got my 190swap in and tried it yesterday and the clutch is stuck, that sucks on a brand new engine.
Mine was too. It's normal, try warming engine up then starting it in gear like I did in my video
Ever find out the length of the correct clutch cable?
Sorry, no. Still using it the way I routed it.
@@MotoCheez Thanks for the reply and thank you for sharing this video. Will be using this as a guide for a 212cc swap.
@SeanLeonDrumz awesome, it's a great upgrade!
Make your own air filter and make it BIG
Been thinking about it! A quiet one.
I have a question where did you get that box to make a wire hardness. I need one like those to make me some.
If.links good. Should be in description or MotoCheez.com.
In my town (Modesto, Ca) craigslist there is a vader with a 212. Do you think you'd have to make some adaptions to get it to fit? Asking because I don't see any on youtube so guessing it's not as easy as the 190
212 is same mounting points as far as I know
I have been interested in these 125s but I'm 5'11 and 240lb. This may be my answer.
I'm an inch shorter..
good shit brother u think this will work in my kp mini 150 0r should i just upgrade the carb
I'd try rhe carb, although it should fit
Can this motor be swapped on the XPRO X7 and the XPRO ninja 125c
I'm sure they can, I don't know the bikes you're talking about too well, horizontal motors are all the same mounts. If it's vertical cylinder you could put a hawk 230cc engine on it
Ooo I thought this was the Daytona 190 🤷♂️
Just ordered my zs190 and exhaust from David cant wait to get it and install it in my x20. Did you end up figuring out what clutch cable to use?
No. Still using stock cable, works great!
Oh hell yeah!!!