One of your best episodes yet. Flex and Owen finally realized that 99% of the squad is complete crap, while you got mandem like Rants and Saeed calling Zirkzee the next Bergkamp
@@SelvinMartin No, I usually agree with most of their views, but this is the first episode where I agree 200% with everything they said. Not a single point of contention
fans still don't get it, as long as the Glazers are the main owners it doesn't matter what manager or players come through the doors it won't change owt and the only man brilliant enough to counteract their infection was the GOAT Sir Alex.
Man United been ruining weekends for the last 11 years! I used to religiously watch match of the day when I got home from the game or just chilling at home and now I barely watch it anymore because we always lose! It’s not Man Utd anymore I don’t recognise it 😔
The silver lining is that the more managers we go through, the more exposed these players become. Rangnick said open heart surgery and it still has yet to be fully done. My only hope is that as ruthless INEOS are being with club staff, they are the same with the players that need to go.
The beauty of it now is that they can't sack Amorin so the players will have to go😂😂.. Many of them need to. I don't really care who goes for this club to find it's for.. Garnacho, hjoiland, Amad. Mainoo and the rest of the team can go.. I really don't care who is sold to fix this team..
LOL these fan channels gaslighted us when we said Mount was a terrible signing. "Oh he hasn't played enough to make a judgement", "he runs around", "pressing monster" 🤣You have to look at it overall, cost, availability, talent, age, system, potential etc. ETH has blood on his hands for that priority first signing last season smh
EtH wasn't head of recruitment at UInited. There's a whole department of recruitment 'experts'. If the club only signs players that the manager choses then that's a failure of the club, not the manager.
Mount hasn’t been good in almost 4 years and people still have hope he can turn it around. Rashford a season from 30 goals season and they were chanting racist abuse on him.
Come on UTD fans: -No preseason -Were already 13th with no style of play -Playing fullbacks at wingback positions -No actual signings for the manager -Already bad squad , we knew before -Minimal training opportunities in between games -Malacia been out for 2 years -Mount is never available -Shaw never available If Amorim can achieve the results he is rn under this circumstances then who knows what he'll cook with proper backing, proper signings and fan support
You all keep saying, "Rip it up and sell everybody." The question is, who will buy these bang-average players on humongous wages? Shipping them out will take years unless Inios is prepared to tear up their contracts and pay them money to leave. Whoever allowed ETH to spend another 200m last summer should be arrested. United holds the record for the longest and most expensive rebuild in football history: 11 years on, almost 2 billion spent, and it keeps getting worse. It's ridiculous!
Glad the penny's dropped with you Flex everything you said is spot on - no Europe next season - next summer's transfer window is crucial if they f**k that up we'll be screwed for years.
@5591-u9h mate. you ALREADY are. you have ~300m in losses that need to be balanced against PSR. you have next to nothing of value to sell. and players on contracts/wages so long/high that you won't even be able to give them away.
n what money r they going to use to fund that transfer window? they r increasing tickets n all dat .. we dont sell well either or hv players attractive enough to sell
We're gonna have games like this all seasons, as long as we generally outperform our opponents we shouldn't panic as fans. League placement isn't important as much as it hurts
Our club is in a sad state of affairs, we can't even have a new manager bounce. It rains in the conference room. We have several players who are not fit to lace my boots... Wouldn't be surprised if we are either bankrupt or relegated by 2030.. So, what to do? We just keep supporting our colours as always. The ultimate defeat is if fans stop supporting, then we really bocome the lauging stock.
We’re Underdog FC. Put in a performance when we’re not expected to win but struggle to beat teams when we’re favourite. Look at our home record over the past 18 months. Club confidence is on the floor, and rival teams smell the fear in our team…
United fans are the worst. Said it would take years to rebuild. Said to back the manager. Said it would get worse before it gets better. But then say crap like this at the first sign of adversity.
I believe our LWB and RWB need to be more attacking to make up for our lack of wingers. Rather I would call them RM and LM. I would personally try Amad and Garna at those positions with Bruno and Kobbie as central 10s
Nah Amad is too talented to put at RwB. He should be at R10. Idc what people say, we should put Antony at RwB, Amad at Ram or R10, Kobbie at Lam/L10 (because I don't see why people don't see it, but my guy is not a double pivot player) and Malacia or whoever at LwB. Bruno has to only be double pivot or nothing. He does not have the goods to carry out the 10 role whatsoever.
@mr-darkseid That's acc close to what I would think. I would say though back three of Maz, Yoro and De Ligt/Maguire. Amad as Ram and Antony RwB. And then we good
On TH: man can hold his head high. Delivered 2 trophies. He should’ve been allowed to Marshall out this season while INEOS secured Amorim for next season.
Every transfer window every fan channels will pump out videos saying buy this player & buy that player etc. they’ll be crap. No matter who we buy how much they cost, they’ll be crap
@@Miketotyetemp 💯. Same list as me other than id give Garnacho another shot. Bloke does have world class in him (his bicycle kick etc), so id give him 1 year to fix his work ethic and general footballing ability
@JimmyCeesAll garnacho has played over 100 first team matches for us and his game is exact the same as his debut. He ws promoted above his station by ETH he hasn't got the quality to be a starting winger in the prem. It's simple no one but ETH believed he had the quality, the same ETH that believed onana, martinez, hojland, anthony and omari forson were good enough. This is even more damning when you realise he believed amad and sancho wernt good enough to start in the prem.
