Not gonna argue about Jack getting nerfed, but I must mention that having him puke out his steroids was very out of the blue. Sure it was a reference, but it originally happened under circunstances that made it very significant, hence why it never happened again. Here they showed it in a way that makes it look like it's something Jack does as a regular power-up, which is just wrong
@pablog.511 ты просто клоун, рост Райена 188см, в то время как у Джека Ханмы 243см. Посмотри в аниме, у них разница в росте незначительная. Всех персонажей бойца Баки понерфили, чтобы нищий верс Асуры не отлетел нахуй от одного удара😂
@@jinmochizukibro if his moves were properly displayed and destructive as they were in the anime . Ohma would be dead. Every kengan character should have lost every fight they participated in .
1:28 I KNEW IT. That's the form Jack took when he faced Baki back in the day where his body shrank from drug overdose! I can't believe they brought that back!
look at his jaws its definitely after the pickle fight it couldnt happen there and there are a lot of scenes copied from the baki vs jack episode this shit is just cringe
@@DarkBlackKnight3 start with the manga, since the anime censored many things. If you already read the manga, just start with the old Grappler Baki (2001).
In the manga raian was just purely toying with ohma . Its turns out he was an even bigger monster. I loved the crossover. People just want to complain for se sake of it
Toying? That's a stretch just because he did not use kure techniques doesnt mean he was toying. He was at his limit thus unable to use removal anymore. He ran out of juice before ohma did. I don't know how was that toying? Lol.
@@litttlemiguelkengan characters can shake mountains with they’re punches, y’all downplay the kengen verse cuz “realism” when there’s nothing real about kengen 😭they’re OP asf & would beat most baki characters
This isn't a real fight. This is just an Easter Egg match. -Jack vomiting and using max mode on Raian similar to Baki making him puke before. -Pickkle barging in like he did during father and son fight(this is a foreshadowing of it) -Jack's face before puking is a reference to Sikorsky's face when he got low blowed a lot -Baki telling Jack to stop is a reference to the Hospital scene where he said the same to Jack, except this time Jack listens -Everyone inside of the ring is a reference to everyone ready to take on Yujiro during the maximum tournament when he barged in at random.
@@anthonyroundtree5 As strong as Doppo is at that time he was probably a high mid tier in Baki at most. Just like he is close to high mid tier now. Basically what I'm trying to say is that Doppo is much closer to current Kengan levels than the actual high tiers in the Baki verse.
@@trav8007bro I read both kengan and baki and always been a fan of both, but I want both of you to explain clearly how Raian is stronger than Jack with feats. Because you guys making it seem like raian is levels above jack and that’s fucking crazy 😂
Jack's supposed to be 7-8' tall at this current point. he looks more like 6'4" when he was first introduced...completely took away his imposing Aura that makes him unique. "go watch Jack vs. Sikorsky for a more accurate size difference, since Sikorsky is only 1 inch taller than Raian"
So Raian powers up with Removal and Jack powers down with Puke. I’m more of a Kengan fan than Baki but even I thought that was horseshit😂 Thing is too I could see Raian and Jack actually being buddies and great sparring partners over Ohma. These two would absolutely have a great time on a slaughter fest against their enemies.
I don´t know anything about Kengan, but It´s obvious that Baki characters were nerfed. I mean, it felt like it was the jack from the maximun tournament or even weaker.
That’s what I’m saying bro, based on where Jack bit Raian there’s no way he would be standing. All of the bites were on major arteries meaning at that point Raian would have died due to blood loss
@@literaryguide5292 it’s not science homie it’s a reference to the OG Baki anime. When Jack fought Baki he bit and severed his brachial artery. In that fight Motobe said Baki only had 3 minutes before losing consciousness. Here Jack severed arteries in Raians calf bicep and trap. So nah I wasn’t using “science”
@@AstroDoop a big appreciation for your anime knowledge and observation bro ... I am just a random guy scrolling, not a fan of anime. But I also like the ogre 🙂
@@AstroDoopnah it’s beacause Kure clan people are literally fucking bulit diffrent there ancestore wu hei killed gods demons and beast alike he was the ultimate begin it’s not beacause oh therr in a anime is beacause there body’s are built to be almost indestructible
The creators of both shows are well aware that Baki has stronger characters. This is one of those movies where you ignore facts & just enjoy the fights.
I think Kengan skills were nerfed through all fights, but this one seems more accurate to the character of Raian he likes to fight like that. Also I wasn't expecting Raian to pull out the Zeus diamond form card lmao. The crossover was a really good experience despite all
I see a lot of people saying this and that about nerfing, obviously the creators of both shows had a hand in who they thought would win, lose or be evenly matched😂so stop crying
I DONT CARE WHAT NUN OF YALL SAY. Ima Kengan fan and Baki CLEARS kengan universe without no damn effort. These characters were nerfed. OHMA was able to beat Kure with punches and techniques. But Jack is literally bitting holes in him now he don’t die? HOW. Jack is also way taller and evidently stongsr then Kure, even with his release.
You just asked how the genetically modified human known as the Kure devil didn’t die from having holes… I get your points but this is Raian. Any other character should die though
Writers are still shitting on Jack, why would they make a panel in Baki where Jack takes a near full force slap from yujiro un injured and then make him lose to whatever the fuck this shit is
I guess this is supposed to take place before baki even “beats yujiro “ so that hasn’t happened yet but even then Baki characters should have cleaned house
@@cringegoblin5227 Jack is 6'4 here yet has the injury on his mouth he receives when he's 7 foot vs Pickle. There isn't a drop of consistency. This size jack should not have that injury.
It’s because if they made every Baki character win it would make a boring crossover. So they gotta balance it out to make it fun but I agree that jack would’ve solo’d.
Bringing Kengan characters into the Baki animation style (the Baki universe) means they get buffed literally making them larger and extra muscular and power scaling them based on mental illness
Honestly, considering his developement in Baki Rahen, this match with Raian fits right in with building a base of humility similar to his fights with pickle, that caused a massive jump in his power. This movie is in all accords a treat for both fanbases.
