Quick note: I say that after the Hungarian Communists were defeated a republican government took over, technically it was a regent acting on behalf of a monarch so a little more complicated than I made out.
Hi, Hungaria (from Slovakia) here. First of all, pretty good summary Hilbert, not many foreign historians research Hungarian history well enough to get the details right. To be honest the use of the Hungarian flag is a bit of a mess. First of all, Hungary uses 23 historical flags on important national events. (Link: hu.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_t%C3%B6rt%C3%A9nelmi_z%C3%A1szl%C3%B3sor) Funny thing is, none of the current 2, the red white and green or the red white and green with the coat of arms is part of the 23 mentioned above. Now it gets complicated: it is true that during the 'rendszerváltás' (literally means 'regime change' but it only refers to the 1989 regime change... Hungary had MANY regime changes in it's 1100 year long history) there was no new law regarding the flag. What did eventually change is the coat of arms ('címer' in Hungarian). So the coat of arms you show in the thumbnail and in the video is the current/valid coat of arms of Hungary. Now here is the part where it gets really complicated/ interesting! The OFFICIAL flag of Hungary is WITHOUT the coat of arms, meaning it's just red white and green... HOWEVER the flag with the coat of arms could be used by individuals and even by state offices and local authorities WITHOUT ANY LEGAL PENALTY. So to sum it all up: red white and green is the official flag, the one with the coat of arms is semi-official. P.s.: Hilbert, a good advice, please don't use the phrase 'rebellion' when talking about the 1848/49 Hungarian revolution especially if Hungarians are around. P.p.s.: Now there are actually banned flags/symbols in Hungary. Hungary is unique in this aspect because it banned both far- right and far- left symbolism. Meaning the communist flag (1948-56) and any related symbolism as well as the arrow- cross (Hungarian nazi) flag and the swastika (German nazi) flag is banned. That's the reason why there's no real Antifa presence (unlike the US or Germany) nor is there a communist party in Hungary. On the other hand the far- right found a loophole in this law, they started to use the Árpád flag (red and white) for some weird reason which is part of the 23 historical flags to avoid being arrested or fined. Fortunately the far-right activity has been on the decline since the 2006 riots which was the peak year of neo- nazi movements.
@@stanleysmith7551 Rendszerváltás means system change. Unlike you or the Romanians we did not have a revolution, we just voted off the commies. And why would calling 1848 a revolution is an issue? It was a revolution and we learning about it like that. We have Red White and Green in our coat of arms since the 1300s. On antifa, there is no antifa in Russia either while they still using the red commie flag
@@stanleysmith7551 I really like reading "local" perspectivies and comments like yours! It's possibly the best part of TH-cam comments. IMhumbleO Thank you! ✌️🌏☮️
As a Hungarian I can say that the 4 white stripes on the red base comes from the 4 big river historically great Hungary had. That’s why Árpád house adoptes it
Nope, it is Imre I.'s coat of arm, and moat probably it is following an Iberian pattern, basicly Imre made a nice alteration of his wife's (Constance of Aragon) coat of arm. He turned the stripes horizontal and changed the gold stripes to silve (white). Basicly theses tripes have more to do with Catalonia's flag then with our rivers :DD
Helo! This is the first video I’ve ever seen from you, and you did a really good job. However as a Hungarian historian, I noticed some minor mistakes which are need to be corrected in my opinion. In 1849, the Hungarian Diet dethroned the Habsburg dynasty and the coat of arms changed as well with it. They used the so called “Kossuth címer” (Kossuth coat of arms) which is basically the Hungarian coat of arms but without the crown and the shape of the crest is slightly different as well. However, oficially the Government form was still Monarchy. In 1945-46 the second Hungarian Republic was proclaimed (communists were in minority in the government during that period). The Hungarians were sick of Monarchy as well (even though, between 1920-1944, Hungary was a Monarchy without a monarch) and the people gladly removed the crown from the crest without Soviet pressure. Communists came to power in 1947 after a controversial election. After the revolution of 1956, there was a coat of arms in the officially used flag - as far as I can remember- called the “Kádár címer” (Kádár coat of arms, named after the leader of Hungary between 1956-1989). If you need sources, feel free to contact me. But as I mentioned, you did an absolutely fine job!
The "Kádár címer" was an "internal" flag as it was used mostly within the country. Officially the flag was the red-white-green flag. It is very similar to the situation regarding the Hungariyan Constitution. Even though the constitution was a sort of copy of the russian one it actually never stated the state to be a dictatorship. (I know it is complicated but very interesting!) So basically the state was "in constitution" a democracy with a democratic constitution and the socialist government was basically above the law and used decrees/statutes to form "law" and rule the country. This is one of the reasons why we did not have to accept a new constitution after the regime change and we did not have to change the flag. Because according to law they were democratic. Personally as a political scientist I find it both amazing and hilariously funny. Also I would prefer the "Kossuth címer" as an official coat of arms and the slim flag without any addition. Also the name Republic of Hungary.
@@humorpalanta Exactly, thank you for your supplement. So do I prefer "Kossuth címer". That would be more appropriate, especially when Hungarian politicians claim themselves as the legacy of revolutionaires of 1848 and 1956.
There was a referendum planned around 1990 about what kind of coat of arms people want, the traditional one, or the stripped Kossuth kind (was supported by post communists and the infamous, ~foreign supported "Free Democrats", who later fallen out from the parliament, who always hated the traditions, called them nationalism, and always wanted to erase the past). People in huge majority supported the traditional one, and there was no question what will be voted, so the parliament finally decided to use the traditional one, and the referendum was cancelled.
Both variants are equally used both by the government, government agencies, local governments and civilians. I've never noticed any pattern or system behind it. It's completely random like whichever version they manage to get their hands on when they need a new flag. I saw a chess tournament not long ago and at these tournaments they place mini flags next to the players and even at the same chess tournament there was no consistency. :D Again, whatever they can find as long as it's a legal variant. There's also a third variant where the coat of arms is smaller and only appears on the white stripe. I think this one is only used by civilians.
It is always depending on the political views of the government. If they want to emphasize the past, they use the one with the seal. Both are officially legitimate though.
Hello Hilbert. I enjoy these videos as I always liked flags, going back to learning them as a kid and trying to match them with family atlases that showed the border changes across the last century. I heard about some of this from asking about "Magyar" stamps back then, which always seemed to be my favourite ones. It tied in well with recently seeing some Great War channel videos about the period after 1918. Happy New Year to you and anyone reading this comment.
In Hungary we mostly use the flag without the emblem. Great video overall. (Foot note you mispronounced the three mountain ranges. The Mátra, Tátra and Fátra. The 'á' is not an 'e' sound, it is stronger and somewhat longer Spanish/German like 'a' sound.)
Greetings from your neighbor from Serbia. I am always interested in content related to Hungary. I've been in Budapest, last July, at Pearl Jam concert. I've noticed a lot of calm people, in no rush. I liked that, so I hope I'll visited soon again. Lot of greetings from Belgrade! 👋👍✌
Awesome video Hilbert! My wife who is Hungarian loved it. Can you do a video on the evolution of the Austrian flag? From the days of the Holy Roman Empire, Austrian Empire, Austria-Hungary, the Federal State of Austria to the present day. Thanks
Yeah, it started well, but _á_ and _é_ were very bad. 3:50 Tátra, Mátra, Fátra - I had to look up what he was talking about. _Á_ sounds like _a_ in far or father. _É_ sounds like _a_ in way, so Béla is not Bilá. 4:24
Wow, Hilbert. Very nice information. I didn't know the representation in the coat of arms in the flag, as why they used that colors in the flag of that former grand kingdom
The story that I heard was that the crown got bent at the top because someone shut the iron box it was held in too quickly Can you IMAGINE being that guy? I'd just jump off the highest tower in the land, save the executioner the trouble
That guy didn't exist. The Holy Crown of Hungary is about a thousand years old, some say even older. The cross simply loosened during that time and some time in the 18th century they've fixed it so it won't rattle. Now, we know that the crown got abused quite a lot, but the closig too fast guy is a legend basically.