@ still think garna hasn’t done enough to be allowed a bit of time under Amorim. Doesn’t he have better stats than Ronaldo after 100 games? If he doesn’t, it’s close. I don’t disagree that his game has not improved. It hasn’t. That’s why he’s got one year under Amorim, for me.
@@JimmyCeesAll stats are not the be all at end all stats from each decade are being raised as time goes on and defending has become weaker via rule changes and football culture changing. The comparisons to ronaldo are ridiculous ronaldo never has issues with his technical fundamentals; passing first touch dribbling etc. Garnacho runs the ball of the pitch at least once a match under no pressure. Last season He started over 30 consecutive league games last season scoring 7 goals over 4 matches doing nothing in the other 36 leauge games.... he shot conversion rate is abysmal and you think hes made improvements?
I think we need to stop throwing our toys out of the pram. A lot of the players aint even been here a year. Some just over two. Mainoo just came back from injury , but it seems tired and leggy, same as malacia. Yesterday was on amorim.
@erikcisneros8614 I'd say drop antony in after malacia. There's a lack balance when dalot is over there, so even when the balls are being switched to that dalot either puts in an uncontrolled left for cross or needs to check back on his right, personally I'd try sell rashford in January we can get atleast 30 million and try find a left footed LB , which I think is an issue but we have players that can do a job.
@@erikcisneros8614 I think we as fans have got so used to finding someone to blame that the outlook is get rid, rather than adapt. I've seen this team win 7 on the bounce last season, I've seen win an FA cup. Our players can't be that bad
When i saw all the pre game hopefulness in the united fanbase i just thought. Oh dear, this isnt gonna end well. Bournemouth has literally been a top 4 side in the prem this year, judging by expected points. They should be even higher. They are brilliant and have had a year more than amorim to implement a system. I know "its just little ol bournemouth", but dont get it twisted. Bounemouth are incredible.
Problem is as a team that doesn’t get into top 4 in PL and plays Europa every other year, we try to go for “world class players” instead of hungry upcoming players. The players we bring in, are there for the money and for the limelight and as soon as they have the multi million dollar contract they start to care less.
@ well buy a striker, because we don’t actually have one lol. Rashford is out of the picture ands was never a 9. We saw Zirkzee and Hojlund in action and they’re not it.
@ he can from the bench, he still has time to progress under Amorim. But the problem with United is having young players alongside average players as a starting 11.
Most of us knew keeping eth wud mean this season is a right off, but what we cud have done is prepared for next season, but now lbh Ruben's guna have a harder time turning this around then he wud have coming in the summer where he would have had more time to prepare, since the start of the season I thought ruud wud stay until the end of the season and then in the summer we rebuild but they have ruined it.
we’ve become xG merchants.. unlucky FC .. this will continue into next season. we act as if other teams standstill while we “improve”. with no europe the job is even harder n Ineos don’t look like taking their figure out for a proper rebuild. if they mean biz this has to be a Chelsea like scalping! this time next year Amorim will be the one fans turn on! soon as the window closes fans turn on the manager no matter context or circumstance
Apparently word is Garnacho is 50% out the door. Heard it on Adams stream last night. Hes causing issues behind the scenes since that spurs game. We got a bunch of misfits who arnt good enough but think they are. Talk about captains aswell we have a poor captain who isnt captain material and cant take control of a game. We have so many crap players man. This will continue for years to come the banter era wont end for another decade
Said ages ago, these clubs will improve their systems from 2seasons ago. They know how to play their system i.e. Brighton, ten hag didn't have a system 2 seasons ago. We are playing catch-up.
Both casmerio and ugarte should start together. Push maino up with Bruno. Amad on the right. Malacia on the left. Every time we start Malacia then proceed to take him off at half time we lose. I would try to keep him on until the 55-60 min then take him off. Then when we need to make subs we can bring on others as needed. The midfield need to be controlled.
You lot are MUCH WORSE than Spurs. At least they occasionally put in good performances and batter the odd team. You guys have played really well ONCE in 2 or 3 years!!!!!!
Gotta laugh. We beat City, and things look rosy. Club's on the right track, etc. We lose (badly) and suddenly everything from the Tea Lady to the press conference room is shit. The truth is always somewhere in the middle, and I just hope the football hierarchy doesn't react like fans, and instead look at things less emotionally. There are significant problems at the club. Rangnick told us ages ago that open heart surgery was needed. A full clear-out. That wasn't done; instead, we trusted a man with questionable talent ID to add turds on top of turds, and see where we are. As @Muppetiers said, the good thing is we have a clear system and style of play. That will expose for all the world to see what players can and can't hack it. It's no longer a question of the head coach.
Surely can't only be the players. You had a short bounce with RvN as interim. Amorim should've just continued that path for the first season. He's not going to rebuild anything in January and my bet is he wont even make a single change. He rotates the squad all the time and his subs are questionable. If he was flawless in his mangagement, fine, defend him all you want. But fact is both managers before him got more out of this squad. And that is his job right? Get the best out of the current squad because things aren't going to change. My bet is relegation
How do anybody listen to these guys? Everybody is profiting off the club and its misery. Then Amorium should not have come. How can you excuse the mess that is in front of you. If I were a player there is no way I would want to be a part of this mess.