Idk why he cut it out but at 1:03 Jack swallows the rest of his drugs and thats why his veins were showing. Thats also the reason why he didnt talk much. At that moment I really felt bad for Jack for ruining his body this way
This is Jack after pickle and before the ancient samurai. This same Jack is also expected to lose pretty easily to another character (won’t spoil for anime only watchers) whoms power doesn’t nearly scale as high as either Jack or Raian but does so by technique and weapons. (He even stated himself that if he took more than a couple blows from Jack he’d probably die) When it comes to power scaling of the current time I think this is a very reasonable, because Jack hasn’t adopted anything true to himself yet. He’s strong but lacked refinement. When he decides to actually train and do something over being just a brawler we see something come out from it. But truly there isn’t anything Jack has speciality wise like his brother and father. No demon back, brain, or whatever. Just himself, a set of metal teeth, Goudou, and the drugs he needs to stay at 100%.
Kengan ashura fighters forgot that there anime has monologues and they rant on during fights but baking fighters have INTERNAL monologues and the narrator just describes a punch like a Apache helicopter
@@jauneork278 idk I mean RAIAN height is only 188 but He looks very tall compared to another like pickle or jack even baki that 167 cm he make baki look like 140cm compared to raian. l feel like the height of raian should reach only jack chest cuz even Sikorsky if you remember his height is only 190 when he first time met jack and that jack height is 213 cm the forehead of Sikorsky is only reach jack chin or neck but in this cross over that raian is only 188 cm but he look like he nearly same size as jack
All this talk about baki characters being nerfed, I personally think raian wouldve beaten Jack even if Jack was at his normal strength at this point in the anime, raian is even stronger than ohma and only lost to plot so this is very fitting (not to mention raian only used two kure Clan techniques, removal and the one where he put his hands in jacks mouth which wasn't successful) so imagine if he did use them
@@lolegaia they're not 💀 One proof is definitely biscuit oliva... he's the single proof why there's no kengan character stronger than him and there's numerous character that are now stronger than him
Definitely nerfs on both sides. If this was post pickle baki fighting kengan tournament ohma, baki would have won. Mostly cause Ohma wasn't using nico style like he does later on in the franchise. Also note how long he uses that "possessed by a god" state or however it's called. Definitely something that ties more into the first series and not omega. Basically, ashura scaled Ohma would have lost most likely. Both sides had their own nerfs and such, and in the end it's simply made for entertainment anyways. I'm an avid fan of both series, so sue me for stating my opinion XD
People saying it's a robbery yet raian seriously does clap jack in a fight especially this jack since this is pre metal teeth and training. Remind you, raian ripped a dude in 2 from his mouth
Considering they used 6'4 Jack for this fight when Jack is 8 feet atm. Yes... He absolutely would wreck Raian's shit. They literally had Jack lose most of his muscle and get limb de-lengthening surgery for this fight. 7 Foot jack vs Pickle is enough.
Guys, Remember that this fight take Place after pickle's ark and before the fight between father and son That mean that jack was already weakened from the fight against pickle and was still ab impulsive fighter, far away from the calculator beast he become from tge the sumo arc Jack uses his "slim form" (i don't Remember the name) that made him stronger but smaller than before, also in tha final act jack lost because instead of trying to free himself from Raian choke , he kept moving forward for the final bite (that is in line with the character in this part of the story) Also jack was Declared defeated, but he could have keep fighting
It seems that the Baki characters take place after the Pickle Arc, and the Kengan characters are still in Ashura. No bias or anythting but I would’ve had this a clean sweep if not for the fan enjoyment. Hanayama beating Saw Paing was a really good fight, which I do think Hanayama and his death grip would’ve won. Jack recovering after fighting Pickle, would’ve won due to multiple bite wounds leading to Raian and his defeat. Baki displayed all his techniques or a majority of them, but they weren’t properly effective as that were shown and meant to be. Baki had gone toe to toe with Yujiro, who is the top dog and he put up a good fight, so him being surprised by Ohma and his pressure was a bit weird if not for the fan base. Ohma would directly lose in this instance even when he went into Advance, Baki brought out his demon back which also enhanced himself and he would’ve came out on top if it had continued. The sole reason why they even stopped fighting was because Ohma wasn’t in advance mode anymore, or that’s atleast what it looked like to me. ANYWAYS, it was a good short film from both verses.
I think this not only takes place after Pickle but immediatly before the Father vs Yujiro arc so Baki hasnt yet faced Yujiro, you can see that Pickle still has his tooth intact. So yeah Baki here is not at his peak, also I would have really liked the reaction of Kengan fighters to the Triceratops fist
They are not taken from anywhere. Crossovers work in a "anything is canon" type of scenarios generally, hence why Raian tried to used a Kengan Omega move mid fight.
@@NoahToledo-xo5pj Could be that case, but it still shows instances of where they come from within arcs and time. Jack has his face scar from when pickle bit half his jaw off, and Pickle himself makes an appearance. And Katsumi is missing his arm from when it got torn off from Pickle, which leads to my original statement that probably happened after the pickle and father-son arc.
@@TheseHandsAreRatedE That's because they are the recent tv versions but crossovers rarely used any stablished canon. Is less about deciding who wins through math and more about character interactions and fanservice, hence why Jack lost since his role in Baki is to be a jobber while Raian's role is that of a powerful rival so the interactions are decided on that.
@@NoahToledo-xo5pj Yep, this is definitely not canon in either shows which is obvious. But it’s just where I’m getting when seeing what characters are appearing within the show and what events have been likely to have been occurred.
Reference to older Baki series where Jack lost to Baki because of a headlock. A lot are pissed because this isn't a real fight but more of an easter egg/Nostalgia one
@@MICHAELTUMANGDAY Raian also killed a fighter named Mokichi in Kengan Ashura with a choke. That was the reference i picked up from it. Didn't know jack lost to a headlock in the Bakiverse
This is making me appreciate Baki Rahen even more and they’d better do a rematch because I want Raian to feel metal teeth rip into him harder than what he got here. Great fight, but my god making Jack fight like in the Grappler days was infuriating to watch in some places.
@@Awakemanga Jack did another limb Extension surgery after the Miyamoto Musashi arc, and they took Baki characters after the Pickle arc and Kengan Characters after tournament ending with few twists.
