Ooohh great video bruv. The Accord is usually underpowered compared to the other cars(turbos, bigger engine) but still it puts up a mighty fight, not bad for a NA 4cylinder!
Yeah defs I was quite surprised it kept up aye - especially given this particular caldina had a boost controller that makes it muuuch faster than stock
The ct15b on the 4th gen 3sgte is actually rather small compared to the previous ct series turbos etc ct20b on the 3rd gen 3sgte in a Celica GT4. To get a proper feel for a Caldina you will have to drive manual GT-T. I have one, just hellishly more modifications than just a CAI.
@@KiwiCarLife hopefully be at Clubfest next year when I've finished with the work on my wagon. Come check it out and maybe some others that will be their.
I've got a 2002 GT4 with 190k and i'm now looking for a new car. It has never broke down. all i do is oil change. I'm learning from the posted vids i should just repaint and rebuild my current car because i can't do better.
I have a pretty rare blue lowered NA Caldina similar to that one , I think it's very underrated if you're interested in doing a comparison video, it's only 155hp
I got both in stock & Auto, same colour too lol. In terms of cornering, GT4 N can get around same corner dry or wet without losing even GT4 with a stock 215 vs 225 tyres and 100kg heavier. Both get understeers according to OME's setting, but you can malipulate the toe out and tyre pressure to balance the car to your driving style. I can induce understeers into a corner with CL9 easily but GT4 needs more work. Saying that I can control and hold drift with GT4 when practice on a wet skitpan. Acceleration GT4 should be a bit faster, all depends on the gearing, the 4 tall gearing in GT4 is a problem.
Loving your content man. I'm tossed up between this and an E46 325I, which ironically, you did a side by side with. Slowly starting to veer towards the CL9 though. Question. Do you know if the TXL rear lights from the same gen will fit the CL9?
@@phatness5 cheers, to answer your second question yes the tsx lights are interchangeable. The first question is a tricky one and depends on whether you are getting an auto or a manual. If you get an auto, both will be pretty similar. Both have the same power both look great both have great sounding engines both have 5 speed transmissions with tiptronic. The accord will probably be more reliable though. If you get a manual it depends what you want to do with it. The BMW will naturally be more fun and do more skids but the engine has little tuning capabilities. The Accord by comparison might not be quite as fun as it's front wheel drive however you will be able to make it much faster, much easier. If you were talking manual 325i vs manual accord it's up to you, if you're talking auto vs auto id get the accord
@@KiwiCarLife Awesome! I've found some mad lights on the interwebs for the TSX, and I figured they'd be the same housing, but just wanted to be certain. I'm assuming headlights are the same, minus the difference between the dip on LHD lights being the opposite side, right? Both examples are auto. The Honda also comes with a sunroof, so I was half leaning towards that. It has over 200,000 k's though, whereas the Beemer has 120 XXX.
@@phatness5 hmm OK that changes things more... the accord is reliable but 200,000km is quite a lot... it's up to you man. Drive both and see what you think.
Hey man, with your flow designs kit is there anything at the back of the car? In between the two pipes. Or is it just the pieces on the sides that flick into the rear? I own a tuned Mugen spec cl7 euro r so looking for a Mugen kit to finish the job or something more subtle
Nice man - a mugen cl7 would be cool - and nah it's just the spats by the exhausts on the side. There are other companies that offer diffusers for the middle though
@@KiwiCarLife yea I've looked up J's racing (2k for diffuser alone) and there's Mugen rear lip reps in America for $425 shipped but sorta dont want to go rep as the rest of the stuff is genuine (plus the four month wait for the part) Thanks for clearing that up though!
@@clementlo3576 find me a stock accord euro and I'll do it again. You guys don't seem to understand I can't just pull any car you want out of thin air for a video...
Didn't even knew this car existed. Checked and it's because it was never sold here in Northern Europe. And yeah, I think most people dont understand how important suspension geometry is. And all these modern sportscars with mcpherson struts can throw all the fancy damping electronics at it all they want, it will wash out eventually due to camber angles. These older honda's have grip for days due to the double-wishbone setup if you fit them with less washy coilovers and a set of decent tyres.
