Reviewers keep doing Audi dirty by putting the top tier competition car against Audis mid tier. Would love to see you donthis again with the both manufacturers top of line.
A bit of an unfair comparison between a sports car and a coupe built on a hatchback platform, the Audi looks modern/stunningly beautiful compared the Porsche timeless design that will age well in 50 years time. The Porsche Cayman is a focused Sports car with midship engine, no useless 911 type backseat. Give me a flat six BoxEngine coupled onto a manual transmission to prevent redundant left leg🦵for a well deserved analog drive, the feeling is so rewarding no matter how slow or fast you drive. That to me is my definition of driving purity.
It’s a tricky comparison but one I did before buying the Cayman. I do agree with your final statement though- a friend has a 4.0 NA six with a manual and it’s just next level! Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
You could say that but the TT in various versions, usually the RS version have appeared in at least one comparison tests and won. I’m not entirely sure it matters that the TT was built on a hatchback platform, I think you need to look back at how Audi dominated rallying years ago and why.
I prefer the Porsche too but it can’t do snow in Tahoe like our TT did recently Our TT handled the snow like it was a dry road it was brilliant that Quattro
Not really fair comparison tbh. Tts would be closer ttrs would be more biased audi direction. This is pretty much an audi tt thats more in line with a golf gti up against a cayman gts which is more 911. Shame as I thought it was going to be an interesting comparison but it just turned out to be pretty pointless tbh
Quattro TTS beats the Cayman hands down. The Cayman is crap on ice or snow which we get in the UK, whereas the Quattro eats it up and leaves the Cayman at the bottom of the hill.
Just came across this channel. This guys pretty good on camera reviewer. Lets be honest Cayman will be better driving however most will buy on looks as we are not rwcing drivers....The TT wins. The 718 is like a back to front frog.
I have always loved the Cayman But any car that can't even handle a set of golf clubs is out for me. I bought a TTS and I love it for fun and practicality.
When I first started considering a Cayman, I took a test drive both on 2.5 GTS and 4.0 GTS. At first I could not really see what all the fuss was about. 4.0 sounds great, but 2.5 is by no means bad. The thing was, 2.5 GTS had around 15k km on it, and I've driven it hard on the road, did launches. 4.0 had, I think 300 km or something and I was one of the first people to test drive it. So I was mostly gentle with it, but had sports exhaust on. At first I did not really think that 4.0 was worth extra money and extra gas, but went for it for two reasons: I am allergic to turbos (even though 2.5 is miles ahead of my Audi in terms of turbo lag) and second hand market prices were abysmal. After a couple months of ownership I found out that lower end torque is really fine compared to 2.5 due to sheer amount of power alone. And I am not a speed junkie, 0-100 times worry me less than rolling acceleration. When I've finally broken in the Cayman, I started pushing it to redline, and it's intoxicating. Engine wakes up after 4k rpm and starts to sing, and going from 7k to 8k feels like a nice and warm hug. That's not something that you have in 2.5 unfortunately. So in the end it depends on what you're comparing 2.5 GTS to. In absolute value 2.5 is a tremendously good package and I'd recommend it to anyone. The driving experience, weight distribution, chassis, steering - it's all there. It's just 4.0 is too good. As for Audi TT. It took me probably 20 minutes to write it off my shortlist. It's really just an Audi in a form factor of a sports car, but not a true sports car. And no, it's not a baby R8.
Wow! Thanks for that feedback. I think if I had the budget for the 4.0, that would have taken my fancy I do feel when the 2.5 hits 7k rpm it starts to sing however it ends so quickly…I just want more! Thanks again- enjoy your GTS!
@@paulhancock855 Mid-engine RWD is surprisingly manageable in winter due to more weight on the rear axle. Of course, you can't plow through the snow like with Quattro, but if you live in the city and streets are cleaned often, you don't need to compromise on owning a sportscar. As for front-engine RWD, I would not get it in my climate. BMWs are a meme here.