@@criticalfists87 i know bro,but in son of ogre Jack is more Big and strong, kengan vs baki it's after son of ogre has no sense,fan service how You Say
@@usherglow3269Man why you people get so mad, I also like the Baki verse a bit more but love both, I absolutely enjoyed it. For me personally it was a draw between Jack and Raian, so idk why you get all mad.
@@00Grimreaper00don’t know him. Is he like a god or something? Because if vader isn’t capable to choke you and break youre Neck immediately he can’t be human.
thats the best schizophrenia skill i've ever seen in this series, normal doctors use inhibitors to block that kind of activity for people who cant manage the symptoms, this guy just did the opposite, which is why its called removal, removing the inhibitors so he can fight to the fullest, this will not only make him strong but activate the schizophrenia, like heightened sense of hearing, vision, even feeling, similar to the endorphin rush, which causes a split mind, split mind actually means split reality, but a scientist will never say that, they dont know that the human is traveling through all realities in their lives, which when they switch realities, the lower ranks see it as they are delusional, which they dont have the same eyes, hears, and such. like aang learning chi sao from toph, say its a delusion all u want, but the blind person has to other choice but to be schizophrenic, the cant follow your misinformation, they dont have the same reality, they have to use their ears.
It's always the Baki fans getting salty for no reason over this. Prime example of why certain fandoms make things like this crossover unbearable because they just cry, complain, or say this that and the other thing. Just watch it to enjoy it and recognize that each fighter from their respective universes are cracked and OP. PSA: If you read the manga you'd know that Saw Paing, Raian, and Ohma in this crossover were still at Kengan Ashura levels of strength. Kengan Omega (the sequel series to Ashura) broke their power scales even more. I won't spoil it since it's a great manga, that should be read it if you like seeing crazy feats. of strength, martial arts, and technique, but Long story short their powers and strengths grew and are still growing as the story progresses. Despite knowing all this as a Kengan fan I wasn't upset when Saw Paing got bested, Raian wasn't fighting seriously, or Ohma got tested by Baki. It was all enjoyable at the end of the day, so please stop being salty Baki fans with the "Aw, so-and-so were nerfed therefore it's trash!", because guess what, that statement can be used as an excuse for any relevant thing nowadays. E.g. Batman beating Superman ; Master Chief beating Doomslayer ; Naruto beating Ichigo etc.
Yeah. The main thing I learned from this crossover happening is how completely insufferable the majority of the Baki fan base is. I never really read the manga, but I know certain things, but I really don’t wanna get into it now because of its community lol.
@@jauneork278 well if you haven't read the baki manga Jack is that movie is 7 feet tall which is 213 and this was his first sergury after getting defeated by his brother Baki and later on that Pickle who was suppose to be 8 feet all but his actual height might be 7'5 or 7'6 and Jack fighting against Pickle Jack was still 7 feet tall when they meet and after getting defeated by Pickle twice later on in Baki dou which is the musashi arc Jack has gotten another surgery standing at 7'11 which is 243cm after getting defeated by Pickle
@GiantGorilla. Jack towers over Sikorski who is taller than Raian before the Pickle Fight. Jack here is clearly about the same size as Raian. So no. This Jack is 6'4
@@jauneork278 no Sikorsky is one inch taller than Raian and Jack was still 7 feet tall when he fought against Ali Jr and Sikorsky he's height wasn't nerfed at all he was is not 7'11 after getting a 2nd surgery in the musashi arc when he got defeated by Pickle
Kengan fans is so delusional i bet raian couldn't even go toe to toe with pickle while jack did just be happy your favorite anime got famous because of this crossover
I'm a Baki fan but some of y'all complaining about Baki being nerfed is cringe lol. The fights are supposed to be entertaining and respect fans of both franchises, not a fanservice where your favorite characters stomps the other.
But that's exactly what happened in the fight, raian seemed overpowering and jack like his toy. Jack may not be the strongest but he's not that weak either
As soon as I see kids arguing about such stuff, I know how stupid they are. Of course they had to respect both franchises and any other way of handling it would've been shit. Personally I cared for the entertainment behind the fights, not who's stronger. Wish it had more of them tho, my only "complaint".
Jack being choked out is not entertaining. Some how Baki rear naked choked Jack didnt bother him but Rian just lift him up by the throat is so humiliating to Jack as a character man.
@@Vertigo2688if you respect both franchises then make them accurate? nerfing a character just for the sake of a crossover is wrong??? isn't it the writer's fault they can't make a compelling and entertaining battle between two characters with differing power levels? and you call us stupid?
Nah that not real... Jack is something different, remember that jack gave upper cut to pickle that went him flying if he gets that raian will be dead man.. also jack got too nerfed in this movie Not only Jack also every characters
Yeah, this is why its hard to make an official VS battle style anime between series. If they keep the power level as it is without equalizer the fight will be boring, and the crowd will also fight each other. And when they did use equalizer crowd will still fighting among themselves. But hey, atleast the anime fight will not be boring.
Why do people believe this Jack is strong ?, current manga Jack i truly believe is quite strong but if you believe that this Jack is strong enought to defeat Raian, then you probably won´t like what Motobe will do to Jack in the next season. I love Baki way more than Kengan Ashura but in reality i have to say that Raian is stronger than Jack, if we are talking about Baki Rahen Jack and Kengan Omega Raian i probably have to give the victory to Jack but sadly this Jack has just recover from his fight with Pickle there´s no way he wins againts a Raian that is even stronger tha Ohma
Pickle: don't touch my first kiss
😂😂
the reporter?
@@sandygarcia3567 the reporter just an appetizer, the real kiss with a passion is with jack 😂
💀
@@Dxco31 He gave the reporter his pickle
Not gonna argue about Jack getting nerfed, but I must mention that having him puke out his steroids was very out of the blue.
Sure it was a reference, but it originally happened under circunstances that made it very significant, hence why it never happened again. Here they showed it in a way that makes it look like it's something Jack does as a regular power-up, which is just wrong
More like a power down honestly
Agreed
Bro Rian didn't used any Kure techniques to kill
He never put his finger on Jack's throat
@@Sr.YOSHI99 true, but what does that have to do with what I wrote?
