5 Things We HATE About Our 2024 Audi RS3!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 เม.ย. 2024
- 👋 Here is the inevitable video of things we hate about our brand new 2024 Audi RS3! After a few months of ownership with the newest generation 8Y Audi RS3, my wife and I do have some complaints with the car. If you are looking to buy a new RS3, overall it's a really fun car, but there are some parts to this car that I wish were better and possibly could deter a future buyer. So here are the top 5 things about the new Audi RS3 that we hate!
The steering feel is the biggest thing. Even in RS Performance mode the RS3 steering never really tightens up that much. It also doesn't feel that direct. It's a variable steering rack that adjusts depending on speed and angle, but I just don't like it. Feels very electronic rather than mechanical. Honestly this is the biggest thing that would make me not want to own this car. With the RS3, I realize now how much I love a car that steers incredibly direct. You just don't get that with this car unfortunately. It has improved with the lowering springs and wheel spacers. But the steering just needs to be improved from factory.
Using cruise control is a nice feature to have on long trips. Normally you can easily speed up or down in increments of 5. The RS3 cruise control stalk is very sensitive and you just have to hold it while it goes by 5. However it goes so fast that you can hardly time it right and you'll end up increasing your speed by 20 or 30 mph when you are trying to go up by 10.
The rev hang is weird in this car. If you floor it in comfort mode, it downshifts and stays in a high RPM for a very long time. You'd think in comfort it'd always try to upshift. But this car is very on its toes and feels pretty aggressive even when in comfort mode.
sing the paddle shifters is fun, but you always get the sense that this car is still taking over. It won't upshift in RS Performance mode which is nice. But it downshifts very aggressive on its own even when in manual. Other drive modes it will up shift for you. So I'd like a bit more control with the paddles. Lastly the grille is huge! Stock stance it looks a bit odd. But now lowered with a wider stance, the car looks so much better and your eye is now drawn to the fenders rather than the grille. So overall there truly are some aspects of the RS3 we don't like. If this was my specific car, I probably would buy a BMW M2 over this. However my wife likes Audi, wants a 4 door car and AWD. So this for her is the ideal car and has more pros over the competition.
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I’ve owned one since Nov ‘22 and I think the rev hang in comfort mode when you floor it is due to the car’s overall set up being aggressive. Keeping you in higher revs for a while as you’ve just floored it is the car thinking that you may do it again, it wants to be ready as your previous input was aggressive. As an RS model, it should be this way.
Yeah it definitely is. I expect that in Dynamic mode and Performance mode. But you'd think comfort mode the car would chill out. In my GTR, race mode was crazy aggressive. But in normal mode it tried to relax quicker. I'd odd to take 30 seconds for the car to finally upshift after flooring especially in comfort mode.
I've got a BMW X3M competition and my car does the exact same. Even with the transmission in the least aggressive setting, if I get on it, those RPM's are going to hang for a while before it shifts. I honestly wish it weren't like this. My Scatpack charger I had a while back had the same ZF 8 speed transmission as the X3 and it's behavior/programming, etc was much much better. Super relaxed in normal mode but really fast in sport mode.
@@FastRedPonyCar Yeah I wish comfort mode was more relaxed. Even in my GTR, with the transmission in Save mode, it was very tame. Normal mode was what you’d expect. And Race mode would stay in high rpm for a long time. So it’d be nice if I could tune the modes a bit better. It already stays aggressive in Dynamic and Performance mode. So you’d think comfort would relax
I think your car is a Tesla Model 3, dude, not an Audi RS3. You are more worried about the smoothness of a freaking beast such as an RS3. Your car is definitely a Tesla Model 3.
Did you not listen the the video? But you'd think in comfort mode the car could relax. My R35 GTR would tone down a lot in the conservative drive mode. RS3 is always on its toes. Makes sense to be like that in the performance modes. But comfort mode you'd think would calm down
Having a true Manual with a third peddle would no question eliminate all those issues with “Manual mode”. This is the only reason I haven’t invested in an RS3.
