It’s a little sad that the new charecter is delayed but I find it understandable given them time to work things out and such I just hope things don’t get too delayed
I looked at the Japanese. The word they use for online changes is 改修 which means 'repair/improvement' which might indicate very small changes or only reliability improvements. Seems like we aren't going to get a ranked and probably just some under the hood bug fixes. For training mode, it's much more clear that they are adding 'something' to it. What that is, I don't know. All they say is it's based on player feedback, so fingers crossed it's a frame bar at last.
@@aqueleRu Mostly it's just not worth it - and was a needless update since announcement. The Tower system is extremelly flawed, the balance update had come out with many bugs, and even then there's the big issue of it being a mode that needs SIX PEOPLE to queue up in a fighting game. Not only the gamemode was fated to struggle with finding players, but also now the netcode needs to deal with six people instead of two.
I can imagine how stressful the dev team has been feeling ever since season 4 first dropped, but it really is appreciated that they're taking their time to drop Venom in the best condition and to also address both the abysmal rank system that is Towers and the kind of lacking training mode. This is kind of a weird opinion I have, but I actually hope they do this type of character + QoL update pack with Unika or Lucy but instead with single player stuff (somewhat reanimated story mode, cutscenes for arcade mode, return of M.O.M mode, etc). I see it as the only glaring issue with Strive if the Venom update does a good job tackling the online problems. The aspect of the game's development that got hit the hardest by covid and quarantine, and i hope they add more to it even if it delays the characters by a few weeks or so.
Happy seeing them take their time a bit now! I was worried that their work was catching up to them a bit seeing how rushed season 4 was, and I don't want a "Pokemon situation" for Guilty Gear, where holding up their schedule would make quality control harder and harder. Can't wait to see how the rest of season 4 continues if they get the time they need to flesh out the game the way they wanna!
With how often ArcSys has said they'll release something, only to push it off to the last possible date where it's technically true but barely....I fully expected Venom to come out on whatever the last possible day of "Early 2025" equaled. Just like I fully expect Unika to come out on whatever the last day of Spring is...which is almost 3 full weeks into June. Can't be disappointed if my expectations are low, right?
They can delay all they want if they're actually working on matchmaking and frame data. If what we get is a new floor in the tower and anything but frame data, I may lose my mind though.
I think what this really means is that Arcsys is really working on something else (like another licensed fighter) if they really lack the time and manpower to make a single character on this schedule. Which is okay!
they are definetly understaffed so theyre stalling. it could be felt at the start of seaosn 4, and i cna feel it now.... i cant believe how people dont see it
yeah, as things go right now it feels like ArcSys are tired of the game and its issues, and they already lost a lot of players for the last couple months. So I would not expect S5 be a thing, they might work on something potentially. Maybe BB revival?
I'm more curious on what Arcsys's next big game is gonna be. We know they shifted a large portion of the Strive team over to another project, but will it be another FighterZ game? Another Guilty Gear?
its coz they focused more on 3v3 and it has done so much damage. like how 3v3 has ranked and was less buggy than the normal mode on s4 launch. and to make matters worse that game mode is more dead than any other fighting game ever😭😭
as someone whos been waiting for venom literally since day 1 it def sucks but, Im very glad that they are taking their time especially with online and lobbys. I would much rather them have more time to release a better product than venom be underwhelming on launch and still have the online be bad, so honestly this is a win. Man do I wanna finally play venom tho lol
13:35 I disagree with you, not to say I'm upset venom is being delayed because I don't care about venom at all, but I think people totally have the right to get upset at Arcsys for delaying the character. Its not like venom is free, people have paid money in advance to have him and I feel like they should be able to complain about it if they want to. Also I doubt anyone who is mad about the venom delay thinks that Arcsys should just force the developers to work harder, its them getting mad at the company for promising something they couldn't go through with.
devs are people and all but if you paid for the season pass and they delayed the character that THEY announced at a certain date, after deploying one of the most rushed buggy patches ever, you might be kinda annoyed lol
Please, I hope they don't add ranked modes. Maybe just revamp the tower slightly, for balance, but, as seen fron many other games, creating a ranked mode as a separate thing is bound to create toxicity.
