What exactly is St. Lucian Creole and how does it compare to Haitian Creole?

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  • In this video we discussed St. Lucian Creole from a Haitian perspective.
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  • @pyscez93
    @pyscez93 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m fluent with both, to take it a step further I feel like u could have mention that even in Haiti the creole in north is spoken a little differently like in Cap-Haitian(Okap) and for me I fell like creole in Okap is close to sound like creole in Martinique, Guadeloupe, and St- Lucia. That how I understand them because my father’s side of the family is from the Port-de-Paix, Okcap area and I would her the slight difference when he and my mom spoke lol

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good points. Thanks for bringing that up. We are from the south (Fonds-des-Nègres/ Aquin). We might explore that a bit more. Thanks.

    • @PurplePillRiches
      @PurplePillRiches ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My family from La tortue,Port de paix, n Jean-rabel area. The Creole there is different from Port au Prince and South Haiti

    • @lonalxaia
      @lonalxaia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@colormyculture4You forgot to add Trinidad.

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lonalxaia yes, we forgot. We knew and older Trinidadian woman that spoke creole. She never left Trinidad which was interesting. I believe the language is lost there.

    • @lonalxaia
      @lonalxaia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colormyculture4 they still have schools there that teach it. Especially in Paramin.

  • @juliaalexander1606
    @juliaalexander1606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi very informative
    Iam trying to learn St Lucia 🇱🇨 Creole as I have not been able to find a suitable course in spoken language and written words

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I have not seen any courses or books teaching St. Lucian Creole in the US. It might exist, but I have not seen it. I have seen one or two videos teaching some basics, but that is it. I hope you do find something suitable soon. There's a couple for Haitian Creole though. Another option will be to find a tutor from St. Lucia. Just a thought.

    • @juliaalexander1606
      @juliaalexander1606 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks iam from London your suggestion was great I will ask a cousin from St Lucia 🇱🇨 😀 😊

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliaalexander1606 Your welcome. It is an awesome idea to reach out your cousin. We wish you success.

    • @airmat9
      @airmat9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here on YT l’ve found the sample of teaching by Twossaints useful. They also have an online course at their website.

    • @izeayiajames2954
      @izeayiajames2954 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.saintluciancreole.dbfrank.net/dictionary/KweyolDictionary.pdf

  • @NadouLove7
    @NadouLove7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Had a St. Lucian 🇱🇨 friend who understands Haiti 🇭🇹 Creole more than I understand her patois. (Sak kap fet? Sak pase? Haitian creole) sa ka fêt? St. Lucian creole)

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing. I can understand that being the case. The St. Lucians I have met here in the United States seem to understand more and also know more about our culture, food, music, etc than we (well most Haitians) know about their culture, food, music, ect. Just from my experience.

    • @christelleregis6061
      @christelleregis6061 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We say say sak pase as well

  • @colormyculture4
    @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Are you familiar with St. Lucian Creole? Let us know.

    • @izeayiajames2954
      @izeayiajames2954 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes ma’am

    • @richieb3602
      @richieb3602 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oui. Mwe ça palé a shi kweole Ste Lucie.

    • @kakakhodenn9128
      @kakakhodenn9128 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not much different from that spoken in Dominica.

  • @Yehmanu
    @Yehmanu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kwéyòl Sentlisyen ni diféwan bagay ka pwoché'y dè Kwéyòl Donmnik, Matnik épi Gwadloup. Sé lengwis-la ka menm di tout sé kwéyòl-sala, sé yonn lang tou sèl yo yé, kwèyòl pitit zantiy. Mandé mwen si'w lé konparé gramè a sé kwéyòl-sala sa Ayiti, man ké kontan ka ba'w an pal.
    Saint-Lucian Creole has different features which makes it closed to Dominican, Martinican and Guadeloupean Creole. The linguists even say all these creoles, they are one single language, the lesser antillean french creole. Ask me if you want to compare grammar of these creoles to the haïtian one, i will be glad to help you.

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. That is very informational.

    • @airmat9
      @airmat9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Yehmanu I have native level comprehension of Kweyol Sentilisyen or Patois. I can read it but just now starting to speak it. One issue in transmitting the language concerns standardised spelling. Yours here conveys the sounds of the original English/French/Spanish vocabulary very well. I wonder if the related creoles have each developed their own spelling conventions on the different islands?

    • @Yiriyah
      @Yiriyah 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, they've developed their own spelling conventions.

    • @airmat9
      @airmat9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yiriyah that makes sense, right. How did you confirm this? Any textual sources?

  • @richieb3602
    @richieb3602 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Correction. Creole is not spoken by any means in Grenada. It USED to be spoken by Grenadians two generations ago but they have lost it for the most part. Only the names of some villages and fruits and vegetables remain now. A grenadian cannot now converse in creole at least the majority cannot.

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So, it existed in Grenada but not anymore. We suspect that to be the case. Now that I am thinking about it, I think parts of Trinidad had French based creole too that is dead now. Thanks for your comment and clarification.

    • @lonalxaia
      @lonalxaia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@colormyculture4Carriacou in Grenada might have parts that's still speak it.

    • @andrewDaMack
      @andrewDaMack 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does Grenada have an English based vernacular?

  • @cetybarberousse290
    @cetybarberousse290 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🇭🇹 and 🇱🇨

  • @edmanecastor8668
    @edmanecastor8668 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes St Lucia and Haitian Creole have a lot similarity

    • @jojolove3415
      @jojolove3415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dominica as well.

    • @PurplePillRiches
      @PurplePillRiches ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I understand all the Carribbean islands Creoles, including Louisiana and French-Guiana. We should make a Creole movement like the Latinos got a Spanish movement

  • @jejelaurent9495
    @jejelaurent9495 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I understand some

  • @Yellowmanization
    @Yellowmanization 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sa bèl, mwen ka aprann kreyòl lakay mwen san pwofesè kounye-a é sa ka alé trè byen. Mwen ka viv an anglè kon sa li difisil san alé an peyi natal. Désolé si ou fè an erè. :D

  • @cetybarberousse290
    @cetybarberousse290 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, it would have been better if a verbal example was given about the difference on both "Creole"

  • @edmanecastor8668
    @edmanecastor8668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great 🎉video

  • @heathylife3261
    @heathylife3261 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lucian creol is like martinican creol , when I was in Lucia, I spoke martinican creol, everybody undestood

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome, thanks for sharing.

  • @marvinhoward5626
    @marvinhoward5626 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Trinidad and Tobago, has the language too.

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. We do need to take the time to look at the history of languages in Trinidad.

  • @paixdanslemonde55
    @paixdanslemonde55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haitan Créole is not à patois because it is not broken French.

    • @colormyculture4
      @colormyculture4  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. I read that from a linguist. Thank you.

    • @christelleregis6061
      @christelleregis6061 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      One of the creole language are broken French. They are their own language