Yeah obviously since you would have to shift 100% of the time being a manual transmission. The BMW M2 is the best alternative to the RS3 if you want the manual. th-cam.com/video/ItiFiS6vdiY/w-d-xo.html
Have you considered swapping out the plastic rear end links? I've heard it helps alleviate the floaty feeling you were describing. It would be really cool to see a back to back drive and hear your impressions on whether it made a difference or not.
I'm considering the front end links since the stock one look flimsy. I didn't know the rears were plastic. That would definitely be cool to check out!
Have you checked the tire pressures in the RS3? In the winter time (cold weather) the tire pressures drop quite a bit. Low tire pressure will lead to numb steering feel.
Yes I've made sure it was what the door jam says it should be. From what owners are saying, swaybars and new endlinks help out a ton!
I’m in Colorado. Haven’t had any issues yet.
Any mods for that sound? Or just stock intake, exhaust.
Beautiful car, mini V10
I had tyhe AWE exhasut in this video. Now I've added midpipes. Sounds amazing! Check out our channel for more RS3 videos. Made a full one on the current exhaust setup
Kinda sounds like it has a turbo flatter too🔥🔥🔥
@@lesedimpomane_sa929 yeah it sounds good!
I love my S3 Facelift, but i really hate the manual mode not beeng actual manual mode too. My car even upshifts for me, so i can not have fun all the way to the red line 😢
I know this can be fix with the DSG tune and i will someday do that.
I have heard lots of positive feedback about the TVS Engineering TCU and ECU tunes so i will go that route.
That 5 cylinder sound, amazing!
Yeah I've heard good things about tuning on them! We would have done that on our old S3, but didn't make sense to mess with it since we had this coming. So could be a great rout to go for you! And as more tuning comes out for the RS3 I'll definitely look into more options to dial it in!
I agree with your comments regarding the dominance of the front grille and because of this, I chose Daytona Grey so the grille looks better integrated into the whole car.
That's a nice color! After lowering the car it looks amazing now. But the stock ride high it really stood out. Didn't think the springs and spacers would have such a big impact
Do. you think the blue is more well liked by the public or the Kemora gray?
Not too sure. My wife loves blue so thats what we bought. The gray looks good too
I think the reason that trans is downshifting automatically for you is so you don't bog/stall out the engine being in way too high of a gear for the speed. All the automatic cars I've had seem to do the same thing, unless you're referring to something else? Great video btw :)
It is. However normally after you floor it and let off the car will upshift and go back to normal in a second or two. This takes like 20 seconds to realize you aren't driving aggressive anymore
@@BrosFOURRSpeedYeah I can understand your concern there, but downshifting from being too low in the rev range seems normal.
And here are 5 thing I love about your car:
1- The sound 🎶
2- The turbo sound 🔥
3- The color 💙
4- Those big red calipers ❤️
5- Wheels look sooooooo good!!
I am saving to finally buy one, Thank you so much for the details.
Nice! Here's my full video on 5 things I love th-cam.com/video/kKOXyQvPVG8/w-d-xo.html
Great car overall!
@BrosFOURRSpeed Super sweet!! I love the video. That is an absolutely amazing car. You are kinda making me unpacient about getting one jaja, can't wait! Thanks for the reviews about the RS3. That totally helps on what to expect when getting one.
@@marcoslopez6030 😅😅 Definitely a fun car to get! You’ll enjoy it!
Bought my 24’ RS3 w/ 1400m on it. Performance is insane. Quick af. The only issue I’ve had is the front brake squeal. It happens when I’m at slow speeds gradually breaking to a stop. Very annoying. Dealership has told me “it’s normal”. After the third time I’ve brought it in, they soaked the pads and told me it’ll be fine for up to 6 months. I can deal with that but I hope it’s not a temporary bandaid.
To your point about the grill…idk why you’re hating? That grill is absolute 🔥 Should have got the black optic package instead of the blue🖤🖤🖤
Have you messed around with the torque settings. You can send more torque to the rear wheels. That will eliminate some of the torque steering. Also, in comfort mode can you use the + paddle shifter to eliminate the rev hang?
Yeah hitting the paddles will let you be able to just upshift. But it'd still be nice if it drove more relaxed in comfort mode. Not much different as far as transmission aggressiveness in the performance mode. I''ve played with the RS Torque Rear mode. Doesn't feel much different to be honest
so you want it stall if your in 4th coming to complete stop?