@ckorp666 Having two separate modes, one that the public is going to regard as "the one for sweats" and the other one for "casuals", just doesn't seem like a good idea. It isn't in the interest of arcsys or us as the player base to be divided into groups like that. If it isn't just an adjusted tower, how would the ranked mode differ from the tower? Now that I look at it, I might have interpreted your words wrong, or not. What I'm saying in that case is that the toxicity issue is going to be much worse if arcsys goes with the separate modes as opposed to just changing the current thing.
@ "ranked" implies a standard matchmaking system where you queued up, get placed in the single pool of everyone queueing up, and get matched w/someone in ur region with similar ELO, instead of dealing with the exhausting, buggy chore of getting a match in tower where the floor system fails as an ELO replacement. i don't blame you for not knowing that implication, it's not a descriptive term, but thats what ppl mean
3v3 was highly anticipated and was in the works for like a year? This criticism doesn't make sense with how far out they needed to develop the mode and the general anticipation from the playerbase. Even though the beta's it was looked at fairly favorably as a new mode to try. Hindsight is 20/20, so to speak
@@uniquename6925 the betas were anticipated because people thought they would, in the end, make a good tag game like arc sys has done in the past multiple times. but they made it way too unconventional and a hassle to play: -no ability to control a team of 3 by yourself, -skills, -shared life bar, etc the community TOLD them these features sucked and they still rolled out the mode the way they did, the result is that its dead now. had they just organized the development of this mode better the game would leverage more out of it, retaining a bigger playerbase until the development of the next character was complete
@ i said they spent time on it and it came out as bad as it did spend this long on it if it at least is gonna come out good and adjacent to the community feedback whats so hard to understand seriously
@@uniquename6925 No, what they're saying is that the changes everyone has been rightfully yelling at ArcSys to make is what the mode should have just been in the first place which would also very likely take less time to develop so yes, their criticisms are right
venom is too busy cooking to fight for our amusement
It's incredibly funny that this statement is both literal and figurative simultaneously.
(Baking)
man's got a husband to provide for
make me a lava cake
he has a husband to provide for
Honestly I’m glad they’re taking their time. Season 4 should’ve been delayed in the first place so the patch and dizzy had a bit more time to cook.
No way, they're reworking stuff to also add his wife robo-ky into the moveset
It’s a little sad that the new charecter is delayed but I find it understandable given them time to work things out and such I just hope things don’t get too delayed
Says March
I looked at the Japanese. The word they use for online changes is 改修 which means 'repair/improvement' which might indicate very small changes or only reliability improvements. Seems like we aren't going to get a ranked and probably just some under the hood bug fixes.
For training mode, it's much more clear that they are adding 'something' to it. What that is, I don't know. All they say is it's based on player feedback, so fingers crossed it's a frame bar at last.
More functional servers would be a godsend
considering how long we've had an open source frame meter mod chillin there on github, one would hope
Now imagine if they didn't make a mode that died within a week of release and we got the network updates at the start of the season.
That 3v3 shi was a totalwaste of everyones time
I came back this season and I had fun with 3v3, it was silly and casual, but I don't think most in the FGC wants a casual game?
@@terry.1428 Mode would've succeeded if it was similar to MvC
I still hold hopes one day they'll just turn it into a 2v2/3v3 with individual health bars, but I know its a vain hope.
@@aqueleRu Mostly it's just not worth it - and was a needless update since announcement. The Tower system is extremelly flawed, the balance update had come out with many bugs, and even then there's the big issue of it being a mode that needs SIX PEOPLE to queue up in a fighting game. Not only the gamemode was fated to struggle with finding players, but also now the netcode needs to deal with six people instead of two.
