I bought 5x 12TB Seagate Exos Recertified, from them. I live in Canada, so, at the border it got hit with duties. But even with shipping AND duties AND currency conversion it was still cheaper than buying a new (or 5 new) drives. And yes, their shipping is freaking INCREDIBLE!
That's where I bought my 23 TB drives from. WORKS AMAZING! Was able to consolidate all my 23 drives of data from all the way back to 2003 on up to 2024. AND I STILL HAD SPACE LEFT! And this point, its saving up for a tape drive so I can get all my data backed up to cold storage for the long haul. But with how CHEAP these drives are? I can buy spares, and just make multiple copies and not worry to much about it as the O.G. tapes last for quite a bit since they are almost all data grade.
I just ordered from these guys a couple months ago, great customer service. Learned about them from some dude on reddit. They got the drives out right after the hurricane too.
The biggest issues I've run into out of SPD has been a batch of Exos X16 16TB drives. Started with 10 drives, 2 DOA, replaced 4 more within the 2 year warranty, including one that was an RMA drive already. I blame that on that series of drives though. My X18 drives and WD DC5xx drives have had zero failures. I'll go back to them again next time I need to upgrade.
At first I thought, yes! That's a lot of porn. Finally, enough to wank for the rest of my life. Then I did some simple math, 28GB VR files, 4TB downloaded/month times X months, carry the one... I've already downloaded and deleted at least 330TB of porn.. ..the hunt continues.
@@FGC_Jules to be quite honest with both of you i don't think a conventional computer or even supercomputer has the computational power to even estimate how much porn there is on the internet.
At my job we're probably moving offices & will need a lot more space for the NVR/Camera storage. Since we're always going to have access to the system, I'm running TrueNAS for storage & I'm a huge fan of RAID-Z3 I recommended using recertified drives. If you lose data with RAID-Z3 you either neglected the array for a decent amount of time or there was a disaster on-site. Get 2+ extra drives as well - one for a warm replacement & one for a cold replacement plus monitor report emails and the system will be set.
Thank you Wendell for the heads up on Server Part Deals. i have an old Synology DS1515+ NAS lying around that I could reuse with some serious storage. Have been using a Win 11 box with storage spaces as off site at my studio and a Synology DS1621+ as a replacement for the DS1515+ at home. Hmm time to think where I could deploy the old DS1515+ it irks me leaving it sat doing nothing.
All my NAS drives (16x 12tb) are retired WD/HGST drives from serverpartdeals and other similar places. Never had any issues. Coincidentally I am now using an external HBA inside of a MS-01 connected to a Super Micro JBOD. It's been great!
it’s just that overseas air shipping something like individual mechanical HDDs is something I try to avoid. I doubt those will get handled like ASML machines with their specialized shipping and cargo plane.
So, I just tried using tailscale which you are pushing quite a lot on this channel, I found that it's inferior to zerotier: - You cannot join many tailnets at the same time - You cannot create many tailnets under one account - You cannot automate things as far as I could tell, the joining device gives you a link you have to open in a browser... and then it's bound to the "global account" network - If you were to host your own controller you have to fiddle with "coordination server" address - The coordination server has to be reachable over the open internet - The coordination server needs to be online at all times, in zerotier it's only needed for adding/banning peers in a network and for changing configuration - The flow rules in zertotier look a bit more sane as far as I can tell
Gotta say, I really appreciate you not blaming the delivery person in the intro, but taking a more materialist viewpoint and blaming the very structure of society. The entire delivery business workforce has been reduced to the gig-economy, thus delivery people get paid per delivery rather than making a minimum wage, and in order to reach any sort of liveable income have to reach a certain number of deliveries each hour that is incredibly high. This is exactly the mechanism behind Amazon delivery drivers peeing in plastic bottles, blaming those who are basically doing slave labour is just sad to me.
Thanks for the video. What I am trying to find out is size of a format shift tv show from DVD. TV show 1 hour long 1080p 24fps plus good 5.1 audio, how big is this 1 hour show. With the info then can find out how big a storage system I would need. With the 15 x 22 tb drives and just storing movies and tv how many hours could you store on that system with a 2 drive redundancy, using this would just build a second as a back up.
my new seagate 6tb hard drive failed after a year, I sent it to seagate and they sent me a recertified drive which has run without problems since 2021. I would argue recertified drives are more reliable at least in my limited experience with them.
