@@hybridresistance well that answers that 😆. I was opened to it due to the smaller footprint. So if you had to choose force usa leg press/hack or the gmwd or squatmax md and money wasn't a concern
@@mpolley It was actually the first thing I jumped on there (although I also tried it at Home Gym Con as well briefly). It may just be personal preference, but I basically just didn't like the way it felt as far as a leg machine. For sure built well and you can't argue with the space saving aspect, but again could just be personal preference. On a future video I'll make about Force products, I'll include some of the footage I have with it.
@@dmar192 Squatmax md all day long. If I was starting over again from zero, the squat max would be at the top of the list for sure for leg machines. It actually pushes out my leg press as well.
@@hybridresistance oh wow, I was on the fence about the squatmax since it looks like a death trap lol but for hypertrophy studies shows it as the best. It's a big space saver, thanks for your input and your channel is great!
Good information. It should also be mentioned that since the leg press is positioned downward you probably won’t need as much weight as usual because your body weight is added to the movement.
I'm working on another video now since there is one in my garage now. I'll be measuring the exact feel weight for the video. But wow do I love having one!
@@GymCrafter Cant wait on it. I am about to pull the trigger, but in Europe it is actually not available. So your video will help me to go over the time. 😊
Just walked out of their showroom. That machine is soooo nice, I almost bought it right there. Trying to figure out how to get it into my gym now. Also, they spoke very highly of you.
Well I’m finally getting around to assembling the one you’re reviewing . So far it seems well designed, right up until I got to assembling the upper back section. You mentioned the attachment is loose , but I haven’t put it on yet . I’m having issues with the back rest itself , as it’s attached with a long double sided bolt at the bottom , but the bolt is much smaller than the hole it goes into , making for a ton of movement. They definitely made a tooling error unless I’m missing something? It’s like putting a 1/4” bolt in a 3/4” hole . I wish I was a machinist , as I’d make some bushings to press in the hole to eliminate all the excessive movement
@@GymCrafter well the upper tubular back rest looks exactly like in the illustration. It’s a tooling issue for sure . I sent a short video of the issue to them in hopes there’s a way to resolve. This is all unless I missed a step,but I’m pretty sure I didn’t . The shorter lower long double sided rod/bolt that secures the foot plate fits fine with no issues . Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it . I better get down there and finish the rest of the build . It’s a little more daunting then I thought it would be , nothing major though
Leg sleds are a great alternative for people with low back issues too. For those with no issues, they offer a similar benefit to belt squats in that you can add more leg volume without more spinal pressure. Love those two machines!
I've got a new rack on the way and I'll be adding a Fringe Sport lever belt squat. I also have one of these leg presses on the way now too. I can see a solid place for both in my training. Mix is some BSS and I don't really see a need to put a bar on my back ever again.
Great review , liked and subscribed. I never would have thought of adding a pad so that it could become a hack squat, genius idea imo . I have to say this machine never interested me till now ,as I thought it was kind of weird doing a leg press upwards . I think I’m going to purchase this machine now . Recently I pretty much gave up on a dual machine and thought just go with a leg press, but luckily I watched this video. I’m 63 and I’m more into high reps, so I don’t think I’m going to miss pressing a ton . Update : just ordered
@@GymCrafter I am a little concerned this was going to feel a little weird doing squats essentially reverse . But you mentioned you got used to it fairly quickly
@@MajorTendonitis Yep. It's just a new orientation for working legs. But zero pressure on my back and really comfortable. Single leg work was a great option too with this type of set up.
@@GymCrafter actually I never thought of how it would be an improvement for excreting less pressure on your back . In theory it’s a better concept , thx again
Hello. Thank you for the wonderful review. I was interested in purchasing this product but as I am too short I don't know if it would work (5' 5"). I believe that many people are in the same position as me. Would it be possible for you to do another review but this time featuring a person of the same height or shorter? I would be very grateful, as would thousands of other people.