It's okay.
With Dizzy coming to the Switch version of Strive for free, I can patiently wait.
I'm glad they're taking their time to make sure he's dogshit bottom 1.
I can imagine how stressful the dev team has been feeling ever since season 4 first dropped, but it really is appreciated that they're taking their time to drop Venom in the best condition and to also address both the abysmal rank system that is Towers and the kind of lacking training mode.
This is kind of a weird opinion I have, but I actually hope they do this type of character + QoL update pack with Unika or Lucy but instead with single player stuff (somewhat reanimated story mode, cutscenes for arcade mode, return of M.O.M mode, etc). I see it as the only glaring issue with Strive if the Venom update does a good job tackling the online problems. The aspect of the game's development that got hit the hardest by covid and quarantine, and i hope they add more to it even if it delays the characters by a few weeks or so.
LET THEM COOK 🗣🔥
We been complaining about rushed updates so nobody should be mad
I will never ever get over how this man pronounces the word "Guilty" as "Gilly"
Happy seeing them take their time a bit now! I was worried that their work was catching up to them a bit seeing how rushed season 4 was, and I don't want a "Pokemon situation" for Guilty Gear, where holding up their schedule would make quality control harder and harder.
Can't wait to see how the rest of season 4 continues if they get the time they need to flesh out the game the way they wanna!
Venom's theme song better be even more of a banger after making us wait for this long
NOOOOOOO💔
Im so sorry for your loss
It’s a good decision but still disappointing
With how often ArcSys has said they'll release something, only to push it off to the last possible date where it's technically true but barely....I fully expected Venom to come out on whatever the last possible day of "Early 2025" equaled. Just like I fully expect Unika to come out on whatever the last day of Spring is...which is almost 3 full weeks into June.
Can't be disappointed if my expectations are low, right?
They can delay all they want if they're actually working on matchmaking and frame data. If what we get is a new floor in the tower and anything but frame data, I may lose my mind though.
@@unrighteous8745 celestial 2: auras only
I hope with the push back they will be able to get him on switch around they same time as his normal release
Honestly i am so sorry gor the dev's crunch hell they're 100% going through
I just want network improvements and balance updates. Delayed characters dont break my heart.
I would pick Jam over Venom any day of the week.
I miss the old input lists for certain characters.
Is this really a surprise? they cant even get the digital figures for DLC on the same day despite them already having the key frames.
The only people surprised are the people who bought a season pass and never played dizzy.
You say that like dizzy is at all interesting right now
I think what this really means is that Arcsys is really working on something else (like another licensed fighter) if they really lack the time and manpower to make a single character on this schedule. Which is okay!
they are definetly understaffed so theyre stalling. it could be felt at the start of seaosn 4, and i cna feel it now.... i cant believe how people dont see it
Calling it now. Venoms not coming out. He's gonna get replaced with robo ky and I get to have fun again.
yeah, as things go right now it feels like ArcSys are tired of the game and its issues, and they already lost a lot of players for the last couple months. So I would not expect S5 be a thing, they might work on something potentially. Maybe BB revival?
Goated for emphasizing not being a dick. 🐐
You can already see someone's ping before you can go into a match
What the game doesn't do is snitch on wifi players, which it absolutely should
I'm more curious on what Arcsys's next big game is gonna be. We know they shifted a large portion of the Strive team over to another project, but will it be another FighterZ game? Another Guilty Gear?
