Can LG save its smartphone business?
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I went to Korea, talked to a bunch of people from LG and here's what I've found! (The Story Behind - Ep. 34).
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Nicolo Zoretto go into his back listed video's and look for his light bulb review...if you think he can work magic just talking wait until you see that i have been badgering him to do more home appliance reviews as they go from actual boring subjects to 'where can i buy this product' with martons magic touch...LOL....marton am awaiting an epic 'toaster review'
Tony Low lol
They need to focus. Simplify their naming, reduce the number of SKUs, and deliver quality for value.
wildreams
While their neighbour do the otherwise, and still making alot of money ...
fajar adi Pradana smasung has spent alot of money making their phones and making it's Name a synonym for innovation dats why they sell alot more smartphones
Rayan Ighil
Actually not only smartphones. Samsung hold alot of IP. Something that LG can't match. Samsung have its own fabs, several years ago they just beat intel as the world largest silicon chip manufacturer. Heck even some of Apple parts were manufactured by Samsung.
The best DRAM memory : Samsung
Best display panel : Samsung Amoled
And many more ....
fajar adi Pradana well i already knew dat but thanks anyway 😊
I'm not a fan of Samsung's battery and software quality. But at least they have relatively simple naming schemes and consistent marketing for their flagship models (S series, S plus series, and Note series; trying to squeeze as much features and specs on 1 phone).
While LG's marketing is all over the place (G series, V series; gimmicks like modularity, second screen, real leather backs, flexible body etc.)
Great analysis. Your videos are so good for a tech enthusiast business student. The only TH-cam channel that I turned on notifications.
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Please tell us about HTC next.
I don't want HTC to Die.
Ashish Kalam they’re dead, entire phone hardware unit sold to google.
Sadly unlike Korean and Chinese companies, the Taiwanese government did not see the strategic importance in bailing them out
yeah waste of good speakers
they died
Because of LG bootloop problem, I'll never buy LG phones. I've done with LG G4. But the Camera is fantastic.
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Also, loved the video on analysis of strategy of MI.
1. Dump the LG UI, embrace stock Android
2. Start making good mid-range phones, not SD 230 ones..
3. Price it competitively
4. Give constant software updates
5. Check for boot loops....
RIP my G4. Lost to the boot loop
Bring back sometime that made their phones attractive the IR BLASTER
Two years later, I'm here to confirm that they couldn't.
LG can't save because of:
1. Slow updates
2. Hardware defects on some flashgrips
3. Lost their way with the idiotic notch and the Google button
4. Nonsense models (the last ones) or hardware outdated models
LG is the most innovative brand with otherwise nice devices on lower prices, but it's not enough.
You're absolutely right i have G6 it came with ton of shit red smudge on screen from factory some other units also had tak also Since at&t version i m stuck at Android 8
Also I have seen uncountable issues in Lg G5 also my G6 battery has been fucked up way more compared to my Huawei Honor 5x phone both from 2016
Both battery health difference is Sky & Land! Quality of Lg is pretty poor
Hey we're LG, and we released five bootlooping flagships in a row during 2013-2016 period.
Hmmm, I wonder why people won't buy our products anymore 🤔
LoadGamePL they've already fixed the problem a while ago. What else do you want them to do? Go back in time and give you a cookie?
Overclock Mixes // Music Mixes I'm just pointing out the reason why their sales are so bad nowadays, it will take a lot of time before consumers start trusting them again.
Samsung phones exploded but their sales are still strong.
Aditya Bhatt Because it happened to one model, not 5 in a row. If note 7, S8, S9 and Note 8 exploded then it would be a different story
Huy Pham Affected LG devices were G4, G5, V10, V20 and Nexus 5x.
I would like to see lg take a Moto approach, like Google owned Motorola. Software that is easily updated, good display, camera and battery life performance. Sell the g series just below pixel, iPhone, v series prices like $600. Sell the v series just below the note and iPhone 10 maybe around $799 but give it the most premium features and performance.
