Creative value of sin: Iqbal on idea of sin | گناہ کی تخلیقی اہمیت
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#Iqbal #Philosophy #poetry #sin
ویڈیو ایک کہانی کی طرح تھی جو اٹھنا شروع ہوئی لیکن آخری 3 منٹ تک یہ عروج پر پہنچ گئی جب کہ یہ صرف اعلیٰ صلاحیت، درست الفاظ، صحیح وقت اور اس اہمیت کے موضوع پر تھا۔ پہلے نصف کے لیے آپ فلسفی لگتے ہیں اور اس کے بعد آخر تک آپ "درویش" بن جاتے ہیں... آپ کی گہری اور دور اندیش گفتگو کا شکریہ۔
Kind words. Honored. You just showed me a new mirror.
"Out beyond the Ideas of right and wrong, there is a field. I will meet you there" Rumi
دردِ دل ہوسِ گناہ و بر لب توبہ
در صحت مے خوری و در تب توبہ
"Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall." - William Shakespeare
Wah
یار کمال۔۔۔حیرت
Shukriya
You have forced me to watch more videos of you. Absolutely amazing amazing explanation about sin and virtue.
Thank you
At the age of 53 I feel learning experience is full of joy to achieve something good.Great effort you are doing good 👍
Thank you. Your words are really encouraging
Wonderfull... Thanks buddy... ❤
Welcome
کمال است ❤بہت خوبصورتی سے گناہ کی تعریف بتای اج تک ایسی سینس مین گناہ کو سمجھا ہی نہین تھا
Shukriya
بہت اعلیٰ
آپ نے پہلے کہا کہ گناہ میںcreativity ہے۔
اور آخر میں کہا کہ گناہ چھوڑنا سب سے بڑی فتح ھے
کیا یہ تضاد نہیں ہے
کبھی گناہ کو اس انداز سے نہیں دیکھا😢😢،حیرت ہوئی بہت۔ بہت مزہ آیا سن کر۔ جزاک اللہ!!
Thank you
بہت معنی خیز پیغام دیا ہے۔
شاید مجھ جیسے انسان نے گناہ پر غور ہی نہیں ۔۔۔۔۔شکریہ سر
Shukriya
گناہ کی طاقت نیکی کو للکار دینے کا اہم حصہ ہے تو جب تک یہ رہے گا تو ہی دنیا میں تخلیقی دوڑ لگی رہے گی
Rightly said
Dear khurram, this is the first video I've ever commented on in youtube, allamas thought and your interpretation of it have forced me to do so, what a great philosopher allama was. It's our bad luck we explored western philosophers soo much but forgot our own thinkers.
Never be disappointed for the view count, if people ever start searching meaning for thier meaningless lives they will search for these topics.
I know you dont live for attention.
Bdw you've nice book collection ❤
Honored. And thank you for kind words.
I am actually indebted that you took out time and wrote this
And yeah, my Library is my place where I practice madness, where I try to leave back mediocrity and go for higher thought.
Would love to see a high res pic of your library. Want to read the titles. @@khurramellahiofficial
Will give a tour of it someday
Never think about sin in this way . Eye opening talk
This video is so so great brother. Keep making such learn full videos.❤
Thank you
Zbrdast
Thanks
This is so intriguing and disturbing at the same time, wow
Indeed , ideas of Iqbal first shock us and later they please us
Wah! ❤
Thank you
Mashallah very nice explanation...
Thanks
Bahot khob samjhaya aap ne.
Shukriya
Ma sha Allah sir ❤️
Thank you
Mashaallah behtareen Allah ap ko jaza day ameen
Ameen
Ma sha Allah sir you have given a new perspective towards Sin. Is sy pehly kabhi aisi bhtain nahi suni. Hats off to you.
Let's thank Iqbal for introducing these ideas to our frozen community
Mind blowing 😮......
