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For real though, I've watched that movie twice and I still don't get what's going on. I feel like a frickin idiot. And I felt like I understood The Tree of Life and Tenet and other complicated, open for interpretation films. But Tinker Tailor is the most confusing film I've ever seen. And I believe you that it adds up very clearly. I just can't do that math, apparently.
@@nickebeling7972 oh it's certainly complicated (and not everyone's taste), my point is that it certainly makes sense even if it needs its own diagram to show how. The best example of that kind of film is the low budget time travel classic Primer - I've watched it over and over and still needed a guide to what the hell is happening, there's no exposition whatsoever and it's mindboggling but it does make sense (within its own premise). Whereas this list is meant to be about films that don't actually make any sense on their own terms. Oceans Eleven is a good example of an annoying film which is quite simple but the clever heist bit doesn't actually work on its own logic (which the director has admitted). Or Donnie Darko which as they say doesn't actually quite add up (though it's awesome).
@@devonchris I feel like I got Primer even. I totally get your point and I agree, but I want to stress that TTSS is still the one of the only movies I really don't get. The twist ending of Ghost Writer I also don't get, but at least I got the gist of what was going on overall.
I think Donnie Darko makes total sense. Even without the separate materials (which I've never read). It's basically what the MCU are doing now with parallel timelines and a futuristic being orchestrating events like He Who Remains (and now Loki) did.
I thought it was disjointed because it was reality seen through the eyes of someone who is a schizophrenic so its not meant to make sense unless you have the same thought process.
I legit need you guys to cover the movie Pi at some point. It’s been 25 years and I still have no idea what I saw, why I watched it in the first place, and am still too traumatized to try to watch it again. Darren Aronofsky directs films that are my actual nightmares.
Best part of Crank 2 is how it totally undermines the beautiful ending of the first one, where he falls to his death but uses a cell phone to leave an amazing message to Amy Smart's character. In the second movie, she's mad that she had no idea what happened to him and it cuts to her answering machine getting five seconds of wind whooshing past the microphone! Of COURSE that's all she'd hear!
Zardoz, Happiness of the Katakuris, Con Air, Bad Boys II, the Fantastic Four reboot, Valerian, anything by Neil Breen, Jupiter Ascending, Slaughterhouse 5, Life of Pi. Ten for next time.
I thought Happiness of the Katakuris kind-of made sense. If there's going to be a Takashi Miike movie on the list, it should be Gozu (which was also written by Charlie Brown from Kill Bill.) Definitely with you when it comes to Neil Breen! I love how he genuinely thinks his work is very deep and profound! 😂
The only thing I really remember from "Mulholland Drive" is Rebekah del Rio's gorgeous Spanish-language version of Roy Orbison's "Crying" (in the film as "Llorando"). I spent years trying to find the song where I could legally download it. The rest of the film? I couldn't tell you anything other than two women who'd make more sense in Twin Peaks rather than Southern California.
So many great films on this list. Donnie Darko, Mulholland Drive, Crank: High Voltage, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Holy Motor, Inherent Vice, Face/Off. All of which are totally awesome.
If you're going to mention that Inherent Vice had an author several times, you could have at least said that it was the great Thomas Pynchon. ps. Totally recommend House. Esp. when a little stoned.
Donnie Darko being here makes sense. Tinker Tailor… and The Big Sleep do not. Both are understandable for anyone with a few brain cells and both are recognised classics.
I don't mind a nonsense film if it's well made, what I hate is a film that purports to tell a compelling story then devolves into nonsense with no real payoff, Coherence and High Rise did that for me, both looked so interesting but left me feeling underwhelmed by the end like I'd wasted my time
If you mean Mickey Rourke's "Angel Heart," I don't know why? It's clear as day. Rourke's PI character gets involved with the Devil who's so cleverly named himself "Lou Cyphre" and Angel (Rourke's character) discovers he's literally been looking for himself so that the Devil can claim his/their soul. And Rourke has visions of blood while having sex with Lisa Bonet. What's hard to understand about that or what's complete nonsense about that?
@@josephwest124 The only thing that didn't make any sense in Angel Heart was how all the characters are speaking with appropriate and accurate accents except Epiphany Proudfoot. 🤔 I wonder if it was like with Kevin Costner butchered attempt at an English accent in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves was so bad the director just told to not even bother and just speak as he usually does. Lol
Face/Off loses me when the wife has sex with the killer wearing her husband's face. You mean, the naked bodies match? Are they both circumsized (or not)? Same length, etc.? You'd think if nothing else, halfway through the act when he begins slapping her around with a catcher's mitt and calling her Susan she might catch on. There's about 100 ways that that scene just wouldn't work out in real life.