Have watched the series hes jacked up on peds😂
It’s crazy how he used a homer Simpson tactic to win
“Why you little”-Ahh choke
@@RapturedSinner_Spanishchinese😂😂😂😂
The Bart killer technique
Kure secret technique: why you little!
Boys, Baki characters werent nerfed, Kengan characters where buffed at Baki levels 😂
@pablog.511 ты просто клоун, рост Райена 188см, в то время как у Джека Ханмы 243см. Посмотри в аниме, у них разница в росте незначительная. Всех персонажей бойца Баки понерфили, чтобы нищий верс Асуры не отлетел нахуй от одного удара😂
No they weren’t. Both sides were shown respect
Yes hhahaha
If its manga version of kure raian maybe not that much this guy is a monster
Cope and seethe lil bro
Looks like the Baki crew was nerfed back to maximum tournament levels
How when baking used all his moves against ohma? Baki got a longs ways to go
its literaly post pickle arc characters at their maximum dumbfuck, they aren't nerfed at all.
@@jinmochizukibro if his moves were properly displayed and destructive as they were in the anime . Ohma would be dead. Every kengan character should have lost every fight they participated in .
Cry about it
@@the_madson lil bro it’s an animation at the end of the day we js gotta except ts was ass
1:28 I KNEW IT. That's the form Jack took when he faced Baki back in the day where his body shrank from drug overdose! I can't believe they brought that back!
look at his jaws its definitely after the pickle fight it couldnt happen there and there are a lot of scenes copied from the baki vs jack episode this shit is just cringe
That form wasn’t even necessary, they basically just nerfed Jack. He would’ve been able to fight well without that
They need to nerf jack to maximum tournament arc level that why rain won.sukune arc jack will destroy raiam
@@BullyMaguire-ym8lrwhat's the difference between sukune arc jack?
@@NatTurnergrandsonChrisdorner
I read it a while ago, but I think Jack gets bigger, and gets a titanium jaw. Not entirely sure though.
1:57 Raian was about to give Jack the Alan treatment but he was having none of it. What an epic fight.
He was probably getting his fingers chopped because he is definitely not overpowering Jack's jaw strength 😂
@@Manny_liftzhe got rocked by pickle. This is pre reihan jack, reian is stronger currently.
@@ColdNorth0628 jack is also getting stronger in the manga
The fact he probably already did it because the crossover is Post KvP 💀
Yes I also noticed it😂 but I knew that Jack is stronger than Alan Soo his safe
I like the studio paid tribute to the old Grappler Baki by having Jack threw up drugs and having his muscles shrunk, they are nice details tho.
Still wish they animated the first manga
@@someolddude3827FACTS they even animated yujiro vs Baki for the first baki season on Netflix
just casually cutting weight mid fight is hilarious
Where should I start with Baki? The reboot or original?
@@DarkBlackKnight3 start with the manga, since the anime censored many things. If you already read the manga, just start with the old Grappler Baki (2001).
"Ayo Jack, what noise does the cow make?" 0:31
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
NOOOO you ruined it!😂
🤣
AHHH MY STOMACH HURTS FROM LAUGHING,
Good one bro 😂😂😂
0:32
💀
Pickle really pulled up and was looking at Jack like "This b*** didn't just try to steal my whole flow"
0:48 jack's face was like: 👊😙
😂
Pickle found out his boyfriend Jack was fighting another man 😂
Raian wanted a piece of Pickle too and Jack got jealous as well
😂
My thoughts entirely
Bro they shit this show
0:52 Jack gave Raian an 8 piece🤣🤣
Raian was stomping on jacks head😂
I dont mind the cast being nerfed/buffed depening how you look at it, the fights were genuinely really fun
Feels weird seeing Kengan characters with this animation style after watching them with the other one for 3 seasons
In my opinion it looks better than the CGI, but I completely understand why it would look weird
1:58 bro was about to rip him in half bro
Kengan omega raian kure 💀
In the manga raian was just purely toying with ohma . Its turns out he was an even bigger monster. I loved the crossover. People just want to complain for se sake of it
Toying? That's a stretch just because he did not use kure techniques doesnt mean he was toying. He was at his limit thus unable to use removal anymore. He ran out of juice before ohma did. I don't know how was that toying? Lol.
@@placidopenitente1904 Ok
Yeah but in manga kengan fighters got absolutely dogged on they all got one tapped jack toyed with this bozo I can understand why people are mad
@@litttlemiguel I agree
@@litttlemiguelkengan characters can shake mountains with they’re punches, y’all downplay the kengen verse cuz “realism” when there’s nothing real about kengen 😭they’re OP asf & would beat most baki characters
This isn't a real fight.
This is just an Easter Egg match.
-Jack vomiting and using max mode on Raian similar to Baki making him puke before.
-Pickkle barging in like he did during father and son fight(this is a foreshadowing of it)
-Jack's face before puking is a reference to Sikorsky's face when he got low blowed a lot
-Baki telling Jack to stop is a reference to the Hospital scene where he said the same to Jack, except this time Jack listens
-Everyone inside of the ring is a reference to everyone ready to take on Yujiro during the maximum tournament when he barged in at random.
Bullshit of a fight fr but cool references
These fan animations are getting better and better
And the actual anime
@@gabrielcosta2905they know it's a joke
we need a rematch of this fight raian with kure techniques and jack with his godou
it would be so lit
That fight would be to the death for sure lol
Agreed
They hoed my man Jack this fight gotta hand real quick when pickles showed up 😂😂😂😂
Nah, you underestimate raian. You had some legit strong fighters lose in the first round of kengan.
Apparently, doppo might have been one of them.