I'm watching this on my LG G6 which is absolutely amazing and has never let me down (unlike other phones I have had). They make very good phones but their marketing needs to be stepped up quite heavily.
Lg shud just do partnership with google for android one program. Then in my opinion their sales may sky rocket
YES YES YES totally agree Nexus 4 and 5 were evidence how well google and LG can work
Boris Mihov But the question is will LG even think of doing so 😏 . But if they do ; none can compete LG. Coz their hardware is just superior to all others. Just software is an issue and if they go shake hands with google; they may even lead smartphone industry, who knows
LG's software is shite. They should pull a Nokia and adopt Android One for all their phones.
I was actually thinking this myself while watching the whole video. Even if their software on their phones has improved, the LG Optimus UX is synonymous with bugs, slowdowns, and bloatware in the tech community. And ridding your devices of that image isn't easy. I once had a co-worker not buy LG phones simply because it was LG that produced them (he didn't know tech specs, didn't know any of the good and bad features, zero research, just up and decided not to buy it. It's that easy to lose a customers in the smartphone business.
If they partnered with Google in this regard this is good way to change image and to show how committed they are into timely software updates and usability.
LG is already trying to do that with their own software (akin to Samsung and Xiaomi). They are trying to market their own software features with their AI gimmick with ThinQ and its branding has already become an industry punchline. Problem is LG's Software has a bad image and there isn't much they can do about it.
The one thing they can do is make an about face and do something that is actually pro-consumer for once. There is no "software money" to be had if the software is awful already.
I loved LG phones since the G2, but got tired of the never update situation. I moved on and switched to OnePlus. 🤗
I have LG V20. It is still running Android 7.0. May be they should figure out updating first before launching a new product to the market?
My problems with LG phones
1. Software(just switch to stock)
2. Small camera sensors
3. Always a compromise in something like G5's immature design, G4 and G6's inferior processor, V30's bad front camera and display issues.
4. Mediocre Battery
If they resolve most of these issues and flex their marketing arm I think their G2 days are gonna come again
I like LG phones because they've always felt like the quirky underdog of the smartphone world. I would've tried the LG G5 if not for the warnings and horror stories of bootloop issues that plagued the G4 and, according to some accounts, the G5.
LG took up quite a few prime time TV spots for the G5 in my country but they were those atrocious ads where everyone in the scene was Jason Statham. Part of me could not get behind the marketing and branding of such a device.
It also doesn't help that pretty much salesperson at the network carrier stores is paid to push Samsung phones.
I also hold the opinion that the notch is a terrible design choice and am dumbfounded by all the companies that blindly follow Apple's lead.
I just don't like the way the G7 looks compared to the G6. That's the reason I'd sooner pick up the Samsung Galaxy S9.
I really liked the lg g flex 2, a shame that it flopped.
Prolution27 I was seriously going to get the third one but was never released.
Same, on the one hand it was almost good for us consumers that it flopped because the price dropped by alot, on the other hand we will probably never see an lg g flex 3.
It just had everything I needed from a smartphone and the curve had so many pro's too! Only downside was the missing fingerprint reader and the stopped support.
Ronnie Aceves
Your are lucky
I ordered 5 to get 2 without display problems
After 18 month my one had a defective mainboard and my wife's one had to get a new battery pack
I still love my G5, but they just fail at marketing... A removable battery good marketed with a charging cradle is a huge win! When I bought the phone I didn't know of it's existence, that's where their marketing fails! The G5 runs Oreo and is still my favourite phone, including its IR blaster (to control old TVs and old Hi-Fi sets)
I loved the G4, a shame that it bootlooped
You make one of the very cool and different videos. Your research is good and fact based.Whenever I see your subs it makes me sad that how on earth it is possible that such a good channel son't have that many subs. I really hope your subs will grow exponentially.
It should be obvious. The only good phones they make have defects, and they won't refund you once you encounter the defects. This is how you break consumer trust
G4 - bootloops, overheats
5X - bootloops, battery problems
V10 - can't play 60fps video, bootloops
G5 - bootloops; back glass self-shatters with temperature change
G6 - came out with a generation old SoC
V20 - root checker (why??)