I’ve had both a 981 S, 2.5 GTS and TTRS. Much preferred the RS for daily driving, noise and straight line performance. The RS is more of a 911 4S rival than a cayman in terms of pace. Having said that, the 4.0 is very special, the problem is they are pretty crap as a daily and c.£80k for a comparable spec. For a weekend toy I would just get a GT4. Each to their own, but writing off the TT so quickly is pure snobbery. Oh and it is a baby R8 when you get blown-off at the traffic lights rain or shine 🤣
Hmm not really sure it was a fair competition from the off. Not knocking the TT which is a great car especially for the price, but the Cayman was always going to be the winner. Thanks anyway for the vid.
i found out this month, after a year and a half, that if you use the big wheel in the centre console you can switch between the menus in android auto or carplay in a single gesture - push it right and it nudges you into the side bar or vice-versa. always thought it was fiddly too so that was a game changer.
me who cant afford either of these (yet): *hmm such a comprehensive review on these 2 very attainable daily driver cars.* but yeah, the base 718 Cayman is my dream car. why base? less is more.
On the subject of looks I have a 2016 TTS and sometimes I park it beside a 2015 718 and the Porsche looks very old to me. On engines the Audi 5 cylinder turbo has sounds that a 718 will never equal. Choice wise I’d choose a TTRS over the the Porsche, even more so as it’s so hard to come by now.
@@LifeInMotionuk Yeah it’s quite something. I watched a clip from Fifth Gear, with a TTRS, a 2.0 turbo Jag, a bm something and the Porsche. Only looked it up after watching your video and the Audi won. End of the day it’s down to money as well as preference. If had a choice and the money I’d still got for a 5 cylinder turbo Audi coupe. Got to wonder what rationale Audi have for binning the TT and the R8, maybe they have plans to bring out an electric alternative. If they bring something out that’s not in the same vein as the TT and R8 it’ll be a mistake. Still a market for sports cars, I don’t see Porsche going in a different direction from what essentially they’ve always been known for.
I don’t recognise that fifth gear video but sounds good! Audi coupe would be a very very good choice. I was very surprised and gutted about the R8 and TT being no longer. Both superb and great successes. I’ve definitely got the R8 on the list, but an early manual coupe would do me! Agreed, but suspect electric will be what’s coming. And perhaps they want to avoid a situation where we compare new cars with the TT and R8 Very true. I know the electric cayman is on the way but they’ve also made small improvements to make the best. It’s worked very well for 50+ years
@@C4793-h3o very cool- will have a look. Hopefully Porsche will keep the Macan and Cayenne as their SUV range and anything new will be completely different. I hope the Cayman name continues to be a market leader for sports cars!
@@LifeInMotionuk Have you driven a TTS yet? I think the Audi you drove only had twin compared with quad exhausts on the TTS. The reason I ask is in dynamic mode on my car the exhaust sounds uncannily like a 5 cylinder. I’m not sure if that’s because of the quad exhausts, valves in the exhausts or something else Audi have done. Here’s the vid I was telling you about: th-cam.com/video/G8yANp3iXpU/w-d-xo.html
Okay I got my Audi TT 45 TFSI Quattro (5.1 sec 0-60) this week, to go with my 718 Boxster (4.9 sec 0-60) both automatic, both from 2019. My thoughts are the 718 wins in every way, you accelerate in the Porsche you have a big grin on your face for the next half minute, with the TT its just 'oh Im going fast'. Porsche is nicer inside just wins. However, I really like how the TT feels its a lovely solid car, I like being able to see the engine in the audi, also I cant take the Porsche 'to the shops' in many areas where i live but the Audi would be fine., its a better daily driver. The answer does seem to be own both!
Thanks for the comment. Exactly what we needed, someone that owns them both. It’s clear the 718 is more of what we all want from a sports car, but how important is practicality to you…
Indeed, although I know Audi are not planning to release a New ‘TT’ after just launching their ‘Final Edition’. I believe Porsche are already testing the new Boxster and Cayman, but it’s believed to be electric!
Bought a TT recently and I'm surprised how luxurious and comfortable the ride is. However the steering feels a bit too disconnected for me, I got more feedback in my Opel Corsa...
i got tts just because of lots of snow in winter and its my only car atm. if snow is no problem or you got other car, cayman is no brainer. also insurance
If I had access to a TT-RS, I would have likely done just that. On the flip side, if you’re buying a brand new TT black edition with a specification similar to the TT in this video, you could easily get into a 718 Cayman…perhaps food for thought to many
Why do people not properly launch this car lol. 11:45. Didn’t even turn traction off, switch drive modes and hold gas and brake at the same time then release the brake. Such a waste! This car has launch control!! Use it!!!