Guess what, i have said it since day one that INEOS will fail United on the pitch (they are already failing the club off the pitch). We were blinded by ETH authoritarian debut (getting rid of ronaldo and sancho), but he set us back 3 to 4 years with no playing structure and a 600 millions waste on under par players in two and half year. INEOS will never put that a structure for the massive rebuilt needed at United. Failing to qualify 2 to 3 years in row for the champions league will be so detrimental ( look how long it took Arsenal to get back in it post Arsene Wenger). The picture is bleek, look how more depressed by the week our manager is becoming. The positivity is going away looking at the squad.
Its about the mentality. You give them more money, they lose their focus. What they need is to buy a squad of 25 grounded players, who dont take money to their head
I honestly hope we sell a lot of our players, but I'm not blaming them for yesterday. Amorim got it wrong. dalot shouldn't have started, Amad should've been rwb, and urgate should've been taken off casemiro. Kobbie should've been taken for Ericsson, and bruno moved to the 8 with cas holding. Even could've had to and amad playing behind the striker hoijlund or zirksee. antony as lwb on second half to bring some balance.
Chelsea and everton played in march 2023 and no player that played in the game yersterday played in that game except enzo Fernandez. Manutd need the same clearout.
Did a utd fan superchatted saying Pep signed 20 players in 18 months when he took over City? Thats a big lie..Pep only signed 12 senior players in 2 seasons
Amad, Ugarte, de Ligt, Mazza with Mainoo and Yoro are all good players who have the quality over the others and have less bad games. Mainoo needs to be in the 10 with bruno sold or benched as a back up for MF or 10 at the most. Zirkzee and Rasmus give them until end of season to see if they can be good enough back ups to an accomplished striker. Take offers, Sell and replace absolutely EVERYONE else, starting from January, they are either proven as not good enough, too old with high wages, can’t stay fit and/or don’t have the right mentality.
Once we realise we're crap we can focus on improving, thing is ineos need to actually do what's needed, stop renewing contracts of proven poor players, if thry renew any shit players contract I'm done I cba, there's only so much negligence this club can endure
The best thing to happen is we stay the hell out of Europe this season this manager needs time on the training ground day in day out getting into the Europa league will be a disaster we need 1 game a week to get this manager on the training ground
Let’s face it! This is the standard of United! The players & club are laughing at united! They’re laughing all the way to the bank on the fans money! Nothing will change unless united fans stop going to games / buying merch / unfollowing all united related stuff on social (except for this channel) etc!
In terms of quality, Antony and Zirkzee to me appear to be the least fit to wear the shirt. The rest are good enough to work with. Look at Bournemouth, I refuse to believe any of their squad are considerably better than our players. It's a collective thing I believe.
Maybe the toxicity of our fan base and the size of the fan base destroys the players. They’re human and they see what the fans are saying and media pundits - this can create more negativity and carelessness from the players.
We are like spurs all over again. We win some and we lose most. Play the same style of play their fans want Ange GONE. It will be instead saying the players are SHIT now when u still could win. Couple of game with a PLAN B and get us to CHAMPIONS LEAGUE then use pre-season to START PLAN A fresh. The fact that u guys are only talking about fans and players is a disgrace to me. THE MANAGER IS AT FAULT we lost to spurs in a Carabao cup and in game management didn’t work with Bournemouth.
React much. Reminds of that saeed tv guy. I understand you lot needs to create a content, but at least be fair. This is a new process that will take time to move on these players
This is mind numbing stuff from another website claiming to care about the club. So what has changed? With the inconsistency in ownership and management of the club how is any player going to prosper? They just fired a manager after giving him a new contract. That happened under the new leadership and yet you want to blame the players. If they just run harder and care about the shirt and it mind numbing stuff. This new manager with his double speak and inconsistency in his strategy and lineups. This club is rotten to its core and it began with the sale of the club to the Glazers. The club had a chance to reset but pivoted and sole interest to this latest group. No decent player is coming to United without untold wages because of all the nonsense going on at and around the club. The same junk these guys are spouting today could have been said 2 years ago or 10 years ago. The only constant in this mess is the leadership and management of this club. This is on the manager and he accepted the job knowing the state the club was in so stop making excuses for him. He is being paid handsomely to mess about for weeks now. It is the worst run club in the world bar none.
Bournemouth EMBARRASS Amorim system..like the Spurs did...like Forest did...we were down in Poland! Our players are certainly much better than Bournemouths, Forests and that team in Poland
This is the worst episode I have seen for you guys. When I came out and said THE PLAYERS ARE THE PROBLEM u Owen keep on misreading what I wrote and saying things I’m not saying. I got cussed out by the chat and Kg for saying it. Ten hag deserve his respect for winning with these same bozo players u all now want sold. Again u guys said u feel sorry for the manager? No no no he has to win games “ The bucks comes down to the manager right”. Nobody is pressuring him to keep on playing the same style and losing games. If plan A is NOT WORKING, come up with a plan B for now and win games, get to pre-season then persist with your style of play.
600 m wasted on absolute dross players …. Not so simple just say get rid of them …. Football is a business and utd stuck with shite no one wants to buy … also skint so dont expect big buys … no CL , no money , no talent
@waynereid9471 looking at his performances over the last 3 seasons as our main player most minutes most matches highest usage rate have been the worse years at the club. Yes he should be dropped. Looking at just our last two games so many times we get into promising positions and he just let's us down.