Yeah agreed... pretty sure the caldina has strut and multi link. Combine that with average tyres, lsd in the rear, and a front biased drivetrain, it's a recipe for understeer haha
@@KiwiCarLife Just checked, it does have strut front, multi rear. So do 99% of all "sports cars" these days. They just upsell you expensive driving aids, in favor of just simple mechanical grip. Including Honda with their FK8. They either incompetently, or maliciously, forgot how to make competent yet simple fun cars. Which is why their older cars are becoming ridiculously expensive used. S2000 is probably going to be over MSRP soon...
@@The_Noticer. yeah true, but that said, the fk8 as a stock car is one of the best handling fwd cars on the market even with strut suspension. So it can work, but double wishbone definitely takes better to mods
@@KiwiCarLife I know, I just can't decide what to do with mine. It's a CU1, which has great handling but i'm less impressed with the drivetrain. The 5speed automatic is spaced out too far and the torque of the 2liter while decent gets ruined by the gearing. I haven't decided whether to just sell it and look in Germany for a 2.4 with MT (CU2), or turbocharge my CU1. I just don't know what the automatic transmission can take in terms of torque and noone seems to know it either..
Can you review a Mitsubishi FTO theres, FTO group is getting bigger here in Auckland. You will gain a lot more followers if you do bro, good job with this video though.
I just bought new high performance sport tires for my gt4 a while ago, massive difference this thing eats hills and corners all day, the gt4 tested in video definitely could benefit from a set🤣👌
Caldina GT4 3SGTE 2.0L AWD 191KW. Standard Honda Accord K24A makes 147KW with 6 Speed Manual lol. On a straight standstill race Caldina GT4 with AWD would launch right off the line mate it's a win 👍
@@KiwiCarLife in a role race I would brake boost built up boost then off I go mate don't forget Stock Honda Accord CL7 K24 are NA Non Turbo they got nothing on Turbo Caldina GT4 in the first place mate. Both sucks on track race with corner turns hence why I prefer my RWD Lexus IS300 2JZGE & Toyota Altezza RS200 3SGE BEAMS so i can swing outside 😁. Good Track car would be the FK Type R but they get gapped by the Dual Clutch Volkswagen R & Nissan Z in still & role race mate facts 💯
@@JohnyChhy Nice man - I'll be heading up to Auckland sometime before the end of the year to pick up some new wheels and get a road tune so could potentially tee up a time to film something while I'm up there. Hit me up on insta @kiwicarlife.yt if u want
You are the reason I like the accord man
Haha cheers man
Ooohh great video bruv. The Accord is usually underpowered compared to the other cars(turbos, bigger engine) but still it puts up a mighty fight, not bad for a NA 4cylinder!
Yeah defs I was quite surprised it kept up aye - especially given this particular caldina had a boost controller that makes it muuuch faster than stock
I know right, for that big of a power different it really held its own against the Caldina on the Motor Way
Greetings from across the ditch. Been driving my Accord Euro for 17 years now.
Great vid! Enjoyed watching it.
Cheers man!
The ct15b on the 4th gen 3sgte is actually rather small compared to the previous ct series turbos etc ct20b on the 3rd gen 3sgte in a Celica GT4.
To get a proper feel for a Caldina you will have to drive manual GT-T. I have one, just hellishly more modifications than just a CAI.
I'd be keen to one day check out a GT-T
@@KiwiCarLife hopefully be at Clubfest next year when I've finished with the work on my wagon. Come check it out and maybe some others that will be their.
I’m surprised at how well the Accord did against the Caldina on the Motor Way especially with that big of a power difference
Oh yeah mate n/a always surprises turbo coz it makes power right to redline if tuned well
The manual advantage.
Everyone knows a teenager in his mums Civic will always beat a lawyer in his leased Lamborghini.
I've got a 2002 GT4 with 190k and i'm now looking for a new car. It has never broke down. all i do is oil change. I'm learning from the posted vids i should just repaint and rebuild my current car because i can't do better.