Obviously no. It just drives very aggressive in comfort mode. You'd think that mode will let the car drive normal and relaxed. I expect Dynamic and Performance mode to be aggressive. My old GTR in the basic transmission mode drove like a typical car. But in Race mode the transmission would stay aggressive. So it would be nice if Comfort mode wasn't as aggressive as it is. Isn't that the whole point of drive modes?
Watched all your videos, as i have one on order.
Oh sweet! Definitely a fun car overall!
@BrosFOURRSpeed I think the steering feel is a combination of a few things. From what you described it sounds like you want the steering wheel input to move the car to the left and the right faster. I do think the design of the steering feel was to be a little less quick to pull to the left and right without larger adjustments in steering wheel movement. Audi probably did this so the car would have less chance of getting twitchy at high speeds and it would be easier for people with less steering control to drive safer, faster, especially over rough roads.
It has a wider track width from tire to tire than the rear which will make it feel like the front is leading and the back is following. This was the best way to keep grip on the front wheels and maximize grip in corners. It also lets the rear end rotate around faster.
The wider tires on the front might have something to do with it as well. It is sending 50% power up front and to the rear at all times though. I find when I drive mine in a slow curve letting off the gas lets the car turn in more and then getting back on the gas lets the rear diff oversteer the outside wheel to push me around the corner. It is a lot of technology doing work behind the curtains like a well orchestrated symphony, which is a beautiful thing, but also why old, raw, sports cars are also cool. Different strokes for different folks really and there are lots of cool cars out there to choose from.
Maybe aftermarket wheels with good offset and wider rear tires will help.
It's unsettling at high speeds tho. You start to turn and then the car turns faster or slower then you anticipate. So it's hard to judge how much input is needed in fast turns. I want it more direct. I've heard people say doing a square setup helps a ton as well. Probably just match the rear tires to the front. Lots of good mods to do to keep making the car better. So far the springs, spacers and exhaust woke up this car a ton!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed not sure if you said this in the video but a good alignment, especially after putting on springs, will make a big difference too.
Regarding the cruise control, my other car is an '17 Alltrack. Holding the cruise control lever raises the setting in 5 MPH increments like you said. I discovered the RS3 doesn't work that way when I held the lever and the next thing I knew, the car was exceeding 90 mph. In comfort mode. Now I just bump it 1 MPH at a time. Not a big deal.
Yeah it goes in 5mph increments. It just goes so fast you have to really watch it or you'll be going 90 in no time. Really wish there was some tactile feedback like my Supra to go 5 at a time. I hardly use cruise tho in the car anyways and normally I get to my speed and set it to where I am.
I love the headlights. I am not liking the throttle response. At times the car hesitates, especially when I floor it. I love the radio. I don't like the flimsy sunroof shade. My tint guy wouldn't tint it, so I bought airplane stick on tints for pilots. I don't like the audi sense. I turn it off. I do like the exhaust sound, even though its not as loud as mustangs and challengers. The car looks better in person. Cant see all the angles on camera. What's the difference between Dynamic and performance mode? Why all the drive modes when the car is always on edge like you said. Have to use the manual shifter if in performance cruising slow through the neighborhood to get the car in second gear.
Good points. I don't feel much of a difference in Dynamic vs Performance. We only use Comfort, Individual and Performance.
Everyone already covered the shifting stuff, but honestly that cruise control thing made me LOL. Drives me crazy when companies do things as small as that wrong because it just annoys you every time you drive it.
Great video, my 8y will not rev match on downshifts while I’m in manual mode, it will only do it if I leave it in auto (S). In manual mode it will downshift only when the car has slowed enough that it has no choice but to, no rev matching at all.