I don't know if I'll ba able to do that, but I don't see why it wouldn't work for a short person. The seat slides all the way to the foot plate. I'll try and show that in the review I'm shooting soon, just with the shorter person to illustrate.
What if you placed a 2x4 (or similar spacer) under the rear legs of the machine? This would increase the angle of the sled, potentially making it feel more challenging without needing as much weight.
Agree. I totally didn't expect to come away from the trip liking a leg press the best, but here we are! One is already on the way to my house. Can't wait to get rid of the RitFit and the death trap that is the Major Fitness one (that thing is gonna really hurt someone).
I have the "Ultimate" version from Force USA (bought used ofc), it's 45deg so it's a pretty good angle, my squat is 385 1RM at best and I can rep 450 for 12 (10rpe) on the leg press. The compact version is only 30deg angle so the 660lb limit will suck for those monsters out there but I think for the average joe it'd be good.
Thanks for posting this! I see several people have commented it's not enough weight, but those guys have to be squatting big numbers to say that. I'm a trainer, and can tell you that a 315 lb squat is rare for the general population. Same with a 225 lb bench. Your average Dad just trying to keep up with his kids has numbers well below that. With the way this press works, and adding bands if needed, this is more than enough for most people out there.
@@GymCrafter the 450lbs was on the 45° “Ultimate Leg Press” while I could probs do more on the compact one, but I think the 660lbs does still seem like decent weight for my needs. Good review! Love to see it 👍🏼
@@GymCrafterreally? I feel much better about my numbers now. Those are both my workout numbers. Especially the bench numbers. Had no idea i was Superman. 😅
Hey Tim, what version is this? I am seeing a V2 up here in Canada, but the Force USA site has different photos, and I'm seeing a "V3" getting tossed around on the internet. Thanks.
I wish they came with, but there are two ways to do without. First, I used a section of 1/2" threaded rod with some nuts and washers to hold it in place. I then wrapped it with some black duct tape so the threads wouldn't cut the bands. That works okay, but I prefer the second method better. The front foot of the unit is actually raised off of the ground in the middle portion. I simply loop the bands around that and then connect each end on the post between the seat and the handles. Works great. You can use standard bands. I'll be showing both methods in the video I make, but that may be a little down the road, I've got a ton of videos to shoot and post and some need to be out sooner than this one.
Titan makes one that looks like this but is a hack squat only. This one also has band pegs, which I don't think the Titan does (could be wrong on that one). With the convertible leg press/hack squat function of this, I already have one coming to my house!
I thought the same thing as you, and bought one of these leg sleds. It lasted just days in my home gym before I sold it. The problem is that it is impossible to load enough weight for it to be useful. The angle that the sled travels is too horizontal, so to get a resistance that is equivalent to e.g. a 300lb squat you need to load something like 600lb onto the sled. I couldn't even fit enough weight onto the horns to do a difficult squat. Forget about calf raises; you'd need to buy 10x as many plates as you now own and they'd never fit onto the horns. It's really too bad because the design and ergonomics are amazing.
I wouldn't have both, they kind of do the same thing. The reason I like this one is that a traditional 45 degree leg press can put your lower back in a pretty compromised position, especially if you go really deep. You can feel your lower back rounding as you reach the bottom of the movement. For me, that's a no go, so I like this one better. For others, it doesn't bother them.
I wish I knew the max height of this machine when the attachment is off and the sled is down as low as it can go , and the seat is in the hack squat position. The reason is I can get a really good deal on an LG 55” oled pre Black Friday , but I don’t know if this machine will block the tv until I get mine delivered and assembled
Call Force USA directly. Their office is attached to their showroom where I'm shooting this video. They should be able to walk over and measure it for you.
@@GymCrafter along these lines, what could I buy to be able to leg press, in some form, with existing equipment? I have a standard squat rack (york), an old Hoist cable machine. Looking to minimize footprint but use existing stuff if possible. I saw a lever attachment for a Titan Fitness rack (which I don't have) but it seems so heavy to move off and on so I can use as squat/bench rack regularly. Moving that lever on and off would become a strength exercise in itself for me, as I'm a female 110 lbs. but love to leg press. Thoughts?