V30 - severe screen defects
All of these phones also get maybe 3 or 4 updates ever, have locked down bootloader's for most carriers in the US, and have very bloated software.
LG was destined to die after their first bootlooping generation. 4 phones later? Heh
CrackedDylMil yeah last time I had a lg was with the g3 and it had major issues with when going home the wallpaper would actually take a noticeable amount to time to load so you’d see a quick flash of black where the wallpaper would be and in the multitasking screen apps would a sec to appear so it would look like no apps were opened then after a sec you’d see them
Lg : we will stop bringing random risky technology to our phones
Also LG: you can unlock your phone with your veins
I bought an LG G6+ and it's a good phone... without updates. The last update is from October 2017. No Oreo, no security updates, it's pretty bad.
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4.how they raised funds
5.great business models and bad business models
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awesome! :)
Why don't you make the video yourself?
Fernan Aquino
Iam still a kid in business world..so i do need some help to walk before run..
Riyaz patan you can always do research yourself but meh why not make someone else do it
Charlie Shin
Hi there...
Can LG save the smartphone business?
3 years later : Unfortunately,, no
Excellent analysis!
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After being practically scammed of my money with the LG G4 bootloop, I love to strongly recommend everyone I know never to buy an LG phone and to see their smartphone business go to drain. So there's no question about why is that happening...
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I was actually thinking of LG and AndroidOne together while watching the whole video. Even if their software on their phones has improved, the LG Optimus UX is synonymous with bugs, slowdowns, and bloatware in the tech community. And ridding your devices of that image isn't easy. I once had a co-worker not buy LG phones simply because it was LG that produced them (he didn't know tech specs, didn't know any of the good and bad features, zero research, just up and decided not to buy it. It's that easy to lose a customers in the smartphone business.
If they partnered with Google in this regard this is good way to change image and to show how committed they are into timely software updates and usability.
LG could use the Nexus Vacuum to their favor. A range of Semi-Premium Semi-Value phones, featuring Stock Android could be a good direction.
I see a real split in the market in general. Some consumers want/think they need a top end phone that does everything. In which case they want a top name brand (Apple, Samsung etc), but some consumers just want a basic reliable phone because..they just want a basic reliable phone..or (like me) they already invested in a kick-ass laptop that handles everything of real importance..
Karl P
Same here ...
I wont spend more than $100 for a smartphone. Gaming PC us where my moneys goes.
Totally. Invest your money on a good laptop and keep the phone basic. You don't need both to be high end.
Karl P Same can be said for laptops though. Outside of AAA gaming and professional work like video editing even cheapest laptops will do. Similarly only reason to get expensive phone in my opinion is camera quality.
Karl P Samsung does this nicely. A premium phone who also makes budget low end devices to cater to that side of the market.
fajar adi Pradana so no VR & AR for you!
LG is one of the last companies to release a new model that can still be rooted like the G6. This will ensure them customers, if they continue to release rootable phones. I dropped Samsung specifically because I cannot root their newest phone.
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So that's why almost all new smarphones are with the notch. Smartphone market is too competitive and companies are just scared to experiment
Alexey OnePlus doesn't experiment. They see what's working and then use the best, most successful ideas & trends
To be fair, the LG V20 had a second screen that covers what would be the top bezel. You could say that the V20 was the first phone with a "notch".
Actually it’s cuz with android phones you gotta have space inside for the screen ribbon cable to go
Cuz in the iPhone the bottom edge of the actual screen curves back inside the phone so it can place the ribbon cable up away from the bottom and the bottom bezel can be so much thinner and this is apples owned patented technology
Hopefully they will be more forthcoming with updates to Android (8 on the LG G6 in North America) and security patches...!
Wait, is Samsung really "fully premium" brand. I know quite a lot of people who have lower end Samsung phones.
Another piece of feedback: I hope you won't focus on smartphone only subjects, especially since that might get boring.
