Throne and Liberty is terrible if you aren't playing with a massive group!!!! What do people not understand lmao. I PLAYED TL FIRST!!!! TL IS WHAT GOT ME TO PICK UP BDO! For all of you HARD coping about the future of TL, just look at the graph for Lost Ark. The exact same thing is going to happen to Throne and Liberty and there is absolutely nothing your coping is going to do to stop it.
Its finally good video about TL. Dont need to be mad for people that play mmos hardcore TL its trash mobile garbage heavy p2w all we know that but till Archeage 2 we cant get any good. Now we understand here you need some trash content to watch for kids so you can talk about TL, not worries you need to pay bills.
@@ancymon9869 Nah im 500$ into the game rn, and im still getting raw dogged by F2P GS players. Game is based on rock paper scissor, theres always a counter to your build. Theres even a guy who posted a couple days ago that he beat a 5k USD character as F2P with same class, but different stats build.
@@evan6049 dude you're just actually trash lol You don't know how to make a build to save your life. Your evasion stats alone should make f2p players not even able to hit you. There is rock paper scissors, but only at an equal gearscore. If you are getting "raw dogged" by people lower gear score than you then you are actually just bad. All top players will admit that pvp is a gear check, not a skill check. There is skill involved, but if there's a difference in gearscore skill is no longer a factor because the lower geared player shouldn't have enough hit chance to hit.
@@evan6049 they are people who will spend 100$ ten times better then you your 1k$, small brain/noob = spend 1k get shitt on, big brain/pro spend 500$ and you don't touch him, stop this bs about rock/paper/scissors becouse its working only for your evade (deff ability) against these you can pick only two, so your build will be always weak to some type of classes, but it is soo fkcing stupid btw
Well, BDO and RS are games much better than this. The only reason this game even has big numbers to begin with is because its "new" and people are just coping for the next thing that comes along. Its literally a worse version of Lost Ark, the only upside is that you don't need alts to progress, just insanely good rng and luck, or money. Is it a good game? its like a solid 5/10, it doesn't meet alot of the things that makes a good mmo, but its good enough to try until something better comes along.
I have 400 hrs in this game and I hate a lot of things about it and I'm not afraid to say it. Only thing that feels remotely decent in combat is ranged class and I have been playing assassin type classes all my life and I had to rerole from melee in throne. The dude in that video has a lot of wild takes about the game but he isn't wrong about some of them. Also.. while comparing Dark Souls type games to MMO is crazy, when someone makes a comparison about something like "the story" it doesn't matter what its compared to. a story is a story and it must be emersive.. it doesn't matter if you do it with guns in a city or obsidian glass in the wilderness. A good story is a good story and a boring one is just that. I told my friend that only story in throne I found interesting was the blue quest about the woman with he baby that turned into a zombie that let me do it from her perspective. the rest was all skippable... Thrones whole Locomotion system is shyte....and it drives me bat shit crazy at times when what you need to do requires it..
yeah. range is key in pvp, melee suffers a lot. I just did that lady zombie quest today. It was sad seeing what happened to that place and how the people suffered.
have ~600h (kr+global) and I can say, that Lineage 2 (private servers c3-c6) were way more interesting. I dont see TL to last. It is good looking game, with decent optimization but is low effort on progression side. There are 3 things in this game - open dungeons, co-op dungeons and world bosses. You just do same things over and over for minimal reward. With t2 they will add runes, which is by far worst grinding experience, everything else is the same, just different items. There is no open world pvp (instaced pvp isnt open world), like it was in L2. PvP istelf doesnt feel good (evasion/hit meta). GvG is just game of numbers and pvp itself is pretty much pointless mini game. Making progression through 3 things I mentioned, no classes, crafting and other classic mmo elements looks like a low effort move. It is good game for some time, but isnt made to last.
Honestly the beginning of the game was fun. Like any other mmo. Its new, exciting and you cant wait to get x item etc.. but its honestly a cash grab. I tevant weapons are selling for 6k usd on my server. I checked how many people have bought them, it was 256 people. That is a ton of fkn money from 256 people. The combat is RNG aswell. Its just a casino.
Its funny how so many people straight up go into denial and start to make up silly excuses whenever someone points out how terrible the combat in T&L is xD
because how much you enjoy combat is subjective, i know plenty of people who like archeages combats more than bdos and people who like bdos combat more than teras
Lol the combat is fine sorry you think your opinions are facts classic human trash asserting your concept of good on the world like you are better than anyone or that you could personally design better
I wouldn't say it's denial or silly excuses, combat is subjective, I personally think the combat in Throne is trash but clearly many people love it. I do think people take it way too personally when someone says they don't like the game's combat though. Or when someone dislikes something they like in general. It's never personal, we are all strangers on the internet.