@@549BAL That's a great question. Most people don't like my answer to this, but fairly heavily loaded Bulgarian split squats are one of the single best ways to put a lot of strain on your legs. People usually want a leg press because it allows them to load up a lot of weight, really stress their lower body, but not overload their spine or shoulders with heavy squats. BSS do that in spades. I made a short a while ago with a great hack that makes them much easier and makes the balancing part a lot easier. If you load with a safety squat bar, a heavy racked kettlebell, or even just holding heavy dumbbells, you can get a killer leg workout and not impact your back at all. Now that I think of it, there are a couple of shorts here on the channel that I made for that exercise. I just got another solution today, which is the Fringe Sport lever arm belt squat. It goes on and off the rack pretty easily and isn't all that heavy. Not sure how it compares to the Titan, but I love it. Hope that helps!
@@GymCrafter thanks, yes Bulgarian SS are a main feature. I'm just looking for leg day variety since Variation is a principle of Physiological Adaptation (not to mention motivation.) I do a thousand different squat/lunge versions :) It's just fun to sit and press too. I wish there were a light version of the lever arm attachment OR a sub-compact compact/mini Force leg press/hack squat version for example.
Hi, thanks for a great review. I am interested in this, as would be my family (my wife and daughter). If this works good for you at 6'6" male, would this work for a short female around 4'10" to 5'1"? I read somewhere that it's not good for shorter people, particularly the hack squat. Thank you Keith
That's a great question and I'm not really sure. I bottomed out the hack squat in this video and while that was plenty of depth for me at over 6', I'm not sure how that might translate to you. I suppose you could use the calf block at its highest setting, but I'm not sure how that would feel. Maybe give them a call and ask? While I was there I did see sales people doing video calls with customers in front of the equipment. That's a great way to ask them to show you specific things you'd like to see before ordering.
@@dmar192 nah don’t work for them but used to own this one. The felt weight is just physics with felt weight = weight * sin(angle of incline). Depends entirely on your plate thickness for the weight horns just like a barbell. If the question is if you could go over the 660lb limit I don’t know that I would personally but I’m sure you could use thin plates like Weight it Out and load up over 1000lb and pray for the best lol
I have one on the way and plan to measure that for the first/unboxing video I post on it. I want to show that as well as the band pegs. Force USA wasn't able to tell me.
@@keinsupport415 Thanks! I'll for sure show my DIY band peg solution in the review. I wish something came with or was built in, but for less than $10, I got what I needed at the hardware store and it works great.
I had a math whiz tell me that a 45 degree leg press has a feel weight of 71-71% of the loaded weight and a 30 degree press like this one has a 50% feel weight. Without measuring myself, that certainly sounds spot on.
This doesn't put any weight on your back or spine. I'm moving to this and a belt squat and probably won't put a heavy bar on my back again, Smith or otherwise.
Not trying to be a jerk but saw your comment and just needed to tell you the truth about leg presses. They are actually terrible for your lower back. Biomechanically the way your pelvis tilts in the seat with the internal rotation and then adding heavy, heavy loads is the perfect storm to cause lower back issues and if you already have ANY back issues then you should run away from a leg press. Hack squats are fine due to no.internal rotation of the pelvis. If you must use the leg press then put a thick pillow between your lower back and the back pad as this will offer support but it's still the wrong machine for a person with back issues. Again, not being a jerk but I am a biomechanic guru as I've studied the discipline for many years. Of course, you can choose not to believe me but I would not take the time to write this to you if I was lying. Just offering the truth Take Care
Sorry, I saw leg press and I was explaining a leg press machine. This thing Tim is sitting on is a Compact Leg Sled so my comment is a mute point to this piece of equipment. This is why one should watch or even look at the video before commenting, I'm gonna go get my foot out of my mouth Take Care
Just goes to show everyone's got a different opinion. That was one of my least favorite machines they had there. Great review brother.