@@peterbaan9671 Well at least it's a known legends instead of me misremembering, certainly too neat and funny to be a real story. History is much more mundane most of the time.
@@peterbaan9671 Which guy? Well one part of it is a couple hundred years older than 1000 (Byzantine part) the other parts after the reign of St. Stephen. But I am sure you already know that. Closing and dropping it is pretty much disproved yes, however multiple times for long time it was hidden and dug down (being taking in a box on horse etc could have 'smashed it' perhaps, or by some reason when dug down. Doesn't need much since it is a fragile easily vounerable part. The main mystery is perhaps when it happened, could be during Habsburgs, during revolts or before. However depiction from middle of 1800s show it not crooked, whilst depictions from late 1700s show it crooked. Older depictions show a different form so it could also have undergone changes (which it did on every other part so its logical). It should be looked into more by historians and other academics.
@@therealignotus7549 It is indeed the "canon" that the crown was made out of two pieces, but one of the goldsmiths who had the opportunity to take a close look at it claimed that the parts doesn't make sense separately. I believe him more than the currently accepted theory, because that one is dumb. Anyway, the box which was housing the crown and the rest of the crown jewels is on display and it's just a reinforced box with no inserts or anything. That's why there is no guy who closed it too fast, the crown was probably damaged and repaired multiple times during the last at least 1000 years. There are multiple depictions, but especially after the Habsburgs took over, virtually nobody saw the crown irl. It was only worn on coronation ceremonies and they were rare. So for one to depict it correctly had to have: - Art talent - Access to the crown for a sufficient amount of time - The urge and permission or commission to depict it Which was very rare and even rarely survived history. Most of what survives today are copies of earlier drawings and texts. Also some of the drawings were created from text and the artist never saw the crown. Yes, the crown had some changes, earlier texts claim the picture on the back was Virgin Mary and not Michael VII Doukas. Also it had 5 pendants originally, now it has 7. Yes, it needs to be researched more and also we need to pay attention more to those who know a thing or two about goldsmithing, because historians were clearly failed us multiple times.
Hey, cheers from Hungary. You did a good job putting this together. About the flags: the flag with the coat of arms is like a more elegant version of the flag, and both are used. Also both of the crests are used separately from the flag, the "small crest" and the "large crest" including the angels.
Hi Hilbert, I am from Hungary (as I see many commenters below are), and I studied history for the appropriate number of years, but I wasn't aware of how our flag is composed (and also not aware of some of the changes)! Thanks for the video, it was really educational and contained just the right amount of details!
We mainly use the plain tricolor, without any coat of arms, that's a different matter entirely, great video btw, full of usefull and interesting informations, keep it up!!!
The Hungarian crown that included in the coat of arms actually has a hungarian king ruled after Stephen and byzantine emperor (also ruled after Stephen) on it. In Hungary one of the current version of the crown origin story states it is 2 crowns merged together one is that contains the images I mentioned above (greek crown) and one with unknown origin (latin crown). Also the cross on top is a later addition and was originally straight.
That Byzantine Emperor is Michael VII Doukas and his image is clearly a later addition as the picture is bigger than the placeholder slot and it’s placed there rather shoddily compared to the Christian saints that appear to be originals.
It is simply not reasonable how can someone call something for a crown which cannot stay on a head, Sorry but someone who can accept this stupidity that a cross-strap can be a crown - that worth their own "crown" : the fool's cap :D ¤¤¤ Also this actual fake science can stay on in "official" science meanwhile the also known the so called "parts" were created with the same technique :D at the same time ... as after some centuries some techniques are fading away - so cannot be done such thing again. Some of the small parts cannot be redo actually as the technique as it was created is not known anymore. Not even the exact ingredients of some material. Someone accepts it they worth to sit on a donkey or mule backward -- facing the butts - meanwhile the animal driven someone who cry out loud : "-- Look at this fool and pity the hapless !" More written material from different sources should be read about our Holy Crown before post something stupidity about it. Long live and prosper !
Your last sentence contains some truth - the cross is a later addition - originally the crown has a symbol on top that belongs to the Scythian past, so it must be Scythian. The most possible is a Turul or a double cross , which menas God , as it always ment 'Egy' prononced in Hungarian this sound of 'gy' or smoothed 'd' and means also the first number : Egy, so God.
@@jmeneshaton Bocsi, hogy csalódást kell okozzak, de a turulnak, a szkítáknak, vagy a magyar nomád hagyományok és vallásnak a magyar koronához abszolút nincs köze, az egész egy nagyon szigorúan keresztény valamint feudális szimbólumokkal ellátott keresztény ékszer főleg görög/bizánci valamint kevés nyugat-európai motívummal. Ha ez nem tetszik ajánlom felkeresésre a parlament kupolacsarnokát, ott megtekinteni a koronát, elolvasni néhány kutatást amit olyanok végeztek akik "kézben is tarthatták" a koronát.
1:29 red, white, green. The video is great! Some comment on the end of the video: The current hungarian constitution says, that the coat of arms and the flag without the coat of arms is the official symbols of Hungary, but it says too, that the coat of arms and the flag can be used as other historical versions were used too. This usage is regulated by a special law.
First of all, thx for the video :) The Árpád dynasty didn't just lose power, the main branch died out. Their symbol stayed on the coat of arms of kings after them, because they were all related. In fact, even the Royal Family of the UK is related to them as well. The rebellion wasn't lasted a year. It was recognized at first, then the king vas deposed and Franz Joseph walked back on the recognition. After that, it was an independence war and not a rebellion really. But that last one is nitpicking :) Also while I nitpick, the whole thing was about 1,5 year not one :D :P 1919 - No, the communists weren't crushed by foreign powers. The commies looted everything that wasn't nailed down, murdered and then simply fled. Also, the people rebelled against them. It did happen at the same time when the Romanian army pushed through, but that's a coincidence. Also-also, there is a major part missing: There were a hippie revolution of sorts in 1918, they even removed the crown from the flag, which was pretty similar to the '47 flag, but the shield shape was different. They are also the ones who should be blaimed for the previously mentioned defeat, because they started to demlilitarize the country and let the neighboring countries take territories with ethnic Hungarians lived at the time. '57 - No, it was in '56, less than two weeks after the rebellion started Current use: Both versions official, but the flag with the crest is special, it can only be used (without permission) basically by the government and its extensions. So, the Parliament, the Judical branch, the head of state, the army, etc. The rest of us can use the plain flag.
And also, in 1849 the hungarian revolution wasn't technically crushed by the Habsburg Empire, because they were busy fighting with the italians too. Therefor they didn't have enough power, and they asked Nicholas I of Russia to help them out. The hungarian army insisted to only surrender to the russians. No austrian soldier were allowed there.
You can see both really. The Holy Crown has a really interesting history too. Hungary and the Hungarian language in general all do. And just as the three hills represent mountains the silver stripes came to represent the rivers Danube, Tisa, Drava and Sava.
Oláh Miklós esztergomi érsek a mohácsi csata után Hungária c. művében írja: ősi címerünket zöld hármashalmon fehér kettőskereszttel Atila királytól örököltük!!!
A of the law in power, since the year 2011, no coat of arms is included in the official flag, and only selected governmental bodies (explicitly listed in the text) are allowed to use the second version, which includes the coat of arms in formal circumstances. However, non-official use of it is widespread and generally accepted.
Hello! I'm Hungarian and this is the first video I see abot an English guy making a video about the Hungarian flag! Btw most commonly we use the flag without the coat of arms
Theoretically, the colours of the Árpád dynasty weren't white and red, but silver and red. I don't know exactly why but somewhere it became white. But originally it was silver.