کمال۔ مزی اندر جہانے کور ذوقی
کل ہی ایک غزل لکھی۔ مطلع اسی موضوع پر تھا:
آدمی ہوں، پئے میراثِ پِدَر جاتا ہوں
سنگ ابلیس کے، میں سوئے شجَر جاتا ہوں
🖋️عتیق واصلؔ
Wah
We are lucky that we are living in the contemporary of such brains. Like him. Like Javed Ahmad. Technilogically AI is the highest of creations of science while Sir Khuram is the 'AI' of Sir Javed Ahmad.
Loved your words. Thank you
علم جن کو گمراہ کرتا ھے وہ ایسے ہی ہوتے ہیں۔
Brother I am happy that you are on the right path. May Allah keep you on right path
Javed saab ka andaaz e bayan jhalakta hai.
Oh thank you. He is my mentor
@@khurramellahiofficial , ji mai samjh gaya tha.. ham jisse bhi inspired hote hain, uska rang apne andar le lete hain..
Kabhi kabhi “Sibgatullah” ka yahi mafhoom samjh ata hai..
Khoob
Thought provoking indeed
Thanks
Mashallah ❤Bhai jan
Thanks
Wow..such unorthodox orthogonal stray thoughts and yet so beautiful
Thanks
Sir incredible thought
Indeed a different thought from Iqbal
What is sin please answer this question is a troubling me since my childhood what is your opinion and what is sin in its essence are good people vulnerable to continuing it throughout our lives what are the opinions on this topic among various religions and what are the views of philosophers is sin a trademark of greatness or perversion please explain would love to have your views about this very basic and taboo subject
Dear Sir bohat zabardast
Kia ham ap ki is baat ko asy ley skty hain k jesy " Success will teach u only 1 lesson, but Failure will teach u 100 leassons "
To ap ki baat k mutabiq Kia Guanh k liye bhi same socha ja sakta hai k " Piety will teach u only 1 lesson, but Sin wiol teach u 100 lesson"
Or jesa Wasif Ali Wasi saab ny farmaya tha k " Wo gunah jo tujhy aajiz bana dey us naiki sey bohat behtar hai jo tery andr takabur or gharoor paida kr dey "
Ap ki rahnumai ka bohat shukria
JazakAllah
Thank you so much
کسے خبر کے ھزاروں مقام رکھتا ہے وھ فقر جس میں فقر ھے روح قرآنی
How beautiful these thoughts are
Thank you so much
Sir please please please please ek video Imam Al juwaini aur Imam al Baqillani par tafseeli ♥️Khuda apko ajar de
خالص گناہ۔۔۔۔ اکثر معرفت الہی کی پہلی سیڑھی بن جایا کرتی ہے
Wah
مقالات حکمت میں لکھا یے
گنہگار ہی حقیقت کا عرف ہوتا۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ ہے
۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔!!!
Plz make another video on this topic
سر بہت شکریہ ! ❤️
سر ! کس ترتیب کے ساتھ حقیقی علم حاصل کیا جا سکتا ہے ؟ مہربانی کر کے اس بارے میں ایک فہرست بنائیں ۔
Great video dear ..
Thanks
مگر گناہ کے بعد پھر اس سے پیدا ہوئی "مایوسی و ندامت" کو کیسے tackle کیا جائے پھر ؟ دامن کا میلا ہو چکنے کے عذاب ِ ندامت سے پھر کیسے معاملہ کیا جائے گا ؟
اس بارے بھی کچھ بتائیں
Please watch the video of Faust on our channel.
sir, you are doing a great great service to our youth. It is a pity that your channel does not have many subscribers. But it is their loss than it is your loss. So, Please never ever stop doing what you are doing. Well done
Kind words, thank you. My job is to create the image, can never force humans to open eyes. So doing my humble job of creating the images.
And someday I get surprise testimonial like this. Shukriya
Sir, I commented on your video once before, this is my second comment on the same issue. Sir it will be more beneficial for us if u use to pick a topic and then dive a little more deep into it, making your video at least 15 to 25 mints. This video is better as compared to others which are very short.
Thank you for suggesting that. Just wait until we touch the mark of 200 videos. Later I will try to have longer sessions on topics.
