It's both surprising and comforting to see a top 500 player with aim as bad as mine. Proof that game sense and team play are just as important if not more, which is exactly what I love about OW.
Oh no gamesense is way more important than aim. You *need* a certain level of aim to play an FPS, but after that it becomes much less important. Even on a hero like Widow. (She gets value just by existing.)
I seriously love how everyone just mutually agrees to not respect Flats widow and just does the craziest things cuz they know they wont get hit. EX. 9:46 , 5:31 , 9:16 Its ABSOLUTELY COMICAL
0:26 I think it has to do with when and where you jump. Jump up then at the apex shoot straight down I think? Assuming knockback remains the same on ground and in air, jump would get you slightly higher from the higher starting point. There could also be something to do with the momentum from the jump getting slightly carried.
I haven't played ashe in a while, but I'm pretty sure that the coachgun carries your momentum (i.e. you want to use it while still in the upwards movement of your jump, and definitely before you start to come down)
haha on a different note i had so much fun watching the video man, qp has a hero variety and interactions comp cant offer. like if this was comp everyone would be angry about u not getting picks, the dva wouldve try hard as hog etc
Something about the angry “Cheeto man!” Make me think of Alway Sunny in Philadelphia, “Denis is asshole, why Charlie hate?” “Because Denis is bastard man!”
I'm not top 500 but for all the snipers (widow, ana, ashe, hanzo) I have toggle crouch on bc it's not something ppl think of. A lot of regular sniper nests get better 10 fold when you're able to stay crouched
0:19 Um akthually mithter flath, the reazin you made it the thecond time wath becauthe you jumped before uthing the coacth gun the thecond time whiltht you failed to do stho the firsth time.
3:34 Every time I suggest that all tanks besides like the bottom 3 (now 2 after JQ buff) need to be nerfed, nobody seems to understand what seems obvious to me. Like, the whole reason Ball is so difficult to get value out of in OW2 is because you can't leave your team alone with a tank for more than a few seconds without the tank dominating 1v2, even 1v3 matchups at times. Tank is so disproportionally valuable compared to the other roles in OW2.
Well theres only 1 tank for a team, if we had the same tanks from ow 1 then it would be the most useless role, yes some tanks need to be nerfed and others buffed but nerfing all of them cause they do their job is just a bad tank. You cant play ball how you used to in ow1 ball now you need to dive but still be close enough to your team to peel not go off and staying in their backline like in ow1. Like flats said the rank 1 tank was a ball player. He is still viable but you have to adopt a different playstyle
@@shanetaylor7418 First off, I'm not proposing the same tanks as OW1. Clearly, they needed changes to fit a game where there's no off tank vs main tank. That being said, I don't think a tank needs to be near-unkillable and simultaneously capable of more DPS than the DPS role to function as a tank. Again, the fact that a tank can 1v2 (in some cases 1v3) non-tanks should strike you as problematic. I think Rein is a great example of how all tanks should've been reworked for OW2. In exchange for some lost kill potential, he received a health buff. Most tanks DID NOT have to trade anything for their health/dmg mit buff. The mega tanks of OW2 are not healthy for the game. I'm not even calling for them to be gutted. Just brought down to the levels of the weaker tanks. By the way, I wasn't suggesting that Ball is even weak. Rather, if the tank can't leave the frontline for a short time without a single hero rolling his team, that maybe that hero is a bit overpowered.
Junkerqueen Vs Dva - From a logical perspective Dva's barrels are much larger indicating possibly larger caliber or more dense munitions. Realistically Dva's guns would spread through everything like a long range chain saw. However for balance purpose they clearly made it weal regardless of science or logic.
It's both surprising and comforting to see a top 500 player with aim as bad as mine. Proof that game sense and team play are just as important if not more, which is exactly what I love about OW.
Oh no gamesense is way more important than aim.
You *need* a certain level of aim to play an FPS, but after that it becomes much less important. Even on a hero like Widow. (She gets value just by existing.)
Yes! I'm very bad at aiming so it's quite motivating to watch this video. Also happy that he can laugh at him mistakes, hehe.
His aim with tanks is still probably waaaaaaaaay better than ours. It's just that they're less aim focused.