I think this is going to be a longer rebuild than people are expecting. Financially we are in trouble, most of our squad is worth far less than we paid, we won't be attracting or affording the best talent without Europe. And we don't even know if Ratcliffe will have the patience to stick with Amorim.
@hustlinmagic no, financially you are FUCKED. -300m that has to be balanced against PSR. nothing of value to sell. players on contract/wages that you won't be able to even give away. sponsor money will be slashed even further because of no europe. we are talking 5-10 years (of doing things right)
I said it last year that this club deserves all the shit that comes their way.. They deserve it for getting rid of Greenwood and Sancho and Pogba.. But these fools wanted to keep and back Antony and Garnacho and Bruno.. Good footballers vs dead ballers. Not to mention keeping the Glazers and now Ineos..
You lot are trash. Amad mainoo ugarte de ligt yoro are your best players. Everyone else is horrible. Utd fans need to realise your not anywhere near the top your miles off.
I have no idea what kind of manager Amorim will turn out to be, but I am 100% confident that 99% of this squad should be cleaning toilets, flipping burgers, and bagging groceries at Tesco's
@@1991AdamPeck 100 correct, this fool doesn't realise fergie was 1 game from losing his job, and mark robins scored against forest in the fa.cup and we went on too win it.
you lot have NO idea what is coming. you think this is near the bottom? nah. it is about to get SO much worse. you are ~300m in the hole against FSR/PSR (that need to be balanced unless you want to face transfer bans) you have VERY little of value to sell. you have players who are miles away from being 'good enough' on contract/wages that are so absurd that you won't even be able to give these players away. oh and on top of all this, if you miss CL next season (very likely) the sponsor money will be slashed even further. ruben 'interim' is a sitting duck, and he'll get the bullet next season when top 4 is looking iffy.
One of your best episodes yet. Flex and Owen finally realized that 99% of the squad is complete crap, while you got mandem like Rants and Saeed calling Zirkzee the next Bergkamp
Respect Zirkamp Zerbatov Z9 brother
😂😂😂😂😂
Best episode because everyone knows Utd are shit 😅 typical Utd fan 😊
It’s good because they agree with you for this brief moment.
But when they don’t? Its crap?
@@SelvinMartin No, I usually agree with most of their views, but this is the first episode where I agree 200% with everything they said. Not a single point of contention
Kobbie isn't a Prem level player. you can't play in the Prem if you can't run. he's slow, slow, slow with no endurance
fans still don't get it, as long as the Glazers are the main owners it doesn't matter what manager or players come through the doors it won't change owt and the only man brilliant enough to counteract their infection was the GOAT Sir Alex.
I said two years ago we had the least athletic, lowest football IQ team in the Prem. everyone else kept pointing to the coach.
Problem is 80% of the team was brought in by him
Ten hag was still at fault though... There were no results and he had spend money on shit players
Man United been ruining weekends for the last 11 years! I used to religiously watch match of the day when I got home from the game or just chilling at home and now I barely watch it anymore because we always lose! It’s not Man Utd anymore I don’t recognise it 😔
I’ve been watching 30 years mate and I still try to watch out matches even if we lose that’s the whole point of being a fan of a football club
Firmino was just a bench player until klopp came and rotated him in. Now he’s a Liverpool legend
The silver lining is that the more managers we go through, the more exposed these players become. Rangnick said open heart surgery and it still has yet to be fully done. My only hope is that as ruthless INEOS are being with club staff, they are the same with the players that need to go.
The beauty of it now is that they can't sack Amorin so the players will have to go😂😂.. Many of them need to. I don't really care who goes for this club to find it's for.. Garnacho, hjoiland, Amad. Mainoo and the rest of the team can go.. I really don't care who is sold to fix this team..
@@tebohsami won’t bet on that mate .. u only need to look at Nice to see the blue print
I heard that Flex is now a Spurs fan 😆
LOL these fan channels gaslighted us when we said Mount was a terrible signing. "Oh he hasn't played enough to make a judgement", "he runs around", "pressing monster" 🤣You have to look at it overall, cost, availability, talent, age, system, potential etc. ETH has blood on his hands for that priority first signing last season smh
LOL you’re a grown ass man point scoring in TH-cam comments 🤣
Ten hag has took us back a decade!
@@INoley19 I didn't expect a childish ad hominem low IQ response. I was wrong lol. Bye.
EtH wasn't head of recruitment at UInited. There's a whole department of recruitment 'experts'. If the club only signs players that the manager choses then that's a failure of the club, not the manager.
Mount hasn’t been good in almost 4 years and people still have hope he can turn it around. Rashford a season from 30 goals season and they were chanting racist abuse on him.
Come on UTD fans:
-No preseason
-Were already 13th with no style of play
-Playing fullbacks at wingback positions
-No actual signings for the manager
-Already bad squad , we knew before
-Minimal training opportunities in between games
-Malacia been out for 2 years
-Mount is never available
-Shaw never available
If Amorim can achieve the results he is rn under this circumstances then who knows what he'll cook with proper backing, proper signings and fan support
Perspective at last!
You all keep saying, "Rip it up and sell everybody." The question is, who will buy these bang-average players on humongous wages?