@@khurramellahiofficial thank you for consideration❤️
Study Allama Ghulam Ahmed parwez
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اس قدر پیار ہے انساں کی خطاؤں سے مجھے
کہ فرشتہ مرا معیار نہیں ہو سکتا
Khoob
بغیر استاد کے بندے کا یہی حال ہوتا ھے جو اس وقت آپ کا ھے۔
Now that was a judgemental statement
آپ کے خیالات سے اگر کچھ علمی و فنی نوعیت کا اختلاف ہو تو ۔۔۔۔ اختلاف مٹانے کے لئے کیا کیا جائے۔ 🤔
One should mention the conflict. Or write an article or send me a good reply points while having points of conflict. I will welcome those
سر سلام عرض ہے۔۔۔۔اگر آ پ کی بات کو سچ مان لیا جائے کہ فری ول گناہ کی طرف زیادہ مائل ہے تو فطرت سلیم ۔۔۔۔۔؟؟
آخری جملے ❤ 'پوری نیکیوں کا دیس آباد کردیں اور گناہ کی ایک گلی چھوڑ کے دیکھیں، تو وہ گلی چھوڑنا بڑی فتح لگے گی '' ❤
Kuch ese he ha
This world according to me is correspondence to just a bolly wood film in which some one will be hero and some villin by the will of allah.
مولانا رومی کی نظم کا نام بتا دیں ❤
Sir apne kya Bola "fahz kuruni..." Ispe par kuch btao
ایک ہی طرح کے سجدے کرنا
یہ عبادت ہے تو عادت کیا ہے
Sir i want to get in contacts with you...a big big fan from kashmir
khurramellahikhan@gmail.com
یہ دنیا کشاکشِ نفس کی جگہ ہے، امتحان ہے۔ گناہ کی لذت وقتی ہوتی ہے مگر اس کی روحانی اذیت اور تکلیف بہت زیادہ ہوتی ہے ۔
گناہ سے حقیقی فائدہ بھی وہی اٹھا سکتا ہے جو گناہ کو گناہ سمجھے، گناہ کرکے اسے شرمندگی ہو ، اس کی یہ شرمندگی اسے توبہ تک لےکر جائے ۔
جس بندہ کو اللّٰہ تعالیٰ نے گناہ سے دور رکھا ہوا ہے اس کے لیے گناہ گار کی حالت سے سبق لینا کافی ہے اسے شکر کرنا چاہیے کہ اسے گناہ کی اذیت سے اللّٰہ تعالیٰ نے بچایا ہوا ہے ۔
شیطان نے تو گناہ کو گناہ ہی نہیں سمجھا وہ تو خود کو حق پہ سمجھتا رہا ، اسی لیے وہ توبہ سے محروم رہا، شیطان کی باطل خودی کتنی بڑی تھی جو کہ اسے گمراہی کی طرف لے گئی۔
لہذا ہمیں اپنے اندر حقیقی خودی تو یقیناً بڑی پیدا کرنی چاہیے ، جو ہمیں نفس کی سازشوں سے بچاکر رب العالمین کی محبت اور عبادت میں مشغول رکھے۔
Wonderful words. Thank you for detailed comment.
ایرک فرام نے اسے disobidience کہا ہے۔۔۔ ان کے بقول انسانی تاریخ ہی اس نافرمانی اور انحراف سے شروع ہوتی ہے، انسان اصل معنوں میں انسان بنتا ہی اسی دن ہے جب وہ انحراف کرتا اور جنت سے نکالا جاتا ہے۔۔۔
Beautiful. Enlightening comment
اور اِسی کے بعد پھر اِنسان یہ کہتا ہے کہ
حیاتِ چند روزہ بھی حیاتِ جاوداں نکلی
سر ایک ولی سے کسی نے سوال کیا کہ اگر ہم سے گناہ شیطان کرواتا ہے تو اس میں ہمارا کیا قصور ہے آپ اِس بارے میں کیا کہتے ہیں
Assalamualikum Khurram Bhai..I hope you’re fine and doing well. Bhai mane pichhle kuchh arsay se ALLAMA saahab ko sunna shuru kiya hua hai…Please make more videos about his Philosophy and visions.