Bagging a tank that focuses you all game is a top 5 Overwatch experience.
Ftfy : bagging anyone that focuses you all game.
@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Banging* ftfy
I seriously love how everyone just mutually agrees to not respect Flats widow and just does the craziest things cuz they know they wont get hit.
EX. 9:46 , 5:31 , 9:16 Its ABSOLUTELY COMICAL
Pure comedygold
Do they truly know?? I don't watch flats play widow much
This video makes me feel less self conscious about how bad I am at sniping thank you flats
if ur self conscious ab it j hit more shots
10:00 that dono timing was crazy lmao
he mimic'd dva's shooting tempo pretty good
All hail the coom lord, king of Cheetos and a god in the eyes of all bronze players
Cringe character
@@stephankim8086 mad you got pooped on by a meatball and his stationary turret
@@himbolover69 god i hate ow nerds
@@himbolover69 you def a tiny pp torb user
OK, that Mercy pocketed SMG kill on the Dva was pretty funny...
So would you say that a Torb and Dva team up would be Cheeto & Dorito?
:o
Flats about to have PTSD of the "Nice try ! Nice try ! Nice try !"
Dude flats on widow is the funniest thing😭🤣 not bc what you think but bc he's genuinely having fun and making jokes about stuff 😭
Holy shit! 1:51 Bob just YEETED that baby dva into another dimension! 🤣👍🏻
1:53 idk why but calling Bob on this baby DVA made me cackle a bit
this looking like found footage of my widow aim
0:26 I think it has to do with when and where you jump. Jump up then at the apex shoot straight down I think?
Assuming knockback remains the same on ground and in air, jump would get you slightly higher from the higher starting point. There could also be something to do with the momentum from the jump getting slightly carried.
I haven't played ashe in a while, but I'm pretty sure that the coachgun carries your momentum (i.e. you want to use it while still in the upwards movement of your jump, and definitely before you start to come down)
haha on a different note i had so much fun watching the video man, qp has a hero variety and interactions comp cant offer. like if this was comp everyone would be angry about u not getting picks, the dva wouldve try hard as hog etc
The "missed by like 3 miles" comment followed by "less than 3" tts was hilariously appropriate 😆
Beware of the Cheeto man's Cheeto gun.
That dva spamming voice lines while being rolled
THE BOB RUNNING OVER THE DVA 😂😂
Something about the angry “Cheeto man!” Make me think of Alway Sunny in Philadelphia, “Denis is asshole, why Charlie hate?” “Because Denis is bastard man!”
You're not playing Widowmaker poorly, Flats - you're playing lore-accurate Widowmaker
This video is just pure chaos
2:05 probably meant from a lore perspective ig? It makes sense for queen though
"1 Shot, 1 Kill"
you gave me hope that I can be a top 500 too with such aim if I learn tactics and stuff
The absolute irony of the donation voice 10:02
Flats thought the phrase shoot for the stars was about aim.
The things you said after that DVa annoyed ya one too many times 🤣 Treating the enemy team like the pests they were lmao
Imagine losing to a widow as a tank WITH TWO LIVES
Clean cut at 10:27
Awwww. Flats and I have the same condition. (BWD) Bipolar widow disorder.
I fired but then I miss I fired again then I miss I miss again then I fried them I miss!
and then I passed out in the snow
I'm not top 500 but for all the snipers (widow, ana, ashe, hanzo) I have toggle crouch on bc it's not something ppl think of. A lot of regular sniper nests get better 10 fold when you're able to stay crouched
Ah yes my lord and saviour Cheeto man. (And Flats)
That DVA was just hell bent to annoy the streamers. Never mattered what was going on next to them if they saw Flats it was on sight
Bro the torb mains know he is meta
Torbjorn just wants to tell you about the taste of Flaming Hot Cheetos (TM)... by shooting them directly at you.
But the big question really is...
Where is the Lays gamer?
Don't be silly
Gamers don't get Lays
Or Laid
@@waitwhat238 I must not be a gamer, damn.
Well, explains why I suck at OW at least.
I will reiterate from a different video, your aim on widow makes me feel better about my own, thank you flats
He’s like mcree but tankier with a better ability, he gives up hitscan for no drop off and a better ult
This game really leans far too hard into AD AD spam.