During the regime change (1989) there was a debate that the coat of arms should keep the crown on the top or should it be removed. The did not remove it at the end because they said that with the crown on top it represents the continuity of the hungarian state, and symbolises that this is the same state that was founded by Saint Stephen I.
Hello. As far as I know the flag without the coat of arms represents Hungary the country itself, and the flag with the coat of arms represents the hungarian nation with every hungarian inside or outside the borders of today's Hungary. Good video. Thanks for making a video about our little country.
hello. I am from Hungary and we usually use the plane red, white and green stripes without the simbol but if you are lucky you can see ane on a goverment building
The one without the coat of arms is used most often. Usually when government agencies or local governments have to use it they will go with the official one and many people also use the official flag, but also a lot of people prefer the one with the coat of arms. So altogether the offical flag is used most often.
Hi Hilbert, intresting videó, good work! Sadly the history and simbolysm of the coat of arms is quite a mess, you made several inaccurat asumptions but many topic is still actively debated so its too dificult to include in a short video anyways.
i am from Hungary, and you forgot the trianon and versay agrument. this is 2 important thing with out that no one can understand fully the Hungarian people :)
A very tiny error: 4:15 is a picture of a Serbian Tzar Dušan. At that time, Serbia was independent form Byzantine for some 100+ years. Tzardom of Serbia is basically the continuation of the Byzantine tradition and art, so this portrait is painted in the same fashion as Byzantine ones and has all those Orthodox motifs and items, so we can consider it the same. But since I felt a little bit of national pride when I saw the picture, just wanted to point this fact out :)
2:49 the name of it is actually the "holy crown" and if i remember correctly it was made later on in history, and stephen I wasn't crowned with this one
I'm hungarian, I live in Hungary, and on national holidays there are flags displayed on the street on street lamps and such, and they're almost always the regular tricolor without the coat of arms, and it's quite rare to see the version with the coat of arms, but you can find it in some places! Thanks for the video, learned some new things about my own country!
I remember there was a national vote regarding the flag during the regime change, between the tricolor flag without the coat of arms, with the Kossuth coat of arms, and with the coat of arms with the Royal Crown. The result of the election favored the one with the Royal Crown, so I suppose that is the official national flag, although in reality both that one and the simple tricolor are used.
The colours have meaning where the red means power, the white is for loyalty and green represents hope. Also on the coat of arms the 4 white (originally silver) lines stand for the 4 main rivers of the Hungarian kingdom, the Danube (Dúna), Tisza, Drava and Sava The double cross actually has a religious meaning of Egypt being united in 1800 BC, and on the coat of arms we're told here that it represented Hungary being a Christian Kingdom.
Hiii!! So in hungary we use both flags (both the simple tricolor and the one with the coat of arms). But there are flags that you didn't talked about. For an example with Szent István (Stephan l) our flag was full red and had a zigzag-is shape, like Nepal, then we had flags with just crosses on and with also an interesting shape, on those flags we mostly used different symbols from the coat of arms, then we had the Anjou flag after the Árpáds died out, then one from Luxemburgi Zsigmond and (big time jump) one from 1918 when there where no crown on the coat of arms Also there are some minor mistakes with the spelling like Béla isn't spelled with an 'i', 'é' is like uh.. Like in w *a* y or when you spelled 'magyar' it sounded like 'Madzsar' which is kindau nderstandable beacuse 'gy' and 'dzs' are similar, but 'dzs' is like *gy* m or *je* welry and 'gy' well.. There aren't much words pronounced with a 'gy'. Ofc the hungarian language is pretty hard so I don't blame you, sometimes even we, Hungarians misspell it lol Good video tho, keep up the good work!! Sok szeretet Magyarországról!!💓💖
Hey, the video was great but there were some mistakes, The Árpád-dynasty's "male line" died out and there was no heir for the throne! So it didn't lost power. The Patriarchal Cross was used by the most Orthodox Nations in Eastern Europe, for example Serbian's had it with White cross on Golden flag or Red cross on White flag! And the Hungarian Rebellion in 1848-49 wasn't destroyed by the Austrian's, the Austrian army was pretty weakened and the war was turning after Hungarian campaign's in Spring of 1849 called "Spring Campaign" but after the Austrians left the Country in the Summer of 1849, because of great losses and bad cohesion! And when they once more entered Hungary to destroy the Hungarian Rebellion they made an Alliance with the Russian Empire! And the Hungarian Army wasnt able to fight against 2 major empire's!
As a Hungarian i have to mention that the double cross is the apostolic double cross, as the Hungarian kings were given the apostolic title by the Pope. Thats the official story. Thus starting from Stephen I every king was the Apostolic King of the Kingdom of Hungary.
Sorry but not the Pope gave us, as the Hungarian kings , just as Stephen I. also established all the churches in the Hungarian Kingdom. just as the Pope had not send the Holy Crown to the king. If the Pope sent any crown it was not the coronation crown. The Apostolic title goes to the kingdom, the Hungarian king is an Apostol - this came from this and earlier acts happened by leaders in Pannonia. The referred this last one by Stephen generally as the scythian king or Hungarian king in person of Stephen I selected and voted to Rome leading christian churches Against byzantine version - established such churches in the Kingdom and established closer connections to Rome. He made it to so called catholic - that means universal - at least that was the intent , as it that time the christian church was parted to Rome led smaller and Constantine established official romanian where the main priest were always the Byzantine emperor only later the patriarch. And also some independent smaller churches were as well. Think about it : in the time of Atilla there were no Pope - that main priest was just bishop of Rome. So as the most strong kingdom and power in Europe he could established or tried to establish a unified christian churches. This gave the veto rights to them at the election of Pope, only the Hungarian king has that right. Franz Joseph was the last king who could use it to block a Pope to be selected for election. Some years later there was get off by a sinodus or conference -- those who had not right to take away that right. as it was not given by a Pope as the later Popes were not Apostle just as the Hungarian kings were.
Oláh Miklós esztergomi érsek a mohácsi csata után Hungária c. művében írja: ősi címerünket zöld hármashalmon fehér kettőskereszttel Atila királyunktól örököltük!!!
Hello! I am Hungarian. One flag is for the international use, and the other is for national use. The simple flag is for international use only, because the citizens and leaders of some countries can be sensitively affected by the coat of arms.
As a hungarian living in romania, I almost always see the hungarian flag whit the coat of arms cause we were part of hungary during the eras whit those flags.
@@voffbe Hát Brassóban a román magyar megeggyezés még a jobbik eset úgyh. itt nem, de a helyeken ahol a magyar román rány 50-50 ott úgy hallottam nagyobb a feszültség. Mondjuk az őseim székelyföldiek úgyh. tervezek visszamenni.
One thing you forgot to mention is that the First Hungarian Republic would actually adopt a new coat of arms from 1918 to 1919 which did not have the crown at all but it had the simple shape of the current coat of arms.
Great video! The president of the republic is also entitled to use the coat of arms with two angels as shield holders, and the prime minister is also entitled to use the coat of arms surrounded by oak branches and olive branches.
Very well made video, it's also historically accurate, but I would also confirm what others said here: the 4 stripes are representing the rivers of the Carpathian Basin and they were actually silver on the original coat of arms. But everything you said was correct. As for today's flag I like both versions, but I can imagine that they will restore the one with the coat of arms as Orbán would pretty much crown himself as king of Hungary if he could :D
Hello. The video was very well done. I would like to say the following things as positive criticism, I don't want to offend you. 1., At 1.31 you said that . "Red, yellow and green." In reality, it is not yellow, but white. What you say in 7.19 is white instead of yellow. (Why am I dating this little mistake? 🤷♂️) 2., At the Árpád strip, the white stripes indicate/indicated the four big rivers found in the "great" Hungarian nation: Danube, Tisza, Ráva and Száva. I think the video was very well done, I hope that you will make the flags of other nations with such precision and dedication.