@@anthonyroundtree5 As strong as Doppo is at that time he was probably a high mid tier in Baki at most. Just like he is close to high mid tier now. Basically what I'm trying to say is that Doppo is much closer to current Kengan levels than the actual high tiers in the Baki verse.
u´glazing baki i aint even know why they pick jack to fight raian jack is no near raian levels lmao
@@gootbroly5544on God just bout every comment glazing Baki like Kegan characters are jobbers or sum
@@trav8007bro I read both kengan and baki and always been a fan of both, but I want both of you to explain clearly how Raian is stronger than Jack with feats. Because you guys making it seem like raian is levels above jack and that’s fucking crazy 😂
I sure do love seeing Baki characters being actually animated at last
Jack's supposed to be 7-8' tall at this current point. he looks more like 6'4" when he was first introduced...completely took away his imposing Aura that makes him unique. "go watch Jack vs. Sikorsky for a more accurate size difference, since Sikorsky is only 1 inch taller than Raian"
Very late but this is before jack fought pickle and later Jack would gain his surgery that made him 7-8’
So Raian powers up with Removal and Jack powers down with Puke. I’m more of a Kengan fan than Baki but even I thought that was horseshit😂 Thing is too I could see Raian and Jack actually being buddies and great sparring partners over Ohma. These two would absolutely have a great time on a slaughter fest against their enemies.
Theyd be enemies, jack is actually a gentleman outside of the ring and raian is a dickhead everywhere to everyone
I don´t know anything about Kengan, but It´s obvious that Baki characters were nerfed. I mean, it felt like it was the jack from the maximun tournament or even weaker.
Ok and
@@crisjrf5546he explained his points what more u want
Raian un kengan Is stronger than ohma at This point
So you don’t know about Kengan and u saying Baki supposed be stronger if u really don’t know about shit
@@kurosakizx6537yeah and Ohma would have lost in a single punch against Baki after the Father Son fight lmao
2:56 4 minus one people😂😂
LOL @ 1:04 😂😂😂
Day 2 of no nut November be like
Jack lost? I don't know man Raian over there looking like a half eaten chicken tender.
That’s what I’m saying bro, based on where Jack bit Raian there’s no way he would be standing. All of the bites were on major arteries meaning at that point Raian would have died due to blood loss
@@AstroDoopbro is using science in anime 😂😂😂😂
@@literaryguide5292 it’s not science homie it’s a reference to the OG Baki anime. When Jack fought Baki he bit and severed his brachial artery. In that fight Motobe said Baki only had 3 minutes before losing consciousness. Here Jack severed arteries in Raians calf bicep and trap. So nah I wasn’t using “science”
@@AstroDoop a big appreciation for your anime knowledge and observation bro ... I am just a random guy scrolling, not a fan of anime. But I also like the ogre 🙂
@@AstroDoopnah it’s beacause Kure clan people are literally fucking bulit diffrent there ancestore wu hei killed gods demons and beast alike he was the ultimate begin it’s not beacause oh therr in a anime is beacause there body’s are built to be almost indestructible
The creators of both shows are well aware that Baki has stronger characters. This is one of those movies where you ignore facts & just enjoy the fights.
Cant enjoy while watching my boi being nerfed so bad
@@patrickgalaxy1227 I feel you on that 😭
@@patrickgalaxy1227 2 months late to say this
I think Kengan skills were nerfed through all fights, but this one seems more accurate to the character of Raian he likes to fight like that. Also I wasn't expecting Raian to pull out the Zeus diamond form card lmao. The crossover was a really good experience despite all
The ones who got nerfed are Baki characters, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's a crossover afterall
Any significant character from baking would one shot anyone from kengan lol
@@bork7817shen wiping yo verse
@@alliuboyo5158 Delusional take, Yujiro has better statements and far better feats 💀🙏
@@bork7817 except Shen Wulong
I see a lot of people saying this and that about nerfing, obviously the creators of both shows had a hand in who they thought would win, lose or be evenly matched😂so stop crying
The biggest crashouts in each anime going all out. This is one of the best fights I’ve ever watched lol🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I really enjoyed the whole movie!!!
I DONT CARE WHAT NUN OF YALL SAY. Ima Kengan fan and Baki CLEARS kengan universe without no damn effort. These characters were nerfed. OHMA was able to beat Kure with punches and techniques. But Jack is literally bitting holes in him now he don’t die? HOW. Jack is also way taller and evidently stongsr then Kure, even with his release.
Gotta nerf em to make it fair
they did jack dirty thats what happens in a cheap crappy crossover bc they dont know their own lvl systems so they just threw a dice or smth lol
You just asked how the genetically modified human known as the Kure devil didn’t die from having holes… I get your points but this is Raian. Any other character should die though
Raian was holding back in his fight against Ohma, did you even read the manga? 😭 🙏
💀😭😭😭nigga You ain't kengan fan. Kengan low tiers go up against 60 feet sperm whales on daily
Raian ripped a man in half. Idk why people say they aren’t Baki level when ohma put a dent into a big ass boulder.
Writers are still shitting on Jack, why would they make a panel in Baki where Jack takes a near full force slap from yujiro un injured and then make him lose to whatever the fuck this shit is
I guess this is supposed to take place before baki even “beats yujiro “ so that hasn’t happened yet but even then Baki characters should have cleaned house
You guys are a bunch of crybaby, bitches, Jesus
It's a crossover, obviously both universes will win and lose
@@cringegoblin5227 Jack is 6'4 here yet has the injury on his mouth he receives when he's 7 foot vs Pickle. There isn't a drop of consistency. This size jack should not have that injury.
It’s because if they made every Baki character win it would make a boring crossover. So they gotta balance it out to make it fun but I agree that jack would’ve solo’d.
Bringing Kengan characters into the Baki animation style (the Baki universe) means they get buffed literally making them larger and extra muscular and power scaling them based on mental illness
1:56 in this part, raian wanted to open jack in half with his bare hands. He did this to a 2 meter tall guy in the manga Kengan Omega.
He was about to execute the Alan treatment to Jack but unfortunately he don't have enough strength 😂
JACK in baki RAHEN ☠
Jack in present show🤡
A lunatic fighting another lunatic will end up in a bloody fight.
Bruh this is just a dramatised representation of my brain fighting my stomach for dominance 😂
Honestly, considering his developement in Baki Rahen, this match with Raian fits right in with building a base of humility similar to his fights with pickle, that caused a massive jump in his power.
This movie is in all accords a treat for both fanbases.
How has Jack not died from an overdose yet? I like his character, but he pushes himself too hard, that he’s gonna eventually break.