The question about the sound between the 981 and 718 will be around as long as the two models exist… and the winner will always be the 981 - it’s just on a totally different level. Just that alone will give an ownership experience that cannot be rivalled each and every time its driven (particularly with the GTS and GT4 models). However the 718 is, in every other way that can be scientifically measured, the better car. That will also give its own different but enjoyable ownership experience, albeit not as unique (IMO).
Thanks for that, Eddie. I do agree! IMO I like the sound of the 718 but how could it ever live up to the N/A 981! For me, the 718 is the one it go for in my situation, but if it was just a weekend car, perhaps it would be different. Thanks for the comment!
A new car will star at roughly £52k - used 718’s can go from £30k’s through to £100k depending on the variant. The the car in this video with its age and mileage would cost around £50k
The TT is brilliant .fair enough the rear seats are not great . But tne Porsche hasnt got any . The porsche has two shoe boxes for you to put your golf clubs onto. If you can . Ive owned a TT for years ive thought about the Porsche from time to time but instantly dumped that idea.
If you're looking for a TT go with the TT-RS; the one equipped with a foot pedal specifically. The multi clutch of the base TT and TTS is the equivalent of someone periodically tapping on your shoulder and demanding $5k. The Mechatronic unit is expensive too. These also require dealership only tools so you aren't putting it on a trolley jack for an afternoon. The compact design of the 4L Turbo engine also makes replacing one component a matter of taking out several which increases labor times therefore labor bills. The TT-RS is a slightly larger engine and easier to work on and is opposite of what was written above.
Only twice the price! There’s the person looking for the TT you could talk into a TTS maybe, but TTRS isn’t even the same league of car (hence the price) typically you aren’t going to cross shop a base TT and a TTRS.
@@juelz4516 Considering the multi clutch on the TT/TTS is $6200 to replace, the timing belt another $4000 and most other components require multiple branches into the service manual to get done one can easily justify the TT-RS at $10 to $15K more given it is chain driven, has no multi clutch and isn't as labor intensive to say replace a thermostat or a water pump. Thermostats on all cars require removal of the airbox but the TT/TTS also require the intake duct, the alternator, radiator shroud, three times as many coolant hoses and a coolant pipe to all be removed just to get to the thermostat. The TT-RS only requires the removal of the airbox, a hose and one pipe. The water pump requires one to get to the poly V belt on the TT-RS but on the TT/TTS it's driven by that timing belt which has a top and bottom cover/ about 12 pages of reading say to the TT-RS's 4 pages. It's less a matter of savings and more one of delayed costs to own the vehicle due to the layered nature of the drive train along with the labor intensive design.
@@mightymulatto3000 In what country a timing belt costs 4000 dollars? Plus, it doesn't even have a timing belt. The 2.0 TFSI is chain. All TT's are equipped with double clutch gearboxes, be it normal, TTD or RS. The RS just has a model that can cope with the extra torque.
@@Alexandru-T. My 2010 Audi TTS is belt driven. The shop guide lists the steps to get it off. It's also listed in the service schedule as: Timing Belt - Replace. Check condition of timing belt tensioning system, dampening pulleys, and idler pulleys and replace if necessary every 110,000 miles. TTS only. Parts are about $500 total since the water pump is down there too behind the upper and lower timing belt cover. The $250/hr labor rate is what inflates the cost. Quoted as a 14 hour job.
Ill take the TTS or RS anyday over a Porsche and throw in a tune plus still have a shtz ton of money left over while I'm blowing the doors if the Porsche. 😂
I’ve had 2 tt’s and 1 TTS. And now have a Cayman S. Cayman is faster and handles better (IMO). The TT’s are better in the snow, more room. I’ve even gotten 6 ft step ladder in side. They’re both great cars…depends on your needs.