Thank you. If you can go to playlist of our channel. You will find two playlists, one on stray Reflections and other on Iqbal, both are about his work
@@khurramellahiofficial Alright Bhai Thank You So Much. More Respect for you. Take Care
Welcome
Khurram sir mera recently philosophy mai interest paida huva hai aur Alama Iqbal ra ki ideology aur un ki poetry mai khaas kr k . lakin mujhe samj nahi aaraha ki mai kaha se aur kese shuru karu alama iqba ra ko parhna. apki guidance ki boht zaroarat hai so please toh guide kr den.
This playlist might make it easy for you.
th-cam.com/play/PLsQazMNuEFkyRzaIPeqU5k89IUljzRCgO.html&si=XSxTVRvyLRlE4kCh
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..jab ki..gf har pal ik naya takhayul hai...
Sir ma Kaisa ISS tarah Apne AAP Ku bana skta hu study krna philosophy like yours sir but Kaise batayee
Start the journey. It will not happen overnight
You need to walk this path.
کائنات میں پہلا گناہ مذہبی کے سر جاتا ہے عاجزی اور احترام سے انکار انا پرستی مذہبی شخصیات کا خاصہ ہوتا ہے
In these times, here I agree.
اور سر یہ بھی کہتے ہیں کہ اکثر گناہ ہی اِنسان کو نیکی کی طرف راغب کرتے ہیں اور اِس کے بعد جو لزت اِنسان کو اچھا کام کرنے میں ملتی شاید وہ اُسے کھبی نہ مل سکتی
کمال بات۔
لیکن وہ لذت کچھ عرصہ بعد ختم ہوجاتی ہے
Nahi aasi bat nahi ha maulan Tariq Jameel farmata Hain k jab main سیدھے راستے ki tarf ragib hua tu main na aik sawal ka jawab manga tha khud sa
K agr aj kaymat aa jay to ap ka Kaya خیال ha k ap جنت main Jain ga ya دوزخ main to mere Dil sa awaz aai k dozakh main bas wahi wakat that k Tariq Jameel sa Maulana Tariq Jameel ban gay
Sir how to comprehend such lines of Stray Reflection on our own?
By reading diversified subjects. You get new insights on same phenomenon
Sir please start teaching Philoophy sequentially.
Sir you Should Interduce you Self to Japanese Art Like Manga or may be Anime
Yes I am planning to. Thank you for recommending
May be Watch or read beserk, death note, Attack on titan
@@khurramellahiofficial+ jjk (philosophy of curse spirits)
@@Sufyan-er5ni yes that Would be great
@@khurramellahiofficial If this you ( not moderator) you made my Day sir
Sir 'disco' aadmi kisay kehty hain? 😅
Certainly a disco-man can only tell. So need to ask the right person
اچھا نیک لوگوں کو اس معاملے میں تو میں نے احمق پایا ہے کہ ان کو لوگ پڑھنا نہیں آتے۔ان کو پتا تک نہیں ہوتا لوگ کس حد تک گر سکتے ہیں۔وہ سب کو اپنے جیسا سمجھتے ہیں
کبھی کسی نیک بندے سے کسی کے متعلق مشورہ بھی نا لیں یہ عیب چھپا جائیں گے۔
کسی چھپری سے ہوچھیں وہ آپ کو سب سچ بتائے گا
You just opened a new window for me
Virtuous people are not stupid I think you need to see what you are pointing at.. don't indulge in something that you can't defend here and here after.