He said ball would break the game in January well season 3 came out
Ball broke the game
YEAH! Where's the hammer ??
one-player focus = throwing
the nice try hotkey dva xD
Flats widow is like aiming on controller without aim assist
I would love to see you use baston and solider (maybe you do I don’t know about it)but I think you on them characters would be like crack
Great game Flats!
0:19 Um akthually mithter flath, the reazin you made it the thecond time wath becauthe you jumped before uthing the coacth gun the thecond time whiltht you failed to do stho the firsth time.
Bro this widow gameplay feels like how I play lmfao
Good Widow Flats
The vacation thing is exactly what I think. Like I gave you a month heads up and its not a request.
I wonder what he actually mains in dps
flats the dps for tank players is symmetra
source: me a sym player though i dont play tank just zarya LOL
If i headshotted a friggin mid ulting lucio in the head i would freak out and clip it. He just says “tuff”😂
Skill issue on my part lol
hammond's bullets should deal 1 more damage
I am a Cheeto man enjoyer
Rank 1 is rain player right now
Where's the hammer
If that dva would have focused the mercy pocketing she would have won. Desperate to kill a streamer I guess
I don’t really play Ashe…
You threw more dynamite in this game than I’ve thrown ever.
I think you made it the second time cause you jumped before couch gunning on the second attempt
everyone loves pewdiepie
called the ball meta two months ago... wow
Even Stormtroopers have better aim than that. Lmao.
Flats why don´t you put the chat in your videos?
3:34 Every time I suggest that all tanks besides like the bottom 3 (now 2 after JQ buff) need to be nerfed, nobody seems to understand what seems obvious to me. Like, the whole reason Ball is so difficult to get value out of in OW2 is because you can't leave your team alone with a tank for more than a few seconds without the tank dominating 1v2, even 1v3 matchups at times. Tank is so disproportionally valuable compared to the other roles in OW2.
Well theres only 1 tank for a team, if we had the same tanks from ow 1 then it would be the most useless role, yes some tanks need to be nerfed and others buffed but nerfing all of them cause they do their job is just a bad tank.
You cant play ball how you used to in ow1 ball now you need to dive but still be close enough to your team to peel not go off and staying in their backline like in ow1. Like flats said the rank 1 tank was a ball player. He is still viable but you have to adopt a different playstyle
@@shanetaylor7418 First off, I'm not proposing the same tanks as OW1. Clearly, they needed changes to fit a game where there's no off tank vs main tank. That being said, I don't think a tank needs to be near-unkillable and simultaneously capable of more DPS than the DPS role to function as a tank.
Again, the fact that a tank can 1v2 (in some cases 1v3) non-tanks should strike you as problematic. I think Rein is a great example of how all tanks should've been reworked for OW2. In exchange for some lost kill potential, he received a health buff. Most tanks DID NOT have to trade anything for their health/dmg mit buff.
The mega tanks of OW2 are not healthy for the game. I'm not even calling for them to be gutted. Just brought down to the levels of the weaker tanks. By the way, I wasn't suggesting that Ball is even weak. Rather, if the tank can't leave the frontline for a short time without a single hero rolling his team, that maybe that hero is a bit overpowered.
Junkerqueen Vs Dva - From a logical perspective Dva's barrels are much larger indicating possibly larger caliber or more dense munitions.
Realistically Dva's guns would spread through everything like a long range chain saw. However for balance purpose they clearly made it weal regardless of science or logic.
nice try!
flats at trolling dps
Fats :D (Top 500 joke)
I love watching Flats, but that "my dps is higher than your peak" comment... bro, you play the game for a living.
flats your aim was horrific in this video XD lucky your not the kind of person to get annoyed from the game
flats,pls,dont tell me u shot the ground and said how i didnt get on top,U DIDNT JUMP U NEED TO JUMP AS WELL BRO
:)
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Lord flats widow is rough to watch and even with him saying his dps is high rank well of course you play with other top 500 like emong and seagull 💀
dude, if you have one weak link on a team when you're that high up the ladder, you're gonna get abused so bad it'll basically be a 4v5
skull emoji
get off widow plz