They literally picked the first Jack that fought Baki….. I mean the only difference is the scar on his face
I love that Jack's japanese voice sound like a mf death metal singer
I am huge baki fan, this crossover was better than i expected
Idk why he cut it out but at 1:03 Jack swallows the rest of his drugs and thats why his veins were showing. Thats also the reason why he didnt talk much.
At that moment I really felt bad for Jack for ruining his body this way
Ohma and Raian are both luckly that Pickle is actually calm and very reasonable for a primitive/prehistoric man
i mean if it was baki serie those dude was already killed haha
Raihan usually choke his enemies and Jack lost to Baki when he was at this state and Baki put him in a choke hold.
Writers are clever for this set up.
Raian deadass picking a fight with Pickle, bro almost died
Kuroki : " Devil lance "
Yujiro : " say that to the motobe sword"
Jakim cudem jack przegrał przecież zagryzł go prawie na śmierć. Z tego suszenia łatwo by się uwolnił kopnięciem. Skandal.
This is Jack after pickle and before the ancient samurai. This same Jack is also expected to lose pretty easily to another character (won’t spoil for anime only watchers) whoms power doesn’t nearly scale as high as either Jack or Raian but does so by technique and weapons. (He even stated himself that if he took more than a couple blows from Jack he’d probably die) When it comes to power scaling of the current time I think this is a very reasonable, because Jack hasn’t adopted anything true to himself yet. He’s strong but lacked refinement.
When he decides to actually train and do something over being just a brawler we see something come out from it. But truly there isn’t anything Jack has speciality wise like his brother and father. No demon back, brain, or whatever. Just himself, a set of metal teeth, Goudou, and the drugs he needs to stay at 100%.
Baki would never interrupt a fight.
Baki would more likely interrupt Jack mid coitus then mid fight 😂😂
Kengan ashura fighters forgot that there anime has monologues and they rant on during fights but baking fighters have INTERNAL monologues and the narrator just describes a punch like a Apache helicopter
The jack that fought with pickle before this was 243 cm while in this crossover he look like old jack 213 Cm that fought baki
It is. But somehow with the mouth bite injury? Jacks a time traveler confirmed?
@@jauneork278 idk I mean RAIAN height is only 188 but He looks very tall compared to another like pickle or jack even baki that 167 cm he make baki look like 140cm compared to raian. l feel like the height of raian should reach only jack chest cuz even Sikorsky if you remember his height is only 190 when he first time met jack and that jack height is 213 cm the forehead of Sikorsky is only reach jack chin or neck but in this cross over that raian is only 188 cm but he look like he nearly same size as jack
All this talk about baki characters being nerfed, I personally think raian wouldve beaten Jack even if Jack was at his normal strength at this point in the anime, raian is even stronger than ohma and only lost to plot so this is very fitting (not to mention raian only used two kure Clan techniques, removal and the one where he put his hands in jacks mouth which wasn't successful) so imagine if he did use them
Do ppl not realize that Kengan ashura characters train and stuff just like Baki. This was fun
They can't face the truth that Kengan fighter is at that level.
@@lolegaia The studio wouldn’t make the characters in one anime win over the other in a crossover. It’s just that simple.
@@BaldinBlack Yep it's that simple. There's a lot of nerf here from both side but they need to make it like One piece vs DBz vs Toriko crossover.
@@lolegaia they're not 💀 One proof is definitely biscuit oliva... he's the single proof why there's no kengan character stronger than him and there's numerous character that are now stronger than him
Definitely nerfs on both sides. If this was post pickle baki fighting kengan tournament ohma, baki would have won. Mostly cause Ohma wasn't using nico style like he does later on in the franchise. Also note how long he uses that "possessed by a god" state or however it's called. Definitely something that ties more into the first series and not omega. Basically, ashura scaled Ohma would have lost most likely. Both sides had their own nerfs and such, and in the end it's simply made for entertainment anyways. I'm an avid fan of both series, so sue me for stating my opinion XD
People saying it's a robbery yet raian seriously does clap jack in a fight especially this jack since this is pre metal teeth and training. Remind you, raian ripped a dude in 2 from his mouth
People actually thought Jack could beat Raian Kure 😂😂😂.
Considering they used 6'4 Jack for this fight when Jack is 8 feet atm. Yes... He absolutely would wreck Raian's shit. They literally had Jack lose most of his muscle and get limb de-lengthening surgery for this fight. 7 Foot jack vs Pickle is enough.
You know its going down when a Hanma makes that goofy ass grin. Jack has his dad's savagery.
netflix completely forgot that one punch from Jack sent Pickle to the birds with that heavy weight. we stand with jack.
Lets all remember, who wins a fight is better on that day. If your favorite character lost that doesnt mean they are weaker
Guys, Remember that this fight take Place after pickle's ark and before the fight between father and son
That mean that jack was already weakened from the fight against pickle and was still ab impulsive fighter, far away from the calculator beast he become from tge the sumo arc
Jack uses his "slim form" (i don't Remember the name) that made him stronger but smaller than before, also in tha final act jack lost because instead of trying to free himself from Raian choke , he kept moving forward for the final bite (that is in line with the character in this part of the story)
Also jack was Declared defeated, but he could have keep fighting
Raian has release, Jack has roid rage 😂
It seems that the Baki characters take place after the Pickle Arc, and the Kengan characters are still in Ashura. No bias or anythting but I would’ve had this a clean sweep if not for the fan enjoyment. Hanayama beating Saw Paing was a really good fight, which I do think Hanayama and his death grip would’ve won. Jack recovering after fighting Pickle, would’ve won due to multiple bite wounds leading to Raian and his defeat. Baki displayed all his techniques or a majority of them, but they weren’t properly effective as that were shown and meant to be. Baki had gone toe to toe with Yujiro, who is the top dog and he put up a good fight, so him being surprised by Ohma and his pressure was a bit weird if not for the fan base. Ohma would directly lose in this instance even when he went into Advance, Baki brought out his demon back which also enhanced himself and he would’ve came out on top if it had continued. The sole reason why they even stopped fighting was because Ohma wasn’t in advance mode anymore, or that’s atleast what it looked like to me. ANYWAYS, it was a good short film from both verses.