I'm not following the ZFS VDEV layout @ 15:00. At 15:10 Wendell says "four RAIDZ1 VDEVs". That would only utilize 12 of the fifteen disks, leaving three unutilized/spare? Then at 15:20 he says "Four drives...three drives of capacity RAIDZ1...and then you have a hot spare." This sounds like it's four disks per VDEV with one hot spare each? Then at 15:50 he says "With four VDEVs the performance is really good. You're giving up four plus one drives worth of capacity." I'm not sure if something was lost in the edit here, but instructions unclear. Now fork is in my VDEV, and my AI DeVito has broken free from his pen.
I made a plex (plus) server running unraid. 4 (were new 8tb reds), 4 server part deals 20tb recerts (they could only be 18ish months old at the time). Now I feel like it's too small.
In your schematic, you show the storage as tb and gb and the speed of the switch as 10gb. People confuse these things all the time, why not use the correct units? i.e. GB and TB and Gb
What kind of HBA do you use for your MS01? I have ordered 6 16TB SAS Drives. Now I need a LSI Disk Shelf and an HBA for my MS01. Do you know any way to get the HA TrueNAS mode working with normal hardware that is not from iX Systems? I would like to get another MS01 and connect it to the same disk shelf and use the redundant SAS path to the drives.
I use a 9300-8e with a Delta BFB04512HHA 45x45x10 fan via USB, secured to the HBA heatsink with a 3d printed duct. Cooling is absolutely necessary and 15mm is too thick.
When there are no consequences for the rich and elite it is hard to imagine the average man giving a damn, laws and obeying them are a thing of the past, we are in a new world now.
When the coming president is a traitor, a rapist, a fraudster, an insurrectionist... and he got zero days in prison and even got re-elected.... america has become a banana republic.
Copyright law hasn't been a fair social contract for a long time. It should still be 28 years, but corporate power put an end to that reasonable deal. I'll respect their rights like they respect mine.
Please please please high pass filter your main mic. Some of us watch this on full range systems and every time something is put on the table or a drive is dropped back in the box my whole place booms. I know. First world problem and all but...... 😊
i would never use a bought used hard drive or ssd drive. and the drives also come from the sponsor which practically means you are shilling them. its like buying snake oil that destroys your data
Thank you serverpartdeals.com for sponsoring this video
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discount code level1techs ftw :D
@@wendelltron Nice!
Nice 😂
5:36 It's the Wendell from the old days!
5:34
Wendell doing his best Home Improvement Wilson cosplay.
I bought 5x 12TB Seagate Exos Recertified, from them. I live in Canada, so, at the border it got hit with duties. But even with shipping AND duties AND currency conversion it was still cheaper than buying a new (or 5 new) drives.
And yes, their shipping is freaking INCREDIBLE!
That's where I bought my 23 TB drives from. WORKS AMAZING! Was able to consolidate all my 23 drives of data from all the way back to 2003 on up to 2024. AND I STILL HAD SPACE LEFT!
And this point, its saving up for a tape drive so I can get all my data backed up to cold storage for the long haul.
But with how CHEAP these drives are? I can buy spares, and just make multiple copies and not worry to much about it as the O.G. tapes last for quite a bit since they are almost all data grade.
I just ordered from these guys a couple months ago, great customer service. Learned about them from some dude on reddit. They got the drives out right after the hurricane too.
The biggest issues I've run into out of SPD has been a batch of Exos X16 16TB drives. Started with 10 drives, 2 DOA, replaced 4 more within the 2 year warranty, including one that was an RMA drive already. I blame that on that series of drives though. My X18 drives and WD DC5xx drives have had zero failures. I'll go back to them again next time I need to upgrade.
330TB ... you can almost download like 0.0001% of the porn on the internet.
At first I thought, yes! That's a lot of porn. Finally, enough to wank for the rest of my life.
Then I did some simple math, 28GB VR files, 4TB downloaded/month times X months, carry the one... I've already downloaded and deleted at least 330TB of porn.. ..the hunt continues.
Thats a very very high overestimation, at least 10 more 0s are needed
@@FGC_Jules to be quite honest with both of you i don't think a conventional computer or even supercomputer has the computational power to even estimate how much porn there is on the internet.