Not quite sure what you mean but hey, if you like ur car, 190kz isn't that high, can always spend some money to tidy it up so it'll carry on running
this is my cituation) i need repaint too
but why u lokkin for a new car? gt4 is the best car for this price and HP
I have a pretty rare blue lowered NA Caldina similar to that one , I think it's very underrated if you're interested in doing a comparison video, it's only 155hp
Oh nice man!
@@KiwiCarLife would be definitely interesting I think if you did a video on it!
I got both in stock & Auto, same colour too lol. In terms of cornering, GT4 N can get around same corner dry or wet without losing even GT4 with a stock 215 vs 225 tyres and 100kg heavier. Both get understeers according to OME's setting, but you can malipulate the toe out and tyre pressure to balance the car to your driving style. I can induce understeers into a corner with CL9 easily but GT4 needs more work. Saying that I can control and hold drift with GT4 when practice on a wet skitpan. Acceleration GT4 should be a bit faster, all depends on the gearing, the 4 tall gearing in GT4 is a problem.
Yes
Nice presentation 👏,..all that you comment about your experience driving both that car is genuine it true 👍.
Thanks man
Great video. Would you be able to do a comparison between your accord and a Altezza?
Yep, just waiting for lockdown to finish
Here it is - th-cam.com/video/05iUIvluJ6c/w-d-xo.html
Loving your content man. I'm tossed up between this and an E46 325I, which ironically, you did a side by side with. Slowly starting to veer towards the CL9 though. Question. Do you know if the TXL rear lights from the same gen will fit the CL9?
Cheers man, just checking is it e46 or e90, and is it TXL (TLX I assume?) Or TSX, both situations refer to different cars and change my answer
@@KiwiCarLife E46 mate. 2004 with the 2.5 i6. Sorry man. TSX*
@@phatness5 cheers, to answer your second question yes the tsx lights are interchangeable. The first question is a tricky one and depends on whether you are getting an auto or a manual. If you get an auto, both will be pretty similar. Both have the same power both look great both have great sounding engines both have 5 speed transmissions with tiptronic. The accord will probably be more reliable though. If you get a manual it depends what you want to do with it. The BMW will naturally be more fun and do more skids but the engine has little tuning capabilities. The Accord by comparison might not be quite as fun as it's front wheel drive however you will be able to make it much faster, much easier.
If you were talking manual 325i vs manual accord it's up to you, if you're talking auto vs auto id get the accord
@@KiwiCarLife Awesome! I've found some mad lights on the interwebs for the TSX, and I figured they'd be the same housing, but just wanted to be certain. I'm assuming headlights are the same, minus the difference between the dip on LHD lights being the opposite side, right?
Both examples are auto. The Honda also comes with a sunroof, so I was half leaning towards that. It has over 200,000 k's though, whereas the Beemer has 120 XXX.
@@phatness5 hmm OK that changes things more... the accord is reliable but 200,000km is quite a lot... it's up to you man. Drive both and see what you think.
If that toyota gets some lowering springs
It will look much better
Yeah agreed
You ever end up in Dunedin? Come get a manual gtt Caldina in ya. Also a Toyota mr-s here whatever you’re into
Yeah could be keen - my aunty and uncle live down there so if we ever go visit them I'll let you know
Hey man, with your flow designs kit is there anything at the back of the car? In between the two pipes. Or is it just the pieces on the sides that flick into the rear?
I own a tuned Mugen spec cl7 euro r so looking for a Mugen kit to finish the job or something more subtle
Nice man - a mugen cl7 would be cool - and nah it's just the spats by the exhausts on the side. There are other companies that offer diffusers for the middle though
@@KiwiCarLife yea I've looked up J's racing (2k for diffuser alone) and there's Mugen rear lip reps in America for $425 shipped but sorta dont want to go rep as the rest of the stuff is genuine (plus the four month wait for the part)
Thanks for clearing that up though!
i’ve been looking for a new car and those caldinas are high up on my list. what are you thought ? are they worth buying
Yeah they're pretty good if you can get one cheap
Caldina the best !)
Loving your accord videos! I am Looking to get a Euro R soon over here in Singapore, hopefully!
Nice man good luck
Can you dyno your car to see if it’s really 170kw’s?