Servers are dog sht bro. They have prime lines and priority connection for anyone who streams or makes content. It gets so bad sometimes i cant use the grapple/hookshot at all unless i relog. 9:26 i have a lot of hope for this game and some faith they’ll do it justice but right now it’s kinda boned unless some fixes come through.
i mean honestly this game imo should still be in beta there are problems that keep happening and they havent addressed them yet for example the shit targeting that everyone has complained about so far. That just the iceberg but once the problems are fixed this shit would be SOOOOO good. The base game is good like really good if you can look behind the systems in place that really pushes swiping unless you know what you're doing with lucent farming.
Problem with the lucent farming is that ship has sailed and now most of the trait epic items are sitting on AH for like 30-100 Lucent and people aren't even buying them. Stacks of like 90+ sitting waiting to sell. The only people that are making proper lucent are whales farming the top tier loot that other whales buy to max out their trait unlocks on specific items. Yes F2P players who nolifed it made some Lucent at the start if they got lucky RNG and managed to sell some stuff to whales gearing up, but just looking at how much stuff is sitting on AH for practically nothing kinda tells you the direction the game is going. I.e. at some point you will need to start swiping hard to keep up with the meta when the new gear drops. If you don't meet a certain GS criteria as a F2P you ain't gonna be in the top guilds farming scrubs for phat loot. I mean its a Korean MMO after all. Pretty much designed to suck people in and start swiping. I believe they threw a few bones at the start and managed to convince people that it wasn't that bad and now those people are invested with the hope that they can keep up.
Blue, Throne and Liberty is a free-to-play game where stats typically don't hold much significance. However, Blue, how many of the players do you think are bot accounts? At its peak upon release, Throne and Liberty had 333,393 players. Currently, it averages around 119,881 players. This means that approximately 213,512 players or bots have either quit the game or rarely play it. To put that into perspective, losing 213,512 players in just one month after release doesn't look good, Blue. Additionally, the current 119,881 players could include up to half bot accounts. Blue, there's also something called multiboxing-you should look it up. These statistics for a free-to-play, tab-targeted games can appear to be inflated or possibly make-believe.
F2P here. Willing to deal with all setbacks requiring patience. When the inventory was full and it was time to sell items to others everything changed. TaL is the most predatory mmorpg when it comes to the functionality of the auction house. The loopholes you have to go through to help the game progress by selling items to other players is ridiculous and im not even talking about the secondary P2W lucent currency. It's the process of using the auction house, painstakingly obnoxious roundabout routine to sell items. F'em. Other than that it's only patience required. The auction house process is unnecessary. People will still P2W, not sure what these above average developers who listen to their players were thinking.
Elden Ring 100% does not have an auto-attack feature unless your counting the game running how it should with enemies attacking you without your input, an auto-attack feature lets your player owned character attack by its self once locked on and in range. If you think Elden Ring has an auto attack feature go play the game lock on-to an enemy and stand within range of them with your weapon drawn see how much damage you do! Spirit Summons require you to summon them and they are basically an ai controlled ally.
Ok heres the thing the pve content in this game is down wright as easy as me Playing lego batman fr they need to up the pve experience and add a scoreboard for competitiveness in there i love everything else but we barley got nothing to do in pve like elder scrolls and they got both pve n pvp
Nc should change the way you receive boss rewards it shouldn't go to guild at all it should go straight to inventory because u can literally get kicked before you can take ur drop some guild leaders are getting smarter and smarter now they are camping at guild menu to see who got the drop to kick them before they claim anything
Ive played Throne since launch now, gotten to 3600 GS. And i will admit it kinda feels more like an MMO gatchagame than an RPG, everything is gatekept behind daily points/quests, and it feels like doing any form of grinding outside of the point systems is wasted as i had to grind 3hrs to get 1 blue item i wanted from normal world mobs, the PVP is good, but everything else is getting old really fast, i just pop in do my dailies and log of, kinda like an gatcha mobile game. So i dont think my interest will stay to much longer. That said the PVP is good but that alone will not be able to keep a playerbase, im seeing myself going back to BDO in the long run.
@@Risinqq Yeah, the guild activities is fun, but when you run out of all contents outside of those people will logg in less and less and i wouldnt have the concience to try and stay in a hardcore guild when i have to force myself to log in more than the bare minmum to stay there. Aslong as they can pump out content fast enough there is a shot it could last a while but if the T2 updates arent there by new year i think the playerbase will drop hard
I don’t think most will stay for the long run however it’s a solid game so far. It will retain some bdo players and most will probably stream/play both. Bdo needs to evolve from just having a better combat. It needs more content.