I think this not only takes place after Pickle but immediatly before the Father vs Yujiro arc so Baki hasnt yet faced Yujiro, you can see that Pickle still has his tooth intact. So yeah Baki here is not at his peak, also I would have really liked the reaction of Kengan fighters to the Triceratops fist
They are not taken from anywhere. Crossovers work in a "anything is canon" type of scenarios generally, hence why Raian tried to used a Kengan Omega move mid fight.
@@NoahToledo-xo5pj Could be that case, but it still shows instances of where they come from within arcs and time. Jack has his face scar from when pickle bit half his jaw off, and Pickle himself makes an appearance. And Katsumi is missing his arm from when it got torn off from Pickle, which leads to my original statement that probably happened after the pickle and father-son arc.
@@TheseHandsAreRatedE That's because they are the recent tv versions but crossovers rarely used any stablished canon. Is less about deciding who wins through math and more about character interactions and fanservice, hence why Jack lost since his role in Baki is to be a jobber while Raian's role is that of a powerful rival so the interactions are decided on that.
@@NoahToledo-xo5pj Yep, this is definitely not canon in either shows which is obvious. But it’s just where I’m getting when seeing what characters are appearing within the show and what events have been likely to have been occurred.
God damn this was my favorite fight out of all of them. No talking all hands. All this buff and nerf talk is stupid.
He lost by a choke?😅😂 ultimate nerf🎉
Reference to older Baki series where Jack lost to Baki because of a headlock. A lot are pissed because this isn't a real fight but more of an easter egg/Nostalgia one
@@MICHAELTUMANGDAY Raian also killed a fighter named Mokichi in Kengan Ashura with a choke. That was the reference i picked up from it. Didn't know jack lost to a headlock in the Bakiverse
@@MarshalDTeachh Baki headlocked jack and took the win
This is making me appreciate Baki Rahen even more and they’d better do a rematch because I want Raian to feel metal teeth rip into him harder than what he got here. Great fight, but my god making Jack fight like in the Grappler days was infuriating to watch in some places.
Raian didnt even use kure techniques
And Jack didnt use his Full Speed and Strenght😂
@@rexrokal3573 they cry in a movie made for fans, kengan manga is better
@@crisjrf5546 Kengan is garbage
Obviously cause no one has to die in here
But Jack's Godou it's an instant kill
He doesn't have them. It's end of Ashura Raian not Omega Raian.
I'm so used to Kengan Ashura's animation, this whole show feels like a Power Point Presentation😭
Why this jack looks like jack from baki the grappler?
Because he is. This is from Kengan Ashura vs Baki* Hanma movie.
@@criticalfists87 but before his prime i mean he looks weak bro,in baki dou he looks like a mountain
@@Awakemanga Jack did another limb Extension surgery after the Miyamoto Musashi arc, and they took Baki characters after the Pickle arc and Kengan Characters after tournament ending with few twists.
@@Awakemanga also because of fan service they made him lose weight like in the tournament.
@@criticalfists87 i know bro,but in son of ogre Jack is more Big and strong, kengan vs baki it's after son of ogre has no sense,fan service how You Say
What a fight
Why are they always putting my man jack down
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They hate Canadian😂😂
they honestly just need to kill him off already.
Jack's surgeon: next time I'll get my 5 year old son to do his jaw surgery. Pitty all zhe art and delicate work
😢
Baki fans crying so hard trying to say that their favorite characters was nerfed.
They’ve been nerfed so that ur kengan weakling verse would match the anime that’s way pass their power level 😂
@@usherglow3269Man why you people get so mad, I also like the Baki verse a bit more but love both, I absolutely enjoyed it. For me personally it was a draw between Jack and Raian, so idk why you get all mad.
Looks like only us kengan fans got to enjoy this movie in the end 😂 it was a really good movie imo
@@RoyalKnight07. Fax my boy, this crossover was soooo good. Animation, OST and fights with references.
sped kengan trashura fan lol
even with such a big nerf I still think Jack would have killed Raian. Let’s see Raian “win” against current Rahen Jack, 10ft 500lbs of muscle
Raian still didn’t use any Kure techniques here
@@Kbutcanufightho he used removal. and jack barely used goudou
@@tankeyuan7582 I never watched Baki but I think it’s hilarious how many people side with a doper
@@Kbutcanufighthoright because its soooooo much worse then a serial killer made through eugenics
Джека ппц как понефрили😂 Его рост 243 см просто понизили до 1.95-2м😂. И сделали его худым, чтобы Райчн не отлетел😂
русиш дауниш не спрашивали 😂
@@Dielock123 зачем ты тогда высрался если тебя не спрашивали.
Джека по ачивам со 2 сезона взяли
Джека чмырят как хотят
Jack was like the unlocked boss that you play but 100x nerfed
What if Darth Vader vs Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh would have to be severely nerfed for that fight to even be remotely fair
@@00Grimreaper00don’t know him. Is he like a god or something? Because if vader isn’t capable to choke you and break youre Neck immediately he can’t be human.
@@danijeleljackson2180he isn't and he moves massively faster than light and can destroy universes so Darth ain't coming close
@@trillionwins2028 well then it’s not a fair match up 🙃
thats the best schizophrenia skill i've ever seen in this series, normal doctors use inhibitors to block that kind of activity for people who cant manage the symptoms, this guy just did the opposite, which is why its called removal, removing the inhibitors so he can fight to the fullest, this will not only make him strong but activate the schizophrenia, like heightened sense of hearing, vision, even feeling, similar to the endorphin rush, which causes a split mind, split mind actually means split reality, but a scientist will never say that, they dont know that the human is traveling through all realities in their lives, which when they switch realities, the lower ranks see it as they are delusional, which they dont have the same eyes, hears, and such. like aang learning chi sao from toph, say its a delusion all u want, but the blind person has to other choice but to be schizophrenic, the cant follow your misinformation, they dont have the same reality, they have to use their ears.
JACK NEED MORE PROTEIN
No pain no gain
It's always the Baki fans getting salty for no reason over this. Prime example of why certain fandoms make things like this crossover unbearable because they just cry, complain, or say this that and the other thing. Just watch it to enjoy it and recognize that each fighter from their respective universes are cracked and OP.