Oh nice. Yeah this hardly gives you a chance to downshift when hitting the brakes hard before it does it for you. My GTR would only downshift when you got closer to 1k rpm while slowing down
Rev hang in Drive mode is normal, if it does upshift early and you apply trottle again, it will take time to downshift again... After all you are downshifting for a reason - to overtake for example, and downsifts in Drive mode generally being slow (and comfortable) , preserving the clutch(es), pulling the + buttun with the finger sorts that out ( going to M mode ). I got caught out with the cruise control too, Manual mode is fine, it depends what you want to do - I rarelu use full rev range if not in performance mode - there is enough torque till 5000 rpm and enauhg gears to get me trough.... RS mode suits me fine with the quick downshifts. Steering is well weighted for a car that has decend comfort mode/s and it is a compromise compared to M3 ( that has a totally different drivetrain configuration )
My 8y never down shifts in manual mode till you come to a stop my 8y never has done down shifts in manual mode like yours did???
You'd think they'd all be the same
I always think a tranny that does engine braking means it’s an exceptionally tuned tranny. My 12 mazda 3 does it too and it’s really helpful to aide braking. Also with the turbos they keep you in the power band.
The only thing you forgot: can’t get the hatch body style in the US lol.
I love my A3 2017 and the look it has. makes me feel secure going above 120.
I’m considering buying a RS3 but more personalized to be a weekend car in that beautiful violet color with all black, speed governor removed in the option from Audi.
Nice! Great car to pick up for sure!
The rev hang I am so used to now, its not a big deal. I just drive with paddles and down shift like crazy!
Yeah just would be nice for the car to relax more in comfort mode. I mostly drive with the shifters. Wonder if a tune could adjust the modes more
If you dont like the factory ecu/tcu, you could always get it tuned to your preference. Especially for the comfort mode
Yeah that could be something to do at some point
My biggest two are jank shifts in slow speeds or traffic. Also there is a hill assist or something, when I stop on a steep hill it seems to stop for me and feels like i am stalling(this makes me more mad and makes me think something is wrong). But if you let off the brake peddle it holds. This isn't a manual car, like why is that a thing.
Yeah lots of autos seem to have a hill start these days. Makes you think the brakes are on for a second
With your first complaint, my A4's DCT does the same thing. It is annoying, especially when I floor it.
Yeah I'd like it to be able to get tuned out or something
I picked up a 2023 RS5 Sportback. So far I'm enjoying it.
Nice! We like that car a lot and could be a car to get after the RS3 if this car becomes too small for our needs
I'm going to have to disagree after seeing and test driving the new M2! I find the RS3 to have much better steering, and the car is just way more raw and fun with the DCT, and that epic 5 cylinder!
Really? Definitely different taste then. The M2 steering is heavier tho. The DCT in the RS3 feels more raw than the 8spd for sure. But the S58 packs more top end with the twin turbo. Very similar cars in many ways tho!
@BrosFOURRSpeed The M2 steering is way too numb and has a really heavy feel, and it doesn't like to come back around on its own after turning the wheel like other cars! Your car maybe has something wrong with the steering because I find it really good! I'm amazed you like the M2 better!! Don't care about the top end on the streets, honestly, because the RS3 is ridiculously fast stock!
I got rid of every comfort feature on my car lol
I put kw v3 magnetic adjustable coilovers, but yea i can adjust the stiffness but since my car is lowered, it will rub in certain situations
I also have a dog bone mount
Lol so it just a lot more nvh
Btw that is just how the car is tuned from factory lol
I liked it cause when you're slowing down in high rpm that's when your really hear the 5pot
I don't like that round steering wheel vs the Alcantara flat bottom though
And i like having a shift knob
Other than that the new rs3 is superb
Yeah it's a great car overall! I just wish the steering was tighter in performance mode and would like comfort mode to calm down a bit more. Other then that, solid car!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed do u think the car is overall better than the last gen 8v?
Downshift 3->2 in sport mode is terrible unless you stop hard, otherwise its like a mule kick. The rev hanging is dumb and needs a tune.
Glad you had to really reach to find things....means it's a great car! Enjoy!
Yeah just nit picky stuff. Very cool car overall!
I know the feeling. I have a 2022 TTRS in Turbo blue.
Once the 8y has been unlocked there’s no doubt a tune will take care of the rev hang. Same for manual mode
Yeah it'd be nice to really make each drive mode different for how the transmission reacts.
I must admit that some of those shifts made me cringe a bit! That seems like the biggest kryptonite when accelerating but you're right, no car is perfect but you just take the good with the bad.