The coat of arms that Slovakia uses tuday was first introduced by Béla III of Hungary as his personal coat of arms. If you want to represent your mountains, make your own instead of using a copy.
Hi! This was an interesting journey in our history. About the flag: the official flag is the one without the crest. Our constitution defines the meaning of the colors: red is for power, strength, white is for allegiance, green is for hope. The coat of arms, including the Holy Crown of Hungary, is the official symbol of the state. The flag with this coat of arms is defined as the "ceremonial flag", and the use of this variant is not obligatory for anyone, nor the public institutions. But if you go out to an international sports event where Hungarian supporters occur, you will probably see the ceremonial flag in their hands. :-)
The difference between the two flags: Without coat of arms: Hungarian national flag With coat of arms: state flag (government, president of the republic, constitutional court, parliament, etc.)
I didnt know that "Fun with flags" are really exsists. Thank you great video. I more often see the one with army coat. I was in belief that it is the official. I just see them at official events like the speach of the Ministerpresident. You pronounced perfectly the hungarian words. It is really rare so i had to mentioned :-) Dont mind the critical voices. This is just the know it all hungarian virtue. Ask them about the milestones of the human kind they wont know nothing... Have a nice day. I love history channalls so i subscribed. :-)
2 points I want to make. The modern flag has different dimensions fron the royal flag. It's 2:3, compared to the 1:2. Second, I'm a littlw disappointed you didn't talk more about the Austria-era Great Hungary crest, which I think is the most interesting. Flanked by the 2 angels, you can see the Hungarian crest in the center surrounded by local crests. These include Szeklerland, Slavonia, Croatia, Transylvania, etc.
We dont view the coat of arms as a part of the flag, however it can be placed on the flag. It doesnt change the flag itself though. Official buildings have the flag with the coat of arms because both are individually official symbols of the country. With or without the coat of arms, we dont think the two verssions of the flag is two versions. They are the same flag. The coat of arms is just an extra symbol by itself, it doesnt change the flag per se
The flag without the crown is the official state flag flag used by the government and also the official civil flag while the flag without the crown holds a status as an unofficial state flag
Nowadays, the pure red-white-green represents present day Hungary, the one with the coat of arms also is in use, representing the unity of all hungarians líving in Carpathian basin and all over the world.
There used to be a Hungarian cultural centre near my home. For a while they flew a Hungarian flag with the coat-of-arms center cut out! It looked like when Fearless Fosdick in the comic strip LI'L ABNER would shoot up a place and leave big round bullet holes everywhere...
I'd would prefer as being primarily hungarian, I grew up in a hungarian protestant catholic church where the bubble cross was feature in lots of places I believe it even hundreds as a tapestry over the podium of our pastor. I would love to visit there some day.
Starting from the premise that Almos , Arpad and most of their direct descendents had names of Turkic origin , and also taking into account some other aspects , the hypothesis of their Kabar - Khazar ? origin was held as valid .
It is a common misconception that prior to the 1867 compromise it was just Habsburg Empire, that is Austria, and the Hungarian Kingdom did not exist and only in 1867 the Habsburgs acknowledged the separate Hungarian Kingdom. You also said something like that. Well the Hungarian Kingdom existed throughout the Habsburg rule, the Emperor had to be crowned separately with the Hungarian Crown to become the King of Hungary and assume the right to rule Hungary. The Hungarian Kingdom was always a separate entity within the Habsburg Empire and the term Austria never covered Hungary. Without being crowned by the Saint Hungarian Crown he/she had no legitime right to rule Hungary, so anyone could have just ignore his/her decisions. There were attempts to ignore this, like in the case of Joseph II who did not crown himself with the Hungarian Crown, but he therefore had to revoke all of his decisions later on, as he made them illegitim. So the Hungarian Kingdom existed continuously from the year 1000. The only difference was that during the Habsburg rule the Habsburg Kings acknowledged only partial selfgovernence of the Hungarian nation: eg. even if there was a Hungarian Parliament (Diet) in Pozsony (today Bratislava) it had limited relevance and the Austrian secret police kept the developments under control. For instance the representatives of the Hungarian nation should have elected and approve the king and the Habsburgs obviously ignored or rather, they made sure that only loyal Hungarian nobels had a right to vote. All financial decisions were made in Vienna, keeping Hungary relatively undeveloped. Hence Hungarians rebelled against the Habsburg rule and the Compromise in 1867 fixed these acknowledging the separate Hungarian government with complex selfgovernance.
Im simple Polish guy. i see Hungary, I click.
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@@Staz11 Magyar Lengyel ket jó barát, együtt harcol és isse barát ❤️🤍💚
I was hoping to see your usual comment here! Started to miss it! Greetings from Hungary! 🙂
Quick note: I say that after the Hungarian Communists were defeated a republican government took over, technically it was a regent acting on behalf of a monarch so a little more complicated than I made out.
Hi, Hungaria (from Slovakia) here. First of all, pretty good summary Hilbert, not many foreign historians research Hungarian history well enough to get the details right. To be honest the use of the Hungarian flag is a bit of a mess. First of all, Hungary uses 23 historical flags on important national events. (Link: hu.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_t%C3%B6rt%C3%A9nelmi_z%C3%A1szl%C3%B3sor) Funny thing is, none of the current 2, the red white and green or the red white and green with the coat of arms is part of the 23 mentioned above. Now it gets complicated: it is true that during the 'rendszerváltás' (literally means 'regime change' but it only refers to the 1989 regime change... Hungary had MANY regime changes in it's 1100 year long history) there was no new law regarding the flag. What did eventually change is the coat of arms ('címer' in Hungarian). So the coat of arms you show in the thumbnail and in the video is the current/valid coat of arms of Hungary. Now here is the part where it gets really complicated/ interesting! The OFFICIAL flag of Hungary is WITHOUT the coat of arms, meaning it's just red white and green... HOWEVER the flag with the coat of arms could be used by individuals and even by state offices and local authorities WITHOUT ANY LEGAL PENALTY. So to sum it all up: red white and green is the official flag, the one with the coat of arms is semi-official.
P.s.: Hilbert, a good advice, please don't use the phrase 'rebellion' when talking about the 1848/49 Hungarian revolution especially if Hungarians are around.
P.p.s.: Now there are actually banned flags/symbols in Hungary. Hungary is unique in this aspect because it banned both far- right and far- left symbolism. Meaning the communist flag (1948-56) and any related symbolism as well as the arrow- cross (Hungarian nazi) flag and the swastika (German nazi) flag is banned. That's the reason why there's no real Antifa presence (unlike the US or Germany) nor is there a communist party in Hungary. On the other hand the far- right found a loophole in this law, they started to use the Árpád flag (red and white) for some weird reason which is part of the 23 historical flags to avoid being arrested or fined. Fortunately the far-right activity has been on the decline since the 2006 riots which was the peak year of neo- nazi movements.
@@stanleysmith7551 Rendszerváltás means system change. Unlike you or the Romanians we did not have a revolution, we just voted off the commies.
And why would calling 1848 a revolution is an issue?
It was a revolution and we learning about it like that.
We have Red White and Green in our coat of arms since the 1300s.
On antifa, there is no antifa in Russia either while they still using the red commie flag
@@stanleysmith7551 well said
@@stanleysmith7551 I really like reading "local" perspectivies and comments like yours! It's possibly the best part of TH-cam comments. IMhumbleO
Thank you! ✌️🌏☮️
you mean. YOU LIED.