I really enjoyed Face Off because it was ridiculous, but every time the characters ran their fingers over each other’s faces pissed me off! Who tf does that?! It’s messed up that THAT was the thing that I found unbelievable and nonsensical!
It simply has to make sense or there's no point.... You go to see a film to enjoy it Take that film about "everything happening all at once"... Walked out halfway through scratching my head!
thought that's Amy Winehouse for a second
Atleast there's an upcoming film about her
Me too 🤣
So did I. Until they said Eva Mendez
Legit
“I didn’t know they made an Aimee Winehouse biopic”😅
Based on these entries, I feel like Everything Everywhere All At Once needs to make an appearance in a sequel list 🤔
How the hell is Tinker Tailor on this list? It's dense, certainly, but the plot adds up very clearly. If it's nonsense then so are all spy films.
For real though, I've watched that movie twice and I still don't get what's going on. I feel like a frickin idiot. And I felt like I understood The Tree of Life and Tenet and other complicated, open for interpretation films. But Tinker Tailor is the most confusing film I've ever seen. And I believe you that it adds up very clearly. I just can't do that math, apparently.
@@nickebeling7972 oh it's certainly complicated (and not everyone's taste), my point is that it certainly makes sense even if it needs its own diagram to show how. The best example of that kind of film is the low budget time travel classic Primer - I've watched it over and over and still needed a guide to what the hell is happening, there's no exposition whatsoever and it's mindboggling but it does make sense (within its own premise). Whereas this list is meant to be about films that don't actually make any sense on their own terms. Oceans Eleven is a good example of an annoying film which is quite simple but the clever heist bit doesn't actually work on its own logic (which the director has admitted). Or Donnie Darko which as they say doesn't actually quite add up (though it's awesome).
@@devonchris I feel like I got Primer even. I totally get your point and I agree, but I want to stress that TTSS is still the one of the only movies I really don't get. The twist ending of Ghost Writer I also don't get, but at least I got the gist of what was going on overall.
I think Donnie Darko makes total sense. Even without the separate materials (which I've never read). It's basically what the MCU are doing now with parallel timelines and a futuristic being orchestrating events like He Who Remains (and now Loki) did.
I thought it was disjointed because it was reality seen through the eyes of someone who is a schizophrenic so its not meant to make sense unless you have the same thought process.
People still don't get Donnie Darko?
And Rocky Horror is still ahead of its time. Almost there tho
TTSS might be convoluted, (perhaps!) but not nonsense. Same for the Big Sleep.
I agree. TTSS is a great movie.
I legit need you guys to cover the movie Pi at some point. It’s been 25 years and I still have no idea what I saw, why I watched it in the first place, and am still too traumatized to try to watch it again. Darren Aronofsky directs films that are my actual nightmares.
Best part of Crank 2 is how it totally undermines the beautiful ending of the first one, where he falls to his death but uses a cell phone to leave an amazing message to Amy Smart's character. In the second movie, she's mad that she had no idea what happened to him and it cuts to her answering machine getting five seconds of wind whooshing past the microphone! Of COURSE that's all she'd hear!
Crank movies are one of the most awesome movies out there. It just goes completely balls to the walls without any apology and then some.
Crank is played out like a game, there's an antagonist, a protagonist, a mission objective, side quests then finally a boss encounter
@@garypasquill2355 In the first one you have Berserker type HP regen, in the second one you have electrical outlets giving health like in Half Life 2.
Zardoz, Happiness of the Katakuris, Con Air, Bad Boys II, the Fantastic Four reboot, Valerian, anything by Neil Breen, Jupiter Ascending, Slaughterhouse 5, Life of Pi. Ten for next time.
I thought Happiness of the Katakuris kind-of made sense. If there's going to be a Takashi Miike movie on the list, it should be Gozu (which was also written by Charlie Brown from Kill Bill.)
Definitely with you when it comes to Neil Breen! I love how he genuinely thinks his work is very deep and profound! 😂
@@ArcherSuh4721 Space Ice does try to make sense of Neil Breen plots. And does a very good job of it.
I'm sorry, but even turning your brain off and not trying to understand it saves Fant4stic.