At some point I will - that's 170 crank kw I'm talking though, will be less wkw
Shouldnt the Caldina be compared to an Auto CL9? comparing an auto wagon with a short ratio manual is hardly fair?
Yeah of course... I just don't have an auto cl9, and it makes tuned manual cl9 power so in terms of speed they're pretty even
Fair ?
Turbo vs NA is not fair haha
@@hondamanvtec2894 I pulled in the rolling race. Sounds pretty even?
@@KiwiCarLife Should compare 2 stock car. With the DC5 or Euro R gearing, makes CL9 speed up much faster 0-100 5.8s compare to low 7s in stock
@@clementlo3576 find me a stock accord euro and I'll do it again. You guys don't seem to understand I can't just pull any car you want out of thin air for a video...
Didn't even knew this car existed. Checked and it's because it was never sold here in Northern Europe.
And yeah, I think most people dont understand how important suspension geometry is. And all these modern sportscars with mcpherson struts can throw all the fancy damping electronics at it all they want, it will wash out eventually due to camber angles. These older honda's have grip for days due to the double-wishbone setup if you fit them with less washy coilovers and a set of decent tyres.
Yeah agreed... pretty sure the caldina has strut and multi link. Combine that with average tyres, lsd in the rear, and a front biased drivetrain, it's a recipe for understeer haha
@@KiwiCarLife Just checked, it does have strut front, multi rear. So do 99% of all "sports cars" these days. They just upsell you expensive driving aids, in favor of just simple mechanical grip. Including Honda with their FK8. They either incompetently, or maliciously, forgot how to make competent yet simple fun cars. Which is why their older cars are becoming ridiculously expensive used. S2000 is probably going to be over MSRP soon...
@@The_Noticer. yeah true, but that said, the fk8 as a stock car is one of the best handling fwd cars on the market even with strut suspension. So it can work, but double wishbone definitely takes better to mods
@@KiwiCarLife I know, I just can't decide what to do with mine. It's a CU1, which has great handling but i'm less impressed with the drivetrain. The 5speed automatic is spaced out too far and the torque of the 2liter while decent gets ruined by the gearing. I haven't decided whether to just sell it and look in Germany for a 2.4 with MT (CU2), or turbocharge my CU1. I just don't know what the automatic transmission can take in terms of torque and noone seems to know it either..
@@The_Noticer. get a manual cu2 haha. Spending all that money on a cu1 isn't worth it imo
Can you review a Mitsubishi FTO theres, FTO group is getting bigger here in Auckland.
You will gain a lot more followers if you do bro, good job with this video though.
Could do
Did you know that the Caldina was tuned and tested around the Nurburgring, just a little fact
It was indeed!
А что там находится и что там делают?
what tyres did the caldina have on it ? lol looks like it could benefit from a new set
They were near new - not a very good brand though haha
Yap definitely cheap ones on it as bought it wheels and tyres combo.
Better tyres will my next expenditure to do towards the caldina.
I just bought new high performance sport tires for my gt4 a while ago, massive difference this thing eats hills and corners all day, the gt4 tested in video definitely could benefit from a set🤣👌
I didn’t kno these had came with a 3s-gte in em…
I’m from Ja 🇯🇲 an all we have in those platforms are the 1-2 az-fe
Japan only model
Caldina GT4 3SGTE 2.0L AWD 191KW.
Standard Honda Accord K24A makes 147KW with 6 Speed Manual lol.
On a straight standstill race Caldina GT4 with AWD would launch right off the line mate it's a win 👍
Not in a roll race with 4AT tho!
@@KiwiCarLife in a role race I would brake boost built up boost then off I go mate don't forget Stock Honda Accord CL7 K24 are NA Non Turbo they got nothing on Turbo Caldina GT4 in the first place mate.
Both sucks on track race with corner turns hence why I prefer my RWD Lexus IS300 2JZGE & Toyota Altezza RS200 3SGE BEAMS so i can swing outside 😁.
Good Track car would be the FK Type R but they get gapped by the Dual Clutch Volkswagen R & Nissan Z in still & role race mate facts 💯
You can swap your caldina gearbox with second gen caldina gtt 6 manual transmission...my friends did it and touch 265 kmh without speed limiter...