As a Hungarian I can say that the 4 white stripes on the red base comes from the 4 big river historically great Hungary had. That’s why Árpád house adoptes it
Nope, it is Imre I.'s coat of arm, and moat probably it is following an Iberian pattern, basicly Imre made a nice alteration of his wife's (Constance of Aragon) coat of arm. He turned the stripes horizontal and changed the gold stripes to silve (white). Basicly theses tripes have more to do with Catalonia's flag then with our rivers :DD
@@ahmedabdul319 Your name sounds very Hungarian, I believe you on that
@@ahmedabdul319 I'm also Hungarian, and I can say Bálint is right.
@@nerovonschwarz6634 it isn't
@@goat86 bro doesnt unserstand sarcasm
Helo! This is the first video I’ve ever seen from you, and you did a really good job. However as a Hungarian historian, I noticed some minor mistakes which are need to be corrected in my opinion.
In 1849, the Hungarian Diet dethroned the Habsburg dynasty and the coat of arms changed as well with it. They used the so called “Kossuth címer” (Kossuth coat of arms) which is basically the Hungarian coat of arms but without the crown and the shape of the crest is slightly different as well. However, oficially the Government form was still Monarchy.
In 1945-46 the second Hungarian Republic was proclaimed (communists were in minority in the government during that period). The Hungarians were sick of Monarchy as well (even though, between 1920-1944, Hungary was a Monarchy without a monarch) and the people gladly removed the crown from the crest without Soviet pressure. Communists came to power in 1947 after a controversial election.
After the revolution of 1956, there was a coat of arms in the officially used flag - as far as I can remember- called the “Kádár címer” (Kádár coat of arms, named after the leader of Hungary between 1956-1989).
If you need sources, feel free to contact me.
But as I mentioned, you did an absolutely fine job!
The "Kádár címer" was an "internal" flag as it was used mostly within the country. Officially the flag was the red-white-green flag. It is very similar to the situation regarding the Hungariyan Constitution. Even though the constitution was a sort of copy of the russian one it actually never stated the state to be a dictatorship. (I know it is complicated but very interesting!) So basically the state was "in constitution" a democracy with a democratic constitution and the socialist government was basically above the law and used decrees/statutes to form "law" and rule the country. This is one of the reasons why we did not have to accept a new constitution after the regime change and we did not have to change the flag. Because according to law they were democratic. Personally as a political scientist I find it both amazing and hilariously funny. Also I would prefer the "Kossuth címer" as an official coat of arms and the slim flag without any addition. Also the name Republic of Hungary.
@@humorpalanta Exactly, thank you for your supplement.
So do I prefer "Kossuth címer". That would be more appropriate, especially when Hungarian politicians claim themselves as the legacy of revolutionaires of 1848 and 1956.
There was a referendum planned around 1990 about what kind of coat of arms people want, the traditional one, or the stripped Kossuth kind (was supported by post communists and the infamous, ~foreign supported "Free Democrats", who later fallen out from the parliament, who always hated the traditions, called them nationalism, and always wanted to erase the past). People in huge majority supported the traditional one, and there was no question what will be voted, so the parliament finally decided to use the traditional one, and the referendum was cancelled.
@@somorjai yeah, this guy is totally objective, LOL.... XD
@@humorpalanta Gondolhatod...
Both variants are equally used both by the government, government agencies, local governments and civilians. I've never noticed any pattern or system behind it. It's completely random like whichever version they manage to get their hands on when they need a new flag. I saw a chess tournament not long ago and at these tournaments they place mini flags next to the players and even at the same chess tournament there was no consistency. :D Again, whatever they can find as long as it's a legal variant. There's also a third variant where the coat of arms is smaller and only appears on the white stripe. I think this one is only used by civilians.
It is always depending on the political views of the government. If they want to emphasize the past, they use the one with the seal. Both are officially legitimate though.
The chess tournament sounds funny XD
Like choose one darnit XD OCD time!
@@n0rbert79 The seal is the official seal of Hungary, so I dont think it has anythign to do with the past.
Hello Hilbert. I enjoy these videos as I always liked flags, going back to learning them as a kid and trying to match them with family atlases that showed the border changes across the last century. I heard about some of this from asking about "Magyar" stamps back then, which always seemed to be my favourite ones. It tied in well with recently seeing some Great War channel videos about the period after 1918.
Happy New Year to you and anyone reading this comment.
Love you Hungarians, love from Slovakia :)
hello friend
💞
Love you top slovakia from hungary
Maďaři maďarům.
@@popelnicovemomenty češko
In Hungary we mostly use the flag without the emblem.
Great video overall.
(Foot note you mispronounced the three mountain ranges. The Mátra, Tátra and Fátra. The 'á' is not an 'e' sound, it is stronger and somewhat longer Spanish/German like 'a' sound.)
Sad , the coat of arms should be put on the flag .
Yeah, it's a high 'a' sound. idk if people are just lazy to look it up with google translate or it's that hard to pronounce it for english speakers
Like the A in the English word archer
im hungarian and i can confirm saying that word is just a high pitched A
just pronounce "R" with out 'R , like u start making the sound but not closing your mouth ' , if that makes sense
Greetings from your neighbor from Serbia. I am always interested in content related to Hungary. I've been in Budapest, last July, at Pearl Jam concert. I've noticed a lot of calm people, in no rush. I liked that, so I hope I'll visited soon again. Lot of greetings from Belgrade! 👋👍✌
Dude, this is the most energetic I've heard you sound period! Good to know you're in good health!
Awesome video Hilbert! My wife who is Hungarian loved it. Can you do a video on the evolution of the Austrian flag? From the days of the Holy Roman Empire, Austrian Empire, Austria-Hungary, the Federal State of Austria to the present day. Thanks
The pure fact you can pronounce hungarian words with a pretty well amazes me just by it self
Yeah, it started well, but _á_ and _é_ were very bad. 3:50 Tátra, Mátra, Fátra - I had to look up what he was talking about. _Á_ sounds like _a_ in far or father. _É_ sounds like _a_ in way, so Béla is not Bilá. 4:24
1:52 But _á_ in Áprád was not bad, so he should have stick to that pronunciation. :)
The Saint Elizabeth of Hungary Church in Toronto Canada uses the Hungarian flag with the coat of arms.
Great video man !
heyyyy hungarian here, you left out quite a few details my dude but i really appreciate the tryings to pronounce the genuinely quite difficult words
Wow, Hilbert. Very nice information. I didn't know the representation in the coat of arms in the flag, as why they used that colors in the flag of that former grand kingdom
The story that I heard was that the crown got bent at the top because someone shut the iron box it was held in too quickly
Can you IMAGINE being that guy?
I'd just jump off the highest tower in the land, save the executioner the trouble
It was dug down hidden from the Ottomans/Habsburgs for many years
That guy didn't exist. The Holy Crown of Hungary is about a thousand years old, some say even older. The cross simply loosened during that time and some time in the 18th century they've fixed it so it won't rattle.
Now, we know that the crown got abused quite a lot, but the closig too fast guy is a legend basically.
@@peterbaan9671 Well at least it's a known legends instead of me misremembering, certainly too neat and funny to be a real story. History is much more mundane most of the time.
@@peterbaan9671 Which guy? Well one part of it is a couple hundred years older than 1000 (Byzantine part) the other parts after the reign of St. Stephen. But I am sure you already know that. Closing and dropping it is pretty much disproved yes, however multiple times for long time it was hidden and dug down (being taking in a box on horse etc could have 'smashed it' perhaps, or by some reason when dug down. Doesn't need much since it is a fragile easily vounerable part. The main mystery is perhaps when it happened, could be during Habsburgs, during revolts or before. However depiction from middle of 1800s show it not crooked, whilst depictions from late 1700s show it crooked.
Older depictions show a different form so it could also have undergone changes (which it did on every other part so its logical). It should be looked into more by historians and other academics.
@@therealignotus7549
It is indeed the "canon" that the crown was made out of two pieces, but one of the goldsmiths who had the opportunity to take a close look at it claimed that the parts doesn't make sense separately. I believe him more than the currently accepted theory, because that one is dumb.