Shipping them out will take years unless Inios is prepared to tear up their contracts and pay them money to leave. Whoever allowed ETH to spend another 200m last summer should be arrested.
United holds the record for the longest and most expensive rebuild in football history: 11 years on, almost 2 billion spent, and it keeps getting worse. It's ridiculous!
It's a good thing we didn't get a manager bounce because Amorim's system has exposed this players and we need a reset of them starting January
You didn’t get a manager bounce with eth , look at it this way , eth far out qualifies Amorim
Original take, I haven't heard that 59 times since Amorim joined 😂
Glad the penny's dropped with you Flex everything you said is spot on - no Europe next season - next summer's transfer window is crucial if they f**k that up we'll be screwed for years.
@5591-u9h mate. you ALREADY are. you have ~300m in losses that need to be balanced against PSR. you have next to nothing of value to sell. and players on contracts/wages so long/high that you won't even be able to give them away.
n what money r they going to use to fund that transfer window? they r increasing tickets n all dat .. we dont sell well either or hv players attractive enough to sell
If Bournemouth go champions league with that stadium, I'm gonna laugh.😅😅😅
We're gonna have games like this all seasons, as long as we generally outperform our opponents we shouldn't panic as fans. League placement isn't important as much as it hurts
Hired a manager who plays 5 at the back and can't defend 🤬🤬
Why is Rashford in the thumbnail?
I believe this is one of them channels where people talk sense rather than doing all sorts of drama to get more likes & views. Big up Flex & team.
Our club is in a sad state of affairs, we can't even have a new manager bounce. It rains in the conference room. We have several players who are not fit to lace my boots... Wouldn't be surprised if we are either bankrupt or relegated by 2030.. So, what to do? We just keep supporting our colours as always. The ultimate defeat is if fans stop supporting, then we really bocome the lauging stock.
We’re Underdog FC. Put in a performance when we’re not expected to win but struggle to beat teams when we’re favourite. Look at our home record over the past 18 months. Club confidence is on the floor, and rival teams smell the fear in our team…
We should have kept RVN till the end of the season
United fans are the worst. Said it would take years to rebuild. Said to back the manager. Said it would get worse before it gets better. But then say crap like this at the first sign of adversity.
Nonsense fans like you are the problem why we can’t get a proper rebuild a few losses and your calling for ruud to stay 🤦🏽♂️
@@Evonutd i don’t know if they are actually that stupid or have no guts. Either way, fans like him are a massive problem.
Pogba said Man Utd fans don’t understand football and every time I go on X I see why he said that
I believe our LWB and RWB need to be more attacking to make up for our lack of wingers. Rather I would call them RM and LM. I would personally try Amad and Garna at those positions with Bruno and Kobbie as central 10s
XI: Onana, Mazraoui, De Ligt, Martinez, Amad, Ugarte, Casemiro, Garnacho, Bruno, Kobbie, Zirksee
Ideally we should go into the market for another LM and a 10
Nah Amad is too talented to put at RwB. He should be at R10.
Idc what people say, we should put Antony at RwB, Amad at Ram or R10, Kobbie at Lam/L10 (because I don't see why people don't see it, but my guy is not a double pivot player) and Malacia or whoever at LwB.
Bruno has to only be double pivot or nothing. He does not have the goods to carry out the 10 role whatsoever.
@mr-darkseid That's acc close to what I would think. I would say though back three of Maz, Yoro and De Ligt/Maguire.
Amad as Ram and Antony RwB.
And then we good
@@mr-darkseid YOU HAVE NO MONEY. -300m that need to be balanced against PSR.
On TH: man can hold his head high. Delivered 2 trophies. He should’ve been allowed to Marshall out this season while INEOS secured Amorim for next season.
And wasted 700 million to achieve 8th place.
Every transfer window every fan channels will pump out videos saying buy this player & buy that player etc. they’ll be crap. No matter who we buy how much they cost, they’ll be crap
i would keep kobe, amad, ugarte, yoro, mazraoui, de ligt and maybe hojlund. the rest will 100% never get us where we need to be...
@@Miketotyetemp 💯. Same list as me other than id give Garnacho another shot. Bloke does have world class in him (his bicycle kick etc), so id give him 1 year to fix his work ethic and general footballing ability
@@Miketotyetemp hojland 😅
@JimmyCeesAll garnacho has played over 100 first team matches for us and his game is exact the same as his debut. He ws promoted above his station by ETH he hasn't got the quality to be a starting winger in the prem. It's simple no one but ETH believed he had the quality, the same ETH that believed onana, martinez, hojland, anthony and omari forson were good enough. This is even more damning when you realise he believed amad and sancho wernt good enough to start in the prem.
@ still think garna hasn’t done enough to be allowed a bit of time under Amorim. Doesn’t he have better stats than Ronaldo after 100 games? If he doesn’t, it’s close.
I don’t disagree that his game has not improved. It hasn’t. That’s why he’s got one year under Amorim, for me.
@@JimmyCeesAll stats are not the be all at end all stats from each decade are being raised as time goes on and defending has become weaker via rule changes and football culture changing. The comparisons to ronaldo are ridiculous ronaldo never has issues with his technical fundamentals; passing first touch dribbling etc. Garnacho runs the ball of the pitch at least once a match under no pressure. Last season He started over 30 consecutive league games last season scoring 7 goals over 4 matches doing nothing in the other 36 leauge games.... he shot conversion rate is abysmal and you think hes made improvements?