8:54 lagless cross country online 3v3 let's go let's go :3
venom along with my want to play strive has been delayed
its coz they focused more on 3v3 and it has done so much damage. like how 3v3 has ranked and was less buggy than the normal mode on s4 launch. and to make matters worse that game mode is more dead than any other fighting game ever😭😭
as someone whos been waiting for venom literally since day 1 it def sucks but, Im very glad that they are taking their time especially with online and lobbys. I would much rather them have more time to release a better product than venom be underwhelming on launch and still have the online be bad, so honestly this is a win. Man do I wanna finally play venom tho lol
13:35 I disagree with you, not to say I'm upset venom is being delayed because I don't care about venom at all, but I think people totally have the right to get upset at Arcsys for delaying the character. Its not like venom is free, people have paid money in advance to have him and I feel like they should be able to complain about it if they want to. Also I doubt anyone who is mad about the venom delay thinks that Arcsys should just force the developers to work harder, its them getting mad at the company for promising something they couldn't go through with.
devs are people and all but if you paid for the season pass and they delayed the character that THEY announced at a certain date, after deploying one of the most rushed buggy patches ever, you might be kinda annoyed lol
nah, im glad they're choosing not to rush the next patch
I’m glad
No, i'm glad because now it wont happen again lol
im not glad
WHAT
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
I hope they redo the matchmaking system especially for 3v3
Instead of delaying him they can put my robo goat in the game instead
I hope they will reveal trailer at least. Or it will be sad
ATP the delay is a good sign ❤
Hopefully forever
shit they better give us a new patch w that character then, they cant seem to fix the game for shit.
Please, I hope they don't add ranked modes. Maybe just revamp the tower slightly, for balance, but, as seen fron many other games, creating a ranked mode as a separate thing is bound to create toxicity.
@@T4nkE-ng1ne ppl are already weird and toxic about tower, might as well give us functional matchmaking too
@ckorp666 Having two separate modes, one that the public is going to regard as "the one for sweats" and the other one for "casuals", just doesn't seem like a good idea. It isn't in the interest of arcsys or us as the player base to be divided into groups like that.
If it isn't just an adjusted tower, how would the ranked mode differ from the tower?
Now that I look at it, I might have interpreted your words wrong, or not. What I'm saying in that case is that the toxicity issue is going to be much worse if arcsys goes with the separate modes as opposed to just changing the current thing.
@ "ranked" implies a standard matchmaking system where you queued up, get placed in the single pool of everyone queueing up, and get matched w/someone in ur region with similar ELO, instead of dealing with the exhausting, buggy chore of getting a match in tower where the floor system fails as an ELO replacement. i don't blame you for not knowing that implication, it's not a descriptive term, but thats what ppl mean
@ckorp666 gotcha
noooo
i just want Lucy brah.... idk who to main atp, im just Lucy waiting room this shit😪😪😪😪💔
Surprise! Broken game is still broken
Poison free for now
dude, you can't have your face cut in 2/3 of length for most of the video
Good let them make him better
🐴
I only bought the pass for venom very disappointing.
and the question still stands
why did they waste their time and resources with that trash 3v3 mode
3v3 was highly anticipated and was in the works for like a year?
This criticism doesn't make sense with how far out they needed to develop the mode and the general anticipation from the playerbase. Even though the beta's it was looked at fairly favorably as a new mode to try.
Hindsight is 20/20, so to speak
@@uniquename6925 the betas were anticipated because people thought they would, in the end, make a good tag game like arc sys has done in the past multiple times. but they made it way too unconventional and a hassle to play:
-no ability to control a team of 3 by yourself,
-skills,
-shared life bar, etc
the community TOLD them these features sucked and they still rolled out the mode the way they did, the result is that its dead now.
had they just organized the development of this mode better the game would leverage more out of it, retaining a bigger playerbase until the development of the next character was complete
@@lagc5103 You are asking for more development and more changes to 3v3, while also criticizing them for spending too much time on it....
@ i said they spent time on it and it came out as bad as it did
spend this long on it if it at least is gonna come out good and adjacent to the community feedback
whats so hard to understand seriously
@@uniquename6925 No, what they're saying is that the changes everyone has been rightfully yelling at ArcSys to make is what the mode should have just been in the first place which would also very likely take less time to develop so yes, their criticisms are right
when i look at unica and lucy and know that they are the reason i still dont have jam it makes me wanna vomit.
This is homophobic i think