Dear sir, not all words are heard in strict paradigm of 1-0. We have stopped entertaining thoughts which give us new ideas because we are so strictly caught in our windows of right and wrong
I hope you read what Iqbal wrote about Satan. Iqbal isn’t creating confusion rather he is giving a new window to look at same phenomenon
Socrates and Aristotle hv given the theory of virtue ....Eudomania if I hv correctly spelled. Virtue and sin are relative terms though. Iqbal borrowed thoughts from many ...from khushal khattak to Sartre to Goethe. I dnt consider him an original thinker as evident from his literary journey. Virtue does not mean religious only it rather includes courage etc. regards
I will address this question soon and if you can find my podcast on TH-cam on specific topic , there I have addressed this question in detail. He wasn't only original thinker but amazing reader also. He brought so many scenes from western and other parts of the world and similarly for the rest of the world, he portrayed the eastern perspective. I am not writing this message to convince you but to put forward my opinion.
@@khurramellahiofficial i respect your valued views,yet allow me to pen down that entire literary and off course political journey of Dr Iqbal , one gets a unambiguous impression that Dr sb was prey to contradictions. Starting with his Pan Hindustan stance , Iqbal Sb took to mystic thought processes in line with Rumi and portrayed himself as a Sufi. Towards the end, he then switched to khudi after his stay in west , apparently under the influence of Self , esteem,khudi of Sartre, Dante and Goethe. In fact all this stance of mine struck me when I listened to his esteemed son Javed Sb. I am not negating his stature as a great poet ,though there too he has copied many poems of khushal khattak ( pl read both if not so far), and record shows that Dr sb asked Khadeeja madam to complete ph.D on khushal khattak which she did too.anyway I hope we must do scholarly dispositions rather than emotional one that by and large we all do. Regards
I wish we could sit someday, this isn't even partial reality. I hope you stay with us in this journey and we can introduce such thoughts to each other. Iqbal has been quoting all these people that how he reached them, where he differentiates etc.
But I like the way you disagree. Honored by that
@@khurramellahiofficial my profound regards
Dear Mr Khurram, i feel that such statements are when made infront of the masses,they are seldom not able to digest it.Each man has his own size of cup. Such things are better to be kept confidential otherwise you have to fall in the situation of Mansoor Hallaj.
Anyway,i know you from a long time when i once came across your show on Ptv (Nukta) .I liked it. Moreover,may i know what city are you from?
You are very right here, hence our society is consuming mediocre stuff
I am from Islamabad
@@khurramellahiofficial I would like to propose you to go through the work of a man who is from Lahore. His name is Raza Kazim,a relative of Juggan Kazim,and the grand father of Noori(Pakistani pop singers). He is 93 ,a retired lawyer,and now resides in his institute,Sanjan Nagar institute of Philosophy and Arts. He set the foundations of a new discipline,named Evolutionary Mentology in 1970.Unfortuantely his work couldn't get much recognition. Other than that he invented a musical instrument "Sagar Veena" and set up a school named sanjan nagar trust.I felt a need to make you aware of this personality, because i feel right now he is one of the only few alive men who have spent their lives on pondering on the Nature that Almighty has created but he is not much recognised. I believe that as you go through every other discipline and knowledge in history,i would make you aware of this new one as well incase you are not aware of it. I would send its website where there is a summary of his work on your email if you say. I would like you to review or critique his work. Thankyou
You just came as a light, I am truly honored that I will be introduced to his work. Word evolutionary methology has triggered me please send details on khurramellahikhan@gmail.com
If you can also add you WhatsApp number in the email.
Please Sir reply zaroor ki Jai ga
Sure. I will try to make another video to address your question and thank you for watching
JazakALLAH Sir, and I am waiting your video!
This explanation is creating confusion. Duality is problematic. I believe Iqbal's concept needs more refinement. Right or wrong is there but then there is mention from the Quran straight path that is what we pursue..
کسی غلط سی خطا کی نہ رکھ امید کہ ہم
بڑا منجھا ہوا ذوق گناہ رکھتے ہیں
عدم.
ابوالکلام آزاد صاحب کا نقط نظر اس حوالے سے مسحور کن ہے۔۔!
Wah
Ek Saal SE soft porn Dekh Raha tha.. aaj aap ke kehne par animal porn dekha
Kash apko video samajh aati
Khurram Elahi,
Where did you get your literature degree from??
I didn’t get any degree in literature. I love reading in the evening. That’s it.
@@khurramellahiofficial Good, stay blessed.