What made it your least favourite?
@@hybridresistance well that answers that 😆. I was opened to it due to the smaller footprint. So if you had to choose force usa leg press/hack or the gmwd or squatmax md and money wasn't a concern
@@mpolley It was actually the first thing I jumped on there (although I also tried it at Home Gym Con as well briefly). It may just be personal preference, but I basically just didn't like the way it felt as far as a leg machine. For sure built well and you can't argue with the space saving aspect, but again could just be personal preference. On a future video I'll make about Force products, I'll include some of the footage I have with it.
@@dmar192 Squatmax md all day long. If I was starting over again from zero, the squat max would be at the top of the list for sure for leg machines. It actually pushes out my leg press as well.
@@hybridresistance oh wow, I was on the fence about the squatmax since it looks like a death trap lol but for hypertrophy studies shows it as the best. It's a big space saver, thanks for your input and your channel is great!
Just rewatched this one and I think this is the combo unit for me
It's pretty awesome. Adding bands really makes it!
Good information. It should also be mentioned that since the leg press is positioned downward you probably won’t need as much weight as usual because your body weight is added to the movement.
I'm working on another video now since there is one in my garage now. I'll be measuring the exact feel weight for the video. But wow do I love having one!
@@GymCrafter Cant wait on it. I am about to pull the trigger, but in Europe it is actually not available. So your video will help me to go over the time. 😊
That is the Leg Press/Hack Squat I've been waiting for. That is def going to make the cut and ill def use your code. Great review
THanks! I've got one on the way to my house now!
Just walked out of their showroom. That machine is soooo nice, I almost bought it right there. Trying to figure out how to get it into my gym now. Also, they spoke very highly of you.
Awesome that you got to go there! Lots of great toys all in one place!
Well I’m finally getting around to assembling the one you’re reviewing . So far it seems well designed, right up until I got to assembling the upper back section. You mentioned the attachment is loose , but I haven’t put it on yet . I’m having issues with the back rest itself , as it’s attached with a long double sided bolt at the bottom , but the bolt is much smaller than the hole it goes into , making for a ton of movement. They definitely made a tooling error unless I’m missing something? It’s like putting a 1/4” bolt in a 3/4” hole . I wish I was a machinist , as I’d make some bushings to press in the hole to eliminate all the excessive movement
Sounds like maybe they packaged the wrong hardware with yours, mine went on with no issues. Give em a call to see if they can help you out.
@@GymCrafter well the upper tubular back rest looks exactly like in the illustration. It’s a tooling issue for sure . I sent a short video of the issue to them in hopes there’s a way to resolve.
This is all unless I missed a step,but I’m pretty sure I didn’t . The shorter lower long double sided rod/bolt that secures the foot plate fits fine with no issues .
Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it .
I better get down there and finish the rest of the build . It’s a little more daunting then I thought it would be , nothing major though
Leg sleds are a great alternative for people with low back issues too. For those with no issues, they offer a similar benefit to belt squats in that you can add more leg volume without more spinal pressure. Love those two machines!
I've got a new rack on the way and I'll be adding a Fringe Sport lever belt squat. I also have one of these leg presses on the way now too. I can see a solid place for both in my training. Mix is some BSS and I don't really see a need to put a bar on my back ever again.
Great review , liked and subscribed. I never would have thought of adding a pad so that it could become a hack squat, genius idea imo .
I have to say this machine never interested me till now ,as I thought it was kind of weird doing a leg press upwards . I think I’m going to purchase this machine now . Recently I pretty much gave up on a dual machine and thought just go with a leg press, but luckily I watched this video. I’m 63 and I’m more into high reps, so I don’t think I’m going to miss pressing a ton .
Update : just ordered
Awesome! Enjoy! I have one on the way now too!