@@llortaton2834 the only thing that grows at a faster rate than an ackermann function
5:40 it's the neighbor from Home Improvement
iirc Allen Jude and friends say draid should start ~24-36 drives.
Holy, that Icedock is something else.
I have a bunch of drives from SPD (14TB Exos) and they have been great. They have the best packaging, everything is really well protected.
At my job we're probably moving offices & will need a lot more space for the NVR/Camera storage. Since we're always going to have access to the system, I'm running TrueNAS for storage & I'm a huge fan of RAID-Z3 I recommended using recertified drives. If you lose data with RAID-Z3 you either neglected the array for a decent amount of time or there was a disaster on-site. Get 2+ extra drives as well - one for a warm replacement & one for a cold replacement plus monitor report emails and the system will be set.
Thank you Wendell for the heads up on Server Part Deals. i have an old Synology DS1515+ NAS lying around that I could reuse with some serious storage. Have been using a Win 11 box with storage spaces as off site at my studio and a Synology DS1621+ as a replacement for the DS1515+ at home.
Hmm time to think where I could deploy the old DS1515+ it irks me leaving it sat doing nothing.
The 15+ generation has the atom c2000 CPUs that are known to detonate fyi
@@empedance1933 They can be fixed by soldiering a pull-up resistor.
And for a moment I thought it was for "Certifiably Ingame" channel" :)
What? That ICYDock was listed as a concept until recently.
Is this really purchasable now? SUATMM
Just ran out of space on my TruNAS server- you just saved me a ton of $$$ Thanks!!
All my NAS drives (16x 12tb) are retired WD/HGST drives from serverpartdeals and other similar places. Never had any issues. Coincidentally I am now using an external HBA inside of a MS-01 connected to a Super Micro JBOD. It's been great!
Is there a comparable trustworthy seller like Serverpartdeals in Europe?
SPD ship to Europe and they have a DDP option, so you don't have to worry about customs.
They appear to have an ebay store. Seem to be the same company from what I can tell.
it’s just that overseas air shipping something like individual mechanical HDDs is something I try to avoid. I doubt those will get handled like ASML machines with their specialized shipping and cargo plane.
Their customer support is great. Got a dead drive replaced with no hassle
Thanks for the link and the content you madman.
What do you put on that drives? Insane video collection?
A crime against entropy lmao
I'm stealing that!
I too am working on something awesome for all of us but for right now its just for me . Nice
So, I just tried using tailscale which you are pushing quite a lot on this channel, I found that it's inferior to zerotier:
- You cannot join many tailnets at the same time
- You cannot create many tailnets under one account
- You cannot automate things as far as I could tell, the joining device gives you a link you have to open in a browser... and then it's bound to the "global account" network
- If you were to host your own controller you have to fiddle with "coordination server" address
- The coordination server has to be reachable over the open internet
- The coordination server needs to be online at all times, in zerotier it's only needed for adding/banning peers in a network and for changing configuration
- The flow rules in zertotier look a bit more sane as far as I can tell
Gotta say, I really appreciate you not blaming the delivery person in the intro, but taking a more materialist viewpoint and blaming the very structure of society. The entire delivery business workforce has been reduced to the gig-economy, thus delivery people get paid per delivery rather than making a minimum wage, and in order to reach any sort of liveable income have to reach a certain number of deliveries each hour that is incredibly high. This is exactly the mechanism behind Amazon delivery drivers peeing in plastic bottles, blaming those who are basically doing slave labour is just sad to me.
Love Wendells cheesy pop culture references! ❤
Looks like my retronas project is getting a space upgrade.
i JUUUUST yesterday rebult my main ns with 12TB drives but ill only ever use wd or hgst...i got hgst hellium SATA drives used and theyre AWESOME!
Dammit Wendell. You let the secret out. How are we gonna find cheap drives in stock now?? 😅
22TB Exos drives are 7200RPM and run extremely hot. WD 7200RPM drives run even hotter. Not a good choice for a home NAS unless it's A/C cooled.
I also run Docker inside an LXC container on proxmox for the sole purpose of passing specific zfs datasets.
Watching the video to see if there’s a coupon code before I order 4x18tb drives 😅
Wish there was something like that for EU, but I guess they'd have to handle generally a longer warranty.