Why you payed real money for items and then cry that there is nothing to do? You payed to skip playing the game and now its a problem you created, not the games problem.. im basicly free to play other then few skins i got and im 3k gear score playing 3 hours a day and still have a lot to do and im not burned out. And if you didnt by some mirracle pay2win and are 3.6k gs then just slow down till new content drops , thats hoe every live service game ever worked dont understand whats the problem?
Blue, just come to your damn senses already, TnL has supposingly _300k+ Players_ but in reality, we ALL....AAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL KNOW, at least the non-delusional ones, know this game is 75% bots and 25% players. Game went from overly hyped, with Kanon having over 50k viewers, to Kanon having 5k players 1 day after release, to him having as low as 1k viewers 1 month later. The game is dying fast, the game is being botted up FASTER. The game is FREE, so if a bot is banned, welp, time to make 2 more bots, if 2 bots are banned, welp, time to make 4 more bots. The population is mostly bots, the real player counter of TnL is more likely around 100k, which is around 33% of the "Steam Player" count. Might as well go find a game that isnt F2P and Amazon owned, and bot infested, because you're spending money on a zombie. Its like giving money to a dead person and they can't even spend it. Thats basically how it feels if you give money to TnL and the game wind up being like New World by next year. xD
The video blue its watching exagerates some aspects of TnL, but its generally right, TnL its a bad game, thats it. We are living in a world whare graphics still decive players, one way to see if a game its fun, is by playing the game in MineCraft mode, no textures, no fancy graphics, raw minecraft mode, the result will be obvious for everyone who try that metthod.
I dunno if you notice, but BDO got way better graphics than TnL. You don't hook 200k players into playing daily by having a good graphics, cause if so BDO would be thriving.
@@evan6049 NOP,. its exactly the oposite, we only have 1 month since TnL launched, so give it more time so more people realize that. you are asuming all players have the same intelectual level, thats why stil hasnt died just yet, The dummer u are the more time it takes u to realize the problem, and most peps are not bright.
procedurally generated quest or contracts, side quest or w.e we want to call them needs to be a thing in games in the future and with ai getting better I think we should be close or at the point of it being done already
I didn't find throne to be that grindy myself but I played years of lineage 2 in its prime before it went f2p amd that game was grindy. Quests are pretty much generic of most mmo amd stand alone rpg games. Combat is smooth, and gear progression isn't the worst either as long as you know where to find the items you need. Weapon combos are fine they just need to add a dual sword wielding class. But the main focus of this game really is the guilds and pvp stuff. And that's what can spoil it as there are already guilds scamming newer players and those with little knowledge into getting boss gear for them.
Without a doubt, Everquest had better questing. That said, I think most people do not care much about questing. They just want PvP or a big monster to kill, with some loots that makes their characters better.
shows the playercount on Steam for a statement and there are 80% bots in the game xD i feel like ppl say TL is good cuz they just wanna copium and need something cuz bdo is shit for them atm no hate to any game but cmon guys if BDO was in a good state no one would play TL or even Talk about it,
@@dayoftherope1690 sure 0 bots xD bro pls stop we all know whats going on on TL i still watch stuff about TL if they change something to get it better but saying 0 bots is strait up a lie xD
He dont just play bdo. He lives and breathes it saying its better than throne. yes combat. pvp in general not a fuck. large scale is so fkn fun in throne its crazy
As a former Black Desert player. the reason I left was because every reason he's bashing T&L. On that note... BDO... peaks April 29th, 2019. 59,917... T&L... today, November 2nd 2024. 152,657... and that's this game still stabilizing.
It honestly seems like this guy was playing a different game the servers are so stable for the amount of people in the game and they are doing constant maintenance and updates. If you want to criticize the story and quests I get it, but compare it to WoW or BDO or ESO lol what is wrong with him?
Bro anyone complaining about the leveling being slow should play warframe, stop complaining about having the attention span of a gold fish. The leveling is fast, stop bitching.
I know this guy LMAO!! he went super negative in lucent for Buying off 3rd party websites and now hates the game HAHAHA!! the Devs put him in his place and he is now crying about it to the internet
Kaid Games sounding ass doesnt know what "free to play" means. As for toxicity, you might be in the BDO bubble so maybe you're not seeing something he is. Edit: nvm, the elden ring was night and day obvious. I have extremally low standards for opinions on the internet and im 100% fine with just thinking they're dumb as hell.
I could say the same thing about Black Desert Online-you're basically invisible in BDO vs NPC. TNL is pretty smooth dont be a hater. I get how dynamic BDO is, but I've been killing the same mobs for about three years.
It's based off luck. Been playing for a month, barely scraping 1k lucent a week and barely going up 100 CP per week ever since I hit 2400 on the first week.