PSA: If you read the manga you'd know that Saw Paing, Raian, and Ohma in this crossover were still at Kengan Ashura levels of strength. Kengan Omega (the sequel series to Ashura) broke their power scales even more. I won't spoil it since it's a great manga, that should be read it if you like seeing crazy feats. of strength, martial arts, and technique, but Long story short their powers and strengths grew and are still growing as the story progresses. Despite knowing all this as a Kengan fan I wasn't upset when Saw Paing got bested, Raian wasn't fighting seriously, or Ohma got tested by Baki. It was all enjoyable at the end of the day, so please stop being salty Baki fans with the "Aw, so-and-so were nerfed therefore it's trash!", because guess what, that statement can be used as an excuse for any relevant thing nowadays. E.g. Batman beating Superman ; Master Chief beating Doomslayer ; Naruto beating Ichigo etc.
Yeah. The main thing I learned from this crossover happening is how completely insufferable the majority of the Baki fan base is. I never really read the manga, but I know certain things, but I really don’t wanna get into it now because of its community lol.
Is it just me? or did they debuff jack harder than his drug abbuse? I mean he fought 10 times harder against pickle?
2:14 the only problem i have with raian winning is how he chokes out jack while jack has like twice the reach lol
I'm pretty upset on how Jack just lost HE COULD JUST PUNCH HIM RIGHT THERE WITH HIS LONG ARMS but no he decides to stand there while being CHOKED
@@GiantGorilla. They also made JAck smaller than he should be. He's not even as tall as he was vs Pickle.
@@jauneork278 well if you haven't read the baki manga Jack is that movie is 7 feet tall which is 213 and this was his first sergury after getting defeated by his brother Baki and later on that Pickle who was suppose to be 8 feet all but his actual height might be 7'5 or 7'6 and Jack fighting against Pickle Jack was still 7 feet tall when they meet and after getting defeated by Pickle twice later on in Baki dou which is the musashi arc Jack has gotten another surgery standing at 7'11 which is 243cm after getting defeated by Pickle
@GiantGorilla. Jack towers over Sikorski who is taller than Raian before the Pickle Fight.
Jack here is clearly about the same size as Raian. So no. This Jack is 6'4
@@jauneork278 no Sikorsky is one inch taller than Raian and Jack was still 7 feet tall when he fought against Ali Jr and Sikorsky he's height wasn't nerfed at all he was is not 7'11 after getting a 2nd surgery in the musashi arc when he got defeated by Pickle
Jek Hanma💪🥊👍
Kengan fans is so delusional i bet raian couldn't even go toe to toe with pickle while jack did just be happy your favorite anime got famous because of this crossover
Very angry comment for some reason
Its like a fan animation 😂
I agreed with you Bro, this Is stupid😅😅
As I remember, Jack is one of the tallest characters in Baki but how come Raian have the same height with Jack in this movie?
Jack is 7 ft and raian is 6,2 there is definitely changes
I'm a Baki fan but some of y'all complaining about Baki being nerfed is cringe lol. The fights are supposed to be entertaining and respect fans of both franchises, not a fanservice where your favorite characters stomps the other.
But that's exactly what happened in the fight, raian seemed overpowering and jack like his toy. Jack may not be the strongest but he's not that weak either
As soon as I see kids arguing about such stuff, I know how stupid they are. Of course they had to respect both franchises and any other way of handling it would've been shit. Personally I cared for the entertainment behind the fights, not who's stronger. Wish it had more of them tho, my only "complaint".
Jack being choked out is not entertaining. Some how Baki rear naked choked Jack didnt bother him but Rian just lift him up by the throat is so humiliating to Jack as a character man.
@@Vertigo2688if you respect both franchises then make them accurate?
nerfing a character just for the sake of a crossover is wrong???
isn't it the writer's fault they can't make a compelling and entertaining battle between two characters with differing power levels?
and you call us stupid?
Glad this isn't cannon.
yep , baki is trash
@@BlackXief I hope your phone battery drains fast today
the way jack got nerfed 😂😂
also every baki character has nerfed in this film .
So real
They had for
true, but may be they are even more strong in manga due kengan being such new anime it does not have all their power animated
@@Troyxxtthey left out so many strong character from Kengan Ashura thats why these peoplethink Baki solo Kengan such delusoonal people
Poor Jack
Lost to Pickle then him and then in the next season he loses to Motobe in the manga
Poor Jack fans tho
They stopped the fight but they didn't stop jack.
The most amazing battle 🔥
Which season it is
Why did they make jack that short😂
There was more action in this fight than most of the episodes in the raitai saga.
Anyone know the song that plays at 1:15? Goes hard with this part of the fight.
The OST is called "Raian"
FINALLY
A comment that doesn't talk about scales.
@@sensacionesagradables that's what I've been thinking like they did this for the fans it's not meant to be taken seriously
@@AriJoestar thanks man!
I like jack how he kick 0:42
To baki fans, Raian has been soft to your jack hanma. He can tear anyone into half 😮
Nah that not real... Jack is something different, remember that jack gave upper cut to pickle that went him flying if he gets that raian will be dead man.. also jack got too nerfed in this movie
Not only Jack also every characters
@@_gokulakrishnanCSE that upper cut would've ripped Raian's head off!
Oh Raian was playing with that man. I remember what Rain did to the Wu boys lmao
Well he tried to give him the Alan treatment but could not pull it off
Yall raian is lucky baki held back his brother because we all know raian would've bleed out and die mf looked like a leftover sandwich 😭
Yeah, this is why its hard to make an official VS battle style anime between series. If they keep the power level as it is without equalizer the fight will be boring, and the crowd will also fight each other.
And when they did use equalizer crowd will still fighting among themselves. But hey, atleast the anime fight will not be boring.
Why do people believe this Jack is strong ?, current manga Jack i truly believe is quite strong but if you believe that this Jack is strong enought to defeat Raian, then you probably won´t like what Motobe will do to Jack in the next season.
I love Baki way more than Kengan Ashura but in reality i have to say that Raian is stronger than Jack, if we are talking about Baki Rahen Jack and Kengan Omega Raian i probably have to give the victory to Jack but sadly this Jack has just recover from his fight with Pickle there´s no way he wins againts a Raian that is even stronger tha Ohma