Unless your DVDs have bitrotted :P
Any chance you can look at the Raspberry PI compute module 5. Seems like it's a next level jump from the Pi4.
Thanks for the video.
What I am trying to find out is size of a format shift tv show from DVD. TV show 1 hour long 1080p 24fps plus good 5.1 audio, how big is this 1 hour show. With the info then can find out how big a storage system I would need. With the 15 x 22 tb drives and just storing movies and tv how many hours could you store on that system with a 2 drive redundancy, using this would just build a second as a back up.
I've been wanting to get some big drives and I don't make too much money. I might want to grab a few, would it be okay to get cold spares too?
my new seagate 6tb hard drive failed after a year, I sent it to seagate and they sent me a recertified drive which has run without problems since 2021. I would argue recertified drives are more reliable at least in my limited experience with them.
I'm thinking of a drinking game serverpartdeals
Hahah a crime against entropy 😂
I'm not following the ZFS VDEV layout @ 15:00. At 15:10 Wendell says "four RAIDZ1 VDEVs". That would only utilize 12 of the fifteen disks, leaving three unutilized/spare? Then at 15:20 he says "Four drives...three drives of capacity RAIDZ1...and then you have a hot spare." This sounds like it's four disks per VDEV with one hot spare each? Then at 15:50 he says "With four VDEVs the performance is really good. You're giving up four plus one drives worth of capacity."
I'm not sure if something was lost in the edit here, but instructions unclear. Now fork is in my VDEV, and my AI DeVito has broken free from his pen.
I may have shoved disk #16 in the back :D
@@Level1Techs lmao outside the lines...NICE I dig it
Very cool!
I checked out their site and most things were more expensive than new! Am I missing something??
I made a plex (plus) server running unraid. 4 (were new 8tb reds), 4 server part deals 20tb recerts (they could only be 18ish months old at the time). Now I feel like it's too small.
What’s that keyboard you got over there in the intro section..?
I was looking at them for a purchase of 14TB drives. Which are more reliable - Ultrastar DC HC530 or Exos X22?
TIL all of youtube was only 40TB in 2005...
So what is a LEVE? I get what LONE TECHS are, but LEVE not so sure?
In your schematic, you show the storage as tb and gb and the speed of the switch as 10gb. People confuse these things all the time, why not use the correct units? i.e. GB and TB and Gb
Wouldnt mdraid at raid10 run far faster ? ZFS is quite the overhead on NVMe IO rates
do seagates still suck with failure rates?
What kind of HBA do you use for your MS01? I have ordered 6 16TB SAS Drives. Now I need a LSI Disk Shelf and an HBA for my MS01.
Do you know any way to get the HA TrueNAS mode working with normal hardware that is not from iX Systems? I would like to get another MS01 and connect it to the same disk shelf and use the redundant SAS path to the drives.
I use a 9300-8e with a Delta BFB04512HHA 45x45x10 fan via USB, secured to the HBA heatsink with a 3d printed duct. Cooling is absolutely necessary and 15mm is too thick.
Wendell, you REALLY went full ADHD here.
And I fucking love it.
Not really a crime against entropy - those drives couldn't event hold the information of the atoms they are made of.
Exciting
ServerPartDeals are GOATs
Anyone know how to get the generic firmware for HUC106060CSS600 so that I can resector them to 520 and used them anywhere
xen dom0
Anyone got a good UK/EU source for refurb-ed hard drives?
When there are no consequences for the rich and elite it is hard to imagine the average man giving a damn, laws and obeying them are a thing of the past, we are in a new world now.
When the coming president is a traitor, a rapist, a fraudster, an insurrectionist... and he got zero days in prison and even got re-elected.... america has become a banana republic.
Copyright law hasn't been a fair social contract for a long time. It should still be 28 years, but corporate power put an end to that reasonable deal. I'll respect their rights like they respect mine.
Please please please high pass filter your main mic.
Some of us watch this on full range systems and every time something is put on the table or a drive is dropped back in the box my whole place booms.
I know. First world problem and all but...... 😊
oooooooo
i would never use a bought used hard drive or ssd drive. and the drives also come from the sponsor which practically means you are shilling them. its like buying snake oil that destroys your data