Great video regardless.
Samsung has many faces. I guess he tried to compare iPhones vs Galaxies S. But even in this comparison Samsung loses quality over time per device since its update policy is a joke!
In my country it is, even on the cheaper ones, a Moto C its for like $80 and a samsung J2 prime for like $150, and both have the same specs, well... the 1st one has 16gb, the 2nd just 8.
by premium he means that their main sales are usually their flagship devices...when a new samsung flagship device is launched it will make millions of sales in comparisson to some of their mid range offerings,just think about it when or if you ever go into a provider shop like EE or vodafone...the sales rep there will always attempt to either sell you the latest samsung or apple flagship,their advertisements all over the shop and everywhere else will usually be for their latest flagship,the most youtube reviews will also be for their latest flagship...and this is why they sell mostly their flagship devices over companis like LG who end up selling their flagship devices at highly reduced costs
Yes, it is. Samsung is more expensive than its competitors minus Apple. Just because they offer mid-range phones doesn't mean they're not premium mid-range. It's like a Porsche 911 and a Cayman.
Duilio Helfenstens very much so. Even in their budget range, they're not a great value, but instead, give it stuff like oled display to make it look prettier than competitors in that segment. They are over the counter sellers, so companies like Xiaomi doesn't even belong in the same Price range when comparing internals.
LG has been selling Both premium and Value for Money products .
So do other brands.
But only Samsung and Huawei can pull it off with one brand name.
Oppo now has 4 brand names to sell their bipolar idealogy of products with oppo and OnePlus etc.
LG needs to rename their budget segment .
Literally the only reason I haven't been able to convince people to buy and LG phone is because they remember LG buy their cheap lower end smartphone s and can't imagine and Premium LG phone. And the fact that there is nothing in the middle makes it worse.
Ashish Kalam they also need to fix the bootloop problem
Signature? ;)
He does not mean that. By premium and value category he considers the price of flagships of various brands. Lets just take a look at some of the prices of flagships in previous year(during launch)
iphone X- 1000$(Premium)
Samsung note 8-900$(Premium)
One plus 5t- 499$(Value)
LG G6-800$ at launch but price soon reduced a lot unlike Samsung or Apple.
ilias tredi boy the bootloop problem was industry wide with a certain build of Android and certain processors.
Nexus 6p and lots of other phones were infected.
LG phones Boot looping is like Samsug phones exploding and iPhones bending. They happened once and people just like to complain about it forever
LGs "budget" phones like the Q6 are ridiculously overpriced. I mean you can literally get something better for half the price (Le pro 3 for example).
Well the first phone comes out with Nougat was LG V20 and since then it only got one security update (November 2017!) and there is no sign of Oreo update yet. Even though I think about LG as my next smartphone because of its audio capabilities, however I don't want to have the similar experience again. LG V30 costs around 500 Euro right now in Germany while Samsung S9 costs same. So it'd be a hard to decide.
hey TechAltar
Gotta say, love my G5. I need a G5 refresh without the modular design and better battery. It would be perfect for me then.
Here's a CRAZY idea - make phones with removable batteries again. It's a big selling point to many people.
"But I don't wanna give up muh waterproofing!"
You don't have to - Galaxy S5 had both a removable battery and IP67 rating
"But I hate plastic backs"
Well, LG V20 has both a removable battery and a metal back
You are not free to do what you want with the second screen, so it is a bad idea in the long run. Simply having more screen real estate will be the way to go.
Huy Pham, In my country, the LG V20 is still sold new in stores. I wanted to buy it but I visited reddit.com/r/LGV20 and I saw many people complaining over screen retention issues, overheating issues, a few bootloops every now and then, mediocre battery life, fragile camera lens glass etc.
How does your phone hold up?
LG, for Christ's sake, fix these goddamn issues.
I'm using LG Zero, and it's been amazing for me so far, it has a really premium feel, quite sturdy for my use and has a metal back
Unremovable battery though ;/
Spot on Hard Core!