Oh yeah I imagine that would be fantastic
Awesome Video! We should Collab sometime once lockdown is over!
Cheers man, could be keen, where you based and what car you got?
@@KiwiCarLife Auckland. I have a R33 GTST/ BMW 135I and R32 GTR. If your in the Area, ill arrange a car meet up or something it'll be a vibe :)
@@JohnyChhy Nice man - I'll be heading up to Auckland sometime before the end of the year to pick up some new wheels and get a road tune so could potentially tee up a time to film something while I'm up there. Hit me up on insta @kiwicarlife.yt if u want
I had a gt4-N and it was a really fun family car.
Spacious af. My only gripe was the 4-spd auto 😭
5 or 6 spd wouldve been awesome, but nooo lol
Yeah that's the thing aye. Some people have manual swapped them and they'd go like the clappers
Hi, Mate is the caldina expensive to run in comparison to the accord or preluded?
Probably fairly similar
You’re gonna need to try an st205 gt-four they are exciting I could potentially supply one for ya but it’s very far from stock 😂
Would defo be keen! St205 celicas are one of my fav toyotas
Me gusta mas el Caldina.
Yes
Is that the factory suspension on the caldina? It just looks like it's sitting really high, or maybe mines too low 😅
Yeah factory I think
Can you make a video how to service your Honda Accord
I can
The caldina is a good practical daily, this actually looks faster than I thought, can they handle 20psi with no tune etc?
Apparently so... This one ran mint
@@KiwiCarLife Do you still know the guy? It may have blown haha
@@sircefiro3sgte engine straight from the rally Celica GT4
Where did you get the shift knob for your accord euro
Bought it from a Honda dealer. It's a euro r knob
How much and where did you find the better gears for your accord
Bought em off a guy on facebook
Try the Toyota Altezza, many similarity with accord euro except is rear wheel
Yep just waiting for lockdown to finish then I'm gonna film with my mates one
@@KiwiCarLife every person in New Zealand has an altezza I swear, at least in my home town
@@seahawkslife5823 not in Auckland. Subies and hondas everywhere
How do u do that tiptronic so u just shift it up or down or is there smth else to it
Yeah basically
@@KiwiCarLife oh sweet
i miss my accord :(
Good strong car
@@KiwiCarLife yeah i sell it for a FK2R
@@-legend-storm-7277 that’s a good upgrade tho!
I have both the gtfour and gtt caldina I know that the Caldina GTT is more fun because it's manual
Yeah that's true
N spec has torsen lsd in rear
Indeed
I thought that road looked familiar. at 9 minutes it was confirmed haha. I used to live in the valley. Small world
Well there ya go!
Oh what a feeling... 😃
4 speed auto ☹
MMMMMMMMM glorious transmission
I have a gt4 caldina. It was good until the Trans started slipping and the engine gave up at 200k exactly.
Oh bother - surprising for a toyota to give up that soon though?
@@KiwiCarLife yeah well it tends to happen when you send it on 18psi for a year 🤣
@@timothyhackett7372 ahhhh yeah that'd probably do it haha
thats sad, im scared about this in the future))))
@@Funtagenka take care of your car and it won't happen hahaha
Kiwi car life ftw 🙌
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Haha cheers matey
@@KiwiCarLife when you gonna review something with a R18 please
@@victorwilks88 at some point
How much dose it cost to full up your Honda ?
About $130 - usually takes just over 60L most fills
@@KiwiCarLife what's your fuel consumption?
@@edwinbrycepillay7291 9l/100km
@@KiwiCarLife дорогое топливо , это где такая стоимость ?
@@ДмитрийХороший-ш4к New Zealand 🇳🇿
dyno time!
Soon!
05:53 :)
Lovely turbo sounds
It HURTS me that the Caldina only comes in automatic.
Nice older car ☑️
Big boot ☑️
Reliable ☑️
Fast☑️
Rare☑️
….Auto 🤮
Yeah if only they made a manual
The sad thing about that generation of caldina gt4 is that it never had a manual trans
Yeah aye - with a manual it'd be great!
Should have taken my car lost faster than that
Haha lol