Anyway, the box which was housing the crown and the rest of the crown jewels is on display and it's just a reinforced box with no inserts or anything. That's why there is no guy who closed it too fast, the crown was probably damaged and repaired multiple times during the last at least 1000 years.
There are multiple depictions, but especially after the Habsburgs took over, virtually nobody saw the crown irl. It was only worn on coronation ceremonies and they were rare. So for one to depict it correctly had to have:
- Art talent
- Access to the crown for a sufficient amount of time
- The urge and permission or commission to depict it
Which was very rare and even rarely survived history. Most of what survives today are copies of earlier drawings and texts. Also some of the drawings were created from text and the artist never saw the crown.
Yes, the crown had some changes, earlier texts claim the picture on the back was Virgin Mary and not Michael VII Doukas. Also it had 5 pendants originally, now it has 7.
Yes, it needs to be researched more and also we need to pay attention more to those who know a thing or two about goldsmithing, because historians were clearly failed us multiple times.
Hey, cheers from Hungary. You did a good job putting this together. About the flags: the flag with the coat of arms is like a more elegant version of the flag, and both are used. Also both of the crests are used separately from the flag, the "small crest" and the "large crest" including the angels.
Hi Hilbert, I am from Hungary (as I see many commenters below are), and I studied history for the appropriate number of years, but I wasn't aware of how our flag is composed (and also not aware of some of the changes)! Thanks for the video, it was really educational and contained just the right amount of details!
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much love ❤️
I’m Hungarian American and I wish it had the symbol on it, it looks better with it
We mainly use the plain tricolor, without any coat of arms, that's a different matter entirely, great video btw, full of usefull and interesting informations, keep it up!!!
The Hungarian crown that included in the coat of arms actually has a hungarian king ruled after Stephen and byzantine emperor (also ruled after Stephen) on it. In Hungary one of the current version of the crown origin story states it is 2 crowns merged together one is that contains the images I mentioned above (greek crown) and one with unknown origin (latin crown). Also the cross on top is a later addition and was originally straight.
That Byzantine Emperor is Michael VII Doukas and his image is clearly a later addition as the picture is bigger than the placeholder slot and it’s placed there rather shoddily compared to the Christian saints that appear to be originals.
It is simply not reasonable how can someone call something for a crown which cannot stay on a head,
Sorry but someone who can accept this stupidity that a cross-strap can be a crown - that worth their own "crown" : the fool's cap :D
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Also this actual fake science can stay on in "official" science meanwhile the also known the so called "parts" were created with the same technique :D
at the same time ... as after some centuries some techniques are fading away - so cannot be done such thing again.
Some of the small parts cannot be redo actually as the technique as it was created is not known anymore. Not even the exact ingredients of some material.
Someone accepts it they worth to sit on a donkey or mule backward -- facing the butts - meanwhile the animal driven someone who cry out loud : "-- Look at this fool and pity the hapless !"
More written material from different sources should be read about our Holy Crown before post something stupidity about it.
Long live and prosper !
Your last sentence contains some truth - the cross is a later addition - originally the crown has a symbol on top that belongs to the Scythian past, so it must be Scythian. The most possible is a Turul or a double cross , which menas God , as it always ment 'Egy' prononced in Hungarian this sound of 'gy' or smoothed 'd' and means also the first number : Egy, so God.
@@jmeneshaton Bocsi, hogy csalódást kell okozzak, de a turulnak, a szkítáknak, vagy a magyar nomád hagyományok és vallásnak a magyar koronához abszolút nincs köze, az egész egy nagyon szigorúan keresztény valamint feudális szimbólumokkal ellátott keresztény ékszer főleg görög/bizánci valamint kevés nyugat-európai motívummal. Ha ez nem tetszik ajánlom felkeresésre a parlament kupolacsarnokát, ott megtekinteni a koronát, elolvasni néhány kutatást amit olyanok végeztek akik "kézben is tarthatták" a koronát.
Nice touch, using Liszt's 2nd hungarian rhapsody :) Good video, even as a Hungarian I have learnt some new stuff!
1:29 red, white, green. The video is great! Some comment on the end of the video: The current hungarian constitution says, that the coat of arms and the flag without the coat of arms is the official symbols of Hungary, but it says too, that the coat of arms and the flag can be used as other historical versions were used too. This usage is regulated by a special law.
First of all, thx for the video :)
The Árpád dynasty didn't just lose power, the main branch died out. Their symbol stayed on the coat of arms of kings after them, because they were all related. In fact, even the Royal Family of the UK is related to them as well.
The rebellion wasn't lasted a year. It was recognized at first, then the king vas deposed and Franz Joseph walked back on the recognition. After that, it was an independence war and not a rebellion really. But that last one is nitpicking :) Also while I nitpick, the whole thing was about 1,5 year not one :D :P
1919 - No, the communists weren't crushed by foreign powers. The commies looted everything that wasn't nailed down, murdered and then simply fled. Also, the people rebelled against them. It did happen at the same time when the Romanian army pushed through, but that's a coincidence.
Also-also, there is a major part missing: There were a hippie revolution of sorts in 1918, they even removed the crown from the flag, which was pretty similar to the '47 flag, but the shield shape was different. They are also the ones who should be blaimed for the previously mentioned defeat, because they started to demlilitarize the country and let the neighboring countries take territories with ethnic Hungarians lived at the time.
'57 - No, it was in '56, less than two weeks after the rebellion started
Current use:
Both versions official, but the flag with the crest is special, it can only be used (without permission) basically by the government and its extensions. So, the Parliament, the Judical branch, the head of state, the army, etc. The rest of us can use the plain flag.
Hungary is a country with a very long history, we are extremely proud of both our country and our flags!
And also, in 1849 the hungarian revolution wasn't technically crushed by the Habsburg Empire, because they were busy fighting with the italians too. Therefor they didn't have enough power, and they asked Nicholas I of Russia to help them out. The hungarian army insisted to only surrender to the russians. No austrian soldier were allowed there.
You can see both really. The Holy Crown has a really interesting history too. Hungary and the Hungarian language in general all do.
And just as the three hills represent mountains the silver stripes came to represent the rivers Danube, Tisa, Drava and Sava.
Oláh Miklós esztergomi érsek a mohácsi csata után Hungária c. művében írja: ősi címerünket zöld hármashalmon fehér kettőskereszttel Atila királytól örököltük!!!
This happened to my buddy Eric once, actually
A of the law in power, since the year 2011, no coat of arms is included in the official flag, and only selected governmental bodies (explicitly listed in the text) are allowed to use the second version, which includes the coat of arms in formal circumstances. However, non-official use of it is widespread and generally accepted.
Great video. Little bit of Missed opportunity to mention why the cross at the top of the crown is bent.
Hello! I'm Hungarian and this is the first video I see abot an English guy making a video about the Hungarian flag! Btw most commonly we use the flag without the coat of arms
Yay Hilbert did a video related to my country!
Theoretically, the colours of the Árpád dynasty weren't white and red, but silver and red. I don't know exactly why but somewhere it became white. But originally it was silver.
Every white is "argent" heraldically.
White in vexological terms is always called silver, yellow is always called gold.
During the regime change (1989) there was a debate that the coat of arms should keep the crown on the top or should it be removed. The did not remove it at the end because they said that with the crown on top it represents the continuity of the hungarian state, and symbolises that this is the same state that was founded by Saint Stephen I.
Hello.
As far as I know the flag without the coat of arms represents Hungary the country itself, and the flag with the coat of arms represents the hungarian nation with every hungarian inside or outside the borders of today's Hungary. Good video. Thanks for making a video about our little country.
hello. I am from Hungary and we usually use the plane red, white and green stripes without the simbol but if you are lucky you can see ane on a goverment building
The one without the coat of arms is used most often. Usually when government agencies or local governments have to use it they will go with the official one and many people also use the official flag, but also a lot of people prefer the one with the coat of arms. So altogether the offical flag is used most often.