Player rendering is terrible. There was so many player on for Belandir, our alliance was just dropping all AOE into empty fields and watching the kill feed scroll. No one could see where anyone was, or an entire raid would render in right on top of yours. It was actual dogshit pvp.
i think the population will take a massive dip after xmas, it's grindy as fk, drop rates are horrible and most of the pvp is zerg and it's just a cc fest, need open world pvp to cut down this zerg shit
Stop saying weird answers to cope. Stop comparing to other games. No content. Timegated. Combat is TERRIBLE. On console everything he says is 10 times worst. Prove me wrong. Hopefully the game dies quick so other games that deserve it, can have a better playerbase.
I don’t know if I can speak about older MMOs because I never played them, but if new MMOs can only be compared to current ones, then every game should have gacha.
throne and liberty combat sucks. but the mmo feel to it is okay but for combat bdo has it hands down but for a mmo bdo has always been slacking... but if you want a mmo game go play wow throne and liberty has a lot but its easy i thight eso is better then throne and liberty
TnL is simply hot garbage. Anyone who can't see the writing on the wall is in the honeymoon phase. Everything about this game is terrible except 1. The looks 2. The tech engineering that makes the massive battles possible Other than that this game HAS NO SOUL. This game reeks of interference by corporate executive profiteers rather than development by a team of designers that wanted to make a great game, then make some cash to support it. This game doesn't have the hooks needed to capture the BDO/typical s.korean audience, nor does it have what it takes to capture the WoW/FFXIV people, so when the honeymoon phase wears off, who wants to stick around in TnL? The best thing to come out of TnL may be that Arenanet uses the technology behind the game to develop Guild Wars 3. If they can keep the depth of Guild Wars 2 World v World pvp and have the graphic fidelity and low-lag of TnL, that will be disgustingly beautiful.
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He's actually just negative 50k lucent for RMT and mad af. We kicked him from guild and discord for it too.
If this is true that’s actually hilarious, they need to pin this comment because the context is staggering.
Is this true? Would love some evidence.
@blue
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That would be a fun twist
I mean, T&L is basically a ChatGPT version of a korean MMO, but I've definitely played worse.
Throne and Liberty is terrible if you aren't playing with a massive group!!!! What do people not understand lmao. I PLAYED TL FIRST!!!! TL IS WHAT GOT ME TO PICK UP BDO! For all of you HARD coping about the future of TL, just look at the graph for Lost Ark. The exact same thing is going to happen to Throne and Liberty and there is absolutely nothing your coping is going to do to stop it.
k bro, go play rotation simulator then 😂
Let the damage control begin! So many T&L players can't handle the truth
Let the idiocy begin! So many idiots cant handle knowing people can enjoy things other people dont
Its finally good video about TL. Dont need to be mad for people that play mmos hardcore TL its trash mobile garbage heavy p2w all we know that but till Archeage 2 we cant get any good. Now we understand here you need some trash content to watch for kids so you can talk about TL, not worries you need to pay bills.
11:55 nope. They will keep upping the gear cap, f2p will have short bursts of being equal, but they will mainly forever be in a catch up race
with those drop rate and gear being locked behind guild bosses - f2p players will always be at the back of the train.
@@Lancer1602 they want it working this way, so people who are P2W can farm these F2P
@@ancymon9869 Nah im 500$ into the game rn, and im still getting raw dogged by F2P GS players. Game is based on rock paper scissor, theres always a counter to your build. Theres even a guy who posted a couple days ago that he beat a 5k USD character as F2P with same class, but different stats build.
@@evan6049 dude you're just actually trash lol
You don't know how to make a build to save your life. Your evasion stats alone should make f2p players not even able to hit you.
There is rock paper scissors, but only at an equal gearscore. If you are getting "raw dogged" by people lower gear score than you then you are actually just bad.
All top players will admit that pvp is a gear check, not a skill check.
There is skill involved, but if there's a difference in gearscore skill is no longer a factor because the lower geared player shouldn't have enough hit chance to hit.
@@evan6049 they are people who will spend 100$ ten times better then you your 1k$, small brain/noob = spend 1k get shitt on, big brain/pro spend 500$ and you don't touch him, stop this bs about rock/paper/scissors becouse its working only for your evade (deff ability) against these you can pick only two, so your build will be always weak to some type of classes, but it is soo fkcing stupid btw
Well, BDO and RS are games much better than this. The only reason this game even has big numbers to begin with is because its "new" and people are just coping for the next thing that comes along. Its literally a worse version of Lost Ark, the only upside is that you don't need alts to progress, just insanely good rng and luck, or money. Is it a good game? its like a solid 5/10, it doesn't meet alot of the things that makes a good mmo, but its good enough to try until something better comes along.