I sold my 530bhp Audi TT RS for a Manual Cayman 2.5 GTS - The Audi was the most boring car I have ever owned, and this was very hard for me to accept as I always dreamed of owning a MK 3 TT RS, but after 7 months of ownership I had to get rid
@@LifeInMotionuk this may sound like a very big positive but it really isn’t, it’s too easy to drive fast! And you really don’t feel like you’re going that fast because of it! There is so much traction it makes for a boring drive, to feel like your pushing the car, you have to do silly silly speeds! And the understeer is horrendous! It feels like a very heavy car once you’re throwing it around corners! Also the parts are way more expensive vs the GTS, you don’t even want to know how much a front set of discs and pads set me back on the RS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ah so that does make complete sense! That’s one of my problems with electric cars…they’re gather speed so quickly it becomes a non-event! Shame the TT-RS parts are expensive, as I hoped they wouldn’t be ! It sounds like the move to the GTS was a good one- enjoy!
@@juelz4516 actually my best time using draggy was 2.9 seconds to 60. The novelty of launching the car soon wares off mate. Buy one and let me know how you feel after 6 months
@commantrosexetlos4700 I did a comparison of a TTS versus a base 2.0 l Cayman and you can find similar prices, but the Cayman would be either high mileage or older. I guess the benefit of the Cayman is they hold value better, and have now been announced as discontinued so potentially are a good place to put your money (the same could be said for the TT that is in the same situation)
@@LifeInMotionuk yeah they hold their price very good but i feel retarded to buy used a 2.0l 300hp for 60k..ttrs is under 40k..c63amg too is cheaper..f10 m5 and m6 are cheaper..f type 550hp is a bit cheaper..new supra with b58 engine is cheaper..so why to buy that 718? M3 and m4 s55 are 30 to 40k..new 340i g20 is 40k..718 is wayyyy overpriced
@commantrosexetlos4700 I’d say if you want a sports car, and you need badge appeal then the Cayman does well. More people are looking at a Cayman than an M4. F Type is a good shout although arguably no where near as good to drive. Depends on what’s important.
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A fairer comparison would have been this Porsche, and the TT RS, not just the Black Edition.
the TT S would be the best comparison performance wise
I'd say a
- 718 GTS vs a TTS
or a
- 718 GTS 4.0 vs a TT RS
My 2023 tts is everything I need it to be. I’m so glad I’ve acquired one of the last
I’ve heard brilliant things about the TTS! End of an era so enjoy 👌🏻
@@LifeInMotionuk thanks, keep up the vids
Reviewers keep doing Audi dirty by putting the top tier competition car against Audis mid tier. Would love to see you donthis again with the both manufacturers top of line.
You have better Chose a TTRS or a TTS to compare.
Fax
Ttrs. I think it will have collectible value that will exceed a Cayman GTS.
And crazy to say but it’s more practical if you use it as a daily.
A bit of an unfair comparison between a sports car and a coupe built on a hatchback platform, the Audi looks modern/stunningly beautiful compared the Porsche timeless design that will age well in 50 years time. The Porsche Cayman is a focused Sports car with midship engine, no useless 911 type backseat. Give me a flat six BoxEngine coupled onto a manual transmission to prevent redundant left leg🦵for a well deserved analog drive, the feeling is so rewarding no matter how slow or fast you drive. That to me is my definition of driving purity.
It’s a tricky comparison but one I did before buying the Cayman. I do agree with your final statement though- a friend has a 4.0 NA six with a manual and it’s just next level! Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
You could say that but the TT in various versions, usually the RS version have appeared in at least one comparison tests and won.
I’m not entirely sure it matters that the TT was built on a hatchback platform, I think you need to look back at how Audi dominated rallying years ago and why.
I prefer the Porsche too but it can’t do snow in Tahoe like our TT did recently
Our TT handled the snow like it was a dry road it was brilliant that Quattro
Sometimes quattro can’t be beaten! Enjoy
Not really fair comparison tbh. Tts would be closer ttrs would be more biased audi direction. This is pretty much an audi tt thats more in line with a golf gti up against a cayman gts which is more 911. Shame as I thought it was going to be an interesting comparison but it just turned out to be pretty pointless tbh
Quattro TTS beats the Cayman hands down. The Cayman is crap on ice or snow which we get in the UK, whereas the Quattro eats it up and leaves the Cayman at the bottom of the hill.