Sounds good shifting tho
These little things don’t both me at all I love that car! And will be getting one relatively soon
Yeah really nothing crazy bad about the car! Amazing sporty sedan!
Steering feel is defienitely the downside of the MQB platform. Every GTI, R, GLI, RS3, S3, A3 all are very front wheel drive biased so you get that front steering with the rear following feel unfortunately.
Yeah definitely not a fan. Was much better feeling on the S3 tho. I think the extra power and different more fancy steering makes this a bit vague
Just drive it on Auto mode or Manual all the time ( this is what I do all the time and what I recommend )
Yeah I primarily drive it in manual mode and RS Performance. Still would be nice if Comfort mode chilled out a bit
Nobody talks about but everybody I know with an Audi experiences this no matter the model. False positive emergency braking. You are backing up and nothing is there. Bone jarring braking for no reason. Did I just run over a kid? Maybe they have changed this but I have sworn off Audi’s because of this flaw and know others who have done the same.
I've never had that in this car. My old automatic Supra did that a few times to me until I shut it off. But the RS3 never has done it.
My 22 toyota venza did that once backing up, almost shit maself!
Dude you are car reviewer its an rs so it will have rev hand buy s series for comfort
Yeah I wish like my R35 GTR, it could tone down more in comfort mode like my GTR did. In Performance mode it should stay aggressive. But it's annoying how comfort mode stays very aggressive
I’ll take it if you don’t want it 🤷🏻♂️
We love it! Just going over some things to point out, but not enough to want to sell it. No car is going to be 100% perfect. Very minor.
I was trying decide to either buy this or 2024 BMW M2. I ended up getting the M2. Great video.
M2 is amazing! I plan on buying an M2 in the future to have next to this. Personally I'd rather have the M2 since the steering is better and the S58 packs more top end. But it comes down to if you want a DCT and AWD, or the RWD and a manual option. M2 and RS3 I'd say are both top level performance cars at this price range. Can't go wrong. My wife likes this more then the M2 so this works for her lol
I've seriously heard the steering is its biggest flaw from multiple sources and myself after taking a test drive lol! It's literally the one real complaint I have with bimmers in general, especially this M2!! Your thoughts after buying one?
If you want a docile car, buy a Prius. Would you expect anything different than the RS3 does downshifting ?😂
What's the point of drive mode that 'effect' the transmission, but the trans still is aggressive in comfort mode. Shouldn't comfort mode actually tone down the car? Dynamic and Performance mode makes sense to be aggressive. But it would be nice to relax more when in the mode called Comfort. BMW M3 and R35 GTR both can relax a lot in their comfort modes. Should the RS3 do the same?
Bro's comparing a Nissan R35 GTR to an Audi Sedan.
I own both, so I can talk about that if I want too. There are several characteristics of the RS3 that feel like the GTR. Did you own a GTR or RS3?
The moment you called that rev hang is when I stopped watching. 🤷♂️
Why? Like I mentioned in the video, it's not that it's actual rev hang like in a manual. But I was referring to it as sort of rev hang to help explain what it was doing. Perhaps you should use the context clue in my wording to understand the point I was making
Have you checked the tire pressures in the RS3? In the winter time (cold weather) the tire pressures drop quite a bit. Low tire pressure will lead to numb steering feel.
Yes I've made sure it was what the door jam says it should be. From what owners are saying, swaybars and new endlinks help out a ton!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed If you drive on mostly smooth roads, you can get away with running larger swaybars and polyurethane bushings! Where I live, the roads look like they have been carpet-bombed! Larger swaybars and poly bushings will require that you wear a kidney belt!
Interesting. I'd probably stick with just thick rubber bushings. But the bit thicker bars I think on our roads would be good. NC isn't too bad lol
@@BrosFOURRSpeed It just occured to me that I owe you an appology, regarding installing larger swaybars and poly bushings on your Audi! Your Audi and my Datsun are 51-years apart, regarding suspension technology! The swaybar endlinks on my car are fastened to the lower A-arms. Hence the jarring ride. The Audi's swarbar endlinks are bolted to the side of the strut-bodies. Much more civilized ride!