I have 400 hrs in this game and I hate a lot of things about it and I'm not afraid to say it. Only thing that feels remotely decent in combat is ranged class and I have been playing assassin type classes all my life and I had to rerole from melee in throne. The dude in that video has a lot of wild takes about the game but he isn't wrong about some of them. Also.. while comparing Dark Souls type games to MMO is crazy, when someone makes a comparison about something like "the story" it doesn't matter what its compared to. a story is a story and it must be emersive.. it doesn't matter if you do it with guns in a city or obsidian glass in the wilderness. A good story is a good story and a boring one is just that. I told my friend that only story in throne I found interesting was the blue quest about the woman with he baby that turned into a zombie that let me do it from her perspective. the rest was all skippable... Thrones whole Locomotion system is shyte....and it drives me bat shit crazy at times when what you need to do requires it..
yeah. range is key in pvp, melee suffers a lot.
I just did that lady zombie quest today. It was sad seeing what happened to that place and how the people suffered.
Kekw melee is the most BROKEN thing in the game, chain CC isnt fun in any game so hopefully SnB and Greatsword will be nerfed to the ground
both me and my friend quit during leveling to max level, terrible game, too many weird items, too similar to WoW, garbage...
have ~600h (kr+global) and I can say, that Lineage 2 (private servers c3-c6) were way more interesting. I dont see TL to last. It is good looking game, with decent optimization but is low effort on progression side. There are 3 things in this game - open dungeons, co-op dungeons and world bosses. You just do same things over and over for minimal reward. With t2 they will add runes, which is by far worst grinding experience, everything else is the same, just different items. There is no open world pvp (instaced pvp isnt open world), like it was in L2. PvP istelf doesnt feel good (evasion/hit meta). GvG is just game of numbers and pvp itself is pretty much pointless mini game. Making progression through 3 things I mentioned, no classes, crafting and other classic mmo elements looks like a low effort move. It is good game for some time, but isnt made to last.
Throne is literally a mobile game, that and the rock paper scissor pvp makes it a super just mids game. Expect if you only large scale pvp kekw
tbh tnl is a low effort low quality mobile game pc port
Your mum is low quality
Honestly the beginning of the game was fun. Like any other mmo. Its new, exciting and you cant wait to get x item etc.. but its honestly a cash grab. I tevant weapons are selling for 6k usd on my server. I checked how many people have bought them, it was 256 people. That is a ton of fkn money from 256 people. The combat is RNG aswell. Its just a casino.
Its funny how so many people straight up go into denial and start to make up silly excuses whenever someone points out how terrible the combat in T&L is xD
because how much you enjoy combat is subjective, i know plenty of people who like archeages combats more than bdos and people who like bdos combat more than teras
cause a lot of us enjoy the combat??? LOL excuse people for enjoying something you dont
Lol the combat is fine sorry you think your opinions are facts classic human trash asserting your concept of good on the world like you are better than anyone or that you could personally design better
I wouldn't say it's denial or silly excuses, combat is subjective, I personally think the combat in Throne is trash but clearly many people love it. I do think people take it way too personally when someone says they don't like the game's combat though. Or when someone dislikes something they like in general. It's never personal, we are all strangers on the internet.
What's terrible about it ?
Servers are dog sht bro. They have prime lines and priority connection for anyone who streams or makes content. It gets so bad sometimes i cant use the grapple/hookshot at all unless i relog. 9:26 i have a lot of hope for this game and some faith they’ll do it justice but right now it’s kinda boned unless some fixes come through.
We've all heard combat is terrible, pvp is stale and lack of endgame content. Never touched the game but I know there's about a month of "content"
There's not a month of content in TL. I can assure you of that.
i mean honestly this game imo should still be in beta there are problems that keep happening and they havent addressed them yet for example the shit targeting that everyone has complained about so far. That just the iceberg but once the problems are fixed this shit would be SOOOOO good. The base game is good like really good if you can look behind the systems in place that really pushes swiping unless you know what you're doing with lucent farming.
World of Warcraft Vanilla 2004 version (not classic) has better targeting that TnL...
@@johnwalker3602 Yeah its significantly better and more fluid even when it was originally released in 2004 lol.
Problem with the lucent farming is that ship has sailed and now most of the trait epic items are sitting on AH for like 30-100 Lucent and people aren't even buying them. Stacks of like 90+ sitting waiting to sell. The only people that are making proper lucent are whales farming the top tier loot that other whales buy to max out their trait unlocks on specific items. Yes F2P players who nolifed it made some Lucent at the start if they got lucky RNG and managed to sell some stuff to whales gearing up, but just looking at how much stuff is sitting on AH for practically nothing kinda tells you the direction the game is going. I.e. at some point you will need to start swiping hard to keep up with the meta when the new gear drops. If you don't meet a certain GS criteria as a F2P you ain't gonna be in the top guilds farming scrubs for phat loot. I mean its a Korean MMO after all. Pretty much designed to suck people in and start swiping. I believe they threw a few bones at the start and managed to convince people that it wasn't that bad and now those people are invested with the hope that they can keep up.