I do agree quattro is far more useable in the U.K. all year round, but the LSD in the cayman GTS makes it more exciting fun!
Yes, because it's always snowing in the UK eh??..😳🙄🇬🇧
Just came across this channel. This guys pretty good on camera reviewer. Lets be honest Cayman will be better driving however most will buy on looks as we are not rwcing drivers....The TT wins. The 718 is like a back to front frog.
🙌🏻 thank you. Speaking to a TTS owner recently, they’re said they can use all of its power 95% of the time- the cayman you can’t really
I have always loved the Cayman But any car that can't even handle a set of golf clubs is out for me. I bought a TTS and I love it for fun and practicality.
When I first started considering a Cayman, I took a test drive both on 2.5 GTS and 4.0 GTS. At first I could not really see what all the fuss was about. 4.0 sounds great, but 2.5 is by no means bad. The thing was, 2.5 GTS had around 15k km on it, and I've driven it hard on the road, did launches. 4.0 had, I think 300 km or something and I was one of the first people to test drive it. So I was mostly gentle with it, but had sports exhaust on. At first I did not really think that 4.0 was worth extra money and extra gas, but went for it for two reasons: I am allergic to turbos (even though 2.5 is miles ahead of my Audi in terms of turbo lag) and second hand market prices were abysmal.
After a couple months of ownership I found out that lower end torque is really fine compared to 2.5 due to sheer amount of power alone. And I am not a speed junkie, 0-100 times worry me less than rolling acceleration. When I've finally broken in the Cayman, I started pushing it to redline, and it's intoxicating. Engine wakes up after 4k rpm and starts to sing, and going from 7k to 8k feels like a nice and warm hug. That's not something that you have in 2.5 unfortunately.
So in the end it depends on what you're comparing 2.5 GTS to. In absolute value 2.5 is a tremendously good package and I'd recommend it to anyone. The driving experience, weight distribution, chassis, steering - it's all there. It's just 4.0 is too good.
As for Audi TT. It took me probably 20 minutes to write it off my shortlist. It's really just an Audi in a form factor of a sports car, but not a true sports car. And no, it's not a baby R8.
Wow! Thanks for that feedback. I think if I had the budget for the 4.0, that would have taken my fancy
I do feel when the 2.5 hits 7k rpm it starts to sing however it ends so quickly…I just want more!
Thanks again- enjoy your GTS!
audi = winter, all year. cant say that for many sports cars
@@paulhancock855 Mid-engine RWD is surprisingly manageable in winter due to more weight on the rear axle.
Of course, you can't plow through the snow like with Quattro, but if you live in the city and streets are cleaned often, you don't need to compromise on owning a sportscar.
As for front-engine RWD, I would not get it in my climate. BMWs are a meme here.
I’ve had both a 981 S, 2.5 GTS and TTRS. Much preferred the RS for daily driving, noise and straight line performance. The RS is more of a 911 4S rival than a cayman in terms of pace. Having said that, the 4.0 is very special, the problem is they are pretty crap as a daily and c.£80k for a comparable spec. For a weekend toy I would just get a GT4. Each to their own, but writing off the TT so quickly is pure snobbery. Oh and it is a baby R8 when you get blown-off at the traffic lights rain or shine 🤣
Tt for me. After owning a bmw I prefer the confidence and sure footing of the Quattro system in all weathers
Hmm not really sure it was a fair competition from the off. Not knocking the TT which is a great car especially for the price, but the Cayman was always going to be the winner. Thanks anyway for the vid.
That Porsche looks a generation behind the Audi especially the dash
the Porsche pls
Earlier models of the mk3 TT are coming pretty cheap now. Bargains
You can get a 2016 TT Quattro for below $20,000 now, in good condition as well .
i found out this month, after a year and a half, that if you use the big wheel in the centre console you can switch between the menus in android auto or carplay in a single gesture - push it right and it nudges you into the side bar or vice-versa. always thought it was fiddly too so that was a game changer.
Ah very good to know! Thanks
@@LifeInMotionuk too bad you couldn't figure that out before you released the video, eh mate?
me who cant afford either of these (yet): *hmm such a comprehensive review on these 2 very attainable daily driver cars.*
but yeah, the base 718 Cayman is my dream car. why base? less is more.