*HEEEELL NOOO!*
*The first premium "flagship" phone that I ever bought was LG. Specifically, the LG G3.*
*I was traumatized. I will never buy LG ever again.*
That's unfortunate, mine was the same, I got it second-hand and honestly the only reason I replaced it was because of water damage that I didn't remedy in time, other than that it was great. On the other hand, the G4 did cause me problems, right now I'm on a brand new V30+ and I love it, still LG's best looking phone in my opinion
2:59 hey those are the only LG phones I've ever owned, still rocking my G5 lol
Great video as usual!
I owned an LG G2 for quite a few years and it was the perfect phone. It never let me down. I loved the price, the camera, the button placement, the screen, the battery, the looks, the software... perfect. Recently switched to a OnePlus 5 and now I get the same feeling i got with the G2. Since 2014 I've been overlooking their phones and I'm disappointed at how badly they've managed to do until now. I really hope they can turn it around soon.
I have had my G6 for over a year now and I love it, coming from a G3 that I also loved, I feel that the G6 and newer LG phones are just not really appreciated. If you compare the G7 to the Oneplus 6 they are on paper quite similar but the hype right now is focused on Oneplus. In my opinion LG should commit to both of the options you mentioned in your video, bring prices down so that they are the clear winner in the price category and advertise more, get people hyper for their devices. The more LG can secure market share the quicker they will grow.
LG has several issues to iron out, basically *they need to find and stick to a direction* .
hardware: design spasm, one decent like the V30, then they go nuts and copy others for no reason like the notch, or failed ideas like the mods,
software: old boot issues and nearly no sw updates, no sec patches either.. my V20 came and went w/ 7.0
pricing: ignoring the competition, V20 over $800 at att unlocked then goes down to 285 at BH less than a year later, V30 nearly 1000!?
marketing: .. what marketing.. ?
Agreed, I've got a brand new V30+ which I bought for £300, absolutely love it and still think it's LG's best ever looking phone
It didn't work. As of 2021-04-05 LG is shutting down their entire mobile divison worldwide.
I'd rather prefer stock Android and open bootloader which welcomes more XDA developers and keeps the device fresh for many many years.
Improve on specs. Bigger battery life. Best processor. More ram better screen to body ratio and have competitive prices and done. The G6 didn't have any of those. Though it LOOKS premium. And to most performs premium. If it had 64gb storage and 4gb ram with an 835 or 660 I would of bought in on amazon next month instead I'm buying a better phone at the same price. Huawei Mate SE
The Huawei mate se doesn't have a SD835 though. It comes with an off-brand Kirin processor. The problem with those processors is that after the company stops supporting them, it's a nearly impossible to find custom firmware updates for your phone. So, you can't even root your phone and keep getting support from the community. The problem is that Snapdragon generally releases source code for the drivers, while these off-brand processors generally do not. If that's not important to you, then that's fine, but if it is, it's definitely something to consider.
That's mainly why I went with the One Plus 6 over say the Honor 10 (which is a subsidiary brand of Huawei) because the One Plus 6 uses a SD845 while the Honor 10 uses a Kirin 970 processor. it's also because of these off-brand processors why those phones are more affordable.
joemann7971 660 635. There all the same XD
joemann7971 Not what I said. Basically the g6 didn't have the newest and best processor and I would want them to give it that and make a budget version with a 660.
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we need a "what went wrong" series for companies who came down from the skies (Nokia. blackberry, IBM, Xerox, Atari)
I have a V20, and I mostly love it. The good points: ESS DACs, micro SD, removable battery, good signal quality, decent cameras, fast enough processor, decent display, 2nd display. The not-so-good points: Mediocre to poor customer support, undeveloped core apps, sparse settings and diagnostics, not water resistant, curved screen difficult to protect with tempered glass.
So, if LG recognizes their weaknesses and addresses them, I'll be impressed. I suspect that they have a lot of inertia in their organization.