@@GymCrafter I am a little concerned this was going to feel a little weird doing squats essentially reverse . But you mentioned you got used to it fairly quickly
@@MajorTendonitis Yep. It's just a new orientation for working legs. But zero pressure on my back and really comfortable. Single leg work was a great option too with this type of set up.
@@GymCrafter actually I never thought of how it would be an improvement for excreting less pressure on your back . In theory it’s a better concept , thx again
Hello. Thank you for the wonderful review. I was interested in purchasing this product but as I am too short I don't know if it would work (5' 5"). I believe that many people are in the same position as me.
Would it be possible for you to do another review but this time featuring a person of the same height or shorter?
I would be very grateful, as would thousands of other people.
I don't know if I'll ba able to do that, but I don't see why it wouldn't work for a short person. The seat slides all the way to the foot plate. I'll try and show that in the review I'm shooting soon, just with the shorter person to illustrate.
Looks brilliant
It really surprised me with how good it was. Took a bit of getting used to, but once I did, I loved it.
We need to see the band pegs.
I didnt know that this machine have them until i saw this video!
I have one on the way to my house now! I will for sure shoot a video showing them.
What if you placed a 2x4 (or similar spacer) under the rear legs of the machine? This would increase the angle of the sled, potentially making it feel more challenging without needing as much weight.
Want to know this too
These might be the best two budget versions out there.
Agree. I totally didn't expect to come away from the trip liking a leg press the best, but here we are! One is already on the way to my house. Can't wait to get rid of the RitFit and the death trap that is the Major Fitness one (that thing is gonna really hurt someone).
I have the "Ultimate" version from Force USA (bought used ofc), it's 45deg so it's a pretty good angle, my squat is 385 1RM at best and I can rep 450 for 12 (10rpe) on the leg press. The compact version is only 30deg angle so the 660lb limit will suck for those monsters out there but I think for the average joe it'd be good.
Thanks for posting this! I see several people have commented it's not enough weight, but those guys have to be squatting big numbers to say that. I'm a trainer, and can tell you that a 315 lb squat is rare for the general population. Same with a 225 lb bench. Your average Dad just trying to keep up with his kids has numbers well below that. With the way this press works, and adding bands if needed, this is more than enough for most people out there.
@@GymCrafter the 450lbs was on the 45° “Ultimate Leg Press” while I could probs do more on the compact one, but I think the 660lbs does still seem like decent weight for my needs.
Good review! Love to see it 👍🏼
@@GymCrafterreally? I feel much better about my numbers now. Those are both my workout numbers. Especially the bench numbers. Had no idea i was Superman. 😅
@@TruthFLA Yup! Internet lifters all squat 500 and bench 315 for reps, but normal people not so much!
@@GymCrafter lol. I get that. But i did it this morning. I looked around for kryptonite first tho. Lol
Hey Tim, what version is this? I am seeing a V2 up here in Canada, but the Force USA site has different photos, and I'm seeing a "V3" getting tossed around on the internet. Thanks.
Pretty sure this is V3
Is this what they call the V3 model or a newer version?
I have the most recent version, and that's also what's in this video. Not sure if they call it a V3 or not?
@GymCrafter thanks,, they seem to on their website so wanted to check was the same as in the video. Very helpful video, thanks.
Does the 660 pound weight capacity include the user?
@@bradcondran8896 Nope. It's 660 that can be loaded on the weight horns. Plus whatever banding you use, which can add a lot of resistance.
It doesn’t appear like band pegs are included. Can you explain how to attach bands, what length bands work best and where to get pegs that work?
I wish they came with, but there are two ways to do without. First, I used a section of 1/2" threaded rod with some nuts and washers to hold it in place. I then wrapped it with some black duct tape so the threads wouldn't cut the bands. That works okay, but I prefer the second method better. The front foot of the unit is actually raised off of the ground in the middle portion. I simply loop the bands around that and then connect each end on the post between the seat and the handles. Works great. You can use standard bands. I'll be showing both methods in the video I make, but that may be a little down the road, I've got a ton of videos to shoot and post and some need to be out sooner than this one.