I would do tt rs with stage 1 😊
It wasn't the first to offer the RS fixed spoiler it was on the amplified pack on the mk 2 we have the roadster from 2014.
I had the TT it was just OK. Looking to get a Cayman now.
On the subject of looks I have a 2016 TTS and sometimes I park it beside a 2015 718 and the Porsche looks very old to me. On engines the Audi 5 cylinder turbo has sounds that a 718 will never equal. Choice wise I’d choose a TTRS over the the Porsche, even more so as it’s so hard to come by now.
Interesting to hear - I do admit the soundtrack of the TTRS is superb!
@@LifeInMotionuk Yeah it’s quite something. I watched a clip from Fifth Gear, with a TTRS, a 2.0 turbo Jag, a bm something and the Porsche. Only looked it up after watching your video and the Audi won.
End of the day it’s down to money as well as preference. If had a choice and the money I’d still got for a 5 cylinder turbo Audi coupe.
Got to wonder what rationale Audi have for binning the TT and the R8, maybe they have plans to bring out an electric alternative.
If they bring something out that’s not in the same vein as the TT and R8 it’ll be a mistake.
Still a market for sports cars, I don’t see Porsche going in a different direction from what essentially they’ve always been known for.
I don’t recognise that fifth gear video but sounds good!
Audi coupe would be a very very good choice.
I was very surprised and gutted about the R8 and TT being no longer. Both superb and great successes. I’ve definitely got the R8 on the list, but an early manual coupe would do me!
Agreed, but suspect electric will be what’s coming. And perhaps they want to avoid a situation where we compare new cars with the TT and R8
Very true. I know the electric cayman is on the way but they’ve also made small improvements to make the best. It’s worked very well for 50+ years
@@C4793-h3o very cool- will have a look. Hopefully Porsche will keep the Macan and Cayenne as their SUV range and anything new will be completely different. I hope the Cayman name continues to be a market leader for sports cars!
@@LifeInMotionuk Have you driven a TTS yet? I think the Audi you drove only had twin compared with quad exhausts on the TTS.
The reason I ask is in dynamic mode on my car the exhaust sounds uncannily like a 5 cylinder.
I’m not sure if that’s because of the quad exhausts, valves in the exhausts or something else Audi have done.
Here’s the vid I was telling you about: th-cam.com/video/G8yANp3iXpU/w-d-xo.html
I have the mk3 tts and its brilliant
Okay I got my Audi TT 45 TFSI Quattro (5.1 sec 0-60) this week, to go with my 718 Boxster (4.9 sec 0-60) both automatic, both from 2019. My thoughts are the 718 wins in every way, you accelerate in the Porsche you have a big grin on your face for the next half minute, with the TT its just 'oh Im going fast'. Porsche is nicer inside just wins. However, I really like how the TT feels its a lovely solid car, I like being able to see the engine in the audi, also I cant take the Porsche 'to the shops' in many areas where i live but the Audi would be fine., its a better daily driver. The answer does seem to be own both!
Thanks for the comment. Exactly what we needed, someone that owns them both. It’s clear the 718 is more of what we all want from a sports car, but how important is practicality to you…
It seems like both of these cars are due for a redesign. I love the TTS but I am curious if the tech package will be updated soon.
Indeed, although I know Audi are not planning to release a New ‘TT’ after just launching their ‘Final Edition’. I believe Porsche are already testing the new Boxster and Cayman, but it’s believed to be electric!
@@LifeInMotionuk We can keep our fingers crossed for an electric TT at least😄🤞🏻
Bought a TT recently and I'm surprised how luxurious and comfortable the ride is. However the steering feels a bit too disconnected for me, I got more feedback in my Opel Corsa...
i got tts just because of lots of snow in winter and its my only car atm. if snow is no problem or you got other car, cayman is no brainer. also insurance
I could imagine the TTS is awesome in the snow!
Why not compate the car at similar prices? Comoare the porshe with the TTRS.