Yeah... combat system is trash. They could make something like BDO/TeraOnline, etc... but they wanted us to play the new WOW.
Blue, Throne and Liberty is a free-to-play game where stats typically don't hold much significance. However, Blue, how many of the players do you think are bot accounts?
At its peak upon release, Throne and Liberty had 333,393 players. Currently, it averages around 119,881 players. This means that approximately 213,512 players or bots have either quit the game or rarely play it. To put that into perspective, losing 213,512 players in just one month after release doesn't look good, Blue.
Additionally, the current 119,881 players could include up to half bot accounts. Blue, there's also something called multiboxing-you should look it up. These statistics for a free-to-play, tab-targeted games can appear to be inflated or possibly make-believe.
F2P here. Willing to deal with all setbacks requiring patience. When the inventory was full and it was time to sell items to others everything changed. TaL is the most predatory mmorpg when it comes to the functionality of the auction house. The loopholes you have to go through to help the game progress by selling items to other players is ridiculous and im not even talking about the secondary P2W lucent currency. It's the process of using the auction house, painstakingly obnoxious roundabout routine to sell items. F'em. Other than that it's only patience required. The auction house process is unnecessary. People will still P2W, not sure what these above average developers who listen to their players were thinking.
Elden Ring 100% does not have an auto-attack feature unless your counting the game running how it should with enemies attacking you without your input, an auto-attack feature lets your player owned character attack by its self once locked on and in range. If you think Elden Ring has an auto attack feature go play the game lock on-to an enemy and stand within range of them with your weapon drawn see how much damage you do! Spirit Summons require you to summon them and they are basically an ai controlled ally.
Expecting an MMO (FTP on top of that) to not have PTW in this day and age is delusional
Game is 2 much about gear
Ok heres the thing the pve content in this game is down wright as easy as me Playing lego batman fr they need to up the pve experience and add a scoreboard for competitiveness in there i love everything else but we barley got nothing to do in pve like elder scrolls and they got both pve n pvp
Nc should change the way you receive boss rewards it shouldn't go to guild at all it should go straight to inventory because u can literally get kicked before you can take ur drop some guild leaders are getting smarter and smarter now they are camping at guild menu to see who got the drop to kick them before they claim anything
I played lineage 2 for q4 years, Black desert for a little while. T&L Feels like a p2w mobile port to pc and console created by ai stew.
Ive played Throne since launch now, gotten to 3600 GS. And i will admit it kinda feels more like an MMO gatchagame than an RPG, everything is gatekept behind daily points/quests, and it feels like doing any form of grinding outside of the point systems is wasted as i had to grind 3hrs to get 1 blue item i wanted from normal world mobs, the PVP is good, but everything else is getting old really fast, i just pop in do my dailies and log of, kinda like an gatcha mobile game. So i dont think my interest will stay to much longer. That said the PVP is good but that alone will not be able to keep a playerbase, im seeing myself going back to BDO in the long run.
To be fair everything in this game is based around guilds, I have a lot of fun with mass PvP and guild activities, playing solo sounds dreadful.
@@Risinqq Yeah, the guild activities is fun, but when you run out of all contents outside of those people will logg in less and less and i wouldnt have the concience to try and stay in a hardcore guild when i have to force myself to log in more than the bare minmum to stay there. Aslong as they can pump out content fast enough there is a shot it could last a while but if the T2 updates arent there by new year i think the playerbase will drop hard
I don’t think most will stay for the long run however it’s a solid game so far. It will retain some bdo players and most will probably stream/play both. Bdo needs to evolve from just having a better combat. It needs more content.
Why you payed real money for items and then cry that there is nothing to do? You payed to skip playing the game and now its a problem you created, not the games problem.. im basicly free to play other then few skins i got and im 3k gear score playing 3 hours a day and still have a lot to do and im not burned out.
And if you didnt by some mirracle pay2win and are 3.6k gs then just slow down till new content drops , thats hoe every live service game ever worked dont understand whats the problem?
daily limits are there to lower the advantage the dude with no job has over the 9-5er. if you think bdo has a positive future i am so so sorry
Didn't that guy get hit up by the devs for RMT and that's why he's saying this?