The one with the coat of arms is much better, it adds more personality to the whole flag, and the historical aspect is very cool
Hi Hilbert, intresting videó, good work!
Sadly the history and simbolysm of the coat of arms is quite a mess, you made several inaccurat asumptions but many topic is still actively debated so its too dificult to include in a short video anyways.
I'm from Hungary.
That was amazing!
Thank you!
i am from Hungary, and you forgot the trianon and versay agrument. this is 2 important thing with out that no one can understand fully the Hungarian people :)
A very tiny error: 4:15 is a picture of a Serbian Tzar Dušan. At that time, Serbia was independent form Byzantine for some 100+ years. Tzardom of Serbia is basically the continuation of the Byzantine tradition and art, so this portrait is painted in the same fashion as Byzantine ones and has all those Orthodox motifs and items, so we can consider it the same.
But since I felt a little bit of national pride when I saw the picture, just wanted to point this fact out :)
You must be mistaken, cause Byzantine newer existed, you are probably referring to Eastern Roman empire or Romeic empire (in Serbian).
@@KristianHerdi Yes, I am referring to Eastern Roman Empire, colloquially known as the Byzantine empire or Byzantium.
It's nearly the same with Austria we also use the coat of arms in our flag but have the one without presentated
2:49
the name of it is actually the "holy crown" and if i remember correctly it was made later on in history, and stephen I wasn't crowned with this one
Thnx for doing this video, was fun to was as a hungarian from origin !
I'm hungarian, I live in Hungary, and on national holidays there are flags displayed on the street on street lamps and such, and they're almost always the regular tricolor without the coat of arms, and it's quite rare to see the version with the coat of arms, but you can find it in some places! Thanks for the video, learned some new things about my own country!
I remember there was a national vote regarding the flag during the regime change, between the tricolor flag without the coat of arms, with the Kossuth coat of arms, and with the coat of arms with the Royal Crown. The result of the election favored the one with the Royal Crown, so I suppose that is the official national flag, although in reality both that one and the simple tricolor are used.
The colours have meaning where the red means power, the white is for loyalty and green represents hope.
Also on the coat of arms the 4 white (originally silver) lines stand for the 4 main rivers of the Hungarian kingdom, the Danube (Dúna), Tisza, Drava and Sava
The double cross actually has a religious meaning of Egypt being united in 1800 BC, and on the coat of arms we're told here that it represented Hungary being a Christian Kingdom.
Hiii!! So in hungary we use both flags (both the simple tricolor and the one with the coat of arms).
But there are flags that you didn't talked about. For an example with Szent István (Stephan l) our flag was full red and had a zigzag-is shape, like Nepal, then we had flags with just crosses on and with also an interesting shape, on those flags we mostly used different symbols from the coat of arms, then we had the Anjou flag after the Árpáds died out, then one from Luxemburgi Zsigmond and (big time jump) one from 1918 when there where no crown on the coat of arms
Also there are some minor mistakes with the spelling like Béla isn't spelled with an 'i', 'é' is like uh.. Like in w *a* y
or when you spelled 'magyar' it sounded like 'Madzsar' which is kindau nderstandable beacuse 'gy' and 'dzs' are similar, but 'dzs' is like *gy* m or *je* welry and 'gy' well.. There aren't much words pronounced with a 'gy'. Ofc the hungarian language is pretty hard so I don't blame you, sometimes even we, Hungarians misspell it lol
Good video tho, keep up the good work!!
Sok szeretet Magyarországról!!💓💖
Please explaining why the crown on top of the shield has a crooked cross
It was buried and damaged.
Hey, the video was great but there were some mistakes,
The Árpád-dynasty's "male line" died out and there was no heir for the throne! So it didn't lost power.
The Patriarchal Cross was used by the most Orthodox Nations in Eastern Europe, for example Serbian's had it with White cross on Golden flag or Red cross on White flag!
And the Hungarian Rebellion in 1848-49 wasn't destroyed by the Austrian's, the Austrian army was pretty weakened and the war was turning after Hungarian campaign's in Spring of 1849 called "Spring Campaign" but after the Austrians left the Country in the Summer of 1849, because of great losses and bad cohesion! And when they once more entered Hungary to destroy the Hungarian Rebellion they made an Alliance with the Russian Empire! And the Hungarian Army wasnt able to fight against 2 major empire's!
Curious as to why the cross on top of the crown is crooked?
As a Hungarian i have to mention that the double cross is the apostolic double cross, as the Hungarian kings were given the apostolic title by the Pope. Thats the official story. Thus starting from Stephen I every king was the Apostolic King of the Kingdom of Hungary.
Sorry but not the Pope gave us, as the Hungarian kings , just as Stephen I. also established all the churches in the Hungarian Kingdom.
just as the Pope had not send the Holy Crown to the king. If the Pope sent any crown it was not the coronation crown.
The Apostolic title goes to the kingdom, the Hungarian king is an Apostol - this came from this and earlier acts happened by leaders in Pannonia. The referred this last one by Stephen generally as the scythian king or Hungarian king in person of Stephen I selected and voted to Rome leading christian churches Against byzantine version - established such churches in the Kingdom and established closer connections to Rome.
He made it to so called catholic - that means universal - at least that was the intent , as it that time the christian church was parted to Rome led smaller and Constantine established official romanian where the main priest were always the Byzantine emperor only later the patriarch. And also some independent smaller churches were as well.
Think about it : in the time of Atilla there were no Pope - that main priest was just bishop of Rome. So as the most strong kingdom and power in Europe he could established or tried to establish a unified christian churches.
This gave the veto rights to them at the election of Pope, only the Hungarian king has that right. Franz Joseph was the last king who could use it to block a Pope to be selected for election. Some years later there was get off by a sinodus or conference -- those who had not right to take away that right. as it was not given by a Pope as the later Popes were not Apostle just as the Hungarian kings were.
Oláh Miklós esztergomi érsek a mohácsi csata után Hungária c. művében írja: ősi címerünket zöld hármashalmon fehér kettőskereszttel Atila királyunktól örököltük!!!
Very important: the double cross is the symbol and word "one" (and means monotheism) in Hungarian runic writing.
"one god, one nation"
@@nemeshwad7402 Mi köze lett volna Attilának a kettős kereszthez?
@@the_white_rabbit meg kell kérdezni Oláh Miklós néhai esztergomi érseket.
Attól hogy ez az információ elveszett, nem jelenti azt hogy nem valid.
Érdekes Videó lett!
Please do a video about the history of the flag of Myanmar. It’s very interesting.
Hi! So the thing is the red-white-green means: Red: Power, White: Loyalty, Green: Hope.
Hello!
I am Hungarian. One flag is for the international use, and the other is for national use. The simple flag is for international use only, because the citizens and leaders of some countries can be sensitively affected by the coat of arms.
can't wait for what you will make this year
van ebben az "elemzésben" nagyon sok hiba / tévedés !!!!
Happy New Year!
1:28 Red, YELLOW(???) and green
As a hungarian living in romania, I almost always see the hungarian flag whit the coat of arms cause we were part of hungary during the eras whit those flags.
Szar lehet nem létező országban élni :C
@@voffbe Hát Brassóban a román magyar megeggyezés még a jobbik eset úgyh. itt nem, de a helyeken ahol a magyar román rány 50-50 ott úgy hallottam nagyobb a feszültség. Mondjuk az őseim székelyföldiek úgyh. tervezek visszamenni.
de egyébkébt érdemes egy látogatás Brassóban, szép város
Hi this is a very very good Hungarian history video!
One thing you forgot to mention is that the First Hungarian Republic would actually adopt a new coat of arms from 1918 to 1919 which did not have the crown at all but it had the simple shape of the current coat of arms.