Dude u got a very high quality videos
Keep it up :)
Very good content with good and valid points, hopefully LG's new strategy will work 😎
no. Phone manufacturings' era of profitabily is over, unless you are Apple, better start making cheap good phones to make money in advertising and subscriptions.
I remember buying an LG many many years ago and it sucked and the software kept freezing. Nothing bothers me more than software bugs in a phone
That is the reason I think they should partner with Google in Android one program
Boris Mihov no way Google are just fine making the Pixel. They don't need a company like that dragging them down. Android improved so much when they dropped the Nexus, another phone that really disappointed me
@Jordan Gaffney Google is currently partnering with Nokia and other manufacturers also and yes android improved but because of nexuses, my Nexus 5 is still running and I use it as a second device, they had prbolems but for the price you couldn't expect more . Pixel phones are just the natural evolution of the Nexus series
Boris Mihov I had the Nexus 5 and it became a potato after a year freezing, slow performance ect, and oh wait it was manufacturered by LG
As a life long iphone user the G6 looked amazing to me, but every other phone looks amazing to me lol 🤷🏽♂️
Awesome well rounded analysis of LGs strategy. Couldn't agree more with everything you said
Please do a video on HMD/Nokia. Their smartphone business is growing pretty well despite the overall decline of the market.
This is exactly the content I subscribed for. Brilliant video my guy.
Great info as always, and nice new look btw. Keep it up 👍🏼
Hello people of the past, I would like to inform that LG couldn't save its smartphone business. RIP
I'm still using my LG V20 as my daily phone. It's brilliant. I don't know why everyone has a downer on LG phones.. Maybe their lower tier stuff isn't very good.
The v20 comes with 2 batteries and an external charger, and is super quick to switch batteries so you can always have a full battery ready to go or carry 2 batteries if you're going away over a weekend or need to heavily use it for GPS or games.
Its fast enough, never had slow downs or crashes, it has a 2nd screen at the top that always shows time, recent apps or quick toggles (even when the main screen is off) which I thought may be a gimmick is genuinely brilliant. And barely consumes any battery.
The main thing though is the durability/longevity. Coming from a Nexus 6P which it's internal non-removable battery started to last less and less time in 15 months and the charge port that after that same kind of time got really loose and stopped working well and needed the angle of the connector to be perfect to connect.. I don't have to worry about this with v20 as this has the removable battery and also the external battery charger. So you don't actually ever have to plug the actual device in unless you need both batteries fully charged or for data transfer.
+ u get dual sim, sd card slot, fingerprint scanner, ir remote, nfc and everything else you could ever need.
I don't think I'll ever change from one of these unless battery tech has a huge advancement. Couldn't be happier.
Maybe if lg would update their phones after a year, writing this on my first and last lg ever.
LG provides the best midrangers
Fruitarian the problem is that lg is actually try to make those be flagship models
Didn't LG built the pixel 2 and 2 XL on behalf of Google? Isn't that considered a success for their phone business?
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Severely underrated.. No BS in videos
I've had LG G3, LG G5, LG G6, LG V30 phones. They're good value for money: good cameras. But I'm done with LG. Because very slow or no updates. Manufacturing quality is variable. Its a company thats a bit random. They can clearly make good phones but lack focus. I hope the new strategy works out for them.
I went LG because they offered a removable battery when no other smartphone brand would. Too bad they don't seem to have that brave attitude anymore.
Do one for HTC and Sony and BlackBerry
Also I love the V20
I'll wait and see. I like my LG G4 when hardware is concerned with the nice high contrast curved ips screen and it even functions after falling down about 4-5 meters (cracked screen but functional). But the software and support for older models makes me not very enthusiastic to buy another LG phone. If they'd guarantee 4+ years of updates after worldwide launch then I might consider it but for now I prefer a phone closer to stock android for a lower price. The pixel2 supporting with updates for 3 years isn't bad but it's still cheaper to get a €300 Motorola every 2 years while not really giving up much.