I lost track when he mentionned "Runescape"
100% a troll, but a pretty good one.
get Blue into fishtank lmao
@@Mike-m9h2p Lmaoo I'd love to see it
100% rage bait when he started talking about elden ring and dota 2
i think some of it make sense cause the tnl combat outdated😂
runescape's combat is literally all auto attacks wtf is this man talking about
Blue, just come to your damn senses already, TnL has supposingly _300k+ Players_ but in reality, we ALL....AAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL KNOW, at least the non-delusional ones, know this game is 75% bots and 25% players. Game went from overly hyped, with Kanon having over 50k viewers, to Kanon having 5k players 1 day after release, to him having as low as 1k viewers 1 month later. The game is dying fast, the game is being botted up FASTER. The game is FREE, so if a bot is banned, welp, time to make 2 more bots, if 2 bots are banned, welp, time to make 4 more bots. The population is mostly bots, the real player counter of TnL is more likely around 100k, which is around 33% of the "Steam Player" count. Might as well go find a game that isnt F2P and Amazon owned, and bot infested, because you're spending money on a zombie. Its like giving money to a dead person and they can't even spend it. Thats basically how it feels if you give money to TnL and the game wind up being like New World by next year. xD
Thank, nice!
It's clear this guy has never played a tab target MMO before. The auto attack is standard practice.
It's always a BDO Andy. The sunk cost fallacy with BDO is the most powerful MMO phenomenon that exists.
the fact that its a troll video flew over your head xD
@Crystalwizardtrue the fact that is isn't a troll video flew over your head
He apparently got kicked from his guild for RMT and is -50K lucent in the auction house. God bless if it’s true because that’s beyond hilarious.
No, TL just sucks buddy.
@@1Maverick2 I don't play TL and never will. I just enjoy triggering BDO players.
yep this guy is TROLL one hundred percent :D
The video blue its watching exagerates some aspects of TnL, but its generally right, TnL its a bad game, thats it.
We are living in a world whare graphics still decive players,
one way to see if a game its fun, is by playing the game in MineCraft mode, no textures, no fancy graphics, raw minecraft mode, the result will be obvious for everyone who try that metthod.
I dunno if you notice, but BDO got way better graphics than TnL. You don't hook 200k players into playing daily by having a good graphics, cause if so BDO would be thriving.
@@evan6049 NOP,. its exactly the oposite, we only have 1 month since TnL launched, so give it more time so more people realize that.
you are asuming all players have the same intelectual level, thats why stil hasnt died just yet,
The dummer u are the more time it takes u to realize the problem, and most peps are not bright.
procedurally generated quest or contracts, side quest or w.e we want to call them needs to be a thing in games in the future and with ai getting better I think we should be close or at the point of it being done already
I didn't find throne to be that grindy myself but I played years of lineage 2 in its prime before it went f2p amd that game was grindy.
Quests are pretty much generic of most mmo amd stand alone rpg games.
Combat is smooth, and gear progression isn't the worst either as long as you know where to find the items you need.
Weapon combos are fine they just need to add a dual sword wielding class.
But the main focus of this game really is the guilds and pvp stuff.
And that's what can spoil it as there are already guilds scamming newer players and those with little knowledge into getting boss gear for them.
You don’t have to drop any cash, you just have to farm a lot and make sure you sell things on a regular basis.
Without a doubt, Everquest had better questing. That said, I think most people do not care much about questing. They just want PvP or a big monster to kill, with some loots that makes their characters better.
Its a free to play game ppl expect 5k top tier smooth cool godly gaming from a free to play game
First off the rewarding feel in runescape lvling up is nonexistent you only feel achievement at lvl 99 of each skill
Bro. Elden ring does not have an auto attack feature lmfao😂😂
There is an auto attack feature?
You can compare the story and combat from single player games to mmorpgs
lol 😂😂😂 I love his channel lol who ever actually thinks he serious haves some serious issues 😂😂😂
shows the playercount on Steam for a statement and there are 80% bots in the game xD i feel like ppl say TL is good cuz they just wanna copium and need something cuz bdo is shit for them atm no hate to any game but cmon guys if BDO was in a good state no one would play TL or even Talk about it,
80% bots? yeah you dont play this game.
@@Sam-tb8hp no bcuz i think its bad :)
but everwhere you here about the bots
Literally 0 bots on my server lol they had 4mil peak players between console and steam
Not a single bot on my server also lol
@@dayoftherope1690 sure 0 bots xD bro pls stop we all know whats going on on TL i still watch stuff about TL if they change something to get it better but saying 0 bots is strait up a lie xD
What!
Jokes on him! I bought the battle pass!😂😂🎉 I'm hooked!
another baby crying
He dont just play bdo. He lives and breathes it saying its better than throne. yes combat. pvp in general not a fuck. large scale is so fkn fun in throne its crazy
As a former Black Desert player. the reason I left was because every reason he's bashing T&L. On that note... BDO... peaks April 29th, 2019. 59,917... T&L... today, November 2nd 2024. 152,657... and that's this game still stabilizing.
It honestly seems like this guy was playing a different game the servers are so stable for the amount of people in the game and they are doing constant maintenance and updates. If you want to criticize the story and quests I get it, but compare it to WoW or BDO or ESO lol what is wrong with him?