On an admittedly pedantic note, when talking about a coat of arms, your left is actually right (or dexter), and vice versa.
A video utan elofordulhat, hogy visszahozzak par milliard forintert. ;)
Great video! The president of the republic is also entitled to use the coat of arms with two angels as shield holders, and the prime minister is also entitled to use the coat of arms surrounded by oak branches and olive branches.
I’m always Hungary for more flag videos
I wish nation-name puns would Finnish.
I wouldn't Russian to do that if I'm Frank-reich!
Central European country puns? Czech.
Absolutely enthralling sir! Absolutely.
11:38 hi i am from hungary. and we use it both but the normal one that just has the red white and green is displayed only!
Very well made video, it's also historically accurate, but I would also confirm what others said here: the 4 stripes are representing the rivers of the Carpathian Basin and they were actually silver on the original coat of arms. But everything you said was correct.
As for today's flag I like both versions, but I can imagine that they will restore the one with the coat of arms as Orbán would pretty much crown himself as king of Hungary if he could :D
we hope he will not :)
I personally like the simple 3 coloured flag, but I also like the kokárda without the coat of arms
In heraldry the color white represents silver (and yellow represents gold), so right you are!
Big like to Hungary from Romania 🇷🇴🤝🇭🇺
Thanks neighbor! Have a nice day!🙂
error at 1:25, stating red yellow green flag instead of red white green
more tri colour flags should have code of arms, way easier to differentiate them
I really like if we change the crest flag back!
Hello.
The video was very well done.
I would like to say the following things as positive criticism, I don't want to offend you.
1., At 1.31 you said that .
"Red, yellow and green." In reality, it is not yellow, but white. What you say in 7.19 is white instead of yellow. (Why am I dating this little mistake?
🤷♂️)
2., At the Árpád strip, the white stripes indicate/indicated the four big rivers found in the "great" Hungarian nation: Danube, Tisza, Ráva and Száva.
I think the video was very well done, I hope that you will make the flags of other nations with such precision and dedication.
would make sense they'd get rid of coat of arms, that has been adapted by slovakia, because it represents 3 mountains that are located there
The coat of arms that Slovakia uses tuday was first introduced by Béla III of Hungary as his personal coat of arms. If you want to represent your mountains, make your own instead of using a copy.
And only 2 mountains are located in modern Slovakia, so learn geography as well.
nice to see some one who can say hungarian words almost prfectly (i have seen so much english youtubers who couldnt) oh and hi from hungary :D
Hi! This was an interesting journey in our history. About the flag: the official flag is the one without the crest. Our constitution defines the meaning of the colors: red is for power, strength, white is for allegiance, green is for hope. The coat of arms, including the Holy Crown of Hungary, is the official symbol of the state. The flag with this coat of arms is defined as the "ceremonial flag", and the use of this variant is not obligatory for anyone, nor the public institutions. But if you go out to an international sports event where Hungarian supporters occur, you will probably see the ceremonial flag in their hands. :-)
The difference between the two flags:
Without coat of arms: Hungarian national flag
With coat of arms: state flag (government, president of the republic, constitutional court, parliament, etc.)
Well we have the flag with the Code of Arms, but it isn't very common in our area so it's hard to tell
I didnt know that "Fun with flags" are really exsists. Thank you great video. I more often see the one with army coat. I was in belief that it is the official. I just see them at official events like the speach of the Ministerpresident.
You pronounced perfectly the hungarian words. It is really rare so i had to mentioned :-)
Dont mind the critical voices. This is just the know it all hungarian virtue. Ask them about the milestones of the human kind they wont know nothing...
Have a nice day. I love history channalls so i subscribed. :-)
Nice job. I see mostly plain flag. I miss the coat of arm with the crown.
Why is the Botswana flag in the background bruh? Btw really nice video.
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2 points I want to make. The modern flag has different dimensions fron the royal flag. It's 2:3, compared to the 1:2.
Second, I'm a littlw disappointed you didn't talk more about the Austria-era Great Hungary crest, which I think is the most interesting. Flanked by the 2 angels, you can see the Hungarian crest in the center surrounded by local crests. These include Szeklerland, Slavonia, Croatia, Transylvania, etc.
We dont view the coat of arms as a part of the flag, however it can be placed on the flag. It doesnt change the flag itself though.
Official buildings have the flag with the coat of arms because both are individually official symbols of the country.
With or without the coat of arms, we dont think the two verssions of the flag is two versions. They are the same flag. The coat of arms is just an extra symbol by itself, it doesnt change the flag per se
4:3 Variants was used durring the Kadar and earlier durring the Rakosi period that used their Socialist arms on the 4:3 flag
The flag without the crown is the official state flag flag used by the government and also the official civil flag while the flag without the crown holds a status as an unofficial state flag
you said without twice, which is it?
@@wojtekpolska1013 without:official
With:semi-official
Nowadays, the pure red-white-green represents present day Hungary, the one with the coat of arms also is in use, representing the unity of all hungarians líving in Carpathian basin and all over the world.
As a Romanian/Hungarian I like the old flag better
Transylvania?
You are not dacian
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@@wladovits7088Balkan peoples acting civilised to eachother for more than 30 seconds (IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE)
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There used to be a Hungarian cultural centre near my home. For a while they flew a Hungarian flag with the coat-of-arms center cut out! It looked like when Fearless Fosdick in the comic strip LI'L ABNER would shoot up a place and leave big round bullet holes everywhere...
In that flag thats a symbol of the cutting out of the communist symbols. People ususally do that during the celebration of the 1956 revolution.
1:30 what where do u see yellow
Too hard to draw would be my guess
I for one would love to see the coat of arms with the angels. That would be absolutely unique in the current world.
I'd would prefer as being primarily hungarian, I grew up in a hungarian protestant catholic church where the bubble cross was feature in lots of places I believe it even hundreds as a tapestry over the podium of our pastor.
I would love to visit there some day.
A flag with the Turul bird would be cool 🇭🇺
Starting from the premise that Almos , Arpad and most of their direct descendents had names of Turkic origin , and also taking into account some other aspects , the hypothesis of their Kabar - Khazar ? origin was held as valid .
It is a common misconception that prior to the 1867 compromise it was just Habsburg Empire, that is Austria, and the Hungarian Kingdom did not exist and only in 1867 the Habsburgs acknowledged the separate Hungarian Kingdom. You also said something like that. Well the Hungarian Kingdom existed throughout the Habsburg rule, the Emperor had to be crowned separately with the Hungarian Crown to become the King of Hungary and assume the right to rule Hungary. The Hungarian Kingdom was always a separate entity within the Habsburg Empire and the term Austria never covered Hungary. Without being crowned by the Saint Hungarian Crown he/she had no legitime right to rule Hungary, so anyone could have just ignore his/her decisions. There were attempts to ignore this, like in the case of Joseph II who did not crown himself with the Hungarian Crown, but he therefore had to revoke all of his decisions later on, as he made them illegitim.
So the Hungarian Kingdom existed continuously from the year 1000. The only difference was that during the Habsburg rule the Habsburg Kings acknowledged only partial selfgovernence of the Hungarian nation: eg. even if there was a Hungarian Parliament (Diet) in Pozsony (today Bratislava) it had limited relevance and the Austrian secret police kept the developments under control. For instance the representatives of the Hungarian nation should have elected and approve the king and the Habsburgs obviously ignored or rather, they made sure that only loyal Hungarian nobels had a right to vote. All financial decisions were made in Vienna, keeping Hungary relatively undeveloped. Hence Hungarians rebelled against the Habsburg rule and the Compromise in 1867 fixed these acknowledging the separate Hungarian government with complex selfgovernance.
The coat of arms was changed when János Kádár took over in 1957
Hi, Hungarian guy here, the stripes resembles the rivers: Duna, Tisz, Dráva, Száva.