Yes I liked LG G4 too, excellent camera for it's time. Except it's a shame that they had serious manufacturing defect and most LG G4 bootlooped. LG should have voluntarily recalled all LG G4 and replaced all the phones. Doing nothing about it seriously tarnished the company brand and reputation. Samsung also messed up too with Galaxy Note 7, but at least they were decisive and recalled all their defective products.
I hated the LG phones that I had used and seen from around 2010 to 2016.
Then I ended up with the LG X Power in 2017 and... That was finally a good phone for it's price category.
It's still my current phone =)
Lg products are really good in terms of quality. We bought a frigde lately,.very quiet, low energy consumption, 10 year warranty. Its phones are durable too.
Just ship your flagship phones with stock Android. Problem solved!
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Amazing series. Keep up the great work!
Now introducing: the LG Wing, a perfect example of focusing on the basics and never ever those weird experiments!
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the LG x BTS looks like a hitmarker from call of dooty games
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I hope they stick to their focus on software updates. That will take a long time to bear fruit as they need multiple generations of phones with regular updates to develop a track record for consistency, and I'm worried some short sighted executive might stop updates just because he doesn't see results immediately.
Got an G6, promised the first to get get the update from android 7 to 8. Meanwhile my phone is still on 7.0.
Enough of a reason for me to never get one again.
Today its on Pie
My LG G7 is the best phone I have ever used. Simply love it and can't fault it in any way.
Here after LG announced it will shut down its smartphone business
Just got a LG G6 for $150 new a few days ago. Best phone for that price
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I like the G6. I think LG should focus on the software and leave the bleeding edge hardware to others. Rugged and IP68 is nice though.
Split the brand in two keep LG as a premium brand in Korea and launch a new low end brand where they can use the old tech from a few seasons ago.
They should price like OnePlus, just a little bit more, and should focus on their strengths more. A partnership with Google through the Android One for some mid rangers might give them some good sales. And should try to update their devices quicker, they can beat Samsung atleast in that way.
Before I changed sides, my favourite android-devices where LGs. I just loved the light look of it's UI. I just recently noticed that they almost disappeared from the semi-premium market when I realised they weren't as big as I originally thought. So … for me, their marketing worked, somehow. :D
Great one. As always.
I love LG. I bought a $100 LG Premier Pro LTE, signed it up with straight talk for $45 bucks a month and it works great, the network is decent and above all, I cut the price of my phone down from the $800 samsung stuff that proved to be glitchy for me and filled with stuff I didn't even use, and the price of my phone bill down from some ridiculous $100 unlimited everything plan that I barely used, down to something I actually use.. with no contract too. So I cut my phone price down almost completely and my phone bill in half. I'm quite happy with the minimalist approach to phones as I'm no longer really a power user. I watch youtube, I use Discord, I expect good battery life and a passable to good screen, that's really it.. for anything heavier I go to my samsung chromebook or my PC. I don't understand why people spend computer price tags for cell phones, and so much on cell phone plans. Maybe in a few months I will regret getting a cheapo phone but to be honest, I can't see it degrading much faster than planned obsolence already does for flagship models.
Love the Malazan callout. Best series ever
I've been in the wireless tech field (both on the carrier sales side, and technician side) for a few years and I have some thoughts...
So hear me out, I don't want to sound like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat but I've been doing my own personal research on LG smartphones. I've actually made note and date of every LG I've sold, and also any that my peers may have bought.
Most of them came back to me with various problems ex: camera failing to open, batteries draining quickly, apps crashing abruptly etc. Some had regular wear and tear, others were in perfect condition. But the thing that I've noticed the most, is that not a single LG has lasted for more than 13 months. That has always been the cutoff point. This to me is unbelievable.
I had my suspicions before I had gotten into this field professionally, when a friend of mine from a few states over was complaining of his LG g4 locking up with the error msg "Android system has stopped working". I asked if he had still kept his original receipt and box together from the time of purchase. And wouldn't you know...
Exactly. 13. Months.
Hmmmm...
Ok LG *CoughEveryYearUpgradeProgramCough*
I thought, "maybe I'm just crazy". Such a large company surely couldn't get away with such a scheme, right?...Right???