The only thing I really remember from "Mulholland Drive" is Rebekah del Rio's gorgeous Spanish-language version of Roy Orbison's "Crying" (in the film as "Llorando"). I spent years trying to find the song where I could legally download it. The rest of the film? I couldn't tell you anything other than two women who'd make more sense in Twin Peaks rather than Southern California.
You are wrong about Mulholland Drive. It all snaps into place with the reversal at the end.
So many great films on this list. Donnie Darko, Mulholland Drive, Crank: High Voltage, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Holy Motor, Inherent Vice, Face/Off. All of which are totally awesome.
Can't believe there's no mention of The Tree of Life, one of the best films this century
For Tinker Tailor, stick with the Alec Guinness miniseries (le Carre's favorite). You can't tell TTSS in < 5 hours.
If you're going to mention that Inherent Vice had an author several times, you could have at least said that it was the great Thomas Pynchon.
ps. Totally recommend House. Esp. when a little stoned.
Donnie Darko being here makes sense. Tinker Tailor… and The Big Sleep do not. Both are understandable for anyone with a few brain cells and both are recognised classics.
How was Annihilation not on this list?
I loved this, thank you! Will there be a Pt. 2?
I love Mullholland Drive. I also have no idea what it's about.
Why was Buckaroo Banzai not on this list?!
There are 2 kinds of people: those who "get " Buckaroo Banzai, and those who don't...
I was expecting Naked Lunch.
I love Donnie Darko, the music score is fantastic, watched it again a few weeks ago. Brilliant film.
I watched INHERENT VICE like 4 times
And I still don't know what to think of it
"Ohhh Brad!"
" ...Oh...Damnit" xD
TTSS makes perfect sense
Have you considered O Lucky Man for this list? I have only seen part of it by chance, but I remember it was quite bizarre.
Basically "When people take acid and film what happens" 😂😂😂
what makes The Big Sleep work is Bogart's mesmerizing performance. He's been copied by every tv and movie detective ever since.
I don't mind a nonsense film if it's well made, what I hate is a film that purports to tell a compelling story then devolves into nonsense with no real payoff, Coherence and High Rise did that for me, both looked so interesting but left me feeling underwhelmed by the end like I'd wasted my time
i thought micky rouke's angle heart would be in there
If you mean Mickey Rourke's "Angel Heart," I don't know why? It's clear as day. Rourke's PI character gets involved with the Devil who's so cleverly named himself "Lou Cyphre" and Angel (Rourke's character) discovers he's literally been looking for himself so that the Devil can claim his/their soul. And Rourke has visions of blood while having sex with Lisa Bonet. What's hard to understand about that or what's complete nonsense about that?
@@josephwest124 The only thing that didn't make any sense in Angel Heart was how all the characters are speaking with appropriate and accurate accents except Epiphany Proudfoot. 🤔
I wonder if it was like with Kevin Costner butchered attempt at an English accent in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves was so bad the director just told to not even bother and just speak as he usually does. Lol
How is Big Trouble In Little China not on here?
Face/Off loses me when the wife has sex with the killer wearing her husband's face. You mean, the naked bodies match? Are they both circumsized (or not)? Same length, etc.? You'd think if nothing else, halfway through the act when he begins slapping her around with a catcher's mitt and calling her Susan she might catch on. There's about 100 ways that that scene just wouldn't work out in real life.
muholland drive is a masterpiece and makes sense if you pay attention
Rubber... just fucking Rubber!
I really enjoyed Face Off because it was ridiculous, but every time the characters ran their fingers over each other’s faces pissed me off! Who tf does that?! It’s messed up that THAT was the thing that I found unbelievable and nonsensical!
What about Birdman?
4got: KABOOM 💥
‘This ridiculous chin.”
I think you might have an incredibly short attention span. Some movies are dense and some are not even about the plot. 🤷♂️
💕 TTSS: 1 🔫 🥃
Every David Lynch movie, but in the best possible way.
House is not nonsense. It is just a Japanese movie 😂.
Isn't are telling a story that you cannot tell with simple words? ;)
Naked Lunch
L.a. story
Don't you guys think that in last 5 years your channel has grown very very less?
It simply has to make sense or there's no point....
You go to see a film to enjoy it
Take that film about "everything happening all at once"...
Walked out halfway through scratching my head!
Nah the Rocky Horror Picture Show was just absolute garbage.
It's about a troon
Like your mom
Truly hated face off. Awful movie.
Great acting. Fabulous movie!