Have you tried titans version? How do they compare?
Titan makes one that looks like this but is a hack squat only. This one also has band pegs, which I don't think the Titan does (could be wrong on that one). With the convertible leg press/hack squat function of this, I already have one coming to my house!
I thought the same thing as you, and bought one of these leg sleds. It lasted just days in my home gym before I sold it. The problem is that it is impossible to load enough weight for it to be useful. The angle that the sled travels is too horizontal, so to get a resistance that is equivalent to e.g. a 300lb squat you need to load something like 600lb onto the sled. I couldn't even fit enough weight onto the horns to do a difficult squat. Forget about calf raises; you'd need to buy 10x as many plates as you now own and they'd never fit onto the horns. It's really too bad because the design and ergonomics are amazing.
Now, that is a review brother
Honest, direct, and to the point,
Props to you!!!!!
Thanks for this. I’ve also been concerned about how much weight is needed. Did you end up replacing it with something else?
@@NPow94 I just do squats now.
@@djoDadof2 best results with the simplest movement. I like it.
Could bands help the resistance profile or is this just inherent with these leg sleds?
This video shows the calf bar to be on the centre of the footplate, but Force USA website it looks to be 2/3 from the bottom. Any ideas why that is?
Pic could be an image of the V1. The current version, which I own, has the bar in the middle.
I have a 45 degree leg press. Would the compact movement + hack offer useful variation in my workout?
I wouldn't have both, they kind of do the same thing. The reason I like this one is that a traditional 45 degree leg press can put your lower back in a pretty compromised position, especially if you go really deep. You can feel your lower back rounding as you reach the bottom of the movement. For me, that's a no go, so I like this one better. For others, it doesn't bother them.
I wish I knew the max height of this machine when the attachment is off and the sled is down as low as it can go , and the seat is in the hack squat position. The reason is I can get a really good deal on an LG 55” oled pre Black Friday , but I don’t know if this machine will block the tv until I get mine delivered and assembled
Call Force USA directly. Their office is attached to their showroom where I'm shooting this video. They should be able to walk over and measure it for you.
Would the C10 with the leg attachment do something similar? I'm interested in the C10 but don't have much work space this is cool though
C10 is a great alternative. Full length reviews coming soon.
@@GymCrafter along these lines, what could I buy to be able to leg press, in some form, with existing equipment? I have a standard squat rack (york), an old Hoist cable machine. Looking to minimize footprint but use existing stuff if possible. I saw a lever attachment for a Titan Fitness rack (which I don't have) but it seems so heavy to move off and on so I can use as squat/bench rack regularly. Moving that lever on and off would become a strength exercise in itself for me, as I'm a female 110 lbs. but love to leg press. Thoughts?
@@549BAL That's a great question. Most people don't like my answer to this, but fairly heavily loaded Bulgarian split squats are one of the single best ways to put a lot of strain on your legs. People usually want a leg press because it allows them to load up a lot of weight, really stress their lower body, but not overload their spine or shoulders with heavy squats. BSS do that in spades. I made a short a while ago with a great hack that makes them much easier and makes the balancing part a lot easier. If you load with a safety squat bar, a heavy racked kettlebell, or even just holding heavy dumbbells, you can get a killer leg workout and not impact your back at all. Now that I think of it, there are a couple of shorts here on the channel that I made for that exercise. I just got another solution today, which is the Fringe Sport lever arm belt squat. It goes on and off the rack pretty easily and isn't all that heavy. Not sure how it compares to the Titan, but I love it. Hope that helps!
@@GymCrafter thanks, yes Bulgarian SS are a main feature. I'm just looking for leg day variety since Variation is a principle of Physiological Adaptation (not to mention motivation.) I do a thousand different squat/lunge versions :) It's just fun to sit and press too. I wish there were a light version of the lever arm attachment OR a sub-compact compact/mini Force leg press/hack squat version for example.