I think we need to stop throwing our toys out of the pram. A lot of the players aint even been here a year. Some just over two. Mainoo just came back from injury , but it seems tired and leggy, same as malacia. Yesterday was on amorim.
@@Unitedsgreatest who is he supposed to play for left back we have no other choice
@@erikcisneros8614play Antony or Martinez.
@erikcisneros8614 I'd say drop antony in after malacia. There's a lack balance when dalot is over there, so even when the balls are being switched to that dalot either puts in an uncontrolled left for cross or needs to check back on his right, personally I'd try sell rashford in January we can get atleast 30 million and try find a left footed LB , which I think is an issue but we have players that can do a job.
@@erikcisneros8614 I think we as fans have got so used to finding someone to blame that the outlook is get rid, rather than adapt. I've seen this team win 7 on the bounce last season, I've seen win an FA cup. Our players can't be that bad
When i saw all the pre game hopefulness in the united fanbase i just thought. Oh dear, this isnt gonna end well. Bournemouth has literally been a top 4 side in the prem this year, judging by expected points. They should be even higher. They are brilliant and have had a year more than amorim to implement a system. I know "its just little ol bournemouth", but dont get it twisted. Bounemouth are incredible.
Problem is as a team that doesn’t get into top 4 in PL and plays Europa every other year, we try to go for “world class players” instead of hungry upcoming players. The players we bring in, are there for the money and for the limelight and as soon as they have the multi million dollar contract they start to care less.
Amad, Mainoo, Ugarte, Mazraoui, De Ligt and Hojlund are the only ones we can kinda keep. De ligt and Hojlund are bench players not starters.
And start who as striker ? lol
@ well buy a striker, because we don’t actually have one lol. Rashford is out of the picture ands was never a 9. We saw Zirkzee and Hojlund in action and they’re not it.
Take Mainoo out
@ he can from the bench, he still has time to progress under Amorim. But the problem with United is having young players alongside average players as a starting 11.
Most of us knew keeping eth wud mean this season is a right off, but what we cud have done is prepared for next season, but now lbh Ruben's guna have a harder time turning this around then he wud have coming in the summer where he would have had more time to prepare, since the start of the season I thought ruud wud stay until the end of the season and then in the summer we rebuild but they have ruined it.
Hojlund, Mainoo, Diallo, Ugarte, Yoro, Mazraoui is my list. Everyone else can go for a decent fee
we’ve become xG merchants.. unlucky FC .. this will continue into next season. we act as if other teams standstill while we “improve”. with no europe the job is even harder n Ineos don’t look like taking their figure out for a proper rebuild. if they mean biz this has to be a Chelsea like scalping! this time next year Amorim will be the one fans turn on! soon as the window closes fans turn on the manager no matter context or circumstance
Apparently word is Garnacho is 50% out the door. Heard it on Adams stream last night. Hes causing issues behind the scenes since that spurs game. We got a bunch of misfits who arnt good enough but think they are. Talk about captains aswell we have a poor captain who isnt captain material and cant take control of a game. We have so many crap players man. This will continue for years to come the banter era wont end for another decade
Why aren’t people willing to wait for a 20 year old to improve their finishing/end product?
Said ages ago, these clubs will improve their systems from 2seasons ago. They know how to play their system i.e. Brighton, ten hag didn't have a system 2 seasons ago. We are playing catch-up.
Both casmerio and ugarte should start together. Push maino up with Bruno. Amad on the right. Malacia on the left. Every time we start Malacia then proceed to take him off at half time we lose. I would try to keep him on until the 55-60 min then take him off. Then when we need to make subs we can bring on others as needed. The midfield need to be controlled.
You lot are MUCH WORSE than Spurs.
At least they occasionally put in good performances and batter the odd team.
You guys have played really well ONCE in 2 or 3 years!!!!!!
Personally, I don't even think it's embarrassing. I'm used to this
Amorim is getting old 😂
Rip it up is back 😂
Gotta laugh.
We beat City, and things look rosy. Club's on the right track, etc.
We lose (badly) and suddenly everything from the Tea Lady to the press conference room is shit.
The truth is always somewhere in the middle, and I just hope the football hierarchy doesn't react like fans, and instead look at things less emotionally. There are significant problems at the club. Rangnick told us ages ago that open heart surgery was needed. A full clear-out. That wasn't done; instead, we trusted a man with questionable talent ID to add turds on top of turds, and see where we are. As @Muppetiers said, the good thing is we have a clear system and style of play. That will expose for all the world to see what players can and can't hack it. It's no longer a question of the head coach.
lol Ryan triggered Flex in 48:00 😂
Surely can't only be the players. You had a short bounce with RvN as interim. Amorim should've just continued that path for the first season. He's not going to rebuild anything in January and my bet is he wont even make a single change. He rotates the squad all the time and his subs are questionable. If he was flawless in his mangagement, fine, defend him all you want. But fact is both managers before him got more out of this squad. And that is his job right? Get the best out of the current squad because things aren't going to change. My bet is relegation
How do anybody listen to these guys? Everybody is profiting off the club and its misery. Then Amorium should not have come. How can you excuse the mess that is in front of you. If I were a player there is no way I would want to be a part of this mess.