Bro anyone complaining about the leveling being slow should play warframe, stop complaining about having the attention span of a gold fish. The leveling is fast, stop bitching.
Dude why even acknowledge this dude. TH-cam is just content creators viewing other content creators.
I know this guy LMAO!! he went super negative in lucent for Buying off 3rd party websites and now hates the game HAHAHA!! the Devs put him in his place and he is now crying about it to the internet
Looks like that bro on video was bzorn from wrong hole 😅
I like the game 😊
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that guy is high 😂😂😂
why does he sound like kaidgames
16:36 Why the long face. bruh
Kaid Games sounding ass doesnt know what "free to play" means. As for toxicity, you might be in the BDO bubble so maybe you're not seeing something he is.
Edit: nvm, the elden ring was night and day obvious. I have extremally low standards for opinions on the internet and im 100% fine with just thinking they're dumb as hell.
I could say the same thing about Black Desert Online-you're basically invisible in BDO vs NPC. TNL is pretty smooth dont be a hater. I get how dynamic BDO is, but I've been killing the same mobs for about three years.
dude is doing the rage baiting meta most of the things he said is not even true because i actually play the game and its an ai voice lol
Yea this guy is toasted
Idk i like the game. I feel like the pvp is fun af. I enjoy the gvg content
i'm F2P easily got to 3600. wth is this guy talking about?
Honestly happy if a lot more people drop the game. Then i can farm saurodoma with less people cause my server is packed lmao
It's based off luck. Been playing for a month, barely scraping 1k lucent a week and barely going up 100 CP per week ever since I hit 2400 on the first week.
Player rendering is terrible. There was so many player on for Belandir, our alliance was just dropping all AOE into empty fields and watching the kill feed scroll. No one could see where anyone was, or an entire raid would render in right on top of yours. It was actual dogshit pvp.
i think the population will take a massive dip after xmas, it's grindy as fk, drop rates are horrible and most of the pvp is zerg and it's just a cc fest, need open world pvp to cut down this zerg shit
Stop saying weird answers to cope.
Stop comparing to other games.
No content.
Timegated.
Combat is TERRIBLE.
On console everything he says is 10 times worst.
Prove me wrong.
Hopefully the game dies quick so other games that deserve it, can have a better playerbase.
200k when competing with 2million in WoW FF14 and runescape yeah u aren't competing also how many of those are bots?
i love T&L... but i will agree that the servers are bad,, if they put some $$ into the servers it would be a great game..
Me: make me 5min video, ragebait about Throne and Liberty. Compare to any random game ever.
ChatGPT: processing... Done.
LOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL
Ur getting rage baited by an ai😂😂
Asmongold?? lol
BDO wins again
TnL is not a bad game but also not a good game.
I discovered blue from him hating on TnL and rage baiting. Now this man is defending it with his life.
Because he ACTUALLY played it now. See the math?
Dota 2 has the most toxic comunity ever , is this guy on shrooms ?
i swear if brain rot was a person it would be this dude making a review
New world better than bdo or Throne
he is right though tnl is complete trash compared to BDO. in korea its dead
Come on this was obvious ragebait every game he compared TL to was worse in their own category
i play from day 2 tl on EU - and i never got alot of dc - he talks alot of bullshit lol
I don’t know if I can speak about older MMOs because I never played them, but if new MMOs can only be compared to current ones, then every game should have gacha.
throne and liberty combat sucks. but the mmo feel to it is okay but for combat bdo has it hands down but for a mmo bdo has always been slacking... but if you want a mmo game go play wow throne and liberty has a lot but its easy i thight eso is better then throne and liberty
I think He’s confused on the Genre of the game.
TnL is simply hot garbage. Anyone who can't see the writing on the wall is in the honeymoon phase. Everything about this game is terrible except
1. The looks
2. The tech engineering that makes the massive battles possible
Other than that this game HAS NO SOUL. This game reeks of interference by corporate executive profiteers rather than development by a team of designers that wanted to make a great game, then make some cash to support it.
This game doesn't have the hooks needed to capture the BDO/typical s.korean audience, nor does it have what it takes to capture the WoW/FFXIV people, so when the honeymoon phase wears off, who wants to stick around in TnL?
The best thing to come out of TnL may be that Arenanet uses the technology behind the game to develop Guild Wars 3. If they can keep the depth of Guild Wars 2 World v World pvp and have the graphic fidelity and low-lag of TnL, that will be disgustingly beautiful.
He’s trolling! No guns in this game 😆 this guy is actually funny
He’s actually super funny
Ragebait used to be believable.
hes an easy to play player
hey blue did you see kaid's videos on throne and liberty ? the same copy paste from other content developers