If I had access to a TT-RS, I would have likely done just that. On the flip side, if you’re buying a brand new TT black edition with a specification similar to the TT in this video, you could easily get into a 718 Cayman…perhaps food for thought to many
Ive a porsche 718 boxster low miles garaged for special days, I want a audi TT for daily driving which i can be less precious over 🙂
Why do people not properly launch this car lol. 11:45. Didn’t even turn traction off, switch drive modes and hold gas and brake at the same time then release the brake. Such a waste! This car has launch control!! Use it!!!
The question about the sound between the 981 and 718 will be around as long as the two models exist… and the winner will always be the 981 - it’s just on a totally different level. Just that alone will give an ownership experience that cannot be rivalled each and every time its driven (particularly with the GTS and GT4 models).
However the 718 is, in every other way that can be scientifically measured, the better car. That will also give its own different but enjoyable ownership experience, albeit not as unique (IMO).
Thanks for that, Eddie. I do agree! IMO I like the sound of the 718 but how could it ever live up to the N/A 981! For me, the 718 is the one it go for in my situation, but if it was just a weekend car, perhaps it would be different.
Thanks for the comment!
DRIVEN BOTH - no contest Audi comfortable nippyish - porsche thats hardcore pure racing sports car or a daily driver
This is like comparing rabbits with milk 😂
TT is better value for money and maintenance cost is also better.
value for money wise, TT all day.
How much can I get the cayman 718 for?
A new car will star at roughly £52k - used 718’s can go from £30k’s through to £100k depending on the variant. The the car in this video with its age and mileage would cost around £50k
My own dilemma is either buying the Audi TT or the VW Golf GTD 🤔🤔
Good dilemma- golf is great, but the TT is surprisingly practical with the back seats down, and arguably is more dynamic to drive
The TT is brilliant .fair enough the rear seats are not great . But tne Porsche hasnt got any . The porsche has two shoe boxes for you to put your golf clubs onto. If you can . Ive owned a TT for years ive thought about the Porsche from time to time but instantly dumped that idea.
If you're looking for a TT go with the TT-RS; the one equipped with a foot pedal specifically.
The multi clutch of the base TT and TTS is the equivalent of someone periodically tapping on your shoulder and demanding $5k. The Mechatronic unit is expensive too. These also require dealership only tools so you aren't putting it on a trolley jack for an afternoon.
The compact design of the 4L Turbo engine also makes replacing one component a matter of taking out several which increases labor times therefore labor bills.
The TT-RS is a slightly larger engine and easier to work on and is opposite of what was written above.
Thanks for that! Very good to know if you’re going into a TT-
Only twice the price! There’s the person looking for the TT you could talk into a TTS maybe, but TTRS isn’t even the same league of car (hence the price) typically you aren’t going to cross shop a base TT and a TTRS.
@@juelz4516 Considering the multi clutch on the TT/TTS is $6200 to replace, the timing belt another $4000 and most other components require multiple branches into the service manual to get done one can easily justify the TT-RS at $10 to $15K more given it is chain driven, has no multi clutch and isn't as labor intensive to say replace a thermostat or a water pump.
Thermostats on all cars require removal of the airbox but the TT/TTS also require the intake duct, the alternator, radiator shroud, three times as many coolant hoses and a coolant pipe to all be removed just to get to the thermostat. The TT-RS only requires the removal of the airbox, a hose and one pipe.
The water pump requires one to get to the poly V belt on the TT-RS but on the TT/TTS it's driven by that timing belt which has a top and bottom cover/ about 12 pages of reading say to the TT-RS's 4 pages.
It's less a matter of savings and more one of delayed costs to own the vehicle due to the layered nature of the drive train along with the labor intensive design.
@@mightymulatto3000 In what country a timing belt costs 4000 dollars? Plus, it doesn't even have a timing belt. The 2.0 TFSI is chain.
All TT's are equipped with double clutch gearboxes, be it normal, TTD or RS. The RS just has a model that can cope with the extra torque.
@@Alexandru-T. My 2010 Audi TTS is belt driven. The shop guide lists the steps to get it off. It's also listed in the service schedule as:
Timing Belt - Replace. Check
condition of timing belt tensioning system, dampening pulleys, and idler pulleys and replace if necessary every 110,000 miles. TTS only.
Parts are about $500 total since the water pump is down there too behind the upper and lower timing belt cover. The $250/hr labor rate is what inflates the cost. Quoted as a 14 hour job.