The next winnable game for us is against Southampton
You have arived at the fact that you guys over hyped the players Now all you have to do is realise that you have over hyped the manager, again
Chido Obi
Biancheri
Ibragimov
Amad
Ugarte
Mazraoui
Amass
Yoro
De Ligt
Kukonyi
Onana
How many times can you “rip it up” before you are left with nothing at all??
This is a poor squad of players.
Amorim prefers fast players who move the ball quickly so how many in this squad can do that?
Yet you still came.for arsenal on DR 🤦♂️
15th next week,you can forget it we ain’t winning against wolves
Guess what, i have said it since day one that INEOS will fail United on the pitch (they are already failing the club off the pitch). We were blinded by ETH authoritarian debut (getting rid of ronaldo and sancho), but he set us back 3 to 4 years with no playing structure and a 600 millions waste on under par players in two and half year. INEOS will never put that a structure for the massive rebuilt needed at United. Failing to qualify 2 to 3 years in row for the champions league will be so detrimental ( look how long it took Arsenal to get back in it post Arsene Wenger). The picture is bleek, look how more depressed by the week our manager is becoming. The positivity is going away looking at the squad.
How are all of our players out of form at the same time? What are they doing on the training pitch
After Rashford, the 1st player to get rid of is OH-NAH-NAH!!
I'd keep rasmus, garnacho, mainoo ugarte, amad because they are all young. Then mazroui and de ligt other than that they can all go for me
Its about the mentality. You give them more money, they lose their focus. What they need is to buy a squad of 25 grounded players, who dont take money to their head
What reason any players join United if it isnt for the money? And that is the only thing United can offer rn
I honestly hope we sell a lot of our players, but I'm not blaming them for yesterday. Amorim got it wrong. dalot shouldn't have started, Amad should've been rwb, and urgate should've been taken off casemiro. Kobbie should've been taken for Ericsson, and bruno moved to the 8 with cas holding. Even could've had to and amad playing behind the striker hoijlund or zirksee. antony as lwb on second half to bring some balance.
Chelsea and everton played in march 2023 and no player that played in the game yersterday played in that game except enzo Fernandez. Manutd need the same clearout.
you can't. rules have changed since then. PSR is stricter than ever. you have -300m that need to be balanced against PSR good luck.
He needs to stop rotating and just play his best team now
Did a utd fan superchatted saying Pep signed 20 players in 18 months when he took over City? Thats a big lie..Pep only signed 12 senior players in 2 seasons
Amad, Ugarte, de Ligt, Mazza with Mainoo and Yoro are all good players who have the quality over the others and have less bad games. Mainoo needs to be in the 10 with bruno sold or benched as a back up for MF or 10 at the most.
Zirkzee and Rasmus give them until end of season to see if they can be good enough back ups to an accomplished striker.
Take offers, Sell and replace absolutely EVERYONE else, starting from January, they are either proven as not good enough, too old with high wages, can’t stay fit and/or don’t have the right mentality.
Play Amad as 10, Mainoo is nowhere near as creative as him. Honestly, Mainoo should be a bench player for now
Mainoo is to slow in this system.. it's surprised me tbh
At least you win trophies and have an owner determined to win. Spurs its just crap
Once we realise we're crap we can focus on improving, thing is ineos need to actually do what's needed, stop renewing contracts of proven poor players, if thry renew any shit players contract I'm done I cba, there's only so much negligence this club can endure
Ten hag left 13th we still on 13th 😂
The best thing to happen is we stay the hell out of Europe this season this manager needs time on the training ground day in day out getting into the Europa league will be a disaster we need 1 game a week to get this manager on the training ground
Let’s face it! This is the standard of United! The players & club are laughing at united! They’re laughing all the way to the bank on the fans money! Nothing will change unless united fans stop going to games / buying merch / unfollowing all united related stuff on social (except for this channel) etc!
It hasnt eveb been a season yet 😂😂😂
In terms of quality, Antony and Zirkzee to me appear to be the least fit to wear the shirt. The rest are good enough to work with. Look at Bournemouth, I refuse to believe any of their squad are considerably better than our players. It's a collective thing I believe.
the bournemouth team were better 3 0 nil better ..........united over rated.....bad player signings live with it
Maybe the toxicity of our fan base and the size of the fan base destroys the players. They’re human and they see what the fans are saying and media pundits - this can create more negativity and carelessness from the players.
@@Knowmad1010 thats why they get paid the ridiculous amount of money.
Amad, Yoro, Ugarte and Mainoo stays. The rest just go.
DEAD 😂 man like SQUIRTZEEEEEE 💀🔥
Martinez probably take corners better than bruno
Not even mad. This club wont be ruining my days😂🤣😂 love United but these dudes are not good for my heart. Lol
We are like spurs all over again. We win some and we lose most. Play the same style of play their fans want Ange GONE. It will be instead saying the players are SHIT now when u still could win. Couple of game with a PLAN B and get us to CHAMPIONS LEAGUE then use pre-season to START PLAN A fresh. The fact that u guys are only talking about fans and players is a disgrace to me. THE MANAGER IS AT FAULT we lost to spurs in a Carabao cup and in game management didn’t work with Bournemouth.
Rashford malacia shaw eriksen zirkzee Antony casemiro need to go
the season already written off….only hope europa league😅
Playing a system that suits no one other than Maguire and dropping your best player is suicide.