Skip forward to when I moved out of my parents house. They now had an empty space to make a guest room and wanted to outfit it with a new TV on the wall. Dad gets a good deal on a new 4k LG TV from Costco, wall mounts it, and generally it only gets used when we have company over (which isn't all to often).
You wouldn't believe it, but guess what?? Dead. Month 13, unresponsive.
....
Ok.
Flash forward to my short time working at T-Mobile (3 months, I was in between moves and needed work). This is when the LG G6 was launching. We had gotten a demo unit to display at a brand new location. I personally set it up, and maintained the live demo. Within 1 month, we realized it was defective and there was a recall. No big deal, these things happen. 2nd LG G6 is delivered by our new LG rep. He helps me set up the new demo unit display and we get to talking...
He was completely aware of the 13 month situation, and verified that my suspicions were not only accurate, but are in fact true. He warned me to never purchase an LG device.
He explained how much flack he had caught from all of the other stores he's been districted to, and how many others like myself have noticed similar happenings.
Needless to say, I was blown away. Also, spoiler alert but that 2nd LG G6 became unable to charge within 2 weeks because it "detected moisture" in the charging port, good grief.
Tl;dr
LG is a horrible smartphone company. LG is a horrible company overall. You only buy LG if you hate yourself. I would feel completely comfortable watching this company fade out of exsistance.
If you've made it this far, congratulations. If anyone else has a similar story please reply to this comment, I would love to read them. Thanks again TechAltar for being as wonderful as you are. You are seriously an amazing source of information, and I can't wait to see what you have to share next!
Glad to see you've finally managed to air this one !
And an interesting one it is.
As a consumer I'd say the only thing that I find appeal in LG nowadays is their commitment to audio quality. The rest is getting meh-er as time goes by.
LG has to improve their marketing and quality assurance. You go to a website like Reddit and you wouldn't believe people are posting about the same device. With some the phone is a slice of Heaven and with others it reads like they purchased the equivalent of a carnival prize. I had to go through three LG V20s before I got the golden ticket. The 1st one had audio problems while video recording. The 2nd had problems with completing voice commands. When I brought that one back to T-Mobile they were going to try the old send it in under warranty route. I told them there was no way I was going to accept a refurb unit after less than a week of purchasing the phone...give me one new off the shelf or give me a refund. The 3rd time was the charm with a device that has performed well for close to two years. Another thing is LG needs to go back to providing the features that made their phones stand out from the herd like replaceable batteries. LG decided to be more Samsung-like with their devices so when I got the urge to upgrade, I cut out the middleman and purchased a Samsung phone.
I agree on spectrum placement of LG devices. LG should finally decide to having one true flagship and sell mobile phones at OnePlus prices with the G7 being in the 500 dollar range and the V30 being their true in the 600 to 700 dollar range. The only reason I got a V30+ was that wide-angle camera, it came with 128GB, headphones, and T-mobile had a BOGO promo going on.
Thanks for the effort, I like your videos, long time fan.
As always a great video and very unique content. Keep up the great work.
I had an LG G3.For that time was extremly innovative,like 78% screen to body ratio (like the Samsung A8,which is an infinity display).Had Dolby Atmos classifies speakers and 5.5 inch 2K LCD Display,having a 13Mp shooter and impressive DAC.However nowadays they are exactly as you said,not value not premium,not innovative but trying to catch up.Also I see that they choose BTS because of us,the fans(armies).AND I LOVE BTS OMGASH,BLESSES BE THOSE BOYS.And you can deduce from my crisis why they chose them.THE G7 HAS LIKE A BTS THEME,GAAAAAH.I'D FRIKIN LICK THE DISPLAY WHENEVER I POWER IT ON...
At 6:55 , Nokia is also in between since it is premium but still provides value for money.
Marketing is their BIGGEST issue in America.
Get Cardi B, Rihanna, Taylor Swift and some Actors and Athletes to promote the phones and they'll make millions more