When you compare anything is on the same price you seem to have failed here
Ill take the TTS or RS anyday over a Porsche and throw in a tune plus still have a shtz ton of money left over while I'm blowing the doors if the Porsche. 😂
Ain’t a fair comparison, if you get a GTS you should have got a RS instead of the stock one ….
Nice 👌🏽
Did use a TTS or TTRS! Not even a fair comparison!
I thought it was a TTrs until he said 2.0
TTRS would be a better comparison at 400hp
Dreadful unfair comparison ....Ya just another Porsche head really
TTS...😋😋
I dont understand why u compare those 2 cars? They are totally different, build quality, ride quality, engane, gearbox and at last price.
They are, and yet I considered both before buying the Cayman 👍🏻
You are wrong Nikola Petrovič those two cars belong info the same segment .
yes agreed strange thing to say, they are natural alternative options when looking for a fun little quality car with strong brand image
I’ve had 2 tt’s and 1 TTS. And now have a Cayman S. Cayman is faster and handles better (IMO). The TT’s are better in the snow, more room. I’ve even gotten 6 ft step ladder in side. They’re both great cars…depends on your needs.
Very useful insight, thanks Dan!
TT with Stage1 330-350 hp. Quattro 🦾.
Hard to beat, especially with the weather as it is now
Which one is more overpriced
Value for money, I think the TT is better priced- but depends on what’s important to you right?
No one is ever taking a TT over a Porsche - never
Maybe a TTS or RS
I sold my 530bhp Audi TT RS for a Manual Cayman 2.5 GTS - The Audi was the most boring car I have ever owned, and this was very hard for me to accept as I always dreamed of owning a MK 3 TT RS, but after 7 months of ownership I had to get rid
Very interesting! What made it boring for you? I’ve heard although quattro is brilliant, it can make the drive very predictable
@@LifeInMotionuk this may sound like a very big positive but it really isn’t, it’s too easy to drive fast! And you really don’t feel like you’re going that fast because of it! There is so much traction it makes for a boring drive, to feel like your pushing the car, you have to do silly silly speeds! And the understeer is horrendous! It feels like a very heavy car once you’re throwing it around corners! Also the parts are way more expensive vs the GTS, you don’t even want to know how much a front set of discs and pads set me back on the RS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ah so that does make complete sense! That’s one of my problems with electric cars…they’re gather speed so quickly it becomes a non-event! Shame the TT-RS parts are expensive, as I hoped they wouldn’t be ! It sounds like the move to the GTS was a good one- enjoy!
Most boring car you’ve ever owned!! This guys got jokes everyone!! 😂😂😂 Yeah that 0-60 in 3.5 seconds can be really BORING!!
@@juelz4516 actually my best time using draggy was 2.9 seconds to 60. The novelty of launching the car soon wares off mate. Buy one and let me know how you feel after 6 months
Cayman used 40k .. Audi 15k
You may have a point…
@@LifeInMotionuk and 718 2.0l ...50 to 60k here
@commantrosexetlos4700 I did a comparison of a TTS versus a base 2.0 l Cayman and you can find similar prices, but the Cayman would be either high mileage or older. I guess the benefit of the Cayman is they hold value better, and have now been announced as discontinued so potentially are a good place to put your money (the same could be said for the TT that is in the same situation)
@@LifeInMotionuk yeah they hold their price very good but i feel retarded to buy used a 2.0l 300hp for 60k..ttrs is under 40k..c63amg too is cheaper..f10 m5 and m6 are cheaper..f type 550hp is a bit cheaper..new supra with b58 engine is cheaper..so why to buy that 718? M3 and m4 s55 are 30 to 40k..new 340i g20 is 40k..718 is wayyyy overpriced
@commantrosexetlos4700 I’d say if you want a sports car, and you need badge appeal then the Cayman does well. More people are looking at a Cayman than an M4. F Type is a good shout although arguably no where near as good to drive. Depends on what’s important.
Both cars are grossly overrated. SMH
why audi tt vs porsche cayman gts? it should be audi ttrs vs cayman gts bro..but overall nice video
Believe me if I had access to one, it would have been