I like Amorim but he’s done already
React much. Reminds of that saeed tv guy.
I understand you lot needs to create a content, but at least be fair. This is a new process that will take time to move on these players
United's academy isn't that good. Players should mucking in on loan deals
Sorry by January I think will be in relegation battle
Bruno cannot be a captain! He moans and not lead!
Bruno can't get the cornes I'm so fed up with Bruno he is making me hate the football
Please Bruno leave mate you are trash
This is mind numbing stuff from another website claiming to care about the club. So what has changed? With the inconsistency in ownership and management of the club how is any player going to prosper? They just fired a manager after giving him a new contract. That happened under the new leadership and yet you want to blame the players. If they just run harder and care about the shirt and it mind numbing stuff. This new manager with his double speak and inconsistency in his strategy and lineups. This club is rotten to its core and it began with the sale of the club to the Glazers. The club had a chance to reset but pivoted and sole interest to this latest group. No decent player is coming to United without untold wages because of all the nonsense going on at and around the club. The same junk these guys are spouting today could have been said 2 years ago or 10 years ago. The only constant in this mess is the leadership and management of this club. This is on the manager and he accepted the job knowing the state the club was in so stop making excuses for him. He is being paid handsomely to mess about for weeks now. It is the worst run club in the world bar none.
Qatar aren't buying you.
Bournemouth EMBARRASS Amorim system..like the Spurs did...like Forest did...we were down in Poland! Our players are certainly much better than Bournemouths, Forests and that team in Poland
Forest, Bournemouth both in top 6 but united are better? Please the table don't lie.
@@danielphillipson5453 Are you saying that they are both better than outside of to6City?! you are not ! Great coaching job by those 2 managers
This is the worst episode I have seen for you guys. When I came out and said THE PLAYERS ARE THE PROBLEM u Owen keep on misreading what I wrote and saying things I’m not saying. I got cussed out by the chat and Kg for saying it. Ten hag deserve his respect for winning with these same bozo players u all now want sold. Again u guys said u feel sorry for the manager? No no no he has to win games “ The bucks comes down to the manager right”. Nobody is pressuring him to keep on playing the same style and losing games. If plan A is NOT WORKING, come up with a plan B for now and win games, get to pre-season then persist with your style of play.
600 m wasted on absolute dross players …. Not so simple just say get rid of them …. Football is a business and utd stuck with shite no one wants to buy … also skint so dont expect big buys … no CL , no money , no talent
Amorim don't want to make the big decisions. Bruno in the 8 don't win his duels. In the 10 too careless and indecisive. BENCH HIM
So Bruno’s fault? Maybe he should be dropped from the squad as well 😊
@waynereid9471 looking at his performances over the last 3 seasons as our main player most minutes most matches highest usage rate have been the worse years at the club. Yes he should be dropped. Looking at just our last two games so many times we get into promising positions and he just let's us down.
Bruno has been poor this season but whenever he's on the bench we have absolutely no creativity going forward. he needs to play
@@suba7320 false narrative just dig into the numbers to see wher your saying instead true
@@mm2801 I watch the games, I have eyes
I think this is going to be a longer rebuild than people are expecting. Financially we are in trouble, most of our squad is worth far less than we paid, we won't be attracting or affording the best talent without Europe. And we don't even know if Ratcliffe will have the patience to stick with Amorim.
@hustlinmagic no, financially you are FUCKED. -300m that has to be balanced against PSR. nothing of value to sell. players on contract/wages that you won't be able to even give away. sponsor money will be slashed even further because of no europe. we are talking 5-10 years (of doing things right)
I said it last year that this club deserves all the shit that comes their way.. They deserve it for getting rid of Greenwood and Sancho and Pogba.. But these fools wanted to keep and back Antony and Garnacho and Bruno.. Good footballers vs dead ballers. Not to mention keeping the Glazers and now Ineos..
Greenwood got rid of himself for abusing a woman so stop the nonsense
Isn’t terrible form good for these types of channels ?
You lot are trash. Amad mainoo ugarte de ligt yoro are your best players. Everyone else is horrible.
Utd fans need to realise your not anywhere near the top your miles off.
Amorim ain`t it chief
stop blaming the players, when the manager isn`t at the level that United needs
I have no idea what kind of manager Amorim will turn out to be, but I am 100% confident that 99% of this squad should be cleaning toilets, flipping burgers, and bagging groceries at Tesco's
What are you talking about you must be a troll, prime fergie couldn’t get anything out of this bunch of useless poor excuse for football players!
The orginal comment is obviously trolling but fergie most definitely wouldnt be starting bruno fernandes @1991AdamPeck
@@1991AdamPeck 100 correct, this fool doesn't realise fergie was 1 game from losing his job, and mark robins scored against forest in the fa.cup and we went on too win it.
you lot have NO idea what is coming. you think this is near the bottom? nah. it is about to get SO much worse. you are ~300m in the hole against FSR/PSR (that need to be balanced unless you want to face transfer bans) you have VERY little of value to sell. you have players who are miles away from being 'good enough' on contract/wages that are so absurd that you won't even be able to give these players away. oh and on top of all this, if you miss CL next season (very likely) the sponsor money will be slashed even further.
ruben 'interim' is a sitting duck, and he'll get the bullet next season when top 4 is looking iffy.