@@549BAL Ah that makes sense. I'm not aware of anything smaller than those.
Hi, thanks for a great review. I am interested in this, as would be my family (my wife and daughter). If this works good for you at 6'6" male, would this work for a short female around 4'10" to 5'1"? I read somewhere that it's not good for shorter people, particularly the hack squat. Thank you
Keith
That's a great question and I'm not really sure. I bottomed out the hack squat in this video and while that was plenty of depth for me at over 6', I'm not sure how that might translate to you. I suppose you could use the calf block at its highest setting, but I'm not sure how that would feel. Maybe give them a call and ask? While I was there I did see sales people doing video calls with customers in front of the equipment. That's a great way to ask them to show you specific things you'd like to see before ordering.
@@GymCrafterthank you
If you get the answer, could you post here? I’m 5’4 with same concern
@JanetGeraty I sent them an email and the representative wrote back that she is 5'1" and uses it, but smaller than that might not work.
@JanetGeraty I am 5'1 and I can do a full squat on the leg press I would say not any shorter than around 5 ft.
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Are you still in the force hq? Lol. Is the weight feel real feel or is it like 60% feel weight? Maybe you can ask the staff if they know
It is on an angle so I doubt it can be 100%, must be a lower percentage
@@steverapos3904 got it thanks
It’s about a 30-35 degree angle sled so somewhere around 50-60% felt weight at best (excluding the sled weight)
@@BrandonSchwartz1 are you an employee of force usa? Or have you used this machine? How many metal 45lbs do you think can fit on each weight horn?
@@dmar192 nah don’t work for them but used to own this one. The felt weight is just physics with felt weight = weight * sin(angle of incline). Depends entirely on your plate thickness for the weight horns just like a barbell. If the question is if you could go over the 660lb limit I don’t know that I would personally but I’m sure you could use thin plates like Weight it Out and load up over 1000lb and pray for the best lol
What is the actual weight ratio?
I was back squatting 425 when I purchased the Titan version of this and I was maxing out on this machine no problem 5 plates per side
I have one on the way and plan to measure that for the first/unboxing video I post on it. I want to show that as well as the band pegs. Force USA wasn't able to tell me.
@@GymCrafter I couldnt see the band pegs and would really love to see your video on it. Thank you so much for the video! Greetings from Germany!
@@keinsupport415 Thanks! I'll for sure show my DIY band peg solution in the review. I wish something came with or was built in, but for less than $10, I got what I needed at the hardware store and it works great.
I had a math whiz tell me that a 45 degree leg press has a feel weight of 71-71% of the loaded weight and a 30 degree press like this one has a 50% feel weight. Without measuring myself, that certainly sounds spot on.
Why now just use a Smith machine?
This doesn't put any weight on your back or spine. I'm moving to this and a belt squat and probably won't put a heavy bar on my back again, Smith or otherwise.
Not trying to be a jerk but saw your comment and just needed to tell you the truth about leg presses.
They are actually terrible for your lower back. Biomechanically the way your pelvis tilts in the seat with the internal rotation and then adding heavy, heavy loads is the perfect storm to cause lower back issues and if you already have ANY back issues then you should run away from a leg press.
Hack squats are fine due to no.internal rotation of the pelvis.
If you must use the leg press then put a thick pillow between your lower back and the back pad as this will offer support but it's still the wrong machine for a person with back issues.
Again, not being a jerk but I am a biomechanic guru as I've studied the discipline for many years.
Of course, you can choose not to believe me but I would not take the time to write this to you if I was lying. Just offering the truth
Take Care
Sorry, I saw leg press and I was explaining a leg press machine.
This thing Tim is sitting on is a Compact Leg Sled so my comment is a mute point to this piece of equipment.
This is why one should watch or even look at the video before commenting, I'm gonna go get my foot out of my mouth
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